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#2051

Idk why we decided to play stupid

#2052

Oh hey [mention]M Plus 7[/mention]

#2053

Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.

#2054

Juliets vs Nutella was exactly the boring thunderdome I anticipated but hey, 40 minutes to go.

Linki: Sucks, man.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2055

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.

Ooof, that sucks.

#2056

Okay, so what the fuck is going on here, and what can I do right now to help?

#2057

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.

Talk to us about Juliets and Sloonei and Wilgy.

And Nutella since you said "fair enough" to my reasoning for scumreading her but also locked her as town.

#2058

Also uh....you're getting secret lynched.

#2059

Just realized I could have missed the lynch but didn't. Catching up on three pages. Sorry folks.

#2060

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.

Hey I just did that in Assassin’s Creed. Sorry Tony. It was LC’s fault.

#2061

Aaaaand now I can talk about why I was TRing him based on the other game, I was pretty sure he was town in his MU game and his tone was similar based on a skim, so the fact he was still making time for a good quantity of posts here made me think he was more likely town based off my impression that MP prefers/gets more fulfillment from playing town.

#2062

Okay so I should have held off on forcing a specific secret vote for another 20 minutes or so. If MP is town, I'm really really sorry.

#2063

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:14 pm Also uh....you're getting secret lynched.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck.

#2064

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:17 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:14 pm Also uh....you're getting secret lynched.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck.

Accurate

#2065

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:14 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.
Talk to us about Juliets and Sloonei and Wilgy.

And Nutella since you said "fair enough" to my reasoning for scumreading her but also locked her as town.

My reads are pretty... cloudy here, but I don't really town read any of those players. Are Sloonei and Wilgy still dead spots?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2066

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:16 pm Okay so I should have held off on forcing a specific secret vote for another 20 minutes or so. If MP is town, I'm really really sorry.

Yeah I'm feeling bad about this now.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2067

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:14 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.
Talk to us about Juliets and Sloonei and Wilgy.

And Nutella since you said "fair enough" to my reasoning for scumreading her but also locked her as town.
My reads are pretty... cloudy here, but I don't really town read any of those players. Are Sloonei and Wilgy still dead spots?

Wilgy came in with a big partial/outdated catch up post in which he scumread MR without having seen that he'd been vigged and flipped scum. Most of us figured that meant he was town, that it was pretty unlikely he was faking not knowing.

#2068

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:19 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:14 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.
Talk to us about Juliets and Sloonei and Wilgy.

And Nutella since you said "fair enough" to my reasoning for scumreading her but also locked her as town.
My reads are pretty... cloudy here, but I don't really town read any of those players. Are Sloonei and Wilgy still dead spots?
Wilgy came in with a big partial/outdated catch up post in which he scumread MR without having seen that he'd been vigged and flipped scum. Most of us figured that meant he was town, that it was pretty unlikely he was faking not knowing.

Except for me.

#2069

In GOC this year I had a fit because G-Man didn't defend at all from a lynch and even voted for himself. I didn't think it was a fair thing to do to his teammates of which I was one.

In the situation I found myself in now I think there's a good chance nutella is civ and if she is, she is honestly a better player and would serve the civ team better than I could so I considered just voting for someone off wagon. However, though I think she might be civ I'm 100% sure I'm civ and my belief is I'm obligated to vote for her to try and save myself. There are others here who can make the final decision. I did the best I could.

a ton of linki.

#2070

Hm I wonder if there was someone who could’ve said that secret TKing an active player but especially secret TKing MP was a bad idea.

IF ONLY.

#2071

You don’t have to justify a self prez vote Jules, it’s ok

#2072

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:04 am This post is mainly for reference (mine if no one else’s):

With just a few minutes left, MP7 & Nute created a 4/4/4 split:

MR – DDL, speed, Hyena, Nook
Nook – LC, sig, 112, nutella
Sig – juliets, TSP, Jack, MP7

(To the best of my knowledge those votes are in chronological order too.)
Wait a sec. I forgot about Nook's wagon. Sig and 112 flipped town. If Nook is town, then at least one of Nute and LC are probably scum. Unless, somehow the wagon is pure?

Is that real logic?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2073

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:20 pm In GOC this year I had a fit because G-Man didn't defend at all from a lynch and even voted for himself. I didn't think it was a fair thing to do to his teammates of which I was one.

In the situation I found myself in now I think there's a good chance nutella is civ and if she is, she is honestly a better player and would serve the civ team better than I could so I considered just voting for someone off wagon. However, though I think she might be civ I'm 100% sure I'm civ and my belief is I'm obligated to vote for her to try and save myself. There are others here who can make the final decision. I did the best I could.

a ton of linki.

Ugh I'm so stressed now

inb4 me juliets and MP are all town and scum is laughing at all of us

#2074

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:14 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm Holy shit, I'm so sorry for not being here, I can actually talk about it now I assume... I literally just lost an F5 by voting another townie in a game where I had over 1,000 posts and tons of angst, so I feel really bad for not doing my best here -- I had no idea these games were going to cross and I had hoped (as it was futile) that I was going to get NKed earlier.
Talk to us about Juliets and Sloonei and Wilgy.

And Nutella since you said "fair enough" to my reasoning for scumreading her but also locked her as town.
My reads are pretty... cloudy here, but I don't really town read any of those players. Are Sloonei and Wilgy still dead spots?

The best thing Sloonei has going for him is the controversial idea that he wouldn't replace out if he was mafia right after his teammate got daykilled. Like roughly half the people weighing in have agreed and half have disagreed. Maybe more disagreement.

The worst thing he has going for him is he's unlikely to be replaced or really do anything so we can't really take him into lylo.

(I'm just going to assume MP is town for the next half hour because I can always ignore everything he says if he turns out to be scum.)

#2075

From a scum perspective you usually want to be in communication with your mates if you're going to bus them. Usually. Wilgy was, if scum, setting up a bus without talking to his teammates about who died. I actually feel pretty good not lynching there.

#2076

Okay, I really don't know how I can best be of use now, but hopefully you all can use my flip at least.

Can we at least not lynch nutella? Or can someone tell me why turning on one of my locktowns is a good idea?

#2077

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:23 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:20 pm In GOC this year I had a fit because G-Man didn't defend at all from a lynch and even voted for himself. I didn't think it was a fair thing to do to his teammates of which I was one.

In the situation I found myself in now I think there's a good chance nutella is civ and if she is, she is honestly a better player and would serve the civ team better than I could so I considered just voting for someone off wagon. However, though I think she might be civ I'm 100% sure I'm civ and my belief is I'm obligated to vote for her to try and save myself. There are others here who can make the final decision. I did the best I could.

a ton of linki.
Ugh I'm so stressed now

inb4 me juliets and MP are all town and scum is laughing at all of us

If all three of your are town, who is scum?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2078

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:23 pm From a scum perspective you usually want to be in communication with your mates if you're going to bus them. Usually. Wilgy was, if scum, setting up a bus without talking to his teammates about who died. I actually feel pretty good not lynching there.

No, I think the argument would be that he knew MR died and was faking not knowing and making up an organic looking scumread of him to look good. But that seems extremely far fetched imo.

#2079

Maybe Hyena is scum.

#2080

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:23 pm From a scum perspective you usually want to be in communication with your mates if you're going to bus them. Usually. Wilgy was, if scum, setting up a bus without talking to his teammates about who died. I actually feel pretty good not lynching there.
No, I think the argument would be that he knew MR died and was faking not knowing and making up an organic looking scumread of him to look good. But that seems extremely far fetched imo.

I wouldn't lock him town for it, but yeah, I agree.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2081

MP talk to me about speed. I know I asked about your vote switch to him earlier but I want an updated take. Do you think he should be a wagon here?

#2082

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm Maybe Hyena is scum.

Got to reconcile him campaigning for lynching his teammate D1, enough that he blackmailed nanook into voting for MR at one point.

Not to mention the other reasons I townread him, for the same reasons I townread 112.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2083

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:24 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:23 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:20 pm In GOC this year I had a fit because G-Man didn't defend at all from a lynch and even voted for himself. I didn't think it was a fair thing to do to his teammates of which I was one.

In the situation I found myself in now I think there's a good chance nutella is civ and if she is, she is honestly a better player and would serve the civ team better than I could so I considered just voting for someone off wagon. However, though I think she might be civ I'm 100% sure I'm civ and my belief is I'm obligated to vote for her to try and save myself. There are others here who can make the final decision. I did the best I could.

a ton of linki.
Ugh I'm so stressed now

inb4 me juliets and MP are all town and scum is laughing at all of us
If all three of your are town, who is scum?

Idk like speed and tony?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2084

Yeah no that still really doesn't feel right. Lol. I'm probably just right about juliets.

#2085

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm Maybe Hyena is scum.

Explain this one to me.

#2086

Hyena and Tony are the townreads I have that I'm most likely to reexamine if we get double town flips here since they're based on the weakest stuff compared to my other townreads.

I still think my case on Nutella is good, esp because DDL and Speedchuck have agreed on individual bits.

#2087

Hyena and Tony are the townreads I have that I'm most likely to reexamine if we get double town flips here since they're based on the weakest stuff compared to my other townreads.

I still think my case on Nutella is good, esp because DDL and Speedchuck have agreed on individual bits.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2088

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm Maybe Hyena is scum.

Shit maybe. I think I gave him far too much of a pass from the MR stuff, he was my top suspect before it.

#2089

ScumHyena making a bargain with me to make it substantially more likely for radishes to die D1 is uh...not how I recall scumHyena playing.

#2090

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm Maybe Hyena is scum.
Got to reconcile him campaigning for lynching his teammate D1, enough that he blackmailed nanook into voting for MR at one point.

Not to mention the other reasons I townread him, for the same reasons I townread 112.

I really gotta read D1.

#2091

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm MP talk to me about speed. I know I asked about your vote switch to him earlier but I want an updated take. Do you think he should be a wagon here?

I'm really not sure. I should ISO people but I'm low on time.

Ugh.

#2092

Like I would bet on hyena town almost as much as I would on jack tbh

#2093

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm Maybe Hyena is scum.
Explain this one to me.

You put out a boatload of posts, enough for any scum to pick and choose and develop a case against a Civ.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #2094

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:26 pm Maybe Hyena is scum.
Got to reconcile him campaigning for lynching his teammate D1, enough that he blackmailed nanook into voting for MR at one point.

Not to mention the other reasons I townread him, for the same reasons I townread 112.

I mean, MR didn't end up dying. Maybe it was calculated to the point where he realized Nanook would have to move to sig. But I guess that would require ascribing some of Hyena's agency to me and MP creating the tie. Hmm

I mean I guess he could be bad with MP there?

I feel like a fool if that's the case.

#2095

Maybe even more so if nutella flips green

#2096

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:29 pm Like I would bet on hyena town almost as much as I would on jack tbh

Jack isn't a bet.

#2097

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:23 pm From a scum perspective you usually want to be in communication with your mates if you're going to bus them. Usually. Wilgy was, if scum, setting up a bus without talking to his teammates about who died. I actually feel pretty good not lynching there.
No, I think the argument would be that he knew MR died and was faking not knowing and making up an organic looking scumread of him to look good. But that seems extremely far fetched imo.

See here's the thing. He came in, dumped that idea, then left.

It was like a wrestling promo. Simple enough and short enough it could be scripted.

Idk if it was scripted. I just can't even come close to ruling it out.

#2098

Is my secret vote moot at this point? IS it MP for sure?

#2099

Nanook, I trust you. What can I help you with specifically, anything?

#2100

Like that’s just so antithetical to Hyena’s previous scum style, the vast majority of players don’t change their game that drastically over the course of a year.

I’m not like completely locking him but I’m never considering him as scum barring a red check until f3

What's the craic?