Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 3]

[Dyslexicon]

Spicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.

Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

Go on.

[nutella]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

hmmmm I dislike this post


why isn't MP allowed to agree with Dizzy? also, I made a post nearly identical to this, quoting dizzy and agreeing, and you didn't acknowledge it

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

I disagree, I understand Dizzy's logic here. You, as scum, are looking at things with the knowledge that you're scum, so saying "you don't have any reason to scum read me" belies indignation at getting caught for bullshit non-reasons.

[Dyslexicon]

Come at me, Michelle. I can read you.

You weren't so interested to read me before

What does this mean? I'm always interested to read you because you're one of the people here I read the best imo. Remember I read you early in the champs game too. Here I don't see you as town, so I'm going to call it out. If you're town, don't worry, we'll figure it out. But I don't see it.

[nutella]

Spicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.

Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.

Yeah I am back to thinking this again after her recent post I just quoted. I'm not feeling it. "It" being town-Michelle which I can usually find.

[Long Con]

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] What is "Michelle vibes kawaiii"? I keep skimming over that part because I don't get it.

[Dyslexicon]

Go on.

I will later. I'm getting confident cause I had really good reads in the champs game. You would be proud.

[nutella]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?

[S~V~S]

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

It wasn't so much the word seem, as the "No U" of it. I made a one sentence remark, and she tried to turn it back around on me. Taking that one word felt like a suspicion looking for a reason, if I am expressing that correctly.

Initially it felt like she was buddying me, and that is something I know you are sensitive to yourself. Then the No U. So this is what most sticks out to me.

It's early, and my suspicions will likely change. But that is where I am for now.

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon What is "Michelle vibes kawaiii"? I keep skimming over that part because I don't get it.

The same vibe that SVS called "trying too hard" probably. Too positive. Yes, it's a sin. =p

[Long Con]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

[Dyslexicon]

This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?

If you want to talk about Nanook, then talk about Nanook ig

[Tangrowth]

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

I need posts from everyone and now i remember Svs said she will come back after a time face but she didn't...

Anyway the day is long and I expect activity later because of time zones.

My family thing went longer than I expected, my stepmother and sister never shut up. My stepmom thinks they're gonna lock down NY kinda like Escape from NY but sick people not prisoners, it might have been funny if she were not so hysterical. Then my dog got needy and I just wound up doing other things.

If you read the last post I made, you will see why I felt you were a bit over the top. I felt like you were fluffing me, and trying too hard to appear helpful and town, and then you trying to take one work out of a sentence and make it into a suspicion also felt like trying too hard. I am a tone reader and play by how people made me feel, and you made me feel like you wer building up your post count without actually saying anything. But I don't really know your game. I just checked and see you were a civvie in Champs, I will try to make time to reread you there. You will note I have not voted for you yet. I made a one sentence observation and it turned into this,lol.

Other than me and my usage of the word "seem", has anything else in the thread gotten your eye?

LC, how compatible do you think this perspective is with SVS’s town game?

[Long Con]

@Dyslexicon What is "Michelle vibes kawaiii"? I keep skimming over that part because I don't get it.

The same vibe that SVS called "trying too hard" probably. Too positive. Yes, it's a sin. =p

Referring to her desire to understand the DH position?

[Dyslexicon]

It might be Michelle/LC as well. I'm not sure.

[S~V~S]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

I didn't think you were, but

Have fun happy Mafiateers bbl

[Long Con]

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

I need posts from everyone and now i remember Svs said she will come back after a time face but she didn't...

Anyway the day is long and I expect activity later because of time zones.

My family thing went longer than I expected, my stepmother and sister never shut up. My stepmom thinks they're gonna lock down NY kinda like Escape from NY but sick people not prisoners, it might have been funny if she were not so hysterical. Then my dog got needy and I just wound up doing other things.

If you read the last post I made, you will see why I felt you were a bit over the top. I felt like you were fluffing me, and trying too hard to appear helpful and town, and then you trying to take one work out of a sentence and make it into a suspicion also felt like trying too hard. I am a tone reader and play by how people made me feel, and you made me feel like you wer building up your post count without actually saying anything. But I don't really know your game. I just checked and see you were a civvie in Champs, I will try to make time to reread you there. You will note I have not voted for you yet. I made a one sentence observation and it turned into this,lol.

Other than me and my usage of the word "seem", has anything else in the thread gotten your eye?

LC, how compatible do you think this perspective is with SVS’s town game?

Hasn't pinged me at all.

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

OMGUS much?

Tell me more about how Dizzy’s perspective is not townie.

[Dyslexicon]

Referring to her desire to understand the DH position?

I don't remember what it was about, I just remember the vibe.

Anyway, I'm out for now.

[nutella]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.

[S~V~S]

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

I need posts from everyone and now i remember Svs said she will come back after a time face but she didn't...

Anyway the day is long and I expect activity later because of time zones.

My family thing went longer than I expected, my stepmother and sister never shut up. My stepmom thinks they're gonna lock down NY kinda like Escape from NY but sick people not prisoners, it might have been funny if she were not so hysterical. Then my dog got needy and I just wound up doing other things.

If you read the last post I made, you will see why I felt you were a bit over the top. I felt like you were fluffing me, and trying too hard to appear helpful and town, and then you trying to take one work out of a sentence and make it into a suspicion also felt like trying too hard. I am a tone reader and play by how people made me feel, and you made me feel like you wer building up your post count without actually saying anything. But I don't really know your game. I just checked and see you were a civvie in Champs, I will try to make time to reread you there. You will note I have not voted for you yet. I made a one sentence observation and it turned into this,lol.

Other than me and my usage of the word "seem", has anything else in the thread gotten your eye?

LC, how compatible do you think this perspective is with SVS’s town game?

I know you didn't ask me, but I think it's imensely compatible

[Dyslexicon]

Also, just want to say that I can see how my wording was confusing to Michelle regarding me explaining the role cop role. But that should really not ducking matter. Like what.

[Tangrowth]

GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

Have you ever played with him?

I don't believe I have. If anyone has been around *enough* to have thread presence and yet made no impact on the game, it is Nanook, which is why I'm mildly suspicious. Also, no one has talked about him.

How does he normally play?

[Dyslexicon]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.

Maybe it's a scummate that is actually sure she is scum, but doesn't really want to go there so he's tip toeing a bit? Just a wild guess.

[nutella]

GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

Have you ever played with him?

I don't believe I have. If anyone has been around *enough* to have thread presence and yet made no impact on the game, it is Nanook, which is why I'm mildly suspicious. Also, no one has talked about him.

How does he normally play?

He doesn't like to have much impact on D1, he prefers to wait until associative reads can be made. So I'd say his behavior so far is normal.

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

Spicy.


I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.

If you don't mind, briefly explain to me the universes in which Michelle is scum and town, why her behavior fits that alignment, and which one you currently find more believable. Hopefully this will help.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

I disagree, I understand Dizzy's logic here. You, as scum, are looking at things with the knowledge that you're scum, so saying "you don't have any reason to scum read me" belies indignation at getting caught for bullshit non-reasons.

no, because he starts from the idea I am scum so he is 'sure' about the read. This is scum tactic, not my observation who just wanted to check Svs's idea there. And look how he pretends he can read me well. I sense it as a fake read made by scum.

[Tangrowth]

Spicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.

Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.

How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?

[Tangrowth]

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

hmmmm I dislike this post


why isn't MP allowed to agree with Dizzy? also, I made a post nearly identical to this, quoting dizzy and agreeing, and you didn't acknowledge it

That is notable.

[Long Con]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.

It was about understanding Dizzy's perspective on why "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" could look bad. Michelle accused Dizzy of illogic, and I don't agree. My opinion on it is that it's slightly scummy-looking when framed like that, but I'm not hopping on the train over it.

[nutella]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

Spicy.


I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.

If you don't mind, briefly explain to me the universes in which Michelle is scum and town, why her behavior fits that alignment, and which one you currently find more believable. Hopefully this will help.

I'm not writing an essay Generally I can find Michelle's town meta pretty easily, and I haven't felt it yet, and a number of her posts have actively pinged me, so I currently find it more believeable that she's scum. That could change.

[Tangrowth]

Come at me, Michelle. I can read you.

You weren't so interested to read me before

What does this mean? I'm always interested to read you because you're one of the people here I read the best imo. Remember I read you early in the champs game too. Here I don't see you as town, so I'm going to call it out. If you're town, don't worry, we'll figure it out. But I don't see it.

This kind of post is why Dizzy can be town for now.

[Tangrowth]

Go on.

I will later. I'm getting confident cause I had really good reads in the champs game. You would be proud.

I hate that IRL kept me from being in touch with things for so long, but I'm glad to hear about it now.

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?

Have you mentioned anything about Nanook? This is hypocritical.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

OMGUS much?

Tell me more about how Dizzy’s perspective is not townie.

More than I said already? Why? I think I covered all the points and I don't want to turn this into a tunnel.

Talk to me about why do you think I am scum .

[Epignosis]

I want people to understand that Epignosis is batting a thousand right now in 2020. If you are a civilian and you vote for me, you better win this game. Or else.

Mac's position is that I am refusing to interact with Dyslexicon because he is my teammate and for some unfathomable reason I "can't help" myself when it comes to this.

But my God, Epi, you failed to interact with Sloonei in the Game of Champions! Don't you see?

I had three mafia teammates. I interacted plenty with two of them. You can research those stats for yourself.

If you genuinely believe I am incapable of interacting with my mafia teammates, then

I don't care about this point anymore. Why did you vote for Michelle? Why did you vote for me? Your material here in this game is garbage. Fix that.

Calling your material garbage would be an insult to the very concept of refuse itself.

[nutella]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.

It was about understanding Dizzy's perspective on why "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" could look bad. Michelle accused Dizzy of illogic, and I don't agree. My opinion on it is that it's slightly scummy-looking when framed like that, but I'm not hopping on the train over it.

Ok

So now that you have begun to understand various reasons people suspect Michelle, how do you feel about her?

[Tangrowth]

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

It wasn't so much the word seem, as the "No U" of it. I made a one sentence remark, and she tried to turn it back around on me. Taking that one word felt like a suspicion looking for a reason, if I am expressing that correctly.

Initially it felt like she was buddying me, and that is something I know you are sensitive to yourself. Then the No U. So this is what most sticks out to me.

It's early, and my suspicions will likely change. But that is where I am for now.

She pretty much just did the same thing to me as well.

[Tangrowth]

It might be Michelle/LC as well. I'm not sure.

That's funny, because that thought just occurred to me as well.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Lay off my scum buddy >: (

[VOTE: Epic nosebleed] aubergine

Did Epi get baited?

What do you mean by this?

I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.

Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.

[Tangrowth]

Spoiler: show

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

I need posts from everyone and now i remember Svs said she will come back after a time face but she didn't...

Anyway the day is long and I expect activity later because of time zones.

My family thing went longer than I expected, my stepmother and sister never shut up. My stepmom thinks they're gonna lock down NY kinda like Escape from NY but sick people not prisoners, it might have been funny if she were not so hysterical. Then my dog got needy and I just wound up doing other things.

If you read the last post I made, you will see why I felt you were a bit over the top. I felt like you were fluffing me, and trying too hard to appear helpful and town, and then you trying to take one work out of a sentence and make it into a suspicion also felt like trying too hard. I am a tone reader and play by how people made me feel, and you made me feel like you wer building up your post count without actually saying anything. But I don't really know your game. I just checked and see you were a civvie in Champs, I will try to make time to reread you there. You will note I have not voted for you yet. I made a one sentence observation and it turned into this,lol.

Other than me and my usage of the word "seem", has anything else in the thread gotten your eye?

LC, how compatible do you think this perspective is with SVS’s town game?

Hasn't pinged me at all.

Cool, thanks. To me it read like classic town mindset of S~V~S, so if you thought otherwise I was definitely curious to hear.

[Long Con]

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

I disagree, I understand Dizzy's logic here. You, as scum, are looking at things with the knowledge that you're scum, so saying "you don't have any reason to scum read me" belies indignation at getting caught for bullshit non-reasons.

no, because he starts from the idea I am scum so he is 'sure' about the read. This is scum tactic, not my observation who just wanted to check Svs's idea there. And look how he pretends he can read me well. I sense it as a fake read made by scum.

Actually, you're right. Dizzy really took it out of context. "... looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me." That's talking about S~V~S' perspective, it's not telling her that she doesn't have a reason to scum read you, it's the reason why her shade is weak.

[Tangrowth]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.

Maybe it's a scummate that is actually sure she is scum, but doesn't really want to go there so he's tip toeing a bit? Just a wild guess.

Now this is a good post.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Lay off my scum buddy >: (

[VOTE: Epic nosebleed] aubergine

Did Epi get baited?

What do you mean by this?

I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.

Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.

I didn't see a trap go off. I just saw early prod-voting.

[nutella]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Lay off my scum buddy >: (

[VOTE: Epic nosebleed] aubergine

Did Epi get baited?

What do you mean by this?

I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.

Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.

You have yet to state what your reasons were for voting Michelle. What am I to think?

[Tangrowth]

Spoiler: show

GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

Have you ever played with him?

I don't believe I have. If anyone has been around *enough* to have thread presence and yet made no impact on the game, it is Nanook, which is why I'm mildly suspicious. Also, no one has talked about him.

How does he normally play?

He doesn't like to have much impact on D1, he prefers to wait until associative reads can be made. So I'd say his behavior so far is normal.

This is good to know, thanks. I tend to find that sort of play suspicious, but from what you're saying it sounds like it's essentially just NAI.

How does town Nanook set himself apart from scum?

[Long Con]

LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

Am I on the Michelle train now?

You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.

Maybe it's a scummate that is actually sure she is scum, but doesn't really want to go there so he's tip toeing a bit? Just a wild guess.

Now this is a good post.

If Michelle and I were teammates... like, I'm not afraid to bus. I'm not Michelle's teammate.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?

Have you mentioned anything about Nanook? This is hypocritical.

I didn't mention you at all too, so what?
This is not hypocritical, it's just I don't see why he said we are scum together as answer for your vote on Nanook. Felt like a misdirection.