SPACE FORCE [END]

[Lunalee]

oh hey, people are active again!

[Lunalee]

dunya and Luna, thoughts?

No, not really. I don't see why it matters when speed checked the lynch before EOD.

[Dyslexicon]

dunya and Luna, thoughts?

No, not really. I don't see why it matters when speed checked the lynch before EOD.

It matters if he accounts for having thoughts and feelings and that not matching up with what happened.

Maybe I got too excited though. It doesn't really prove anything certain, but there's still something about the original post where he describes the lynch events that I don't like.

[Dyslexicon]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

speedchuck??? More like DEADchuck.

He was among the first spacemen to resist the complacent attitude sweeping over the post-Thanksgiving force. Irritated with the napping and seemingly infinite leftover pie, he rallied the troops in his unit back into action. The space Australians surely weren't laying around waiting to be defeated; they were plotting and planning and engaging in all the numerous dastardly deeds associated with their kind. He lifted his favorite phaser high in the air and led his people in the Spaceman's Creed (which, incidentally, also seemed like a rip-off of the Air Force version).

I am an American Spaceman.
I am an astronaut.
I have answered my nation’s satellite transmission.

I am an American Spaceman.
My mission is to float, fight, and win.
I am faithful to a day-old heritage.
A “tradition” of honor?
A “legacy” of valor? I guess?

I am an American Spaceman.
Guardian of governmental surveillance.
My nation’s death ray laser beam.
Its necessary taxpayer expense.
I defend my country with my poop bag.

I am an American Spaceman.
Gradual. Muscular. Atrophy.
I will never leave a Spaceman afloat.
I will never falter.

And I will not fail!

Invigorated and ready for anything, he stepped into the airlock chamber. Then, before he could strap himself up properly, someone closed the interior door and gassed him right out into open space.

Spoiler: show

speedchuck was killed. He was:

Spoiler: show

Vanilla spaceman

Day 5 is underway and will decide the winner. You have 48 hours to vote in the poll.

[Lunalee]

NO way. That's so not fair.

[Lunalee]

Well I'm ready to lynch Dunya now.

[speedchuck]

Love the picture. Good luck town!

[Lunalee]

Exhibit A:

I'm gonna take a break for now.

speedchuck
Lunalee
Dyslexicon
Spacedaisy
dunya
MacDougall

[Lunalee]

Exhibit B:

Hot Take: None of the Quin voters are scum.

That leaves:
Speed
TH
Dunya
Sabie
Nova

Nice job Quin voters.

[Lunalee]

Exhibit C:

THE SINS OF DUNYA

Heavy very ignorant mechanics post.

Spoiler: show

2 scum, 7 townies.

Ignoring what I think is a doctor, we have 2 mislynches available before LYLO. In order to give us an extra day, the doctor would have to protect successfully twice. That is unlikely. Therefore, if the doctor DOES protect someone, it might be helpful for them to claim and name their target at endgame, or if things are going badly.

If the cop gets a guilty check, go ahead and claim obviously. Getting half the mafia is great.

These claims might be more contested if we don't get roleflips from nightkills.

I like the setup, it's pretty standard.

Response from Dunya:

oh poop, im seeing town speed there. so now i have sabie and speed locked town. feeling daisy is town too. 4/9 town on day 0 isn't a bad deal.

Later post:

The cop is very important. Your first "contributive" post was almost lecturing people how to use their PRs. It didn't sit well with me. I think everyone can decide for themselves how and when to reveal. Game mechanic talk is filler. And that was pretty much your most significant contribution besides 1 post shading daisy and despite being around a lot more than most of the other players here.

It "didn't" sit well with her. Past tense, referring to the post. This is an outright lie.

According to this post:

Same mechanics post

Rereading this.

Trying not to tinfoil.

Game mechanic talk and strategy is the easiest way to seem town without flinging poop. It was day 0, but still. Textbook stuff even tho I sorta agree on concept

Dunya was moving her opinion arduously and slowly over time, but the "didn't sit well with me" post still pinged me. Like, that's literally your reason for initially townreading me. Why is it bad now? And, as a matter of fact, the setup doesn't even have a cop/doc (which we know now). Which means this post:

You're oozing TMI. You were the first instigator that a cop and doctor exist.

Is completely bunk.

Moving on.

i'm not being arrogant btw, i just mean when i'm town and under suspicion, i'll fight for my life and never give up till i convince the rest of town. especially when i'm vanilla which is my fav role to play #ballstothewall style cos i got less to lose by being crazy.

If we all made our minds up at first read, what's the point of mafia? Anyway I think I've had enough of this tonight. Good night.

Are you accusing speed of a town-slip? What if he has one of these roles he "knows so much about"? Though if that is so, his first game mechanic posts wouldn't make much sense.

No. I was accusing him of knowing there was a godfather. A godfather indicates a cop. He didn't even see the survailence part of that role and called it a doctor and called the second one a possible cop. Yeah I don't think speed would make this big a mistake as scum.

Also I don't really wanna discuss game mechanics anymore.

First of all, after saying she doesn't give up as scum, she has a very defeated tone to these posts. (Yes, I feel like a butt pointing this out again. It's the game, I'm playing the game. Calls it as I sees it.)
On top of that, she pulls off of me for my complete ignorance regarding the setup, assuming I'd understand the setup better if scum. Just another flip flop reason on me that is never addressed later when she starts scumreading me again.

Continuing.

Town reading Quin and dunya.

dunya, why are you town reading TH?

I agree with dunya’s assessment of no lynch right now. I’m concerned about Luna’s joining in to toss a vote on TH for his suggestion though.

TH has 17 posts, second highest poster itt. he's coming after me, the highest poster itt and someone who is pretty vocal and probably not the easiest to lynch (again, not arrogance, but it would have been world's easier to suggest an inactive lynch and go after nova for example and considering the recent trend of disdain for inactives in general, i wouldn't be surprised if he garnered majority support there). he suggested a No Lynch. he suggested the cop claims on Day 0 and be protected by the doctor. he questioned a lot of my opinions, and provided a genuine-like reason to his suspicions of me.

i just can't see a scum TH right now. if anything, he reminds me of Ancient Greece TH atm.

What happened to this on day 2? I just now stumbled across this post. I'm as guilty as anyone of not really going over TH a lot before the lynch, but I never had a townread there.

Moving on.

....and he votes for the complete inactive who could very well be one of our town PRs.

....and he votes for the complete inactive who could very well be one of our town PRs.

Actually, you know what. This post looks friggin awful.

"He votes for the complete inactive" is fine. It's something I baited you into saying. It's a good accusation because it means I'm not putting in the work. I don't care about the roof. I'm taking advantage of someone being away from the Syndicate to absolve my responsibility and get a vote on the table, so I can look like I care.
You could say all that about me, and you could have all the smilies.

But this: "who could very well be one of our town PRs."
WHAT THE HECK IS THAT.
What purpose does it serve?
I could be one of our town PRs. Dizzy could be one of our town PRs. ANYONE could. So why include that in the accusation? There's nothing behind it except some word association, a little trick to get people to conflate my vote with a vote for lynching a power role. It adds nothing substantial to the suspicion, since literally every vote on the board could be on a power role.

It's simply your way of saying "Wow speedchuck is soooooo terrible."

And it looks awful.

I voted Nova to see what Dunya would do, since she was already voting me. Didn't like the reaction. There's a lot more discussion surrounding this, highly recommended reading.

Also

I don't want to link half a dozen posts, so I'll just say this and let anyone who wants to verify it go and do that.
Her read progression on me is flip-flippy mondo bad.
Her read progression on TH, to my knowledge, DNE.
Her read progression on Quin D1 is especially bad.

AND

Post I made earlier:

Dunya is still in the pool. The only interaction I remember right now between her and Quin was a sort of distancing. Quin: "Yeah, Dunya and Luna did a bad in poopooing the no lynch, but Luna is muuuuch worse. But I'm still side-eying Dunya. We're totally not partners guys, I suspect her."

Quin did a distancing dance with Dunya over something that didn't matter much, mid-day 1. It was Quin's most memorable contribution that day, in my opinion.

Dunya's final post on D1 (I think):

I'd be ok with Dizzy, Luna or Quin being lynched today ftr. In that order, I suppose.

Lots of posts in here like this.

I will only be angry if it's Mac at this point. Give Hogwarts a break and help us solve this game Mac.

This post pinged me. What even. Mac had been subbed in for an incredibly short amount of time, and in that time, not many posts were made by anyone. Felt like fake town fire.

END

That's all the sins I can put together. Some could say she looked bad for leading the push on TH, but we didn't do anything at the time. Some could read bad into the way she avoided my questions about power roles. I'm not gonna bother with that barrel of wine.

If you add anything to this list, please, read the progression of her thoughts on myself, Quin, and Turnip Head. It's just off. Maybe I'll make some posts about that later.

=======================================

There are reasons to townread Dunya as well. She's put herself out there (obviously), and has provided content at least as much as she's asked for it. Dizzy, I think, was the one who noted that scum Dunya asks a lot of questions to up that post count.

Anyway.

I'll try to do Dizzy if I get the time, since Dunya asked.

[Lunalee]

Dunya knew that if she had any chance of winning, Speedchuck had to die.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If any non-players would like to take part in the spectator chat, PM me.

[Lunalee]

If any non-players would like to take part in the spectator chat, PM me.

LOL, that chat is probably more lit than this game is right now.

[dunya]

Dunya knew that if she had any chance of winning, Speedchuck had to die.

Oh dear.

[dunya]

Well I'm ready to lynch Dunya now.

I bet you are

The funny thing is, if it was Dizzy they would have nkd me instead...so you really misplayed this one but there wasn't much you could do either way. You definitely needed the good luck but your strategy of leaving me till end game and letting dizzy side by your immediate suspicion of me is a ballsy risk but it won't work.

[dunya]

Dunya knew that if she had any chance of winning, Speedchuck had to die.

Tell me why? Genuinely curious to see scum Luna's reasons.

[dunya]

I'm laughing so hard at the OLD exhibits. I'm laughing even harder at the fact Luna called me and speed t/t early on after we went head to head and I'm laughing the hardest at the fact Luna is using speeds posts as a reason to lynch me.

Indeed, the "Interesting" tell has worked.

[dunya]

Dizzy would have killed dunya n4. speed was his greatest ally in LyLo.

dunya wouldn't even have been in this situation because the kill choices would have been vastly different.

Luna didn't have a chance if she killed me because speed was town reading dizzy and spent the last day posing questions her way. Remind me when the last time speed questioned something I did was... I was in his poe based on numbers and that's fair. But he was clearly leaning Luna. If she killed dizzy, she worried speed would have figured it out. "You really think I'm bad?" post Luna made to speed yesterday doesn't seem as innocent in retrospect.

It's Luna.

[Dyslexicon]

Great.

[Dyslexicon]

dunya, why are you suddenly so sure it's Luna now?

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy would have killed dunya n4. speed was his greatest ally in LyLo.

dunya wouldn't even have been in this situation because the kill choices would have been vastly different.

Luna didn't have a chance if she killed me because speed was town reading dizzy and spent the last day posing questions her way. Remind me when the last time speed questioned something I did was... I was in his poe based on numbers and that's fair. But he was clearly leaning Luna. If she killed dizzy, she worried speed would have figured it out. "You really think I'm bad?" post Luna made to speed yesterday doesn't seem as innocent in retrospect.

It's Luna.

Ok. From my perspective though, you could also have killed Speed and pin in on Luna. You could also have killed me though.

Can you talk a little bit about the kill choices and how they would've been different for you?

[Dyslexicon]

Ugh. This is exactly what I didn't want.

[Dyslexicon]

I can't be around now, and have a party thing tonight. But I will reread this whole fucking thread if I have to sit up all night to do it. Also hope we'll be around at the same time some.

[Lunalee]

I'm laughing so much. But seriously though, It's tough being in the final three. I'm pretty sure I'm getting mislynched today, because I'm so bad at defending myself and I'm playing with two really good mafia players. I'm just hoping I put my vote on the right choice, so that if we lose it's not completely my fault.

[Lunalee]

Ugh. This is exactly what I didn't want.

join the party!

[Lunalee]

I'm laughing so hard at the OLD exhibits. I'm laughing even harder at the fact Luna called me and speed t/t early on after we went head to head and I'm laughing the hardest at the fact Luna is using speeds posts as a reason to lynch me.

Indeed, the "Interesting" tell has worked.

Of course I thought you were both town early on, but new evidence has shown otherwise. That being you're still around and a major suspect.
the "interesting" tell is just you grasping at straws now. This is what happened:

Oh hey, sabie12 this is cool. Dyslexicon town-reads dunya and scum-reads you, then does "catch up" stuff and comes back and scum-reads you while town-reading dunya.

Dyslexicon what was the basis for your first read list? And what drastically changed your views of dunya and sabie?

Those were just random reads I made up before even reading the game. Tried to make them at odds with what I skimmed on that page, but otherwise just random. Didn't get much out of it other than dunya removing her sabie12

I thought I had made this clear, but maybe not. Cindy Kate culture is a bit different than PerC.

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

I thought Dizzy's random reads was a very odd thing to do, and I said so. No idea why that makes me scum.

[Lunalee]

Well I'm ready to lynch Dunya now.

I bet you are

The funny thing is, if it was Dizzy they would have nkd me instead...so you really misplayed this one but there wasn't much you could do either way. You definitely needed the good luck but your strategy of leaving me till end game and letting dizzy side by your immediate suspicion of me is a ballsy risk but it won't work.

You're incriminating yourself Dunya. I know it's not me. I'm between you and Dizzy, and you just told me that if it were Dizzy then you wouldn't be here.

[dunya]

yeah I'm having fun too. I won't be angry if I lose to either Luna or Dizzy tbh. I'd rather win, but I'm glad to have been part of this despite some hiccups along the way. Thanks for playing, guys.

[dunya]

I'm laughing so hard at the OLD exhibits. I'm laughing even harder at the fact Luna called me and speed t/t early on after we went head to head and I'm laughing the hardest at the fact Luna is using speeds posts as a reason to lynch me.

Indeed, the "Interesting" tell has worked.

Of course I thought you were both town early on, but new evidence has shown otherwise. That being you're still around and a major suspect.
the "interesting" tell is just you grasping at straws now. This is what happened:

Oh hey, sabie12 this is cool. Dyslexicon town-reads dunya and scum-reads you, then does "catch up" stuff and comes back and scum-reads you while town-reading dunya.

Dyslexicon what was the basis for your first read list? And what drastically changed your views of dunya and sabie?

Those were just random reads I made up before even reading the game. Tried to make them at odds with what I skimmed on that page, but otherwise just random. Didn't get much out of it other than dunya removing her sabie12

I thought I had made this clear, but maybe not. Cindy Kate culture is a bit different than PerC.

Okay, that's an interesting strategy.

I thought Dizzy's random reads was a very odd thing to do, and I said so. No idea why that makes me scum.

how is what you italicized in any way interesting? what does interesting mean? why did it interest you? how did it add anything to your opinion of dizzy or how did indicating it's interesting add to the discussion in any way? it makes it seem like you asked just to have something to ask about and when they answered, you ended the discussion with "interesting" rather than probing a little further since you yourself said it was a "very odd thing to do", so to be satisfied with his answer and simply saying it was "interesting" makes you seem like you never really cared for the answer in the first place. does that make sense?

also, what is the "new evidence" you mentioned that made you reconsider me, because I'm not seeing it from you yet?

[Lunalee]

[mention]dunya[/mention] New evidence since day 1: You're still alive. I know there is a 50% chance that you're scum.

Reason I only replied with "interesting" to Dizzy's made up read list was because her answer was not what I was expecting. I didn't know people even did made up reads before diving into a game. Seemed pointless to me, but I don't want to state too harshly what's a good idea in mafia or not, so I just let it go.

[Lunalee]

side note: If dizzy is actually scum, I would expect her to not engage too much. We have a vote on each other right now, dunya, and it would be super easy for her to just pick one of us for no good reason and roll with it.

[Lunalee]

Dizzy would have killed dunya n4. speed was his greatest ally in LyLo.

dunya wouldn't even have been in this situation because the kill choices would have been vastly different.

Luna didn't have a chance if she killed me because speed was town reading dizzy and spent the last day posing questions her way. Remind me when the last time speed questioned something I did was... I was in his poe based on numbers and that's fair. But he was clearly leaning Luna. If she killed dizzy, she worried speed would have figured it out. "You really think I'm bad?" post Luna made to speed yesterday doesn't seem as innocent in retrospect.

It's Luna.

Ok. From my perspective though, you could also have killed Speed and pin in on Luna. You could also have killed me though.

Can you talk a little bit about the kill choices and how they would've been different for you?

[mention]dunya[/mention] seconded

[dunya]

Dizzy would have killed dunya n4. speed was his greatest ally in LyLo.

dunya wouldn't even have been in this situation because the kill choices would have been vastly different.

Luna didn't have a chance if she killed me because speed was town reading dizzy and spent the last day posing questions her way. Remind me when the last time speed questioned something I did was... I was in his poe based on numbers and that's fair. But he was clearly leaning Luna. If she killed dizzy, she worried speed would have figured it out. "You really think I'm bad?" post Luna made to speed yesterday doesn't seem as innocent in retrospect.

It's Luna.

Ok. From my perspective though, you could also have killed Speed and pin in on Luna. You could also have killed me though.

Can you talk a little bit about the kill choices and how they would've been different for you?

With differing kills, we would probably have had different lynches and D5 wouldn't look like this, so speed, Luna and you wouldn't have been here for me to choose from on N4, but let's assume everything else remained the same and only sabie and SD had been nkilled with one failed kill just like it has been: I would have killed Dizzy easily.

Killing speed would have been silly after Dizzy has spent the majority of the game going after me, so I wouldn't risk having Dizzy and Luna in LyLo with Luna being rather disengaged from the game and easier to influence on me being bad considering she and dizzy were both on the Quin lynch and as she self admitted: that's sorta given her a free town pass to ride till end game. Killing Luna would have been silly considering speed had a strong town read on Dizzy. You can call this wifom, but anyone who knows me knows I'm a straightforward scum player. I don't play mind games and try to do something that other people will think I would have done the opposite of just so I don't look bad.

[dunya]

@dunya New evidence since day 1: You're still alive. I know there is a 50% chance that you're scum.

Reason I only replied with "interesting" to Dizzy's made up read list was because her answer was not what I was expecting. I didn't know people even did made up reads before diving into a game. Seemed pointless to me, but I don't want to state too harshly what's a good idea in mafia or not, so I just let it go.

calling it an "interesting strategy" makes it seem far more positive than negative to me, and it doesn't at all add up to "Seemed pointless to me, but I don't want to state too harshly what's a good idea in mafia or not".

[Lunalee]

@dunya New evidence since day 1: You're still alive. I know there is a 50% chance that you're scum.

Reason I only replied with "interesting" to Dizzy's made up read list was because her answer was not what I was expecting. I didn't know people even did made up reads before diving into a game. Seemed pointless to me, but I don't want to state too harshly what's a good idea in mafia or not, so I just let it go.

calling it an "interesting strategy" makes it seem far more positive than negative to me, and it doesn't at all add up to "Seemed pointless to me, but I don't want to state too harshly what's a good idea in mafia or not".

I mean I try to be a nice person most of the time.

[Lunalee]

Oh, also shrug emoji tell.

[dunya]

side note: If dizzy is actually scum, I would expect her to not engage too much. We have a vote on each other right now, dunya, and it would be super easy for her to just pick one of us for no good reason and roll with it.

that's funny advice because as soon as the kill was revealed, you went full blast on me without even questioning whether it could be dizzy or not. now you're giving it a 50/50 chance for me being scum. you literally said you were READY to lynch me; that is pretty self assured talk for a townie who is just faced with LyLo.

[dunya]

I don't think dunya's a good lynch option, and I'm okay with staying on TH since he thinks it's a good idea to lynch a very town-like dunya on day 1.

Luna: what has changed about the very town-like dunya you give credit to here?

[dunya]

Oh, also shrug emoji tell.

my emoji tell for the duration of one game was: - it was my first scum game here (FE), and you can ask Epignosis for more details cos he is the one who pointed it out. I never use them in any game anymore regardless of alignment cos I don't wanna be scum read for something so stupid lmao.

[dunya]

does dizzy wifom the hell out of us? that is the question to ask. kill off the only person who town read him undoubtedly since there was motive for both luna and dunya (lol) to kill speed. that is the question.

[dunya]

I read Dizzy's IDO in AssClass. Unfortunately, they were killed N1 so I only got a Day 0, 1 and a little Night 1 talk from them.

Short version: I like playing town and am best at gathering information and just move around and move the thread. Sometimes I have good reads, but am better finding town than scum. I dislike playing scum and eventually start feeling like I'm obligated to post, but am good at "making sense" enough for people to not look at me. Something like that. If you really wonder, have Jimmey give you a real rundown. But I haven't played that many games on this site.

The thing I noticed the most about AssClass was how often they asked questions and prodded people. They were really game solving. I don't feel like Dizzy in this game has been actively trying to find town in the way the describe about their town game, but there has been quite a lot of similarities, sometimes exact phrases from Ass Class were used here. It was kinda creepy.

I know I said I'd check their scum game 10000 times but I'm busy (travelling, different country, seminar, University, blueprints for new job, friends, movies, lots of stuff) and lazy and never got around to it. So I'll check Phenom then Currents too.

[Lunalee]

I don't think dunya's a good lynch option, and I'm okay with staying on TH since he thinks it's a good idea to lynch a very town-like dunya on day 1.

Luna: what has changed about the very town-like dunya you give credit to here?

Well that was day 1. A lot has changed (I can elaborate later if you really want me to). There's no way I'm keeping a town read on anyone for that long and especially in these circumstances. If I did you should lynch me for it.

[sprityo]

[Lunalee]

Thanks [mention]sprityo[/mention] !

[Lunalee]

BOTH Dizzy and Dunya claim they weren't around on night 1 to see sabie claim cop. So either one of them sent in their kill early and got lucky by hitting the cop before she claimed in thread, or speedchuck is scum and targeted sabie after she claimed. Because he definitely saw the cop claim, and commented on it during the night

Spoiler: show

i don't know if i have the energy to even defend myself. so i'm not going to waste time doing that, and when i have time will address certain points i feel were misrepresented or mean instead and talk more about mac/dizzy/speed. if ya'll don't see town dunya, then maybe i'm gonna lead by TH's example and say this will be good for my new meta of not posting 800 times a day.

but pay attention: i wasn't here during sabie's flip. i didn't get back to the game till the next day. you're all assuming as the last mafia i would have -chosen- to nk sabie who was everyone's second suspect, why?

but pay attention: i wasn't here during sabie's flip. i didn't get back to the game till the next day. you're all assuming as the last mafia i would have -chosen- to nk sabie who was everyone's second suspect, why?

Ok. But now YOU pay attention. I wasn't around ALL of N1. I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in the game already that I wouldn't be. I was playing in a yearly championship that went over the weekend, and since I've won that many times it's kind of a big deal for me. That was all I did that weekend, I was not thinking about any mafia stuff, and I didn't see sabie claimed beforI caught up with the thread again. However, I wasn't that surprised that sabie was PT really, cause she said she had gotten a good role (or something like that) so I already thought she could be. Same could go for you. Also, I checked, and you said you would try to check in before EoD, and sabie did not claim that late our time. This hinges on you not just checking the thread. I'm more interested in why you're using this as a defense and completely ignore that I wasn't around N1 either.

Look, I'm not sure you are scum. But you are not making any sense to me in your posts directed at me. You're picking and choosing and holding your suspicion before the actual events in the thread. You also don't seem interested in figuring out who I am as a player. You're picking at town tells of mine and calling them suspicious, you ignore other town reads on me (from players that have actually played with me), and you did ask for a scum game of mine, but I don't see you using that or other town games of mine as a reference if you're really interested in figuring me out. (Maybe you have, but then you haven't said anything about it). This is how I view it. I can be a pretty omgusy player to a fault, but I find that on this particular site I'm more often targeted by scum (probably because my playstyle is a bit more "random" than the norm here.)

My poe is you, Mac and then I'd probably lose to a scum Speed at this very moment.

So which one of you got super lucky with the Sabie kill without even seeing that they had cop-claimed?

[Lunalee]

This is a very good point. [mention]dunya[/mention] why did you suspect Quin, and why did you not vote Quin even though you suspected him? What about Dizzy made her look like a better lynch option? Sorry for all the questions.

Hi hi hi! I haven't been able to keep up with the game this weekend (because Scrabble <3) I kind of wanted to sheep Spacey, cause she's as sure town as you get imo, same with Luna really. My initial thoughts after the flip was that it's dunya or Mova/Mac. Dunya had quin as a suspect, but voted me even when quin was an option. Having a teammate as a suspect, but not pushing it is very much a common thing in my experience. At the same time though, I'm thinking that the fact that the Quin lynch won through might indicate that the other teammate was inactive, so that would be Nova. I don't know about Turnip, I don't feel i get much of a read from him. Didn't feel that I did the last game we played either (just went with what other players were saying), but he was town that game. I'm thinking he would be the type of player that is good at appearing similar as both town and scum (?) I did feel reasonably good about Speed. Don't remember if he had interaction with Quin. Sabie was the one the player not voting Quin that I felt the best about, and I also thought she was PT so.

I guess these are my thoughts. Ugh, should probably just read though, and not sleep, cause what is life.

[Lunalee]

LOL, just noticed "No Lynch" is a poll option. Why is this an option? So that one of us would die tonight and the remaining two can settle the game with a duel?

[dunya]

i would pay good money to see the spectator chat now and how many people have their money on me being scum.

i'll take bets, people.

[dunya]

BOTH Dizzy and Dunya claim they weren't around on night 1 to see sabie claim cop. So either one of them sent in their kill early and got lucky by hitting the cop before she claimed in thread, or speedchuck is scum and targeted sabie after she claimed. Because he definitely saw the cop claim, and commented on it during the night

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i don't know if i have the energy to even defend myself. so i'm not going to waste time doing that, and when i have time will address certain points i feel were misrepresented or mean instead and talk more about mac/dizzy/speed. if ya'll don't see town dunya, then maybe i'm gonna lead by TH's example and say this will be good for my new meta of not posting 800 times a day.

but pay attention: i wasn't here during sabie's flip. i didn't get back to the game till the next day. you're all assuming as the last mafia i would have -chosen- to nk sabie who was everyone's second suspect, why?

but pay attention: i wasn't here during sabie's flip. i didn't get back to the game till the next day. you're all assuming as the last mafia i would have -chosen- to nk sabie who was everyone's second suspect, why?

Ok. But now YOU pay attention. I wasn't around ALL of N1. I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in the game already that I wouldn't be. I was playing in a yearly championship that went over the weekend, and since I've won that many times it's kind of a big deal for me. That was all I did that weekend, I was not thinking about any mafia stuff, and I didn't see sabie claimed beforI caught up with the thread again. However, I wasn't that surprised that sabie was PT really, cause she said she had gotten a good role (or something like that) so I already thought she could be. Same could go for you. Also, I checked, and you said you would try to check in before EoD, and sabie did not claim that late our time. This hinges on you not just checking the thread. I'm more interested in why you're using this as a defense and completely ignore that I wasn't around N1 either.

Look, I'm not sure you are scum. But you are not making any sense to me in your posts directed at me. You're picking and choosing and holding your suspicion before the actual events in the thread. You also don't seem interested in figuring out who I am as a player. You're picking at town tells of mine and calling them suspicious, you ignore other town reads on me (from players that have actually played with me), and you did ask for a scum game of mine, but I don't see you using that or other town games of mine as a reference if you're really interested in figuring me out. (Maybe you have, but then you haven't said anything about it). This is how I view it. I can be a pretty omgusy player to a fault, but I find that on this particular site I'm more often targeted by scum (probably because my playstyle is a bit more "random" than the norm here.)

My poe is you, Mac and then I'd probably lose to a scum Speed at this very moment.

So which one of you got super lucky with the Sabie kill without even seeing that they had cop-claimed?

well, dizzy did say they knew sabie was a PR even before she flipped from saying she has a "good role" so if it's between me and dizzy and you're not bad, luna, I promise you a million times over it's dizzy.