Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention], just so you know you've already called upon emotion in your explanation of your behavior. So if you're a mafioso and you survive this, it will have been at least partially driven by an appeal to emotion.

[novaselinenever]

Nova seems to know what he's doing, I'll join him on his vote.

I'm about to switch. Join me again

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[speedchuck]

speedchuck, just so you know you've already called upon emotion in your explanation of your behavior. So if you're a mafioso and you survive this, it will have been at least partially driven by an appeal to emotion.

[speedchuck]

Nova seems to know what he's doing, I'll join him on his vote.

I'm about to switch. Join me again

Where ya going?

[novaselinenever]

Nova seems to know what he's doing, I'll join him on his vote.

I'm about to switch. Join me again

Where ya going?

I'm thinking Jack or Leetic

[speedchuck]

Nova seems to know what he's doing, I'll join him on his vote.

I'm about to switch. Join me again

Where ya going?

I'm thinking Jack or Leetic

Maybe

[novaselinenever]

Okay, so my vote. I don't think I have even mentioned nova this game. I have had a bad gut read on him but haven't said anything since it isn't concrete. I like to have reasons to back up my feelings.

Wait! Why is nova voting for himself? He has been really strange this game. If he wants to vote for himself, he can get one from me too. Thank you for giving me a concrete reason to vote you, nova.

linki, with Jay. That is exactly what I thought. Glad to know I read you right And I would say you don't care abotu Chuck's alignment because you know it won't hurt civs that much to get a mislynch Day 1. Even when civs win, they usually have a misllynch Day1.

there is a lot more linki...I'll read it in a minute.

You have 5mn.

As for me voting myself, it was a placeholder. Felt bad about voting Sabie when she's feeling unwell and I was going away so I didn't throw a vote on anyone else when I couldn't be present to push them.

There goes your concrete reason to vote me up, so I guess you won't be

[novaselinenever]

Okay, so my vote. I don't think I have even mentioned nova this game. I have had a bad gut read on him but haven't said anything since it isn't concrete. I like to have reasons to back up my feelings.

Wait! Why is nova voting for himself? He has been really strange this game. If he wants to vote for himself, he can get one from me too. Thank you for giving me a concrete reason to vote you, nova.

linki, with Jay. That is exactly what I thought. Glad to know I read you right And I would say you don't care abotu Chuck's alignment because you know it won't hurt civs that much to get a mislynch Day 1. Even when civs win, they usually have a misllynch Day1.

there is a lot more linki...I'll read it in a minute.

You know, I wanted to vote nova, but him voting for himself just sort of dumped water on any desire I had to vote for him. I still might do it anyways.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jackofhearts2005, what is your present read on speedchuck?

Unchanged. There are multiple decent reasons to scumread him and no reasons to townread him. Sloonei, Luna or both are likely his teammates.

I always want to post the scene from Stardust where Septimus goes “Has excessive begging or pleading ever persuaded me to spare the life of a traitor?” when I see ATE but sometimes it does move me. This one doesn’t. If I’m wrong, I sympathize because I know what it’s like for Jay to tunnel me and I know I can be an rear end when I’m convinced of a scum read. But the answer is to dust himself off and show us he’s town and he didn’t. Likely because he’s not.

[colonialbob]

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

Your post was scummy because it felt like the start of that train. I'm branching off JJJ's points about your speedchuck comments here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Nope. I only suspect Luna cause I suspect Speedchuck.

[nutella]

will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

Why are you focused on this now?

Yeah I don't like Rey's deal here. Does he know speed is innocent? Looking to set up the blame game on Jay to distract from the real targets? It's somewhat bold to try and set up a Jay mislynch, bit maybe the boldness is the point.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm in class now. I will have to be more of a watcher through EOD, but I'll still be here.

[speedchuck]

Actually Nova I wouldn't follow you on Leetic, I've never played with them before and would not lynch them D1 for that reason.

[novaselinenever]

Spoiler: show

Really?

Yep.

Filler post. And you said REY was trying too hard? Bugger off with that.

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

Oh right, this stuff.

voting nutella. The speed wagon looks scummy.

How so and why me?

It looks like Jay wants to lynch speedchuck, and you've just enthusiastically agreed with his opinions. Did you post any of your own reasons about why you're voting speed?

@Lunalee, what is your present read on speedchuck?

I really don't know. The lynch just looks opportunistic, but maybe I've missed something.

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

This is bad.

[Jackofhearts2005]

will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

Why are you focused on this now?

Yeah I don't like Rey's deal here. Does he know speed is innocent? Looking to set up the blame game on Jay to distract from the real targets? It's somewhat bold to try and set up a Jay mislynch, bit maybe the boldness is the point.

Agreed. I almost said something like “my read on you will change, though.”

Didn’t I ask you want you thought of Sloonei earlier?

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[novaselinenever]

Actually Nova I wouldn't follow you on Leetic, I've never played with them before and would not lynch them D1 for that reason.

Change of plans. Luna it is.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

Really?

Yep.

Filler post. And you said REY was trying too hard? Bugger off with that.

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

Oh right, this stuff.

voting nutella. The speed wagon looks scummy.

How so and why me?

It looks like Jay wants to lynch speedchuck, and you've just enthusiastically agreed with his opinions. Did you post any of your own reasons about why you're voting speed?

@Lunalee, what is your present read on speedchuck?

I really don't know. The lynch just looks opportunistic, but maybe I've missed something.

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

This is bad.

Is Luna teamed with Speed or setting up what to do when he’s mislynched? Cause I’m seeing potential for both. (I know Bob’s been saying it but I’ve been strongly leaning on probably teamed.)

[speedchuck]

Following

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

[Lunalee]

linki: dang speed, you broke the tie as soon as I made it.

[speedchuck]

Much as I like ties...

[reywaS]

I back luna on this. The votes on chuck seem suspicious and I am not even close to certain of chuck's alignment either. From the get-go, JJJ has been saying BS about this player and that player whether is be of their civviness or baddiness. He has been doing whatever he can just to get people to participate. I think that this his vote for chuck and hard go on chuck is the same thing. I don;t think JJJ CARES if chuck si good or bad. I think he just thinks that it will get people working to solve the game. I think JJJ could be indie.

Apart from the indie thing, you're not far off here. Most of the things that I say and do in any Day 0/1 period is intended to generate a productive environment wherein the civilians have a reasonable opportunity to develop reads (both now and into future phases). I am playing the motivator and facilitator roles I described in the linked thread there. I think most successful civilian teams need someone doing these things.

That isn't to say I don't care about speedchuck's alignment though. I do. It isn't imperative to lynch a mafioso on Day 1, and the sky won't be falling if there's a mislynch. A correct lynch is still obviously preferred though, and I am trying my best to promote suspicions that I think are most likely to yield that result.

Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

[Lunalee]

And from everybody else, remind me if Luna buddies as scum or if I’ve just mislynched her for buddying before when she was really town.

Cause her iso is almost like a peace rally while we’re at a debate/execution.

Oh hey, I just saw this. I'm done with peace rallies. Tell me why you shouldn't be lynched.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

*sprinkles the salts of suspicion upon the thread as would global 2017 meme sensation saltbae*

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

Yuck. How bout no?

Linki: Cause you’re being lynched.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[speedchuck]

I back luna on this. The votes on chuck seem suspicious and I am not even close to certain of chuck's alignment either. From the get-go, JJJ has been saying BS about this player and that player whether is be of their civviness or baddiness. He has been doing whatever he can just to get people to participate. I think that this his vote for chuck and hard go on chuck is the same thing. I don;t think JJJ CARES if chuck si good or bad. I think he just thinks that it will get people working to solve the game. I think JJJ could be indie.

Apart from the indie thing, you're not far off here. Most of the things that I say and do in any Day 0/1 period is intended to generate a productive environment wherein the civilians have a reasonable opportunity to develop reads (both now and into future phases). I am playing the motivator and facilitator roles I described in the linked thread there. I think most successful civilian teams need someone doing these things.

That isn't to say I don't care about speedchuck's alignment though. I do. It isn't imperative to lynch a mafioso on Day 1, and the sky won't be falling if there's a mislynch. A correct lynch is still obviously preferred though, and I am trying my best to promote suspicions that I think are most likely to yield that result.

Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

I haven't seen it personally.

He pretended to do it when under pressure in Mountain Mafia and Phenon Origins? Maybe? But it wasn't like this.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

I've certainly tried with mixed results. It's hard, my man.

[novaselinenever]

Spoiler: show

Yep.

Filler post. And you said REY was trying too hard? Bugger off with that.

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

Oh right, this stuff.

voting nutella. The speed wagon looks scummy.

How so and why me?

It looks like Jay wants to lynch speedchuck, and you've just enthusiastically agreed with his opinions. Did you post any of your own reasons about why you're voting speed?

@Lunalee, what is your present read on speedchuck?

I really don't know. The lynch just looks opportunistic, but maybe I've missed something.

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

This is bad.

Is Luna teamed with Speed or setting up what to do when he’s mislynched? Cause I’m seeing potential for both. (I know Bob’s been saying it but I’ve been strongly leaning on probably teamed.)

I'm leaning towards the latter. I see her softly positioning to reap from a lynch, rather than trying to sway it. Baddie Luna, in my experience, would act ignorant about the accusations against teammates yet intrigued and understanding of them, so that she can eventually jump in if it concretize.

[leetic]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

Yeah, I don't like the looks of this. [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine because why do you want to set up a tie this late in the day. A no lynch won't help town right now, and seems like an almost OMGUS way to handle pressure.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

*scribbles notes in classroom notebook about immediacy of wagon shift*

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

Oh right, this stuff.

voting nutella. The speed wagon looks scummy.

How so and why me?

It looks like Jay wants to lynch speedchuck, and you've just enthusiastically agreed with his opinions. Did you post any of your own reasons about why you're voting speed?

@Lunalee, what is your present read on speedchuck?

I really don't know. The lynch just looks opportunistic, but maybe I've missed something.

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

This is bad.

Is Luna teamed with Speed or setting up what to do when he’s mislynched? Cause I’m seeing potential for both. (I know Bob’s been saying it but I’ve been strongly leaning on probably teamed.)

I'm leaning towards the latter. I see her softly positioning to reap from a lynch, rather than trying to sway it. Baddie Luna, in my experience, would act ignorant about the accusations against teammates yet intrigued and understanding of them, so that she can eventually jump in if it concretize.

Then why does she come in and go nuts and make herself look bad?

[Lunalee]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

Yuck. How bout no?

Linki: Cause you’re being lynched.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

I don't even seriously play until after day 1. If you all want to lynch me based on my day 1 posts, that's just lame.

[Lunalee]

*scribbles notes in classroom notebook about immediacy of wagon shift*

I believe nova began the shift, and it looks like he has "friends" on board with it.

[novaselinenever]

Spoiler: show

Yes, I want you to generate content. That post said nothing, had no content.

I am accusing you of pretending to generate content. Was that unclear?

Well they're my thoughts so far, take them or leave them. I'm accusing you of fabricating a suspicion.

Oh right, this stuff.

voting nutella. The speed wagon looks scummy.

How so and why me?

It looks like Jay wants to lynch speedchuck, and you've just enthusiastically agreed with his opinions. Did you post any of your own reasons about why you're voting speed?

@Lunalee, what is your present read on speedchuck?

I really don't know. The lynch just looks opportunistic, but maybe I've missed something.

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

"Hey guys this speedchuck lynch feels like a dogpile" which feels like the preamble to "ok I've read over the case and think I'm good with this lynch" and then "oh noes I should have stayed strong definitely there was a mafia pushing on speed"

you're predicting what I'm going to do next and calling it scummy?

This is bad.

Is Luna teamed with Speed or setting up what to do when he’s mislynched? Cause I’m seeing potential for both. (I know Bob’s been saying it but I’ve been strongly leaning on probably teamed.)

I'm leaning towards the latter. I see her softly positioning to reap from a lynch, rather than trying to sway it. Baddie Luna, in my experience, would act ignorant about the accusations against teammates yet intrigued and understanding of them, so that she can eventually jump in if it concretize.

Then why does she come in and go nuts and make herself look bad?

I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't see her go nuts, rather softly voicing some concerns about his lynch. She avoided any further talk about it past calling it "opportunistic". JJJ prodded her, and she blanked.

[novaselinenever]

*scribbles notes in classroom notebook about immediacy of wagon shift*

I believe nova began the shift, and it looks like he has "friends" on board with it.

Lol.

[reywaS]

Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

I've certainly tried with mixed results. It's hard, my man.

yes, i can imagine which is why I asked.

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

Yeah, I don't like the looks of this. [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine because why do you want to set up a tie this late in the day. A no lynch won't help town right now, and seems like an almost OMGUS way to handle pressure.

Tied lynches go to rng, I believe.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Luna goes from pure defense and maybe some shade from the sidelines to diving into the thread, declaring peace over, causing a tie on me, and saying you’re bad too.

What did she think was going to happen?

[novaselinenever]

*scribbles notes in classroom notebook about immediacy of wagon shift*

That's a myth

[reywaS]

will he become a suspect for you on day 2 or will you assume he was just wrong and let him keep his civvie civvington badge for another day?

Why are you focused on this now?

Yeah I don't like Rey's deal here. Does he know speed is innocent? Looking to set up the blame game on Jay to distract from the real targets? It's somewhat bold to try and set up a Jay mislynch, bit maybe the boldness is the point.

you know what is hilarious? I said to myself earlier, "If speedchuck does flip civ I wonder who will be the one to suggest that I KNEW speedchuck is good because I'm bad?" Somehow it doesn't surprise me that it was you, Fredo.

[speedchuck]

Fredo?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Fredo?

Nutella’s real name is Fredo.

[colonialbob]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

lol, okay.
[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine
Let's make a three-way tie and hash this out, shall we?

Yuck. How bout no?

Linki: Cause you’re being lynched.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

I don't even seriously play until after day 1. If you all want to lynch me based on my day 1 posts, that's just lame.

What's the alternative here, lynch randomly?

[Lunalee]

Luna goes from pure defense and maybe some shade from the sidelines to diving into the thread, declaring peace over, causing a tie on me, and saying you’re bad too.

What did she think was going to happen?

Idk, the threat of getting lynched is pretty motivating. Worst case, I still get lynched.

[reywaS]

Fredo?

[novaselinenever]

Luna goes from pure defense and maybe some shade from the sidelines to diving into the thread, declaring peace over, causing a tie on me, and saying you’re bad too.

What did she think was going to happen?

Beats me. I don't care much for motivations behind these kind of reactions 'cause everyone wants to live civvies and baddies alike, and people reacts in different ways. The tone is relevant though, and I'm not getting genuine vibes from her at the moment tbh. Might be tainted by her other stuff.

Are you unable to reconcile her reaction to the votes with a baddie?

[leetic]

Luna goes from pure defense and maybe some shade from the sidelines to diving into the thread, declaring peace over, causing a tie on me, and saying you’re bad too.

What did she think was going to happen?

Idk, the threat of getting lynched is pretty motivating. Worst case, I still get lynched.

Can you give me a reason for why you decided to tie the votes?