Inception [END]

[Epignosis]

I don't understand how the "only thing of value I've contributed to the thread" I've had to repeat three separate times. Nobody talked about it. Clearly it had no value.

[MacDougall]

still no clue, still likely scum

You just haven't been taking seriously your duty to solve the game. You've been taking sly shots at me since jump street and there is no real impetus for it because it's all based on nothing.

I feel the same way about you right now. Funny stuff.

Such lazy bs.

case in point

What case in point?

You are so absolutely full of shit it's unreal.

[Pawn Lelouch]

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

Disingenuous~

Got lynched on another level and then pulled to the top with the rest of us.

I don't remember this?

Jack claimed it happened. And was yesterday so they would have just been transported straight to here. We never would have seen it on the second level.

[Epignosis]

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

Disingenuous~

Got lynched on another level and then pulled to the top with the rest of us.

Use complete sentences. What is disingenuous?

[112]

112 - suspect.
Evenstar- suspect
Pawn - suspect

No way in hell I'm voting Hyena today.

what tf have I done to be suspect?

I was the best poster in the other dream level 3 days running.

What the fuck no you weren't. Not even close. Several times you didn't even post inside of a 12 hour window leading into end of day! Everyone was terrible on that level except Michelle who at least tried. Why are you lying?

Why are you so serious? Why are you looking for that gotcha? Why did you think there were no scum in the other dream?

So I am being serious now? I thought your scum read was predicated on me not being serious?

What gotcha? I see you lying, I call you out.

I thought it was possibly all town because of the presence of no lynch as an option which I explained and you saw. Why ask a question you know the answer to?

You ignored my entire point and my question to ask me this asinine bullshit. You're caught, flailing, scum. Self vote.

ok well idk

[112]

You just haven't been taking seriously your duty to solve the game. You've been taking sly shots at me since jump street and there is no real impetus for it because it's all based on nothing.

I feel the same way about you right now. Funny stuff.

Such lazy bs.

case in point

What case in point?

You are so absolutely full of shit it's unreal.

no

I am going through a very difficult time and am trying my best

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

If 112 is town I will literally shit my pants. I will shit inside my pants as I wear them.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[Epignosis]

I will vote to ensure one of my suspects dies. No tie bullshit.

[MacDougall]

I feel the same way about you right now. Funny stuff.

Such lazy bs.

case in point

What case in point?

You are so absolutely full of shit it's unreal.

no

I am going through a very difficult time and am trying my best

I am sorry to hear that but with all due respect and as it pertains to the game you seem to do this kinda thing a lot and while I don't doubt you really are having a tough time it makes questioning you and casing you very difficult and feels like some unfair trap card you use to justify scummy behaviour.

E.g. I suspected you in wc1 and you did something similar and I pretty much felt unable to case you without feeling like I was personally attacking you or attacking your moral fibre.

I dunno what you wanna do with that info but there it is.

[MacDougall]

I am looking at that elephant vote on Nutella and it's giving me major neg vibes. How tf is that the best place for a vote right now?

[Pawn Lelouch]

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

Disingenuous~

Got lynched on another level and then pulled to the top with the rest of us.

Use complete sentences. What is disingenuous?

You're claiming that iaafr never was lynched. That is either outright disingenuous with him being lynched yesterday or you need to have a frank little chat with Jack.

[Evenstar]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

[Epignosis]

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

Disingenuous~

Got lynched on another level and then pulled to the top with the rest of us.

Use complete sentences. What is disingenuous?

You're claiming that iaafr never was lynched. That is either outright disingenuous with him being lynched yesterday or you need to have a frank little chat with Jack.

Lynched people are dead. iaafr was not lynched. He was kicked out of the dream. He's on the poll now, still alive...how say you he was lynched?

[MacDougall]

Evenstar ttm about 112 then

[Evenstar]

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

it is you who needs to wake up and read the thread

[Evenstar]

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

Disingenuous~

Got lynched on another level and then pulled to the top with the rest of us.

Use complete sentences. What is disingenuous?

You're claiming that iaafr never was lynched. That is either outright disingenuous with him being lynched yesterday or you need to have a frank little chat with Jack.

Lynched people are dead. iaafr was not lynched. He was kicked out of the dream. He's on the poll now, still alive...how say you he was lynched?

[Epignosis]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

[Pawn Lelouch]

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

Disingenuous~

Got lynched on another level and then pulled to the top with the rest of us.

Use complete sentences. What is disingenuous?

You're claiming that iaafr never was lynched. That is either outright disingenuous with him being lynched yesterday or you need to have a frank little chat with Jack.

Lynched people are dead. iaafr was not lynched. He was kicked out of the dream. He's on the poll now, still alive...how say you he was lynched?

You are either being the worst type of pedant or need to read the actual thread.

[Epignosis]

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

who lynched iaafr? told u he was town.

Was iaafr lynched?

Wake up. iaafr is on the fucking poll today. Hence not lynched.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

it is you who needs to wake up and read the thread

You forgot to vote in the poll, chuckles.

[Evenstar]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

[Epignosis]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

[MacDougall]

Hey seems like things are getting a bit testy. Let's all stop and remember we're here for one thing.

Spoiler: show

Jack's gifs

[MacDougall]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

You do have that arrogant hubris I've come to associate with civ Epi.

[Pawn Lelouch]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

It really isn't sexy.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Epignosis]

Observe this cute triumvirate:


Epignosis
3
23%


Voters: 112, Pawn Lelouch, Evenstar

[Epignosis]

All three I've accused.

[Evenstar]

And Evenstar, even if you are a civilian, you are derailing matters. I'm comfortable lynching you regardless.

How was it you put it?

Ah yes.

I need you...resolved.

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

... are all the guys here creepy like this?

[Evenstar]

All three I've accused.

Why yes, everyone on your wagon is scum. Never heard that one before.

[Epignosis]

tbqh i'm resigned to the stomp if this thread can't see scum as obvious as you, hyena and nutella

and yeah, I agree I do need resolved

dunno why you want me resolved before radishes and why you blew 'stop taking credit four times for the same post' into a serious lynch attempt, though

seriously, you will fucking know it if and when I decide you actually need to be lynched

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

... are all the guys here creepy like this?

Did you take that seriously?

[Pawn Lelouch]

All three I've accused.

You're being like the word I accused Dom of being that I won't say to avoid another mod warning. Couple that with having you in my bottom 3 for awhile? Hyena can wait, I want you dead now.

[Evenstar]

That was tongue in cheek.

Nobody needs to be "resolved." That's lazy-talk.

My frustration with you is that you exuded a civilian confidence and then you went and lost your mind about me over the most inane reasons. I can't support you for that any longer.

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.

You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.

I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?

Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.

... are all the guys here creepy like this?

Did you take that seriously?

[Epignosis]

Yeah, Evenstar isn't interested in finding mafia. She's interested in stirring up trouble.

Lynch her.

[Epignosis]

I'd lynch Pawn first though.

[MacDougall]

I really don't understand the suspicion towards Epi. This is just Epi.

[MacDougall]

I'd lynch Pawn first though.

Why is Pawn bad?

[Epignosis]

I'd lynch Pawn first though.

Why is Pawn bad?

Think about it folks.

I repost my Day 1 stuff in other thread begging people to copy and paste it in case they get topside, and especially as a hedge in case they vote for me.

If you are a civilian, do you want to see Dragomir interactions or don't you? Why get pissed that someone brings them up every new location?

I thought civilians would be glad to see my Day 1 perspective.

Evenstar thinks I should be lynched because of it.

no, I think you should be lynched because you're the only plausible third-level scum-partner for either Radishes or Sprityo

that case is just stranded in day 4 because ~mechanics~

Why were so quick to dismiss my Dragomir interactions?

because I've seen them three times already and you're always going on about how "PLEASE PRESERVE THEM IF I DON'T MAKE IT" like you're god's gift to mafia

yeah, it's good work. I get it's good work. I encourage the people who haven't seen them to read them. I don't love how they seem to be the only thing of value you've ever contributed to the thread.

Only thing of value I've contributed to the thread.

Comment on this then:

I am at work, and unable to post much. I have meeting coming up soon (that includes a 50-slide Power Point about how to have a meeting ), but...

but i mean yeah your logics a bit weird

wouldnt keeping him alive to keep sussing the towncore sow suspicion on its own?

why would scum assume people would even remember nooks reads

Yes, but Nook was relatively low impact in the thread so he probably wouldn't make much progress and might even be convinced to change his mind. Better to go for the guarantee rather than a gamble.

Because it's good town play to look back at those who died to try and divine the intent as to why they died. Since there is always a discernible reason behind a scum nightkill. The trick is actually figuring it out. Plus remembering the reads of one of 14 other players is far easier than that of 29 other players. Especially since scum could potentially just point it out themselves in thread as a reason why Nook could have been a silencing kill. So there's a fair chance that town would easily remember the reads or scum would just state it themselves.

I'm basically assuming that Epi is scum based off this as I read into the kill more and more. If I'm right this is a kill that came at it from a methodical view, which fits my mental image of Epi's style and even is something he has stated in previous days.

...this is rubbish. Absolute rubbish.

First, the qualifiers indicate someone who knows what he is saying is rubbish. "Basically assuming" is equivocal language. "As I read into the kill more and more" is a vague way to make it sound as though this perspective bears credibility. It doesn't. This is an attempt to appear analytical. The little lecture that precedes the accusation rings hollow.

Second, Pawn, who knows nothing about me and has no prior experience with me, suggests that he can correctly peg me specifically as killing Nanook. Nonsense. In fact, if you remember, Nanook was among my top suspects coming into Day 2. From my perspective, the incessant posts begging for credit for lynching Dragomir looked too on the nose. If I were mafia, I would have been confident I could have gathered support for a Nanook lynch. No- Nanook would not have been in my top ten choices for a kill.

Third, the accusation is empty. Any victim could be a "methodical" choice for the Night kill. What makes the Nanook kill specifically a methodical choice (as opposed to, say, an Evenstar kill or a Pawn kill)? The accusation is based on multiple assumptions that don't even support it.

Fourth, the basis for this accusation against me is at present non-falsifiable. "If I'm right this is a kill that came at it from a methodical view" is nothing that can be proved or disproved until endgame.

This is rubbish.

[MacDougall]

I see...

[Epignosis]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

[Evenstar]

Yeah, Evenstar isn't interested in finding mafia. She's interested in stirring up trouble.

Lynch her.

As you told me on D3, you are welcome to try.

Shower and bed at this point.

[mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention], I would encourage you to do sort-by-maximum-dream-depth on the first votal if you haven't already: I found it very interesting and I would appreciate you checking my work. (Also, I don't want to have to redo all the damn color tags.)

[Evenstar]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

[Evenstar]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

[mention]Lady LambdaDelta[/mention]
Is this or is this not directly out of your scumgame?

[Epignosis]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

And what will you do when you discover I am not? Hmm?

[Pawn Lelouch]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

And what will you do when you discover I am not? Hmm?

Shrug at the mistaken lynch and bask in the much less toxic air seems like a good start.

[Epignosis]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

And what will you do when you discover I am not? Hmm?

Shrug at the mistaken lynch and bask in the much less toxic air seems like a good start.

Toxic = "stuff I don't like."

Got it.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

[MacDougall]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

And what will you do when you discover I am not? Hmm?

Shrug at the mistaken lynch and bask in the much less toxic air seems like a good start.

I am missing something here for sure.

[nutella]

@Master Radishes
@sprityo
@Evenstar

Were ya’ll alone in limbo yesterday? And if so, what happened? And if not, same question.

Yeah. Open votes, no maj. We did our backs and forths, but Sprit only popped in last few minutes, voted me, I voted Eva because obviously, and Eva switched from voting Sprit to me at :00.

It was fun and dramatic.

People need to believe me on her now, though.

congratulations

you got me

the masterful voteswapping wolf

this :00 argument is terrible, I barely got my vote in at all which would've resulted in a complete fucking rand

are you really saying that I cut it that close,

risking a 1/3 chance of outright suiciding,

because, i dunno, I thought sprityo would pull some kind of bullshit ninja move?

my squeaking in just under the wire is entirely down to the fact that sprityo showed up late and decided to hold off from voting until literally 00:59 or something

Again, the problem with this defense is that there wasn't an actual lynch on the line and you knew that (right?)

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

Come at me.

wait,

you lynched spiny?

Yes. :P

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

I am informed there is a vig

....wat

Hyena is town in like 98% of universes here

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

I have no clue what you're talking about but I very very much want to murder Hyena and Nutella right now.

ok, if you were actually spiny's mason partner, then I guess you're not scum. but maybe you weren't. Either way, you're behaving really weird about this. Some of us didn't have the confidence in that slot that you apparently did. We lynched boo because we didn't have much of a better choice and he didn't look good on d2 (and because I had some reasons to suspect spiny from d1). It was not a good lynch and it wasn't a confident push by anyone in particular. I would prefer not to die for it lol.

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

what

*checks polls*

Wait, you went directly to f3. Right, that explains it a lot better. Apparently iaafr got lynched in level 3 somehow and brought to the top via that method rather than just the normal rejoin.

k good to know

@Pawn Lelouch what makes you think iaafr got lynched? I must have missed whatever you're seeing.

I thought I read that he had gotten lynched on one of the levels but I guess I'm being crazy then?

He did not show up here unless you guys lynched him last day phase, but you wouldn't know who was lynched last day phase.

Pawn, I hate to belabor a detail like this but if you weren't told in this thread that iaafr was lynched where did you find that out?

I thought someone had said it in here. Posting + reading while also listening to a friend's cabaret is a bad idea apparently for getting things done right. News at 11.

quick search says it was Jack, you aren't hallucinating

Great, thanks Eva.

wait and then how would jack have known?


at top of p121 currently just posting these now

[Epignosis]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

And what will you do when you discover I am not? Hmm?

Shrug at the mistaken lynch and bask in the much less toxic air seems like a good start.

I am missing something here for sure.

Here is what Pawn had to say about me lately:

pawn lelouch

is epignosis being fair to me right now?

He is heavily overemphasizing the lack of a vote on D1. Yeah, it wasn't ideal that you didn't put one on Drago to clinch it but unvoting 112 is still a push towards that, and notably one you had been hinting at for a damn good while. I even called you out on it when you said "completely unexpected betrayal" with everyone expected it, since you had been doing blatant hinting.

And even with that initial waver, everything else within the game has been pure town you. Since the beginning of D1.

And yeah, Epi hasn't seen a fair bit of your playstyle for some context, but it's not a overall scummy set of posts even without that. So I do think that the overemphasis that he's been placing is a fair bit too much.

And while I'm enjoying the game I do consider it bastard and somewhat disorienting. I agree with you on that and think Epi not considering it as such is a case of just trying to defend his friends over the truth. Since if this isn't considered bastard over here, I do hate to see what would be considered as such.

Pawn, you seem to have an affinity for iaafr. Can you elaborate?

An affinity in terms of having a read that I believe is correct or personality + style?

You seem to like what he's doing. Any outside commentary from someone I even remotely trust would be coveted.

For the most part since early D1 I've honestly found him to be largely acting in a town manner and I generally like the direction that he has pushed in terms of reads. And yes, he did the unvote rather than vote but that doesn't change that he's been fairly solid everywhere else this game.

Especially when you consider the fact that the fact that he removed the 112 vote still helped with Drago and is something that he had to have known would be scummy looking as either alignment due to timing. And full disclosure that is the type of play I have done before, and while it's risky it is something that can work in terms of trying to guarantee a life extension. So I can see the thought process and the weird half measure doesn't feel like scum in that instance, since he would have committed to a hard stance and not ended it on the no lynch.

And while I think iaafr is overreacting in terms of annoyance from your questions I can see how his frustration comes from the setup and is being exacerbated, where the way he is reacting isn't necessarily productive, but feels like town iaafr from what I've observed in other games and spec.

@Pawn Lelouch I'd like to hear your latest thoughts on Iaafr

Epi's put forwards the argument that rabbit potentially being the doublevoter actually makes them look worse, not better

Should I be scumreading Epi or Rabbit more for this? 'cause right now I'm reading that as reflecting quite badly on Epi

I do think my Rabbit read should be a little less secure given that he hasn't actually got a good reason to be not voting D1 even if he is the doublevoter, but IMO Epi's argument here boils down to "If they're mechanically confirmed town that just makes them look worse", which is absolutely garbage.

Well, iaafr's stated reasoning of survival still holds up and is arguably even more valuable considering the value of one late game. There is still the issue of not voting when he could have clinched it but with his hints of pulling off of 112, Drago was pretty much publicly in the lead so there was still some push for that. So I feel solid on iaafr.

And like, I can see the angle that Epi is pushing for here, it's just one that I disagree with when factoring in the survival stance. So it's a small ding.

iaafr, Pawn Lelouch
help me out here, what am I doing wrong
this PoE sucks but I can't seem to see the game a different way

Honestly I agree with the core of it. Since it seems too damn simple but I can't come up with anything else.

I'm never going after you or iaafr. So 6 slots and I am ultimately 3 tiering this since I don't think anyone else here is on the same level of cleared as you two.

Epi, Jack, Sprityo, Dom, Radishes, Colin.

So while Epi has some emotions in terms of annoyance it's not that much and frankly isn't a town tell. Most people would be annoyed in that scenario so it is hard NAI. Then the rabbit push is very eh. I'm honestly unsure if I want him in bottom or middle still, but I guess I'll drop him in for now.

I can agree that Jack has looked better in regards to trying to remove out the current POE and actually participating. Most of them are kinda fluffy but I like his approach to Radishes and there was decent insight when he commented on Michelle.

Dom just has baseless aggression and that's it.

Radishes is weird for me. He has similar thought processes but timings and amount of work make it possible that he's trying to pocket me. So there's sus there but I'm not hitting him today imo.

Colin has some flailing but again, there's nothing actually clearing here. It's enough that he isn't the option today but that's it.

Maybe it's just me but there wasn't anything supremely clearing about the emotional outburst. I get why you're reading him town off it, it could be enough to bump if there was more but he still doesn't have the best look in thread. At the very least since we need 3 I don't see enough to move him to the middle.

{Jack, Radishes, Colin}
{Epi, Dom, Sprityo}

@Pawn Lelouch you too, uptrends downtrends?

is it still epi dom sprityo for you?

Pretty much. Jack and Radishes are locked pretty heavily in the center for me. Same with Dom at the bottom. Basically nothing has given me reason to change their overall positions since all three have played into what I've already viewed of them.

Epi has actually trended downward because of post #909, where he says I'm bad for making posts that focus on maintaining the status quo. Which if you consider having 3 of 9 slots locked down, and 2 more (MR + Dom) where I've been basically in the same view of them for multiple phases? Then I'll cop to liking the status quo and thinking it's pro town here.

Since remember, the status quo is not inherently bad, what matters is if the status quo is one that benefits town or not. And I think this is a case of one and let me explain.

So Nook is a weird kill. He's a good player but there are others of his caliber here and he notably was one of the less engaged players. So why was he targeted? He's not the player I would have gone for in a doc dodge. I thought about it and the main thing I can consider as viable is that his main scum reads were Eva and myself. And that wouldn't be enough for me to really make sense of it except Eva and I were part of a burgeoning town core.

So Nook specifically seems like an attempt to sow suspicion and break it apart to keep town disorganized, which only increases my Eva lock town rating. And them wanting to break this up is important since it means scum does not like the status quo at the end of D2 where people were coming together and finding each other.

So I think we had a pretty solid POE outline going on and I just dislike how Epi has looked at the same set of events and gotten the exact opposite view from them.

And Sprit is a case where I like individual posts but when I look at the ISO as a whole it just feels bleh, especially with the amount of posts situated there. Still is primarily a case of I don't feel like dropping Colin to the bottom is right so Sprit is the one who has to fit in.

i actually never paid attention to nooks reads that much last phase lol

so i cant corroborate if what pawn is saying is accurate

and uh isnt that like level 2 logic

isnt level 1 logic pointing at nook was possibly nk'd cuz he was correctly sussing you?

I guess but I don't see the need for me to do so in that position. You and Eva are in a solid TR of me at the moment so I keep that around, especially when being the main doctor targets. Low posters are kept around for easy control around.

So I'd be looking at a kill screen of Nook, Epi, or MR. Just based on engagement I kill Epi or MR everytime over Nook. Nook scum reading me doesn't worry me. I'd rather kill someone who has a nebulous TR or null of me and some thread control vs a person who is SRing me without thread control.

but i mean yeah your logics a bit weird

wouldnt keeping him alive to keep sussing the towncore sow suspicion on its own?

why would scum assume people would even remember nooks reads

Yes, but Nook was relatively low impact in the thread so he probably wouldn't make much progress and might even be convinced to change his mind. Better to go for the guarantee rather than a gamble.

Because it's good town play to look back at those who died to try and divine the intent as to why they died. Since there is always a discernible reason behind a scum nightkill. The trick is actually figuring it out. Plus remembering the reads of one of 14 other players is far easier than that of 29 other players. Especially since scum could potentially just point it out themselves in thread as a reason why Nook could have been a silencing kill. So there's a fair chance that town would easily remember the reads or scum would just state it themselves.

I'm basically assuming that Epi is scum based off this as I read into the kill more and more. If I'm right this is a kill that came at it from a methodical view, which fits my mental image of Epi's style and even is something he has stated in previous days.

[Evenstar]

My three biggest suspects are voting me.

It's cute. They won't ever lynch me. Why try?

IDK, maybe because we think you're scum?

And what will you do when you discover I am not? Hmm?

Probably get lynched by Radishes and Jack 'cause I got the wrong partner. Don't think I did though.