Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:24 am
Numbers consciousness starting platform:
With 12 players to start and the setup closed, there are numerous potential alignment ratios:
A - 9 vs. 3
B - 9 vs. 2 vs./plus 1
C - 8 vs. 2 vs./plus 1 vs./plus 1
D - 8 vs. 3 vs./plus 1
There are other possibilities, but I think these are the four likely by a wide margin. Based on my own intuitions about balance (some of which I think Sloonei would share given his similar background), I'd rank them as follows by probability: B > A > C > D. This is a theme which lends itself nicely to independents, but that may not matter with the characters and alignments randomized (i.e. Chang isn't automatically a serial killer or something).
Either 9 vs. 3 or 8 vs. 2 allows two mislynches before a MyLo (assuming nightly kills of one civilian and not accounting for unknown indy variables). 9 vs. 2 allows 3 mislynches. For now I recommend a worst-case projection of 2 available mislyches. As such, POE work has to be quite expedient in this game to have a chance of working effectively. A pool of 4 or 5 is already necessary on Day 0, and that means the civilians need to make themselves visible. "Cards close to chest" and "exclusively roleplay in every post without regard for the hunt" are thus strategies which can lose the game on their own if employed irresponsibly -- that'll place people into POE pools by default.
Role abilities will likely matter at some point, but I refuse to wait for that. Everyone is vanilla. Find the bad guys, or find so many good guys that you don't need to.
You know what this reminds me of? That big role list I made in a World Asunder.
I was bad.
Mac and Epi both got crapped out for calling out a 3J mechanical breakdown post. DDL never did. So here, I'm crapping on you, DDL.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:08 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:07 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:06 amYou know what this reminds me of? That big role list I made in a World Asunder.
I was bad.
That's cool. If you're a civilian though make sure you pay attention to what I said whether you buy me or not. It's important.
It's interesting speculation but the conclusion isn't any different from what we are all supposed to be doing already: lynch mafia and not lynch town.
Philosophical nothingness. Admit it DDL, this was just the polite way of saying "Ah, shut up Jay."
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:15 am
I wanna join the "baseless unexplained day 0 alignment call" thing too.
"What is up, fellow civilians?" I farted.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:57 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:49 am
i like DF's contributions. his sentiments echo my own, apart from his Epi suspicions. he's only made 5 posts; i don't like the 3 votes on him right now. screams scapegoat to me.
the only thing i wasn't too hot on is the transition between focusing on epi and being able to read epi to voting for mac, someone whose intentions he claims are harder for him to get a feel on. but even so, he gave good rationale for voting for mac unlike some other people in the thread tbh. i've never played with him before, i'd like to see more of him and see what he can offer. i won't be voting for him today.
"I need to defend DF but let's post a beef so that I don't look too suspicious for it".
You could say this about anyone making an open-minded point about anything.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm
Conditioning Colin's status as best new player to not reading dunya as bad is a disgusting piece of manipulation.
It's not civilian thought proccess.
I don't understand why this is disgusting or uncivilian. Please expand.
It's manipulative. "You suspect me? You are not as good as this game as I thought you were". The goal of a sentence like this is not to figure things out, it's to disencourage the other person from doing that. This is villain talk.
Completely makes up a quote to represent
his interpretation of a conversation with dunya rather than talking about the actual post with other people (lol nah, he actually did what i expected after, but only to further pursue dunya. NEXT!)
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:45 pm
I'm getting a civ vibe from Mac. Though I've been wrong about that civ vibe before.
Fence sitting at its finest.
4 hours left on the clock judging by the time stamp. Anyone take a guess at what DDL did next? Nada.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:34 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:49 pm
i also don't understand why mac thinks cbob is hiding in my cleavage when i never stopped throwing shade and suspecting cbob. i've been questioning his tone all game.
and to answer your question, jay, i'm really unsure how far macdougall would go with the wiofm and bussing cbob so hard right now. but i distinctly remember how i felt the cbob post in his iso prior to the bandwagon on him, feeling very team-mate distancy by how soft his accusations were at the time and the fact he only did a case on cbob and then didn't even follow up on it or do anything with it, chasing df instead. felt fake.
This post.
This post would be bad in a vaccum but ultimately forgivable. The problem is what happens afterwards.
She wants people to know she is throwing shade at bob.
But this is her last mention of Bob until the last 30 seconds when she finally votes him. Between the two things, she spends the entire EoD trying to get anyone but Bob lynched. Anyone. Whatever it takes. She switches around, listens to other people when they talk about Mac and nova, but refuses to acknowledge bob's existance except for that small time interval where bob decides to antagonize her out of nowhere.
Never mind that mac's point is not an attack against dunya, it's just that dunya is being pocketed by Bob. This means she did not understand Bob's point. The fact she feels the need to defend against a possible w/w accusation that doesn't exist because she did not understand a post could suggest a baddie who is paranoid about not being associated to teammates.
The nerdy girl is up to no good. She appears adorable but I think I saw her cheating at the exam.
I have a whole thing in my ISO where I talk about why I don't like this post.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:30 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:17 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:12 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:10 pm
DDL fought the Mac's lynch and was consistent about it. I don't see why he would do that. I don't think it was tmi but rather genuine concern.
Come on Nova I don't need to spell out why a Mafia would defend a known civ do I? It's a fundamental tactic.
It's the way he went about it. He reads genuine as fuck, and I don't think he'd be that obvious so that's why I don't think it's tmi.
What way would he have gone about it if he was Mafia?
Beats me but it sure as hell doesn't look like this. What does he gain from doing these kind of posts? He wasn't actively defending you to actually gain anything if you ended up getting lynched. More like a confused dude
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:45 pm
I'm getting a civ vibe from Mac. Though I've been wrong about that civ vibe before.
You are underestimating or intentionally downplaying DDL's skills if you think he isn't capable of that.
DDL defended me all day but when push came to shove he didn't vote with me even though he had his own reservations towards Bob. There's an argument that he is the most suspect player in the game right now for that alone.
I wasn't even here at EoD.
I started chatting with family about politics. Then I remembed I might miss the EoD, but the chat was good and was also about how phones make people dumb (so I wasnt about to grab a phone in the middle of the chat lol).
I decided I was satisfied about my dunya vote. I though Mac's Bob case made sense but wasn't sold enough on it to put my vote. I also thought Mac felt civ but wasn't super confident on it either. So I made a "this mac lynch sux" post to attempt to throw some chaos into that EoD I didn't like, and left.
In which he explains why he never goes anywhere with his Day 1 post. It's underwhelming.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:52 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:50 am
I made my instructions clear. If you don’t have such a clear idea of who to kill then, hm, maybe you ought to reconsider the notion I should use it?
You are not in a position to negotiate. If you refuse to use your role, I'll assume you are lying about it and lynch you.
Forcing the vig to use their shot now because he's bad and probably wouldn't get shot himself if he was leading the charge?