Persona 5 Mafia [Game End]

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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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[mention]Rej[/mention] why have all your arguments been tinfoil and wifom?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Let's lynch Epi, if he flips town then we lynch Rej next DP does that sound like a good deal?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Sprityo please stop insulting me.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:13 pm Let's lynch Epi, if he flips town then we lynch Rej next DP does that sound like a good deal?
Suits me. I just sat down but have to get back up soon to cook. Sorry.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:12 pm @Rej why have all your arguments been tinfoil and wifom?
else I would be repeating others and this would be nothing new, so with that I try to add something new for the townfolk :workit:
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Back to Rej.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
How do you determine it? Time for your tinfoil dragoboi.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
How do you determine it? Time for your tinfoil dragoboi.
Simple. You're the scum on the wagon.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:15 pm
Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
How do you determine it? Time for your tinfoil dragoboi.
Simple. You're the scum on the wagon.
Yes? More please!
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:25 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:15 pm
Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
How do you determine it? Time for your tinfoil dragoboi.
Simple. You're the scum on the wagon.
Yes? More please!
That's it.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:36 pm Sprityo please stop insulting me.
Very well, only passive aggressive statement from now on :haha:
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
Based on what?

How many mafia do you think there are left btw?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
Based on what?

How many mafia do you think there are left btw?
I think Drago rly might be scum here lol. Maybe he might even be the indie. His behaviour is odd. He is idealess and he lacks some effort imho. What you think?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Now I'm actually mad. Have you guys even been paying attention to my posts? If you have, you would clearly see and REMEMBER how I've been pushing for Rej and the REASONING behind it. I've made multiple posts calling Rej out for scummy stuff which only Jay has evidently paid attention to. I made one big post giving all my reasoning against Rej.

Now Mr. Tinfoil and No Reason is really trying hit me up with a lack of effort argument smh.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Rej's flip flop of reads on me does not feel genuine. He tries coming after me with nothing and then looking at how it picking up any heat, he goes back to a town read like he's scared of fully pursuing the idea of me being scum. Now he's going BACK to the idea of me being scum once Mac is questioning me just on this page. He's going in circles. He wants to come after me but needs support from townies to do it.

Add this to the list of reasons of why Rej is bad.

And Mac, I believe there's only 1 mafioso left.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:51 pm Can't see the image.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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If there is only one Mafioso left then your "There's mafioso on this wagon" post doesn't really hold water imo.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:10 pm If there is only one Mafioso left then your "There's mafioso on this wagon" post doesn't really hold water imo.
Why not?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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I have a few minutes. I don't know if I can offer anything helpful, but I'm here for a little bit.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:13 pm Let's lynch Epi, if he flips town then we lynch Rej next DP does that sound like a good deal?
At this stage you were evidently happy to lynch Epi. That you also suspected Rej is known.
Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:25 pm [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
And as soon as Rej put his vote on Epi then you're off him and back to Rej? I do not understand why Rej voting Epi should alter your perspective there. You already suspected him. Either he is town and agreeing with your ultimatum (which is my opinion) or he's a Mafia going along with your plan anyway, so you should be happy? The sudden reaction doesn't make sense.

Your pretext for agreeing to the Epi wagon and your vote there was so flimsy that Rej simply voting there caused you to move your vote. That means you were never serious about being okay with Epi being lynched in the first place. Therefore it makes that post scummy.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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To be honest I have found most of your Rej engagements since this day began to be pretty awkward.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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I believe that you believe in what you're saying Dragomir, but I think it's misguided. Rej's suspicion of you, which I find disagreeable and reliant upon considerable stretches, is still difficult to associate with some kind of mafia "agenda". If a mafia Rej is doing this, I think it'd have to be because a mafia Rej feels like doing it. Strategically speaking, spending his time and resources working against you is unlikely to net your lynch given your stature in other players' reads. If Rej wants to be rid of you for some reason, it's hard to understand why his chosen approach would be "kill Long Con and then pursue a Dragomir lynch" instead of just "kill Dragomir".
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Epignosis wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:19 pm I have a few minutes. I don't know if I can offer anything helpful, but I'm here for a little bit.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:10 pm If there is only one Mafioso left then your "There's mafioso on this wagon" post doesn't really hold water imo.
Why not?
If there's one mafioso and it's [not Epignosis], it could be anyone voting for Epignosis (or otherwise). Rej joining the wagon means little other than you already suspected him and now it gives you the willies. Do you suspect Rej more than you suspect Epignosis in isolation?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:19 pm I have a few minutes. I don't know if I can offer anything helpful, but I'm here for a little bit.
Why Rej?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:27 pm To be honest I have found most of your Rej engagements since this day began to be pretty awkward.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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I don't suspect Dragomir. You all are fooling yourselves. What does bad Dragomir have to gain from this? Come on.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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This is the last time I'm available before the Day is over, I see. I won't be available to change my vote or do anything then. I suspect Rej and nutella the most. I guess. I haven't even been reading. Just make good decisions in the aftermath of my lynch. That's all I can ask.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Epignosis wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:08 pm I don't suspect Dragomir. You all are fooling yourselves. What does bad Dragomir have to gain from this? Come on.
Indeed. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Neither Epi or Dragomir are bad.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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I think Nutella is maybe the answer?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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yes drago changed in his playstyle, this is indiscussable, is there mafia abilities that forces someone to lead a mislynch for them? out of curiosity.

else based on my day 1 suspicion on Epignosis I feel free to enter the epignosis wagon whenever I please, I can always come back to it plus add my D2 thoughts and feels to it.

I would have no problems to vote Dragomir, as he could also provide info to the civillians, I am so torn and for me personally it is hard to find a new option.

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:27 pm I think Nutella is maybe the answer?
why nutella?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Epignosis wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:19 pm I have a few minutes. I don't know if I can offer anything helpful, but I'm here for a little bit.
Why Rej?
He's phoning it in (I know, I know), and he needs to be a lynch target ahead of the game after I've gone because he can't kill everybody.
In what way is Rej phoning it in? I don't have that impression.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:26 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:13 pm Let's lynch Epi, if he flips town then we lynch Rej next DP does that sound like a good deal?
At this stage you were evidently happy to lynch Epi. That you also suspected Rej is known.
Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:25 pm [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:30 pm I'm not voting for Epi no more. There's a scum on that wagon.
And as soon as Rej put his vote on Epi then you're off him and back to Rej? I do not understand why Rej voting Epi should alter your perspective there. You already suspected him. Either he is town and agreeing with your ultimatum (which is my opinion) or he's a Mafia going along with your plan anyway, so you should be happy? The sudden reaction doesn't make sense.

Your pretext for agreeing to the Epi wagon and your vote there was so flimsy that Rej simply voting there caused you to move your vote. That means you were never serious about being okay with Epi being lynched in the first place. Therefore it makes that post scummy.
Because I suspect Rej and him voting for Epi pretty much confirms Epi as town in my eyes. So why would I stay on it? The sudden reaction makes perfect sense and my post is not scummy. Yeah, I was never really serious with Epi being lynched. I was frustrated how y'all didn't give a shit about Rej so I wanted to propose a deal and if it worked out, we could start giving a shit about Rej.
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[mention]Rej[/mention] what is your perspective of Dragomir as of this very moment?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:39 pm yes drago changed in his playstyle, this is indiscussable, is there mafia abilities that forces someone to lead a mislynch for them? out of curiosity.

else based on my day 1 suspicion on Epignosis I feel free to enter the epignosis wagon whenever I please, I can always come back to it plus add my D2 thoughts and feels to it.

I would have no problems to vote Dragomir, as he could also provide info to the civillians, I am so torn and for me personally it is hard to find a new option.

[VOTE: novote] aubergine
Rej, stop bullshitting about it. You know I'm town. There's no info to be gain from my lynch.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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Rej wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:39 pm I would have no problems to vote Dragomir, as he could also provide info to the civillians
What?
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:10 pm If there is only one Mafioso left then your "There's mafioso on this wagon" post doesn't really hold water imo.
Why not?
If there's one mafioso and it's [not Epignosis], it could be anyone voting for Epignosis (or otherwise). Rej joining the wagon means little other than you already suspected him and now it gives you the willies. Do you suspect Rej more than you suspect Epignosis in isolation?
I don't even suspect Epi.
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[VOTE: Rej] aubergine
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I still suspect Epignosis. A bunch of resigned posts and "Dragomir is town" do nothing for me.
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MacDougall wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:27 pm I think Nutella is maybe the answer?
Reasons, please.
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Re: Persona 5 Mafia [Day 2]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:32 pm I believe that you believe in what you're saying Dragomir, but I think it's misguided. Rej's suspicion of you, which I find disagreeable and reliant upon considerable stretches, is still difficult to associate with some kind of mafia "agenda". If a mafia Rej is doing this, I think it'd have to be because a mafia Rej feels like doing it. Strategically speaking, spending his time and resources working against you is unlikely to net your lynch given your stature in other players' reads. If Rej wants to be rid of you for some reason, it's hard to understand why his chosen approach would be "kill Long Con and then pursue a Dragomir lynch" instead of just "kill Dragomir".
Why kill me? I'm pretty sure everyone and their mother thought I'd be protected. I don't think he actually wants to get me lynched. He's just trying to spend his time he knows ain't getting lynched to look contributive. He's trying to pull what TSP did and evidently by this exact post of yours, it's working. Why town read Rej? I don't get it.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:01 am [VOTE: Rej] aubergine
What took you so long to get to this point?
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I need an essay explaining the awkwardness in my Rej engagements cause I 100% strongly disagree.
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