Arrowverse Mafia - Day 8

[Dragomir]

Oh man, when Felicia dies, I get to say BYE FELICIA.

Ay! On me bro! I'm down for this.

[Matahari]

I don’t understand why people say the cult is anti town. I pm’d the host to find out how the cult works, and I recommend everyone else do that too, if you are in doubt. It doesn’t seem to hurt the town at all. I hope Felicity goes after a killer.
Maybe someone can explain what is meant by Anti town, when the cult can win with the town.

[Dragomir]

That's two people I have the hots for.

Anybody else want to give me the hots tonight?

That's kinda gay but ok.

[Sloonei]

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] walk me through what is suspicious about my early questioning of Ultra to you.

The plan he was proposing is certifiably against the rules. I said so as a longtime veteran of this community. Epignosis said so as a longtime veteran of this community. nutella said so as a longtime veteran of this community. DFaraday said so as our host and as a longtime veteran of this community. This point isn't even up for debate.

As for your stance on my questioning of him: you suggest that this looks more like scum trying to "feel out" their opponent to determine if they're a threat or now. How does my particular line of questioning reflect that motive and not, say, a civilian who wants to get a feel for a player they've never played with?

[Epignosis]

That's two people I have the hots for.

Anybody else want to give me the hots tonight?

That's kinda gay but ok.

You must be twelve.

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir walk me through what is suspicious about my early questioning of Ultra to you.

The plan he was proposing is certifiably against the rules. I said so as a longtime veteran of this community. Epignosis said so as a longtime veteran of this community. nutella said so as a longtime veteran of this community. DFaraday said so as our host and as a longtime veteran of this community. This point isn't even up for debate.

As for your stance on my questioning of him: you suggest that this looks more like scum trying to "feel out" their opponent to determine if they're a threat or now. How does my particular line of questioning reflect that motive and not, say, a civilian who wants to get a feel for a player they've never played with?

Ok, chill out goddamn. It's against the rules Jesus.

I don't really see the point in a civ asking such questions when they get a better answer by watching the player play the game.

[Dragomir]

I don’t understand why people say the cult is anti town. I pm’d the host to find out how the cult works, and I recommend everyone else do that too, if you are in doubt. It doesn’t seem to hurt the town at all. I hope Felicity goes after a killer.
Maybe someone can explain what is meant by Anti town, when the cult can win with the town.

Cult winning with town? Inconceivable.

[Dragomir]

Civilians must vote to keep their heels on the throat of mafia. Any plan that recommends civilians do not vote is suspect to me.

Strawmanning my proposition. Scummy.

No. He's stating something that is more or less taken for granted on this site. What's going on here is culture clash, but it's not scummy.

Two potential problems with your plan that are more specific than just general cultural aversion:
(1) DF didn't specify this but in many games on this site players are really not supposed to miss the vote and can be admonished/modkilled/replaced for not voting because it's viewed as a "participation score" and again this is a cultural thing but even if it's not in the rules by the host, it's viewed as poor play and not pro-town because, again, we value the lynch poll as the main tool of the town faction to win the game.
(2) This isn't necessarily clear in the role description but I'd guess that Felicity's role is restricted to the night phase and would not have had a chance to get a peek by day 1. I could be wrong about this though.

Damn, @bold y'all got some weird rules. I like this place.

[Matahari]

I don’t understand why people say the cult is anti town. I pm’d the host to find out how the cult works, and I recommend everyone else do that too, if you are in doubt. It doesn’t seem to hurt the town at all. I hope Felicity goes after a killer.
Maybe someone can explain what is meant by Anti town, when the cult can win with the town.

Cult winning with town? Inconceivable.

PM the host and ask. That’s what I understood from the answer he gave me.

[MafiaMenace]

just cus you say nigga dont make you sound cool bro

[Dragomir]

I don't suspect Ultra. Bottom line.

I suspect Matahari.

Eh?

Do you...object to me suspecting Matahari?

Or do you object to me not suspecting Ultra?

No I'm wondering why you brought up Matahari. I'm not objecting, just kind of perplexed and wanting elaboration.

Are you concerned for your scum buddy?

[Dragomir]

just cus you say nigga dont make you sound cool bro

I don't say nigga to sound cool lmao. Dunno even what the hell made you think that. I just felt like saying, I say it a lot in real life so why not online.

[MafiaMenace]

just cus you say nigga dont make you sound cool bro

I don't say nigga to sound cool lmao. Dunno even what the hell made you think that. I just felt like saying, I say it a lot in real life so why not online.

yes you do and its obvoius

because you sound stiff when you say it
i doubt you use it ever

epi must be right with his assumption

[Dragomir]

just cus you say nigga dont make you sound cool bro

I don't say nigga to sound cool lmao. Dunno even what the hell made you think that. I just felt like saying, I say it a lot in real life so why not online.

yes you do and its obvoius

because you sound stiff when you say it
i doubt you use it ever

epi must be right with his assumption

You really want to go bro? Cause I am really getting pissed off at the lack of truth in this entire. "I sound stiff" bro what? Get the hell out of here with that shit.

I SAY NIGGA ALL THE FUCKING TIME, SO GET OUTA HERE WITH THIS SHIT.

[Dragomir]

I'm actually 16 not 12 but ok.

[Sloonei]

@Dragomir walk me through what is suspicious about my early questioning of Ultra to you.

The plan he was proposing is certifiably against the rules. I said so as a longtime veteran of this community. Epignosis said so as a longtime veteran of this community. nutella said so as a longtime veteran of this community. DFaraday said so as our host and as a longtime veteran of this community. This point isn't even up for debate.

As for your stance on my questioning of him: you suggest that this looks more like scum trying to "feel out" their opponent to determine if they're a threat or now. How does my particular line of questioning reflect that motive and not, say, a civilian who wants to get a feel for a player they've never played with?

Ok, chill out goddamn. It's against the rules Jesus.

I don't really see the point in a civ asking such questions when they get a better answer by watching the player play the game.

I could just sit and idly watch him play the game. Or I could get myself involved and expedite the process, get him to say the things that I am looking for him to say. I didn't get much of a chance to observe Ultra as a host in the scrimmage, and he was not town. I wanted to have a sense of who he is before we make our way deeper into this game.

You're still not explaining what you think was out of place in my questioning. You're just reiterating that you don't think I needed to do it. Why?

linki: i didn't realize this post hadn't gone through and have been working on something else for a few minutes.

[Sloonei]

In answer to some popular questions:

The game continues until either the civs or baddies are eliminated, or Deathstroke is LMS. The Legends can achieve their win condition without ending the game. They can win with any faction except Deathstroke. Rip can recruit any role that is not un-recruitable, including Mafia.

Also the plan players suggested earlier would effectively be asking a player to roleclaim, so it's right out.

[Dragomir]

Bro, if you need me to take a goddamn picture of myself to prove to you that I'm black(which hopefully tells you that I say nigga all the time) cause I swear I do.

[Sloonei]

just cus you say nigga dont make you sound cool bro

I don't say nigga to sound cool lmao. Dunno even what the hell made you think that. I just felt like saying, I say it a lot in real life so why not online.

yes you do and its obvoius

because you sound stiff when you say it
i doubt you use it ever

epi must be right with his assumption

You really want to go bro? Cause I am really getting pissed off at the lack of truth in this entire. "I sound stiff" bro what? Get the hell out of here with that shit.

I SAY NIGGA ALL THE FUCKING TIME, SO GET OUTA HERE WITH THIS SHIT.

I do not think that this is an argument to be having in this mafia game right now.

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir walk me through what is suspicious about my early questioning of Ultra to you.

The plan he was proposing is certifiably against the rules. I said so as a longtime veteran of this community. Epignosis said so as a longtime veteran of this community. nutella said so as a longtime veteran of this community. DFaraday said so as our host and as a longtime veteran of this community. This point isn't even up for debate.

As for your stance on my questioning of him: you suggest that this looks more like scum trying to "feel out" their opponent to determine if they're a threat or now. How does my particular line of questioning reflect that motive and not, say, a civilian who wants to get a feel for a player they've never played with?

Ok, chill out goddamn. It's against the rules Jesus.

I don't really see the point in a civ asking such questions when they get a better answer by watching the player play the game.

I could just sit and idly watch him play the game. Or I could get myself involved and expedite the process, get him to say the things that I am looking for him to say. I didn't get much of a chance to observe Ultra as a host in the scrimmage, and he was not town. I wanted to have a sense of who he is before we make our way deeper into this game.

You're still not explaining what you think was out of place in my questioning. You're just reiterating that you don't think I needed to do it. Why?

linki: i didn't realize this post hadn't gone through and have been working on something else for a few minutes.

Ok.

I literally did in the post I called you out for it. I don't see why I should repeat it again when you can just go back to that. It shouldn't be that far away.

[Dragomir]

just cus you say nigga dont make you sound cool bro

I don't say nigga to sound cool lmao. Dunno even what the hell made you think that. I just felt like saying, I say it a lot in real life so why not online.

yes you do and its obvoius

because you sound stiff when you say it
i doubt you use it ever

epi must be right with his assumption

You really want to go bro? Cause I am really getting pissed off at the lack of truth in this entire. "I sound stiff" bro what? Get the hell out of here with that shit.

I SAY NIGGA ALL THE FUCKING TIME, SO GET OUTA HERE WITH THIS SHIT.

I do not think that this is an argument to be having in this mafia game right now.

It's D0, so it's alright.

[Dragomir]

@MafiaMenace sorry for the anger flare in that post. I just got really pissed at what you said.

[Dragomir]

@MafiaMenace sorry for the anger flare in that post. I just got really pissed at what you said.

[mention]MafiaMenace[/mention]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey gang,

Let's please ensure that we respect the rules and guidelines (click) of the site with regard to language that can be interpreted as derogatory or as a slur. I know that no offense has been intended; but these rules must still be followed. Thanks and have fun with the game! If anyone has any concerns, please don't hesitate to send a message to your facilitator dunya!

[Sloonei]

Ok.

I literally did in the post I called you out for it. I don't see why I should repeat it again when you can just go back to that. It shouldn't be that far away.

If I'm understanding everything correctly, this is what you've said:

I really ain't liking this post Sloonei. I ain't liking a lot of your posts tbh. Your questions at Ultra are pinging me the wrong. Like scum tryna get a feel for his opponent to know if to be wary of them or not or maybe kill them. I mean if you want to know how he plays as town, just watch him play from D1 forth. His answers won't really tell me you much.

I am not asking you to repeat that. I am asking you to explain it. Why do my questions give you that specific impression?

[Sloonei]

I said I was gonna hold off on my full nutella suspicion until Day 1 is officially underway, but I'm bored and impatient, so here goes.

Mind you, when I say that I have a suspicion this early in the game, I am in no way suggesting that I'm married to this read. This is just me floating some initial concerns I have about a player. I'm making this disclaimer here because there are a number of folks who've never played with me before in this game and I'm already feeling that my approach is causing some confusion and making people misread my intentions.

Onto the actual substance: When I consider nutella as a suspect, two trends stand out to me so far in this game. 1) low-hanging fruit, and 2) downplaying of suspicion/pressure. I've picked out a few examples from her ISO (sorry Lux):

I have substantiated a gripe that I have with a Speedchuck post on Day 0. It exists to bolster the conversation in the thread.

Speedchuck gave an indecisive wave of the hand. I'd like him to tell us what it means, and I'd like other people to comment on it.

Why does your response exist?

I don't feel strongly about it either way. It's something I can easily imagine myself saying as well, as a general impulse to sort out what I'm thinking about people who have been active in the thread so far.

What is your read on the player called Sloonei so far?

The usual General town read while keeping the roll of foil within reach if needed.

The player called Sloonei is grilling nutella a little bit. Nothing serious, but the directness of the final question in this exchange suggests attentiveness on his part. nutella gives it a casual sidestep, leaning (it would seem) more toward the "General town read", but with enough resistance in the "roll of foil" comment to avoid rolling over completely. I would file this under "downplaying pressure".

hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

Truly inspiring

sprityo drops in and drops out. I don't object to keeping tabs on him and putting pressure on him to post more. What bothers me about this is the bluntness of nutella's response. She's being purposefully oppositional toward sprit. It looks more like she's putting a tab on future suspect than she is trying to wrangle content out of a quiet player. File this under "low-hanging fruit".

She later names "everyone whose name starts with M" as suspects. These are her reasons:

Also he suspected Epi for giving out town reads which is something town Epi does and actually I believe Mac did the same thing in scrimmage.


Mata has checked in only to laugh off Epi's statement of suspicion of her and to provide some slank cover.


Mafmen is just focused on mechanics and I feel like there were bits of it that seemed like they could have come from a scum perspective

I have no direct objections to her Mac suspicion here, so I've cut it out of the post. But it exists and I don't want to seem like I'm dismissing it.
Matahari and MafiaMenace are low-hanging fruit here. Mata falls into the same category as sprit. She goes after MafiaMenace for his focus on mechanics to that point, which is something I've already commented on. These are not particularly inspired suspicions.

Her responses to my declaration of suspicion:

If Day 1 started right now my vote would be on nutella.

If Day 1 started right now my vote would be on nutella.

Your suspicions are gravitating around people focusing too much on mechanics and I don’t see you as a driving force in the thread. You’re reacting rather than creating. It feels safe.

They're not. People have made me talk most about my MM suspicion but it is the weakest of the three, and the others are not mechanics-related.

I always react more than create. You know that. I still have original reads to the extent that I normally would at this stage. Your reason is empty. This is a poopybarf read.

The last bit is laying it on a little thick.

sloonei: *asks me who I suspect*
me: *says who I suspect and talks about it for several posts*
sloonei: *asks me who I suspect*
sloonei: *is mafia*

I am now mafia.

Nutella, I’m calling you out for having big eyes, big teeth, etc.

You got me, those are some of my best features

This reminds me of The Story of the Wolf and The Llama. Once upon a time the Llama would go around asking everyone if they were wolves. Of course everyone was supposed to say no, but the Llama realized that the actual Wolf had trouble saying so.

Nutella, how do you respond to my vague accusations and intention to arrow you in the pancreas?

you haven't given me much to respond to, so as of now I just fart in your general direction. I think you're making it up for reactions but you won't catch me there

So you can be caught?

lol nah I'm the gingerbread man

See above.

Sloonei is really overeager about his suspicion of me, he's latching onto everything I say as suspicious in whatever way he can twist it to be. I think he's scum who's really excited to be in a multiball game and taking advantage of the fact that he can still hunt to do it excessively to look town

This isn't downplaying the suspicion, this is exaggerating it so that it can be twisted into a suspicion. Which is what she's accusing me of doing.

Also nutella was town reading me until others started to suspect me. See above.

Caveat to all of this for those who don't know nutella well, and for the sake of fairness: she is a very impulsive player. It's what makes her great. She is never afraid to make quick judgments and reads. I perceive nutella's town playstyle as bouncing around from one read to the next until she finds the one that feels right. I can see that in her posts. But I also see her possibly trying too hard to brush off the pressure against her, and I see her going after unimaginative targets. These are concerning things.

[Dragomir]

Ok.

I literally did in the post I called you out for it. I don't see why I should repeat it again when you can just go back to that. It shouldn't be that far away.

If I'm understanding everything correctly, this is what you've said:

I really ain't liking this post Sloonei. I ain't liking a lot of your posts tbh. Your questions at Ultra are pinging me the wrong. Like scum tryna get a feel for his opponent to know if to be wary of them or not or maybe kill them. I mean if you want to know how he plays as town, just watch him play from D1 forth. His answers won't really tell me you much.

I am not asking you to repeat that. I am asking you to explain it. Why do my questions give you that specific impression?

You kept asking how he plays as town and whatnot, so kinda just got that feel. Also, only saw a scum perspective to that mindset so it's what I thought first

[Dragomir]

Hey gang,

Let's please ensure that we respect the rules and guidelines (click) of the site with regard to language that can be interpreted as derogatory or as a slur. I know that no offense has been intended; but these rules must still be followed. Thanks and have fun with the game! If anyone has any concerns, please don't hesitate to send a message to your facilitator dunya!

Sorry mate, just lost control of myself.

[MafiaMenace]

LOL

[Sloonei]

Ok.

I literally did in the post I called you out for it. I don't see why I should repeat it again when you can just go back to that. It shouldn't be that far away.

If I'm understanding everything correctly, this is what you've said:

I really ain't liking this post Sloonei. I ain't liking a lot of your posts tbh. Your questions at Ultra are pinging me the wrong. Like scum tryna get a feel for his opponent to know if to be wary of them or not or maybe kill them. I mean if you want to know how he plays as town, just watch him play from D1 forth. His answers won't really tell me you much.

I am not asking you to repeat that. I am asking you to explain it. Why do my questions give you that specific impression?

You kept asking how he plays as town and whatnot, so kinda just got that feel. Also, only saw a scum perspective to that mindset so it's what I thought first

I had to ask a few times to pry loose the information that I was looking for. Ultra wasn't entirely forthcoming. That's not an uncommon thing, but when it happens I like to keep chipping away to see just how close to the vest he's going to be playing. Ultra gave me the sense that they're a cagey player who knows how they want to approach the game but doesn't want to telegraph all of their moves. He was probably also feeling me out in the process.

That's what I learned from my questioning. It helped me establish my first town read of the game.

[Dragomir]

I like that iso by Sloo.

[nutella]

I don't suspect Ultra. Bottom line.

I suspect Matahari.

Eh?

Do you...object to me suspecting Matahari?

Or do you object to me not suspecting Ultra?

No I'm wondering why you brought up Matahari. I'm not objecting, just kind of perplexed and wanting elaboration.

Are you concerned for your scum buddy?

bro.... mata is my top suspect as you will find out when you catch up i guess

[nutella]

Ok I don't want to step outside the game but as a mod I see a post was reported and I don't really understand the argument but can we please refrain from using slurs in this community thank you.

[nutella]

oh nvm it was addressed I'm behind sorry

[Matahari]

I don't suspect Ultra. Bottom line.

I suspect Matahari.

Eh?

Do you...object to me suspecting Matahari?

Or do you object to me not suspecting Ultra?

No I'm wondering why you brought up Matahari. I'm not objecting, just kind of perplexed and wanting elaboration.

Are you concerned for your scum buddy?

bro.... mata is my top suspect as you will find out when you catch up i guess

I don’t know why I’m your top suspect. Could you fill me in?

[Dragomir]

I don't suspect Ultra. Bottom line.

I suspect Matahari.

Eh?

Do you...object to me suspecting Matahari?

Or do you object to me not suspecting Ultra?

No I'm wondering why you brought up Matahari. I'm not objecting, just kind of perplexed and wanting elaboration.

Are you concerned for your scum buddy?

bro.... mata is my top suspect as you will find out when you catch up i guess

Don't be acting like suspecting anybody means anything after the last game where Mafia(JJJ and Ultra) bussed each other D1.

[Matahari]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] just to be clear, I didn’t go after MM for his post about whatever you said. He quoted a couple posts and he didn’t say anything about them. I wanted to know why he quoted them. He answered me, so that was all.

[sprityo]

hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

whatup? what's happening in this game? do you approve or disapprove of anything?

that's a matter of opinion

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei just to be clear, I didn’t go after MM for his post about whatever you said. He quoted a couple posts and he didn’t say anything about them. I wanted to know why he quoted them. He answered me, so that was all.

What did you think of his response?

[Sloonei]

hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

whatup? what's happening in this game? do you approve or disapprove of anything?

that's a matter of opinion

what's your opinion on nutella?

[nutella]

ok, responding to sloonei's post in order

1) not sure what you mean about "downplaying pressure" in the first point. that's just how I felt about you at the time, don't overthink it
2) what? of all the posts in my iso to pick out, you pick a one-off acknowledgment of sprityo that didn't really mean anything. I'm not sure how you got the idea I was implying I suspected him or something, it was just a joke. Like yeah it was a little rib at the fact he hadn't produced much content yet but I think you're overthinking again.
3) I don't think they're lhf. I can see why you'd feel that way about MM, which was my weakest of those suspicions, but mata wasn't really. That was an original read and you better believe it. She's not "in the same category as sprityo" at all wtf that's absolute bull.
4) And how do you expect me to react to suspicion?
5) llama thing is dumb. I'm not scum and you can cross those buns and take them to the bakery.
6) I don't feel like I'm exaggerating your suspicion, that's how it feels to me. and sure I was townreading you until some others, mostly mac, put some pressure on you that I liked the sound of and I didn't AT ALL like how you reacted to that pressure. is there something wrong with my reads evolving due to developing thread content? you are pulling this out of your ass and you know it

[Matahari]

@Sloonei just to be clear, I didn’t go after MM for his post about whatever you said. He quoted a couple posts and he didn’t say anything about them. I wanted to know why he quoted them. He answered me, so that was all.

What did you think of his response?

I accepted it, wasn’t much to think about. He said someone had asked a question about Ultra, so he posted some quotes as an answer. That explained it.

[nutella]

I like that iso by Sloo.

why? let me know what you think of my response. almost all of his points were founded on absurd twistings of my words. I don't believe he believes what he's saying.

[nutella]

I don't suspect Ultra. Bottom line.

I suspect Matahari.

Eh?

Do you...object to me suspecting Matahari?

Or do you object to me not suspecting Ultra?

No I'm wondering why you brought up Matahari. I'm not objecting, just kind of perplexed and wanting elaboration.

Are you concerned for your scum buddy?

bro.... mata is my top suspect as you will find out when you catch up i guess

I don’t know why I’m your top suspect. Could you fill me in?

posts like this, actually. I explained more in a previous post, but I don't like the way you only seem to appear when someone suspects you and you ask "why why why" and you had one other post asking for clarification on something while catching up. I know you explained it's your style but your posts like this give me such strong vibes of aloofness/detachment from the thread or feigned ignorance or just like.... turning suspicions back as "why" questions without putting in any effort to contribute content that might actually be productive, like you're avoiding accountability but also avoiding doing anything else.

[Dragomir]

GTH is the perfect game for a supertown deepwolf type to call for. It makes them look busy and shows them where the juicy mislynches are.

What would be the more civilian thing to do is read the thread and find who is bad and burn them alive for it.

I like this post. Doesn't this rather make GTH counterproductive(or intuitive, whichever is grammatically correct)? This forum has got a lot of those supertown deepwolf types at least from my first impression.

[Sloonei]

ok, responding to sloonei's post in order

1) not sure what you mean about "downplaying pressure" in the first point. that's just how I felt about you at the time, don't overthink it
2) what? of all the posts in my iso to pick out, you pick a one-off acknowledgment of sprityo that didn't really mean anything. I'm not sure how you got the idea I was implying I suspected him or something, it was just a joke. Like yeah it was a little rib at the fact he hadn't produced much content yet but I think you're overthinking again.
3) I don't think they're lhf. I can see why you'd feel that way about MM, which was my weakest of those suspicions, but mata wasn't really. That was an original read and you better believe it. She's not "in the same category as sprityo" at all wtf that's absolute bull.
4) And how do you expect me to react to suspicion?
5) llama thing is dumb. I'm not scum and you can cross those buns and take them to the bakery.
6) I don't feel like I'm exaggerating your suspicion, that's how it feels to me. and sure I was townreading you until some others, mostly mac, put some pressure on you that I liked the sound of and I didn't AT ALL like how you reacted to that pressure. is there something wrong with my reads evolving due to developing thread content? you are pulling this out of your ass and you know it

The sprit post pinged because it didn't look like an attempt to get his attention. It looked like an attempt to establish basis for suspicion. I didn't pick it out, that's just how I felt about it.

I consider Mata to have been in the same category as sprit because there was basically nothing in either of their ISOs at the time. I had a look at Mata's posts, as you may recall, and I found some things to pick at but I did not think the 3 posts that were there could constitute somebody's strongest scum read in a game that's been this busy.

And I object to your claim that I am pulling this out of my ass or that my posts are absurd and twisting your words in any way. I don't think that is a fair assessment at all. I just explained each of my points against you. You have alleged that I am twisting your words. Where did I do that? You don't accuse me of doing it any particular instance, but you do accuse me of doing it generally.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei just to be clear, I didn’t go after MM for his post about whatever you said. He quoted a couple posts and he didn’t say anything about them. I wanted to know why he quoted them. He answered me, so that was all.

What did you think of his response?

I accepted it, wasn’t much to think about. He said someone had asked a question about Ultra, so he posted some quotes as an answer. That explained it.

Is he town or mafia?

[Matahari]

[mention]nutella[/mention] ok thank you. There is no real way for me to respond to that, except repeating. As far as contributing suspicions, I’m just not ready to make judgements on people yet. I will be, though. Just takes me a bit longer.

[Sloonei]

GTH is the perfect game for a supertown deepwolf type to call for. It makes them look busy and shows them where the juicy mislynches are.

What would be the more civilian thing to do is read the thread and find who is bad and burn them alive for it.

I like this post. Doesn't this rather make GTH counterproductive(or intuitive, whichever is grammatically correct)? This forum has got a lot of those supertown deepwolf types at least from my first impression.

GTH is an extremely useful exercise. We're going to do it at some point.

[Sloonei]

nutella ok thank you. There is no real way for me to respond to that, except repeating. As far as contributing suspicions, I’m just not ready to make judgements on people yet. I will be, though. Just takes me a bit longer.

I appreciate and respect that you would prefer not to make judgments until later. Play the game at your pace and share your reads when you have them.

But at the same time, we all need to try to read you, and we can't really do that if we don't know what's going on in your mind. Even if you're not ready to share reads yet, it would be helpful if you could continue to talk about what things are catching your attention and why.