I could be mistaken, but I cannot remember off-hand seeing any instance of a player actually committing a "dumbtell" on purpose to gain credit in a game. I think it looks pretty authentic.
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Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:08 pm
speedchuck, tell me about your vote.
I've suspected Gemma since late D1. Their playstyle was alien to me, so I didn't depend on that, but around the end of that day I considered Gemma to be a potential Ultra ally. I can't say I remember why.
I probably would have pursued this more D2 had I not been sick.
I love hypotheticals
So why did you move to Jack then in your hindsight bias
I thought I saw something there. I began pursuing it.
Ended up being a nothingburger.
If not for my hypothetical statement, these are two completely separate suspicions, yeah? Not sure how it relates.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:48 pm
I could be mistaken, but I cannot remember off-hand seeing any instance of a player actually committing a "dumbtell" on purpose to gain credit in a game. I think it looks pretty authentic.
Didn't LC fake slip about there being a 3p in some game a while back? That was a whole thing but I don't remember the details so it may not be comparable.
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
I meant Mac.
Were you against a Mac lynch before?
I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:08 pm
speedchuck, tell me about your vote.
I've suspected Gemma since late D1. Their playstyle was alien to me, so I didn't depend on that, but around the end of that day I considered Gemma to be a potential Ultra ally. I can't say I remember why.
I probably would have pursued this more D2 had I not been sick.
I love hypotheticals
So why did you move to Jack then in your hindsight bias
I thought I saw something there. I began pursuing it.
Ended up being a nothingburger.
If not for my hypothetical statement, these are two completely separate suspicions, yeah? Not sure how it relates.
Kinda? They relate a bit. There’s no way to prove you’d actually purse Gemma more Day 2, but you did move to Jack. It looks kinda like a grab or a “see! I suspected Gemma all along!” without actually really having proof of that. It’s just suspicious.
Did Gemma’s following to Jack make you think she was more town since she agreed with you? If not, then why did you think she was scummier?
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
I meant Mac.
Were you against a Mac lynch before?
I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.
You dont need to make an opinion itt to still have an opinion in your head.
So let me ask again, were you against a Mac lynch before?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:08 pm
speedchuck, tell me about your vote.
I've suspected Gemma since late D1. Their playstyle was alien to me, so I didn't depend on that, but around the end of that day I considered Gemma to be a potential Ultra ally. I can't say I remember why.
I probably would have pursued this more D2 had I not been sick.
I love hypotheticals
So why did you move to Jack then in your hindsight bias
I thought I saw something there. I began pursuing it.
Ended up being a nothingburger.
If not for my hypothetical statement, these are two completely separate suspicions, yeah? Not sure how it relates.
Kinda? They relate a bit. There’s no way to prove you’d actually purse Gemma more Day 2, but you did move to Jack. It looks kinda like a grab or a “see! I suspected Gemma all along!” without actually really having proof of that. It’s just suspicious.
Did Gemma’s following to Jack make you think she was more town since she agreed with you? If not, then why did you think she was scummier?
Actually, scratch this whole conversation. I was thinking of someone else being a potential pairing with Ultra.
I suspected Gemma separately.
See, this is what happens when you quit the game for two days while focusing on the other game. Completely mixed up the new names.
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
I meant Mac.
Were you against a Mac lynch before?
I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.
You dont need to make an opinion itt to still have an opinion in your head.
So let me ask again, were you against a Mac lynch before?
Oh wait, I thought you asked weren't you against it as if I had said so in the thread.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:08 pm
speedchuck, tell me about your vote.
I've suspected Gemma since late D1. Their playstyle was alien to me, so I didn't depend on that, but around the end of that day I considered Gemma to be a potential Ultra ally. I can't say I remember why.
I probably would have pursued this more D2 had I not been sick.
I love hypotheticals
So why did you move to Jack then in your hindsight bias
I thought I saw something there. I began pursuing it.
Ended up being a nothingburger.
If not for my hypothetical statement, these are two completely separate suspicions, yeah? Not sure how it relates.
Kinda? They relate a bit. There’s no way to prove you’d actually purse Gemma more Day 2, but you did move to Jack. It looks kinda like a grab or a “see! I suspected Gemma all along!” without actually really having proof of that. It’s just suspicious.
Did Gemma’s following to Jack make you think she was more town since she agreed with you? If not, then why did you think she was scummier?
Actually, scratch this whole conversation. I was thinking of someone else being a potential pairing with Ultra.
I suspected Gemma separately.
See, this is what happens when you quit the game for two days while focusing on the other game. Completely mixed up the new names.
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:46 pm
I could see his defense for Nova on D1 as being TMI since that defense was very hard and it was D1 not D2 where we see Ultra flipped scum and Nova did pioneer for his lynch(so Mac's defense and mine are different). Could get behind a wagon on him, but DDL though...
Who’s lynch? Nova’s? Weren’t you town reading him?
I meant Mac.
Were you against a Mac lynch before?
I don't recall making an opinion on lynching Mac before now.
You dont need to make an opinion itt to still have an opinion in your head.
So let me ask again, were you against a Mac lynch before?
Oh wait, I thought you asked weren't you against it as if I had said so in the thread.
Yeah, I was.
Ah I see. My bad I didnt think about the awkward phrasing.
Was there a reason why you were against it? Like anything he did that you were like “i dont really wanna lynch there right now”
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Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:24 pm
No. I'm pointing out a bunch of stuff that you have to ignore to have a scum read on you.
Your tone is one of absolute confidence, and that is unnerving.
Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with that?
I would not expect another civilian to exhibit that degree of confidence in my innocence, to such an extent that it becomes cause to throw shade at someone who is poking me.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:01 pm
NOPE Conclusion: I find some of this difficult to interpret. I can make a case that they're teammates, and that's enough for POE purposes. Gemma may be best judged at face value.
Well this is damning Jay. Absolutely damning. I have no choice but to vote for Gemma based on this damning summary.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:01 pm
NOPE Conclusion: I find some of this difficult to interpret. I can make a case that they're teammates, and that's enough for POE purposes. Gemma may be best judged at face value.
Well this is damning Jay. Absolutely damning. I have no choice but to vote for Gemma based on this damning summary.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:01 pm
NOPE Conclusion: I find some of this difficult to interpret. I can make a case that they're teammates, and that's enough for POE purposes. Gemma may be best judged at face value.
Well this is damning Jay. Absolutely damning. I have no choice but to vote for Gemma based on this damning summary.
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From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:29 pm
From what I recall, when Gemma was a leading wagon in D1 and right now, nobody aside from me tried to subvert it or at least break attention away from it(scum obviously didn't try to redirect the attention onto Ultra) ppl were hopping on that wagon IIRC and even right now nobody aside from me even defended Gemma. Scum is literally allowing all these votes on Gemma to be piling up. This is a bit unnerving and feels like another mislynch.
No day 1 people were townreading Gemma.
Even now DDL is throwing shade about it because apparently this site has a thing about lynching people with weird playstyles