Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]

[Jackofhearts2005]

@nutella does jack backing off make him scummy or towny?

Man I don't even know anymore. I still want to think town but maybe not.

Unless you're like the vigilante, does it even matter?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think this is about where I'm at atm.


Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

(Someone make the lurkers play please)

[speedchuck]

I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

Yay! Someone else ascribes to the "fourth is scum" theory of vote trains!

[Jackofhearts2005]

i was gonna resize it but fuck it, it's hard

That's what she said.

[speedchuck]

Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

[nutella]

Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

What do you think about sloonei's point from a few posts ago?

[sprityo]

me Radishes Tony and Sig should all vote speedchuck to make a 3 way tie

[nutella]

I'm not buying anyone saying they don't understand why people are voting radishes. If you disagree with the reasons that's one thing, but the reasons have been pretty clearly put out there and you can't just pretend nobody has given reasons.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I could maybe lynch Mac. Idk.

Linki: But what if we haven't read any of those reasons but Jay's? Checkmate, athiests.

[speedchuck]

Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

What do you think about sloonei's point from a few posts ago?

Ah, didn't see that post. I can see it.

I've also said the same thing myself several times as town [citation needed but I think I have]. I might could do it this game, but I wouldn't have time to follow up if someone DID tell me what to do!

Some part of me realizes that not much good comes from 'tell me what to do' though, so I do see it now.
Is that why everyone is voting there? For a point that was made only after everyone already voted there?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Btw Jack is always right about Nutella. It's canon. So either he's town and she's wolf or he's wolf and she's wolf, or he's wolf and she's town. But one of them is always a wolf so we should lynch Nutella.

Like this is a really townie post if Nutella is bad and a really scummy post if she's town because Mac's hiding behind me.

[speedchuck]

I could maybe lynch Mac. Idk.

Linki: But what if we haven't read any of those reasons but Jay's? Checkmate, athiests.

Or even Jay's, for that matter. [mention]nutella[/mention]

Some of us have only read 2% of the thread. Instead of looking for reasons, I read Mister Radishes' ISO.

[speedchuck]

Btw Jack is always right about Nutella. It's canon. So either he's town and she's wolf or he's wolf and she's wolf, or he's wolf and she's town. But one of them is always a wolf so we should lynch Nutella.

Like this is a really townie post if Nutella is bad and a really scummy post if she's town because Mac's hiding behind me.

This had better be a joke because it's a logic break otherwise.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Btw Jack is always right about Nutella. It's canon. So either he's town and she's wolf or he's wolf and she's wolf, or he's wolf and she's town. But one of them is always a wolf so we should lynch Nutella.

You his teammate? Lmao you know better than this.

I was just thinking you're probably bad anyway. Then this. C'mon man

You have literally been in scum teams with me where you have been immediately caught by Jack and lamented profoundly how well he reads you. So your defense here is hilariously bad.

Dude you are so full of shit. Your read is fake af, not mine. You're a wolf.

This is nutella's worst post.

Does nutella usually crumble to pressure like this as wolf? Anyone?

This is starting to get annoying real quick though, both Nanook and nutella coming out of left field is just pissing me because I can’t read AtE, and moreso this is just stupid AtE (no offence)

If we’re gonna lash out at every scum read on us we might as well not even play the game.

I might not understand what caused this reaction but I really can’t see why you’d be so pissed and it’s heavily affecting how I’m reading you and I hate AtE because of its impact on my accuracy

Fuck me idk i always wanna read AtE like this as town

[unvote] [/unvote]

AtE?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Btw Jack is always right about Nutella. It's canon. So either he's town and she's wolf or he's wolf and she's wolf, or he's wolf and she's town. But one of them is always a wolf so we should lynch Nutella.

Like this is a really townie post if Nutella is bad and a really scummy post if she's town because Mac's hiding behind me.

This had better be a joke because it's a logic break otherwise.

He seemed pretty fucking serious about the idea that I had caught Nutella, partially by jacking me off but mostly by the way Nutella responded to my push on her.

[nutella]

Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

What do you think about sloonei's point from a few posts ago?

Ah, didn't see that post. I can see it.

I've also said the same thing myself several times as town [citation needed but I think I have]. I might could do it this game, but I wouldn't have time to follow up if someone DID tell me what to do!

Some part of me realizes that not much good comes from 'tell me what to do' though, so I do see it now.
Is that why everyone is voting there? For a point that was made only after everyone already voted there?

It's more that sloonei's point encapsulates the general sentiment that radishes' contributions have been forced and disingenuous.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Um....I mean, by saying I'm good at mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nutella is bad and Dom is her teammate

I don't think so.

Like, Dom legit does point out probably Nutella's worst post.

Like this



is not a defense.

If you're wolfing with Nutella and the last time you wolfed with Nutella, Jack had her dead to rights but couldn't hang her before getting shot, why would you bus? Especially if you've bothered to tell Jack you don't trust him.

Like, I can see Nutella and Dom being scum. I don't think they're scum together.

[Sloonei]

Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

What do you think about sloonei's point from a few posts ago?

Ah, didn't see that post. I can see it.

I've also said the same thing myself several times as town [citation needed but I think I have]. I might could do it this game, but I wouldn't have time to follow up if someone DID tell me what to do!

Some part of me realizes that not much good comes from 'tell me what to do' though, so I do see it now.
Is that why everyone is voting there? For a point that was made only after everyone already voted there?

It’s one of the reasons my vote has been on him.

Another is that his reads have been weak and none of them are sticking anywhere. Caveat to that is that he doesn’t know any of us, but I feel like his efforts to develop reads (see above) have been flat too.

[Jackofhearts2005]

MacDougall, if jack came in here right now and said loljknvm nutella is town, would you keep your vote on me? Why or why not?

This shit is spicy af.

[Long Con]

Topic locked. Something has happened.

[juliets]

One part of my Radishes case has to do with this:

Yeah, okay, I don't have the time or will to slog through the thread again. Just...give me someone(s) to ISO or summat.

The "tell me what to do" approach is something that I associate with bad guys more than good guys. It's deferential and passive, and is a way for a (scum) player to look like they're scum hunting without having to worry about their targets or intentions being misinterpreted: somebody else told them what to do and they simply obliged.

the isos that followed were uninspiring.

Agreed. The iso-quest is probably his worst look in terms of seeming forced. @juliets what do you think

Well, ugh. "Tell me what to do" is indeed not a post I would expect someone who has a reputation as a great mafia player would do (that is his reputation outside of here). I agree that it's deferential and passive and something that is more likely for scum to say and as you point out seems forced. I skipped right over it when I ISO'd him, it just didn't catch my eye but I can't disagree with this reasoning. I also on first read through didn't see anything objectionable about his ISO's so I'll take another look there.

I think I also need to go back and look at the case JJJ presented about him. I don't even remember it.

I'm going to do these things before I go back to Nanook.

[Long Con]

"We are arriving," intoned the Monitor. "Harbinger awaits us in this universe."

He stepped through the portal, beside the one he had chosen to be Harbinger, the Monitor's most powerful acolyte. His brow furrowed as he saw another figure coming close, out of breath. "Pariah!" he said, his voice grim. "Your presence can mean only one thing!"

"Yes!" said Pariah bleakly. "You must flee! There's no time!" Pariah looked around, panicked, as the Anti-Monitor's shadow demons began to stream out from every dark place, attacking the Monitor's group.

"Fall back through the portal!! Quickly!" The team managed to keep their wits, and their newfound powers, about them. They were able to keep the demons at bay and step back through the portal, with Harbinger and Pariah.

Harbinger raced to the portal controls. "It's no use! The portal won't close!"

"I can override it, I just need three minutes!" The Monitor stepped to the glowing interface.

"We can't hold them back that long!" shouted Pariah, firing a blaster cannon directly into a group of shadow demons who were scrambling to get at the portal from the other side. "They're - they're gonna get through!!"

"Nah, brother," said Salvadore, his deep bassy voice grim with resolve as he strapped a few extra grenades on. "I'll give you the time you need."

Seamus' eyes glistened. "Me friend... I've not the words. Anything I can do for ye?"

"Actually, I need someone to come through with me. I can't do it alone." Salvadore looked to Seamus and held out his hand.

"Er, well then good luck with that and all..." mumbled Seamus as he put his head down and quickly shuffled away.

Salvadore smirked. "No problem. No volunteers? Well, this just turned into a conscription!" He grabbed nutella by the collar and slammed a pulse rifle into her chest. Her eyes widened in shock.

"After you!" Salvadore laughed and tossed her through before she could react. He stood for a second and watched her frantically blowing away shadow demons in every direction, then chuckled and turned back with a final salute.

"I am very good at killing!" he cried, as he jumped through the portal and went back-to-back with a screaming nutella, firing rifles with both hands.

The view through the portal was nothing but fire and blood until the Monitor finally got it closed. Not a single demon got through.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME was Salvadore (civilian), from Vault Hunt Mafia, hosted by speedchuck. Nanook has chosen to activate Salvadore's ability, killing himself and determining the Lynch target.

nutella has been lynched! She was Prometheus, an Independent role, from Arrowverse Mafia, hosted by DFaraday.

Nanook and nutella remain as Ghosts for the next three phases, and they may post as outlined in the Original Post.


A message from Salvadore:

[Long Con]

Night 1 has begun. It will probably last 27 or so hours. Get your PMs in!

[sprityo]

The absolute fucking mad lad

[sprityo]

I am
1. Beyond happy someone actually used the leeroy role
2. It didn’t kill town
3. Nanook wasn’t even in danger of being lynched and said fuck it

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]nutella[/mention]

Lol when you're town, I know it. When you're a wolf, I know it. When I can't tell because you seem like both, you're 3rd party.

[Sloonei]

Is this a fever dream?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kinda a shit result though, eliminating two non wolf players.

[Tranq]

Guess i don't have to catch up on 30 pages of posts right now.

juliets fell down the well!

[sprityo]

I don’t know what gossip girls are but Ive watched White Chicks a couple times

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don’t know what gossip girls are but Ive watched White Chicks a couple times

Gossip Girl is a show about pretending a main character didn't try to rape someone in the pilot.

[Jackofhearts2005]

It's very similar to White Chicks.

[juliets]

Guess i don't have to catch up on 30 pages of posts right now.

juliets fell down the well!

I don't know what you mean -

[S~V~S]

Guess i don't have to catch up on 30 pages of posts right now.

juliets fell down the well!

I don't know what you mean -

It has to do with the Lassie role, he's being nice to you

RIP Nanook and Nutella. No civvies went, but no baddies went either, but it helped sort my thoughts a bit.

[mention]nutella[/mention] [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] remember you have only limited posts. Looking forward to hearing from you.

That post was badass, LC!

[nutella]

Well shit guess I'm a ghost now wooOooOoooOoo

nutella

Lol when you're town, I know it. When you're a wolf, I know it. When I can't tell because you seem like both, you're 3rd party.

lol whatever man. I like to think I basically play like town when indie but ok

Anyway it's basically a rule of thumb now that whenever I get a really cool indie role that seems like it'll be a lot of fun, i die early and never get to use it.


Like I said I was playing from a similar mindset as town since I'm by myself, so my reads have all been legit. My suspects are mac, speed, gman, radishes, maybe dom. My strongest town reads are michelle, dizzy, svs, ted, maybe sig, lighter on jay, juliets. Lots of waffles/neutrals still.

I can post twice more through d2

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I was a Civ, kill SVS with fire, yes this is worth using one of my three posts on.

Also—get wrekt nutes

Also also I’m so freaking happy I didn’t hit town, y’all don’t even know

[juliets]

Guess i don't have to catch up on 30 pages of posts right now.

juliets fell down the well!

I don't know what you mean -

It has to do with the Lassie role, he's being nice to you

RIP Nanook and Nutella. No civvies went, but no baddies went either, but it helped sort my thoughts a bit.

nutella NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME remember you have only limited posts. Looking forward to hearing from you.

That post was badass, LC!

Oh Wow things go over my head way too often!

And I obviously abandoned my ISO on Nanook. I'm stunned that you're gone [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] , not that I question your decision but I'm sorry you're not playing anymore (except for the ghost posts which will be cool). And [mention]nutella[/mention] I went to the school of Lorab re: 3Ps but I'm still sorry to see you gone.

linki

[sprityo]

I was a Civ, kill SVS with fire, yes this is worth using one of my three posts on.

Also—get wrekt nutes

Also also I’m so freaking happy I didn’t hit town, y’all don’t even know

Don’t forget to use dead red

[sprityo]

The one downside to leeroy is that it lessens the use of vote analysis but nevertheless we had the pre leeroy votes saved right?

[sprityo]

maybe not

[Jackofhearts2005]

The amount of vanilla lovers is concerning. Scum hides there mark my words.

Glad to play with everyone btw <3

Sould reading in page 1Tedex villager. Liked Nut - not a surprise ^^
Still reading to catch up. Work may stop this process

I'm glad you're town, Michelle.

Is this legit?

It's correct. Source: am better at reading Michelle than jack is at reading me.

Is posting excerpts from the Aussie game scum chat bad faith here? Because you are absolutely lying and I am nearing 100% confirmation you are wolf because of it.

This is begging the question.

If Nutella is not a wolf, she thinks I'm not as good at reading her and is therefore not lying and therefore not a wolf.

If you say Nutella knows how good I am at reading her (because she's a wolf), then she must be lying, thus she must be a wolf.

You're starting with the assumption that Nutella is a wolf and using that as evidence she's a wolf.

Bad hunting. Possible scum.

[juliets]

I feel like I'm stumbling, trying to get back on my feet. Let's start with this: [mention]Master Radishes[/mention] check out the post of Sloonei's where he says your "gimme someone to ISO" is scum behavior. (If you can't find it let me know and I'll post it, its very recent though right before the boom.) Can you speak to your thinking when you said that? It does not seem like something a good Radish would say.

Also to everyone, I'm sorry my post posted after LC said no more posts. I didn't see the boom and it didn't come up in linki like posts usually do when I posted. So, my apologies.

[Turnip Head]

"We are arriving," intoned the Monitor. "Harbinger awaits us in this universe."

He stepped through the portal, beside the one he had chosen to be Harbinger, the Monitor's most powerful acolyte. His brow furrowed as he saw another figure coming close, out of breath. "Pariah!" he said, his voice grim. "Your presence can mean only one thing!"

"Yes!" said Pariah bleakly. "You must flee! There's no time!" Pariah looked around, panicked, as the Anti-Monitor's shadow demons began to stream out from every dark place, attacking the Monitor's group.

"Fall back through the portal!! Quickly!" The team managed to keep their wits, and their newfound powers, about them. They were able to keep the demons at bay and step back through the portal, with Harbinger and Pariah.

Harbinger raced to the portal controls. "It's no use! The portal won't close!"

"I can override it, I just need three minutes!" The Monitor stepped to the glowing interface.

"We can't hold them back that long!" shouted Pariah, firing a blaster cannon directly into a group of shadow demons who were scrambling to get at the portal from the other side. "They're - they're gonna get through!!"

"Nah, brother," said Salvadore, his deep bassy voice grim with resolve as he strapped a few extra grenades on. "I'll give you the time you need."

Seamus' eyes glistened. "Me friend... I've not the words. Anything I can do for ye?"

"Actually, I need someone to come through with me. I can't do it alone." Salvadore looked to Seamus and held out his hand.

"Er, well then good luck with that and all..." mumbled Seamus as he put his head down and quickly shuffled away.

Salvadore smirked. "No problem. No volunteers? Well, this just turned into a conscription!" He grabbed nutella by the collar and slammed a pulse rifle into her chest. Her eyes widened in shock.

"After you!" Salvadore laughed and tossed her through before she could react. He stood for a second and watched her frantically blowing away shadow demons in every direction, then chuckled and turned back with a final salute.

"I am very good at killing!" he cried, as he jumped through the portal and went back-to-back with a screaming nutella, firing rifles with both hands.

The view through the portal was nothing but fire and blood until the Monitor finally got it closed. Not a single demon got through.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME was Salvadore (civilian), from Vault Hunt Mafia, hosted by speedchuck. Nanook has chosen to activate Salvadore's ability, killing himself and determining the Lynch target.

nutella has been lynched! She was Prometheus, an Independent role, from Arrowverse Mafia, hosted by DFaraday.

Nanook and nutella remain as Ghosts for the next three phases, and they may post as outlined in the Original Post.


A message from Salvadore:

[sig]

Welp
Con: was wrong about nanook, entire game world shattered, and my sure fire way to read him may have possibly not been 100% right like at all.
Pro: pretty sure we're getting married now so that's cool
And an indy who could've been anti town is gone.

[speedchuck]

I am
1. Beyond happy someone actually used the leeroy role
2. It didn’t kill town
3. Nanook wasn’t even in danger of being lynched and said fuck it

Same~!

[Dyslexicon]

[sig]

I'd say the nutella voters are overall a wash/NAI.

There were probably at least 2 mafia members there and some on radish, but with her flipping indy I don't think we can gauge to much.

The person who looks the most meh from nutella is jack in my opinion but I do want to see nutella's thoughts here before I comment more on it.

[speedchuck]

Also that lynch post was perfect. Salutations to you nanook.

I think this lynch result is a good look for Jack.