Persona 5 Mafia [Game End]

[MacDougall]

Jack's post history actually has quite a lot of TMI in it now that I look, and the engagement with TSP looks like distancing now in the context of the dramatic way he ended up voting for him. Nuff said. Game solved. Fucking get in the bin.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack why do you protect Creature so much? Every time I've looked at him side eyed you've angrily shouted me down.

Because he’s shirt that says “easy mislynch” and people are treating him like a Jack or a Nutella instead of like a Sig or a Simon.

I don’t even have a strong read on him. I just think pointing out scummy shit that is typical Creature is unhelpful at best.

Yeah more like TMI.

You win as scum by getting a certain number of mislynches and Creature is good for one. If I’m bussing Tony and a towncore is coming together, why am I also nixing easy mislynches?

[MacDougall]

Jack why do you protect Creature so much? Every time I've looked at him side eyed you've angrily shouted me down.

Because he’s shirt that says “easy mislynch” and people are treating him like a Jack or a Nutella instead of like a Sig or a Simon.

I don’t even have a strong read on him. I just think pointing out scummy shit that is typical Creature is unhelpful at best.

Yeah more like TMI.

You win as scum by getting a certain number of mislynches and Creature is good for one. If I’m bussing Tony and a towncore is coming together, why am I also nixing easy mislynches?

Yeah nah sorry I don't drink bottom shelf shit bro.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Reasons why people read me as a civilian, to my knowledge (if they read me that way as it appears?):

Creature: I don't know.
Dragomir: He has dealt with me all game long and decided to make an executive decision in my favor.
Epignosis: I haven't goofed? Not sure.
MacDougall: He dealt with me in some recent exchanges and decided to make an executive decision in my favor.
Rej: I have made good effort.
sprityo: I am outside my mafia range, particularly for trying new things.
Tony: I can mostly only be teamed with people he reads as civilian (e.g. sprityo/Creature).

I believe Dragomir and MacDougall. I believe sprityo. I'm not actually sure if Epignosis reads me as a civilian. I struggle to believe Tony (to be so confident in sprityo/Creature that I can be exonerated by extension? Eh?). Rej's reasoning is kinda meh. I dunno with Creature.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack's post history actually has quite a lot of TMI in it now that I look, and the engagement with TSP looks like distancing now in the context of the dramatic way he ended up voting for him. Nuff said. Game solved. Fucking get in the bin.

You can’t lynch me cause I’ll just change my avatar and personality.

x

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack why do you protect Creature so much? Every time I've looked at him side eyed you've angrily shouted me down.

Because he’s shirt that says “easy mislynch” and people are treating him like a Jack or a Nutella instead of like a Sig or a Simon.

I don’t even have a strong read on him. I just think pointing out scummy shit that is typical Creature is unhelpful at best.

Yeah more like TMI.

You win as scum by getting a certain number of mislynches and Creature is good for one. If I’m bussing Tony and a towncore is coming together, why am I also nixing easy mislynches?

Yeah nah sorry I don't drink bottom shelf shit bro.

You probably hee drink Coors Light ho!

[MacDougall]

Jack why do you protect Creature so much? Every time I've looked at him side eyed you've angrily shouted me down.

Because he’s shirt that says “easy mislynch” and people are treating him like a Jack or a Nutella instead of like a Sig or a Simon.

I don’t even have a strong read on him. I just think pointing out scummy shit that is typical Creature is unhelpful at best.

Yeah more like TMI.

You win as scum by getting a certain number of mislynches and Creature is good for one. If I’m bussing Tony and a towncore is coming together, why am I also nixing easy mislynches?

Yeah nah sorry I don't drink bottom shelf shit bro.

You probably hee drink Coors Light ho!

Nah I only drink Fosters out of novelty sized cans.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

rej vote: I reread him and found issue with the post where he responded to being asked about Drago I will go find it for you if you want

Please do.

Epi vote: I was gonna vote for Rej and then I was like "nah if I vote for Epi maybe I can get him to join in this fiasco" and then I decided it was enough of a fiasco

Do you believe this fiasco is to the benefit of your faction?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack why do you protect Creature so much? Every time I've looked at him side eyed you've angrily shouted me down.

Because he’s shirt that says “easy mislynch” and people are treating him like a Jack or a Nutella instead of like a Sig or a Simon.

I don’t even have a strong read on him. I just think pointing out scummy shit that is typical Creature is unhelpful at best.

Yeah more like TMI.

You win as scum by getting a certain number of mislynches and Creature is good for one. If I’m bussing Tony and a towncore is coming together, why am I also nixing easy mislynches?

Yeah nah sorry I don't drink bottom shelf shit bro.

You probably hee drink Coors Light ho!

Nah I only drink Fosters out of novelty sized cans.

I thought Aussies don’t drink Fosters.

[MacDougall]

@nutella you actually think jack is a wolf but haven't been able to formulate the why of it right?

[MacDougall]

Because he’s shirt that says “easy mislynch” and people are treating him like a Jack or a Nutella instead of like a Sig or a Simon.

I don’t even have a strong read on him. I just think pointing out scummy shit that is typical Creature is unhelpful at best.

Yeah more like TMI.

You win as scum by getting a certain number of mislynches and Creature is good for one. If I’m bussing Tony and a towncore is coming together, why am I also nixing easy mislynches?

Yeah nah sorry I don't drink bottom shelf shit bro.

You probably hee drink Coors Light ho!

Nah I only drink Fosters out of novelty sized cans.

I thought Aussies don’t drink Fosters.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Piss break for children.

JJJ, you have two voters on you. What is your take on them. Neither of them are ignorant so and sos. So what are they?

What is your take on them? Jack and nutella.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Drago is behaving unlike he has in the two games I just played where he was town

How would you summarize the difference?

He’s not going after Rej and he’s not getting into silly fights that I don’t comprehend

@Dragomir
@Rej

Please tell me what you think of TSP's assertions.

I recently carried my first games as town actively destroying mafia, so I made big progress as a player, maybe a reason drago changed his general behaviour towards me. Else I have no clue, Drago prefers questioning me before deeper interaction with me, now he did not question me and instantly went the route of interacting together with me.
For sure suspicious, but could be a change in meta. Drago isn't one who would openly do sheeping moves.

context: rej is mostly calling drago town

[TonyStarkPrime]

Rej is basing his own opinions on people based on what other people say about them. He doesn't have a vote on the board. He's acting like a politician. Mafia. Lynch. Go.

But I think my thoughts are original, so this is a conflict of interests my man.

Rej is basing his own opinions on people based on what other people say about them. He doesn't have a vote on the board. He's acting like a politician. Mafia. Lynch. Go.

That's how Rej plays the game.

Does it make him a civilian?

In a way, yes. I don't recall his scum play very well, only his town play and him being a politician fits the meta.

Again I am trying to be original, weren't I the first one here to go after Epignosis without pre conflict? xD but yeah as uninformed, I tend to interact with those that town/scum read me and observe those that are out of interaction.

With this and combined with my previous reads I feel like creature is town and not mislynch or lynch worthy. Guy tries to fiddle back into game.

further: Rej seeking town credit

[Jackofhearts2005]

I am going back to TSP for now. If he flips wolf I am gonna fuck you up Jack.

Hee ho you and what army?

But I’m not gonna argue with where your vote is.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m not commenting on JJJ/Nutella because I hate day zero arguments around two people with little substance. Gut is both town.

I skimmed through TSPs ISO because he is also on a hot seat currently.
If he really is scum then a reason for the above statement could be TMI. In a sense of that TSP knows both are civillians and from scum perspective he couldn't add much to the V/V scenario. It saw already scum doing such sorts of mistakes.

I won't move to TSP for that reason, but I just wanted to let you guys know that I didn't like this. Even if it is D0.

"hey guys here's my opinion but I won't do anything about it but just in case you know"

[Epignosis]

Epignosis is 100% town so I dunno how he has votes.

Beautiful people get votes.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think Tony's gripes with Rej here are valid.

[TonyStarkPrime]

rej vote: I reread him and found issue with the post where he responded to being asked about Drago I will go find it for you if you want

Please do.

Epi vote: I was gonna vote for Rej and then I was like "nah if I vote for Epi maybe I can get him to join in this fiasco" and then I decided it was enough of a fiasco

Do you believe this fiasco is to the benefit of your faction?

uhh no
but I'm sure enjoying it

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] why is Rej a civilian?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think Tony's gripes with Rej here are valid.

That’s cause you’re teamed.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jackofhearts2005 why is Rej a civilian?

Cause he doesn’t feel like Sockvale Prison Experiment Rej.

Cause Drago is supatown and has Rej’s number and hasn’t tried to eat him.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

and you both only townread me AFTER I voted for jay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think Tony's gripes with Rej here are valid.

That’s cause you’re teamed.

Seriously would you get the hell over this for one moment and consider the game from another point of view?

You suspect me. No shit. We all know that already. This post adds nothing to anything and it is a bad contribution to the civilian cause even if it's honest. This is not how business should be handled.

Pretend I don't exist for eight seconds and consider Tony's gripes with Rej.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jackofhearts2005 why is Rej a civilian?

Cause he doesn’t feel like Sockvale Prison Experiment Rej.

Cause Drago is supatown and has Rej’s number and hasn’t tried to eat him.

The first reason is Meta Strategy 1, and I don't do much of anything with it.

The second reason is garbage.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

and you both only townread me AFTER I voted for jay

No, I disliked your Jay vote. I liked your bit about me and Drago distancing.

[Epignosis]

Reasons why people read me as a civilian, to my knowledge (if they read me that way as it appears?):

Creature: I don't know.
Dragomir: He has dealt with me all game long and decided to make an executive decision in my favor.
Epignosis: I haven't goofed? Not sure.
MacDougall: He dealt with me in some recent exchanges and decided to make an executive decision in my favor.
Rej: I have made good effort.
sprityo: I am outside my mafia range, particularly for trying new things.
Tony: I can mostly only be teamed with people he reads as civilian (e.g. sprityo/Creature).

I believe Dragomir and MacDougall. I believe sprityo. I'm not actually sure if Epignosis reads me as a civilian. I struggle to believe Tony (to be so confident in sprityo/Creature that I can be exonerated by extension? Eh?). Rej's reasoning is kinda meh. I dunno with Creature.

You will never ever get a free pass from me unless mechanics say otherwise.

There. I've saved you some time.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

"Rej is a civilian because Dragomir hasn't gone after him" is as silly as it gets. That's a stronger defense of Rej than Dragomir himself ever provided for Rej. I mean come on.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jackofhearts2005 why is Rej a civilian?

Cause he doesn’t feel like Sockvale Prison Experiment Rej.

Cause Drago is supatown and has Rej’s number and hasn’t tried to eat him.

The first reason is Meta Strategy 1, and I don't do much of anything with it.

The second reason is garbage.

Actual photograph of Jay right now.

[Epignosis]

Piss break for children.

JJJ, you have two voters on you. What is your take on them. Neither of them are ignorant so and sos. So what are they?

What is your take on them? Jack and nutella.

Jack- civilian

nutella- mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Actual photograph of Jay right now.

You're ridiculous enough right now that I'm thinking you're trolling me again.

[Epignosis]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

I raise my hand.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Actual photograph of Jay right now.

You're ridiculous enough right now that I'm thinking you're trolling me again.

You can’t kill me tonight cause Mac suspects me.

There. Now I’m trolling you.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

I raise my hand.

Why?

[Epignosis]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

I raise my hand.

Why?

Oh ffs.

[Epignosis]

Read the shit I say.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony is talking while he's on the chopping block. He isn't frantic. He doesn't strike me as someone angling for opportunity. He's just answering questions as they come and saying his piece.

Rej is not talking while he's on the chopping block. He's frozen.

[Epignosis]

I'm sorry. That was unkind. I'll find my post for you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis, what has you trusting TSP?

I didn't say I trust him- I'm putting him in your boat. The H.M.S. BadDay1Lynch. TSP has always struck me as analytical, and that's more useful when there's more to analyze.

What makes TSP a good Day 1 lynch for you?

Epi I see a "don't necessarily trust but wouldn't lynch" for Tony. Is this now concretely a read in his favor?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tony is talking while he's on the chopping block. He isn't frantic. He doesn't strike me as someone angling for opportunity. He's just answering questions as they come and saying his piece.

Rej is not talking while he's on the chopping block. He's frozen.

He’s posting memes, dare jokes and trying to push a Rej lynch...

[Epignosis]

I can't find the post where I talked about Tony. I know JJJ asked me about him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony is talking while he's on the chopping block. He isn't frantic. He doesn't strike me as someone angling for opportunity. He's just answering questions as they come and saying his piece.

Rej is not talking while he's on the chopping block. He's frozen.

He’s posting memes, dare jokes and trying to push a Rej lynch...

What is Rej doing other than let you defend him?

[MacDougall]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

When have I?

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, what has you trusting TSP?

I didn't say I trust him- I'm putting him in your boat. The H.M.S. BadDay1Lynch. TSP has always struck me as analytical, and that's more useful when there's more to analyze.

What makes TSP a good Day 1 lynch for you?

Epi I see a "don't necessarily trust but wouldn't lynch" for Tony. Is this now concretely a read in his favor?

I distinctly remember last night speaking in favor of Tony and I cannot find the post.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony is talking while he's on the chopping block. He isn't frantic. He doesn't strike me as someone angling for opportunity. He's just answering questions as they come and saying his piece.

Rej is not talking while he's on the chopping block. He's frozen.

He’s posting memes, dare jokes and trying to push a Rej lynch...

Yes that's right. Jack told me that I could have fun in mafia

[TonyStarkPrime]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

When have I?

when you voted for rej for fifteen seconds earlier apparently

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, what has you trusting TSP?

I didn't say I trust him- I'm putting him in your boat. The H.M.S. BadDay1Lynch. TSP has always struck me as analytical, and that's more useful when there's more to analyze.

What makes TSP a good Day 1 lynch for you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tony is talking while he's on the chopping block. He isn't frantic. He doesn't strike me as someone angling for opportunity. He's just answering questions as they come and saying his piece.

Rej is not talking while he's on the chopping block. He's frozen.

He’s posting memes, dare jokes and trying to push a Rej lynch...

Yes that's right. Jack told me that I could have fun in mafia

You have four current voters. Drago, nutella, Jack, Mac.

What's the deal with each of them? Please answer quickly.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Does anyone townread Tony?

I feel like Mac and I are the only people who have done so this game.

When have I?

For like 4 min you said he looked sincere before you decided I was bussing him.