Vanilla Mafia - [MELTED]

[Epignosis]

hm actually it was "ice cube tray." maybe you get frozen into cubes but that doesn't sound too bad really

You get sent off to college with the new graduate.

[Lunalee]

after a nolynch mafia will probably go for a vastly townread players
we have this game pretty locked down

so we still shouldnt nolynch

no-lynch is the safer option though. I'm not confident about who to lynch.

[Lunalee]

I'm voting Lunalee. Called me good. Called me bad because I called G-Man good and refused to vote for him (leaves out the part where I called sprityo a would-lynch candidate and woulda coulda dida lynch him?).

I trust and doubt everyone at different times when I'm town because I don't know who is good. If you decide to push for my lynch then we will lose this.

[Lunalee]

I like you though- a lot of people would tell you to "dial it back" and "consider all angles" and blah blah blah.

You are sticking to your guns, and that's going to serve you well.

You're voting me right now, so maybe that's not the best timing for that particular piece of advice.

[Epignosis]

I'm voting Lunalee. Called me good. Called me bad because I called G-Man good and refused to vote for him (leaves out the part where I called sprityo a would-lynch candidate and woulda coulda dida lynch him?).

I trust and doubt everyone at different times when I'm town because I don't know who is good. If you decide to push for my lynch then we will lose this.

I still have not had a chance to read back properly. I'm hoping to get around to that today.

[MafiaMenace]

epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

[MafiaMenace]

we should take the risk here
dont be cowards

[MafiaMenace]

we lynch scum today and then we nolynch tomorrow

[MafiaMenace]

high risk high reward

[MafiaMenace]

actually no its still mylo tomorrow if we hang correctly
we need a bigger risk

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine
luna if you really are town you arent going to nolynch here

lynching is towns best option

[Epignosis]

epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

In either scenario, you have rey as a firm mafioso.

What makes you so sure?

[MafiaMenace]

epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

In either scenario, you have rey as a firm mafioso.

What makes you so sure?

i made a case already

[MafiaMenace]

everyone else has given me a reason to townread them
i only have scumread shit from him

[nutella]

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

[MafiaMenace]

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow? :ponder:

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

[MafiaMenace]

to not make myself choose between them

[sabie12]

I enjoy the the good place reference

Fork yeah.

holy forking shirtballs! See the new episode? I'm always like how can they keep going and they keep coming up with new ideas. Has there been a good place mafia? I feel like that show was made for mafia

[nutella]

Rereading luna and this jumped out at me:

Has anyone done an analysis on Sprityo's interactions? That might be helpful.

Oh wait, just found Sloonei's G-man/Sprityo interaction post:

Spoiler: show

G-man and sprityo:

G, what has that particular quintet on your naughty list?

Listing those five with more clarity this time:

-MafiaMenace & Spacedaisy haven’t had time in 72 hours to participate much. I get real life and all, but in a game this small, we can’t afford the no-show routine for very long at all. Neutral -1 for now.

-WaywardSon has 8 posts of fluff that don’t even attempt to engage the actual game element. Uncomfortable.

-JJJ warned us that he wouldn’t be around much but, even taking that into consideration, his content is meh. One cage-rattling line against sprityo and a weak, ivory-toweresque assessment of Eloh followed by a vote. The post and vote on Eloh looks contrived to me. As if he manufactured a Jay-esque enough of a reason to cast a vote far ahead enough of the deadline. Artificial vanilla?

-Nutella for reasons already stated. She went hard for low-hanging fruit in both me and now Eloh.

Indirect defense via shade at Jay. Not a great look. More of the same here.

And he repeats the process on nutella here

After a bunch more indirect mentions, G finally says something to sprityo here:

Looking forward to that vote analysis you promised in post #257 sprityo. Until then, your ISO is a tad underwhelming. I don’t think I’ve played many games with you yet. Your tone surprised me.

This is a nothing comment. The lightest of prods. This post doesn't even need to exist. There's an awful taste in my mouth. The opposite of vanilla.

Sprit is "neutral" in a tiered reads list.

When G-man poked us all with questions, all he had to say to sprit was "You made bro?" Again, this doesn't need to exist.

0 search results on page 2 of G-man's ISO.

I see more evidence for a partnership here than against.

This actually does make G-man look sort of bad.

This is pretty opportunistic and potentially in a bad way. The initial question about sprityo interactions would be an easy way for a bad Luna to hunt for easy targets who look bad, while she knows she is safe because she just replaced in for an inactive. And boom she finds something that looks bad for a townie and latches onto it.

Other posts of hers still seem town to me though so I am still waffling on her, just thought this was worth considering.

[MafiaMenace]

Rereading luna and this jumped out at me:

Has anyone done an analysis on Sprityo's interactions? That might be helpful.

Oh wait, just found Sloonei's G-man/Sprityo interaction post:

Spoiler: show

G-man and sprityo:

G, what has that particular quintet on your naughty list?

Listing those five with more clarity this time:

-MafiaMenace & Spacedaisy haven’t had time in 72 hours to participate much. I get real life and all, but in a game this small, we can’t afford the no-show routine for very long at all. Neutral -1 for now.

-WaywardSon has 8 posts of fluff that don’t even attempt to engage the actual game element. Uncomfortable.

-JJJ warned us that he wouldn’t be around much but, even taking that into consideration, his content is meh. One cage-rattling line against sprityo and a weak, ivory-toweresque assessment of Eloh followed by a vote. The post and vote on Eloh looks contrived to me. As if he manufactured a Jay-esque enough of a reason to cast a vote far ahead enough of the deadline. Artificial vanilla?

-Nutella for reasons already stated. She went hard for low-hanging fruit in both me and now Eloh.

Indirect defense via shade at Jay. Not a great look. More of the same here.

And he repeats the process on nutella here

After a bunch more indirect mentions, G finally says something to sprityo here:

Looking forward to that vote analysis you promised in post #257 sprityo. Until then, your ISO is a tad underwhelming. I don’t think I’ve played many games with you yet. Your tone surprised me.

This is a nothing comment. The lightest of prods. This post doesn't even need to exist. There's an awful taste in my mouth. The opposite of vanilla.

Sprit is "neutral" in a tiered reads list. :ponder:

When G-man poked us all with questions, all he had to say to sprit was "You made bro?" Again, this doesn't need to exist.

0 search results on page 2 of G-man's ISO.

I see more evidence for a partnership here than against.

This actually does make G-man look sort of bad.

This is pretty opportunistic and potentially in a bad way. The initial question about sprityo interactions would be an easy way for a bad Luna to hunt for easy targets who look bad, while she knows she is safe because she just replaced in for an inactive. And boom she finds something that looks bad for a townie and latches onto it.

Other posts of hers still seem town to me though so I am still waffling on her, just thought this was worth considering.

the thing is here nutella
she literally never saw it
she thought me and nova were on gman because of his bad voting or smth

[Lunalee]

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

[MafiaMenace]

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow? :ponder:

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

[MafiaMenace]

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine

[ColinIsCool]

I enjoy the the good place reference

Fork yeah.

holy forking shirtballs! See the new episode? I'm always like how can they keep going and they keep coming up with new ideas. Has there been a good place mafia? I feel like that show was made for mafia

I’d play it. Hopefully light on spoilers though.

[Epignosis]

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

Why would nobody be willing to vote for nova?

I just looked through sprityo's posts, and only found this:

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

this is the funniest thing i have read all day

That's the only exchange the two had.

[Lunalee]

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

Why would nobody be willing to vote for nova?

I just looked through sprityo's posts, and only found this:

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

this is the funniest thing i have read all day

That's the only exchange the two had.

I'm also open for voting Nova.

[MafiaMenace]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

[Epignosis]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

[MafiaMenace]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

[Epignosis]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

[MafiaMenace]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

so you didnt read my entire solving spam worth nearly a full page
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 67#p511967

[Epignosis]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

so you didnt read my entire solving spam worth nearly a full page
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 67#p511967

I read it. I didn't commit it to memory.

[MafiaMenace]

so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

so you didnt read my entire solving spam worth nearly a full page
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 67#p511967

I read it. I didn't commit it to memory.

ah

[Epignosis]

I see where your head is, but I don't see how it's an "excellent" case that nova isn't bad. I'd say they're decent points.

[MafiaMenace]

I see where your head is, but I don't see how it's an "excellent" case that nova isn't bad. I'd say they're decent points.

what nova pointed out about spirit, before shit really hit the fan, outweighs 99% of the bad

[Epignosis]

Let me ask you a semi-related question:

When you are bad, how do you pave the way to victory? What's your plan?

[MafiaMenace]

Let me ask you a semi-related question:

When you are bad, how do you pave the way to victory? What's your plan?

for one thats self meta which is retarded
two that depends, im not always met with the same exact players, who use the same strategy

[MafiaMenace]

Let me ask you a semi-related question:

When you are bad, how do you pave the way to victory? What's your plan?

for one thats self meta which is retarded
two that depends, im not always met with the same exact players, who use the same strategy

if anything i just try and find a way of playing that counters how the town is playing
also i dont bus unless its an absolute necessity

[MafiaMenace]

nova im currently valuing your opinion to almost the highest degree rn
what do you have to say

[Epignosis]

I'm trying to get a sense of how you approach things when you are bad, not necessarily because I think you are bad, but because I want to sort out how you analyze others. I can't do that because I have no frame of reference.

[MafiaMenace]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

[Epignosis]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

[MafiaMenace]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

[Epignosis]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

[MafiaMenace]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

[Epignosis]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

I really hope you stick around here. I say that with all sincerity.

[MafiaMenace]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

I really hope you stick around here. I say that with all sincerity.

?
thanks but whered that come from

[Epignosis]

No, I don't find nova to be a compelling lynch either.

so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

Why would nobody be willing to vote for nova?

I just looked through sprityo's posts, and only found this:

Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

this is the funniest thing i have read all day

That's the only exchange the two had.

I'm also open for voting Nova.

But we got this here when I merely asked a question, accompanied by no additional commentary or reasoning.

[Epignosis]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

I really hope you stick around here. I say that with all sincerity.

?
thanks but whered that come from

It means I think you have raw talent as a young mafia player, and that I hope you hang around here with us and hone your skills. I mean that. This is a great place.

[nutella]

Luna seems pretty eager yeah huh

[MafiaMenace]

ill be in and out of this site
out of many ive tried i think ive had the most fun here