Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[dunya]

Sloonei working overtime all day after being more or less outed by day 2 and now we get after all that work the two laziest wagons possible with him telling me that they are both mafia makes me just want to hurl him into the fucking sun

you'll have to hurl me first

[MacDougall]

Wolfy pop-in, Mac.

youre either mafia or absurdly bad at mafia take your pick

[bronana]

did all the wolves just enter the thread as we get cloesr to eod lol

[Lissa]

bronana
I don’t know how to word it properly but overall I feel like he has been really… Reasonable? Like well-grounded? I especially liked their post saying « Feels impossible to get a good grasp on the game when there are still like five one-posters after 65 hours of game .» I just don’t like the push on me at EoD because I just fail to see the logic, but at the same time if he knew Master Radishes and I are both town it would have been a really discutable push. Hmm so yeah, I dislike the push, but I acknowledge that it seems to be coming from a non-TMI place.

This was a weird read on me.

I had been pushing her and her top townread. She "failed to see the logic" in the former and obviously disagreed with the push on Marcher, so townreading me for being "reasonable" and "well-grounded" is just ... bizarre.

that read is weird, yeah

the quoted post is a pretty weak reason to put a lot of weight on for townreading someone and the summary doesn't match the description of the actual thoughts given

[Marcher Jovian]

Spoiler: show

Everyone should banish DrWilgy, as he has shown blatant disrespect toward the Scribes!

Poll ended at Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:30 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

bronana
0
No votes


Voters: None

Carotenoid
6
27%


Voters: bronana, outed wolf, moth, tedxtr, KZA, Lissa

DrWilgy
4
18%


Voters: Carotenoid, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, motobot, Long Con

dunya
0
No votes


Voters: None

KZA
0
No votes


Voters: None

Lissa
1
5%


Voters: MacDougall

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

MacDougall
0
No votes


Voters: None

Marcher Jovian
2
9%


Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime

Master Radishes
7
32%


Voters: nutella, Turnip Head, dunya, DrWilgy, Marcher Jovian, tutuu, Sloonei

moth
0
No votes


Voters: None

motobot
0
No votes


Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes


Voters: None

nutella
0
No votes


Voters: None

outed wolf
0
No votes


Voters: None

Sloonei
0
No votes


Voters: None

Soneji
0
No votes


Voters: None

tedxtr
0
No votes


Voters: None

TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes


Voters: None

Turnip Head
0
No votes


Voters: None

tutuu
0
No votes


Voters: None

Gol Golathanian (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
2
9%


Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis


Total votes: 22

votes d1

Spoiler: show

There must be one among you so soiled...who?

Poll ended at Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:05 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Carotenoid
1
5%


Voters: moth

DrWilgy
6
27%


Voters: tedxtr, Lissa, dunya, motobot, nutella, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

dunya
0
No votes


Voters: None

KZA
0
No votes


Voters: None

Lissa
0
No votes


Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

MacDougall
0
No votes


Voters: None

Marcher Jovian
2
9%


Voters: outed wolf, bronana

moth
1
5%


Voters: Turnip Head

motobot
0
No votes


Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes


Voters: None

nutella
0
No votes


Voters: None

outed wolf
0
No votes


Voters: None

Sloonei
0
No votes


Voters: None

Soneji
1
5%


Voters: DrWilgy

tedxtr
0
No votes


Voters: None

TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes


Voters: None

Turnip Head
7
32%


Voters: Marcher Jovian, TonyStarkPrime, KZA, Long Con, Sloonei, Carotenoid, MacDougall

Ha'ub the Swallow (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
4
18%


Voters: Master Radishes, juliets, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis


Total votes: 22

votes d2

[MacDougall]

ok so basically we have a mafia team in complete command is my guess

if you are town and happy with the state of this situation get better at mafia

[bronana]

Wolfy pop-in, Mac.

youre either mafia or absurdly bad at mafia take your pick

wolfy riposte, mac.

[MacDougall]

did all the wolves just enter the thread as we get cloesr to eod lol

yes i am mafia and entered the thread at eod to save my teammates

[MacDougall]

Wolfy pop-in, Mac.

youre either mafia or absurdly bad at mafia take your pick

wolfy riposte, mac.

[Marcher Jovian]

Carotenoid
6
27%


Voters: bronana, outed wolf, moth, tedxtr, KZA, Lissa

d1 Carote wagon feels like wolves jumping onto a v - Lissa, ow, moth, KZA sus from this

[bronana]

ok so basically we have a mafia team in complete command is my guess

if you are town and happy with the state of this situation get better at mafia

how is this a real thought? i truly dont get it

we are finally going to yeet the wolfy people who have been saved by scuzzy people d1 and d2. Your posts are baffling to me if you're a villager

[Marcher Jovian]

Master Radishes
7
32%


Voters: nutella, Turnip Head, dunya, DrWilgy, Marcher Jovian, tutuu, Sloonei

this was the yeet. nutella probs town, TH town, dunya meh leand town, Wilgy self pres, me, tuutuu town, Sloonei

weird thing here is that maf killed in the MR and Carote wagons -- mine and Wilgy's wagon's weren't hit (though ted was pushing both of us)

[bronana]

bronana
I don’t know how to word it properly but overall I feel like he has been really… Reasonable? Like well-grounded? I especially liked their post saying « Feels impossible to get a good grasp on the game when there are still like five one-posters after 65 hours of game .» I just don’t like the push on me at EoD because I just fail to see the logic, but at the same time if he knew Master Radishes and I are both town it would have been a really discutable push. Hmm so yeah, I dislike the push, but I acknowledge that it seems to be coming from a non-TMI place.

This was a weird read on me.

I had been pushing her and her top townread. She "failed to see the logic" in the former and obviously disagreed with the push on Marcher, so townreading me for being "reasonable" and "well-grounded" is just ... bizarre.

that read is weird, yeah

the quoted post is a pretty weak reason to put a lot of weight on for townreading someone and the summary doesn't match the description of the actual thoughts given

Still don't understand why they townread each other so strongly, either.

Also haven't checked but I feel like Carot spent d2 pushing villagers.

[Marcher Jovian]

Master Radishes
7
32%


Voters: nutella, Turnip Head, dunya, DrWilgy, Marcher Jovian, tutuu, Sloonei

this was the yeet. nutella probs town, TH town, dunya meh leand town, Wilgy self pres, me, tuutuu town, Sloonei

weird thing here is that maf killed in the MR and Carote wagons -- mine and Wilgy's wagon's weren't hit (though ted was pushing both of us)

This makes me feel better about looking at closer at the Carote wagon

[MacDougall]

ok so basically we have a mafia team in complete command is my guess

if you are town and happy with the state of this situation get better at mafia

how is this a real thought? i truly dont get it

we are finally going to yeet the wolfy people who have been saved by scuzzy people d1 and d2. Your posts are baffling to me if you're a villager

we have a 5 player mafia team completely in tact and probably overpowered and you think that this dadv double wagon of "wolfy people saved by scuzzy people" contains mafia?

its you who is baffling if villager fren

[bronana]

ok so basically we have a mafia team in complete command is my guess

if you are town and happy with the state of this situation get better at mafia

how is this a real thought? i truly dont get it

we are finally going to yeet the wolfy people who have been saved by scuzzy people d1 and d2. Your posts are baffling to me if you're a villager

we have a 5 player mafia team completely in tact and probably overpowered and you think that this dadv double wagon of "wolfy people saved by scuzzy people" contains mafia?

its you who is baffling if villager fren

who are the wolves mac?

[bronana]

cuz it feels like you're just fearmongering

[Sloonei]

The sky is not always falling

[nutella]

holy shit is mac really just in here openly trying to save both jovian and wilgy


is that whats happening

[nutella]

ok so basically we have a mafia team in complete command is my guess

if you are town and happy with the state of this situation get better at mafia

how is this a real thought? i truly dont get it

we are finally going to yeet the wolfy people who have been saved by scuzzy people d1 and d2. Your posts are baffling to me if you're a villager

this

[Marcher Jovian]

DrWilgy
6
27%


Voters: tedxtr, Lissa, dunya, motobot, nutella, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Turnip Head
7
32%


Voters: Marcher Jovian, TonyStarkPrime, KZA, Long Con, Sloonei, Carotenoid, MacDougall

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

neither party self-presing is hella weird. me and Sloonei were the only ones on the yeet wagon both times

The lack of overlap between the two leading wagons feels pretty weird for such a big game where both yeets were on villagers

[MacDougall]

holy shit is mac really just in here openly trying to save both jovian and wilgy


is that whats happening

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[MacDougall]

oof

[TonyStarkPrime]

wilgy v. good start

[nutella]

ok so basically we have a mafia team in complete command is my guess

if you are town and happy with the state of this situation get better at mafia

how is this a real thought? i truly dont get it

we are finally going to yeet the wolfy people who have been saved by scuzzy people d1 and d2. Your posts are baffling to me if you're a villager

we have a 5 player mafia team completely in tact and probably overpowered and you think that this dadv double wagon of "wolfy people saved by scuzzy people" contains mafia?

its you who is baffling if villager fren

man what the fuck

[TonyStarkPrime]

holy shit is mac really just in here openly trying to save both jovian and wilgy


is that whats happening

both of these people are town.

[TonyStarkPrime]

The sky is not always falling

it's falling here.

[bronana]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

???

[nutella]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

[Marcher Jovian]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

[nutella]

lol

[Lissa]

DrWilgy
6
27%


Voters: tedxtr, Lissa, dunya, motobot, nutella, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Turnip Head
7
32%


Voters: Marcher Jovian, TonyStarkPrime, KZA, Long Con, Sloonei, Carotenoid, MacDougall

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

neither party self-presing is hella weird. me and Sloonei were the only ones on the yeet wagon both times

The lack of overlap between the two leading wagons feels pretty weird for such a big game where both yeets were on villagers

lmao what

how the fuck does that follow

[DrWilgy]

Let's talk about Marcher's flip from Lissa to me:

@Marcher Jovian I appreciate your willingness to explain what your mindset was earlier. That's something that people have trouble doing sometimes. But I'd also like to see evidence that you are re-assessing the votes from yesterday in retrospect. Turnip Head was banished and flipped civilian. What does that mean for us on Day 3 and beyond? Specifically, what does it mean about DrWilgy?

DrWilgy is probably being defended by mafia. No one's really defending him and no one outwardly cares whether he lives or dies. It's all been circumstancial. If we just wanted to turn around and go "Let's yeet Wilgy today" and enough people agree it's gonna happen. The one qualm I have is looking at the wagons, it's Wilgy vs. Radishes (vs. Carote) d1, and it's Wilgy vs. Turnip d2. If you're mafia and you get to pick the winner, it still doesn't rule out Wilgy LHF because mafia wants Radishes dead before he can ramp up and if they're behind yeet Turnip they probably believed the claim.

Maybe I'm just overthinking things and should just sheep Ted's thoughts and vote Wilgy.

RED Flag. Is Jovian looking for reasons to sus me?

@Marcher Jovian I appreciate your willingness to explain what your mindset was earlier. That's something that people have trouble doing sometimes. But I'd also like to see evidence that you are re-assessing the votes from yesterday in retrospect. Turnip Head was banished and flipped civilian. What does that mean for us on Day 3 and beyond? Specifically, what does it mean about DrWilgy?

DrWilgy is probably being defended by mafia. No one's really defending him and no one outwardly cares whether he lives or dies. It's all been circumstancial. If we just wanted to turn around and go "Let's yeet Wilgy today" and enough people agree it's gonna happen. The one qualm I have is looking at the wagons, it's Wilgy vs. Radishes (vs. Carote) d1, and it's Wilgy vs. Turnip d2. If you're mafia and you get to pick the winner, it still doesn't rule out Wilgy LHF because mafia wants Radishes dead before he can ramp up and if they're behind yeet Turnip they probably believed the claim.

Maybe I'm just overthinking things and should just sheep Ted's thoughts and vote Wilgy.

What are your thoughts regarding the shift from wagons forming on you to wagons on me? Why is this happening if you are civ? Twice now you are the third where I get put ahead of you and behind someone else.

Because I've had a mix of people either defending me or at least calling me null but with potential, while you've done basically nothing of consequence all game. When push comes to shove, the second wagon will go further than the first.

Then can't find a reason and throws out the same dumb thing I've been fighting all game. I have plenty of posts and have made plenty of pushes. This suspicion is empty.

Why are people voting Lissa?

Marcher Jovian and DrWilgy both said they could vote the other, but neither of them did... Hmmmn.

Because if I move my vote the Lissa wagon goes away

Then argues against voting me because voting Lissa is more important.

@Marcher Jovian I appreciate your willingness to explain what your mindset was earlier. That's something that people have trouble doing sometimes. But I'd also like to see evidence that you are re-assessing the votes from yesterday in retrospect. Turnip Head was banished and flipped civilian. What does that mean for us on Day 3 and beyond? Specifically, what does it mean about DrWilgy?

DrWilgy is probably being defended by mafia. No one's really defending him and no one outwardly cares whether he lives or dies. It's all been circumstancial. If we just wanted to turn around and go "Let's yeet Wilgy today" and enough people agree it's gonna happen. The one qualm I have is looking at the wagons, it's Wilgy vs. Radishes (vs. Carote) d1, and it's Wilgy vs. Turnip d2. If you're mafia and you get to pick the winner, it still doesn't rule out Wilgy LHF because mafia wants Radishes dead before he can ramp up and if they're behind yeet Turnip they probably believed the claim.

Maybe I'm just overthinking things and should just sheep Ted's thoughts and vote Wilgy.

What are your thoughts regarding the shift from wagons forming on you to wagons on me? Why is this happening if you are civ? Twice now you are the third where I get put ahead of you and behind someone else.

Because I've had a mix of people either defending me or at least calling me null but with potential, while you've done basically nothing of consequence all game. When push comes to shove, the second wagon will go further than the first.

The hell does this mean?

It means I do not remember anything you've done

Because they aren't hunting.

Like you've said words and stuff, but you haven't done like any pushes or interrogations or stepped into tunnels or anything

You haven't tried to get someone to consensus town, you haven't tried to stop a yeet

Bullshit. They aren't hunting.

Like you've done jack to advance gamestate

Yes, because this is my sole responsibility.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Fine I'll stop talking and let you go do things

And the vote.

Lynch them.

[Marcher Jovian]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[Lissa]

what is even happening right now

[dunya]

Mac is an enigma these days

[bronana]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

[Marcher Jovian]

wigly many words. pls summerize case so I know what to argue against

[Lissa]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

I-

what

[Marcher Jovian]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

I-

what

wolves don't want to get caught on villager yeets. Lissa's the single most accurate in staying off of them

[Marcher Jovian]

wolves control the threads and ran up villager every day

[bronana]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

I-

what

also how is voting the counterwagon who marcher strongly townreads "wolfy tmi"?

that only makes sense if they're accusing you of bussing or am i wrong

[Marcher Jovian]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

I-

what

also how is voting the counterwagon who marcher strongly townreads "wolfy tmi"?

that only makes sense if they're accusing you of bussing or am i wrong

it means wolves decided who'd be doing the dirty work of yeeting villagers

[DrWilgy]

I found Jovian's team:

“Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.

do you think it is w/w, w/v, or v/v?

I could go w/w or w/v. The game state suggests that it’s not v/v.

Marcher Jovian completely disappearing kinda makes me think wagons are w/w

As much as I hate pre-flip associations, I am feeling a marcher/wilgy connection, actually.

Quite literally setting me up for a mislynch after their teammate bus.

[MacDougall]

sorry im on a call

[outed wolf]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

tomcruisewhat.gif

[Marcher Jovian]

and who's keeping their hands clean early on on the offwagon

[DrWilgy]

wigly many words. pls summerize case so I know what to argue against

Your vote for me was fake and forced. You have no suspicion on me, but you didn't even try to claim self pres. You looked for a reason, found a shite one and used it.

[bronana]

Interesting how Marcher finds a way to never vote for those lower null reads.

Who else would be "lower null"? Who would be higher null?

higher null: people who are doing things—dunya, outed wold, Sloonei
lower null: people who are not doing things—wilgy, Long Con, Mac, motobot, soneji, TSP

[outed wolf]

d2 wagons: notably tedxtr and Lissa were on the counterwagon both times
(yet more evidence for Lissa wolf btw)

.....wat


confusednickyoung.gif

because wolves in control. Lissa's showing tmi by always staying on the counterwagon

I-

what

wolves don't want to get caught on villager yeets. Lissa's the single most accurate in staying off of them

wolves dont care ime