Fantasy Movie Thread - In-Season Thread

#51

Mowgli Trailer didn't "WOW" me. Though I'm sure Cate's going to get me a big ol' slice of pie.

#52

Spreadsheet updated.

#53

#54

2 days until Solo hits. Should be a big influx of cash. Not expecting it to be a good movie but in fairness it's obviously not trying to be a good movie.

#55

Yes I think it looks pretty terrible.

#56

So this weekend brings Solo, of course, but also How To Talk To Girls At Parties, and a late addition, Elle Fanning will now also be represented this weekend by Mary Shelley, which I hadn't noticed earlier.

#57

Gotta watch that IMDB page fam.

#58

Aw fuck now they're doing Boba Fett.

I think I hate Star Wars you guys.

#59

Leave it to Rico to pick a Star Wars film and have it bomb.

#60

Oops

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... as-1114854

#61

Woof.

#62

$103 Million over a 4-day weekend. Not the number I was expecting honestly, even given my distaste for it.

#63

I do not understand how this is grim - it's probably on track to $700-800m, not at all bad. If it was a Marvel movie or a Pixar movie this would hardly be called grim.

For my part though, I thought Solo was a massive improvement over Rogue One. It actually made me believe in stand alone movies, and I want another one based on the ending. However, I'm still more interested in time periods far removed from the existing saga.

#64

Golden wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 10:46 pm I do not understand how this is grim - it's probably on track to $700-800m, not at all bad. If it was a Marvel movie or a Pixar movie this would hardly be called grim.

For my part though, I thought Solo was a massive improvement over Rogue One. It actually made me believe in stand alone movies, and I want another one based on the ending. However, I'm still more interested in time periods far removed from the existing saga.

I think its a matter of comparing Solo's performance to its predecessors (Rogue One being the least successful at ~150mil I think, maybe ~130?)

Its not "bad" but like, any X-hundred million dollars is still money.

Anyway, box office as a stand alone metric isn't super great, its just that 100 million over a holiday weekend for a Star Wars film is under-performing. IDK.

Like I said, I wasn't gonna watch it regardless but I was definitely thinking 140+.

#65

I mean, you aren’t the one writing the sensationalist headlines! But I have to say if it’s underperforming, in terms of this draft I’m all for that!

#66

DH is just jelly he didn't pick it. I can smell the bitterness from here.

#67

Biggest problem is budgetary. They had Solo about 75% done and then decided they hated it and fired the director. Ron Howard was brought in and the film was essentially started over... so when your budget ends up over $300 million and you made $100 In 4 days that's bad.

Compare that to Deadpool 2 with a $110 million budget and it made that back in 3 days.

#68

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 9:11 am DH is just jelly he didn't pick it. I can smell the bitterness from here.

Pfffff, I'll take my not-going-to-bomb Disney film over the definitely-was-going-to-bomb Disney film any day of the week and twice on Memorial Day.

#69

I'll get that spreadsheet updated tonight

#70

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 10:25 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 9:11 am DH is just jelly he didn't pick it. I can smell the bitterness from here.
Pfffff, I'll take my not-going-to-bomb Disney film over the definitely-was-going-to-bomb Disney film any day of the week and twice on Memorial Day.

I will however, gladly take Woody's cool 25 mil.

#71

I thought Solo was close to awful, and I’d consider it a valid candidate for being the worst Star Wars movie.

#72

Spreadsheet is updated...

#73

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 3:35 pm I thought Solo was close to awful, and I’d consider it a valid candidate for being the worst Star Wars movie.

Spoiler: show

#74

Like literally fan reactions to Star Wars make zero sense to me. Rogue One is the worst of the four and the Last Jedi the best, both my a mile, in my opinion. Both in terms of artistic merit and Star Wars merit.

#75

Boom baby, comfortable third place.

#76

Golden wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:15 am Like literally fan reactions to Star Wars make zero sense to me. Rogue One is the worst of the four and the Last Jedi the best, both my a mile, in my opinion. Both in terms of artistic merit and Star Wars merit.

I'd rank the Disney four as follows: The Last Jedi > The Force Awakens > Rogue One > Solo

#77

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:17 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:15 am Like literally fan reactions to Star Wars make zero sense to me. Rogue One is the worst of the four and the Last Jedi the best, both my a mile, in my opinion. Both in terms of artistic merit and Star Wars merit.
I'd rank the Disney four as follows: The Last Jedi > The Force Awakens > Rogue One > Solo

The correct answer is TLJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TFA>RO>SOLO

#78

Some items... imdb had the release date wrong for Isabella Rossellini's Silent Life, so that has been removed from the spreadsheet.

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] you picked Paradox as a film. It had a listed release date of May 23rd, but it appears that it actually went to Netflix. I'm not sure of how to handle the rules for this, but as far as I'm concerned, no theatrical release means you don't need to hang onto the film, so it's your call, want to dump it and replace it? Or wait to see if it has a theatrical release in the future?

James Franco's Future World was supposed to open last weekend, but so far I can't find any box office, so stay tuned on that.

The Tale with Laura Dern had a TV premiere, not a theatrical premiere this week, so it has been removed from the spreadsheet, this concerns [mention]insertnamehere[/mention] who owns Laura Dern's contracts.

The only new film for us this weekend is Adrift.

#79

Cool beans.

#80

timmer wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 7:52 pm Some items... imdb had the release date wrong for Isabella Rossellini's Silent Life, so that has been removed from the spreadsheet.

@M Plus 7 you picked Paradox as a film. It had a listed release date of May 23rd, but it appears that it actually went to Netflix. I'm not sure of how to handle the rules for this, but as far as I'm concerned, no theatrical release means you don't need to hang onto the film, so it's your call, want to dump it and replace it? Or wait to see if it has a theatrical release in the future?

James Franco's Future World was supposed to open last weekend, but so far I can't find any box office, so stay tuned on that.

The Tale with Laura Dern had a TV premiere, not a theatrical premiere this week, so it has been removed from the spreadsheet, this concerns @insertnamehere who owns Laura Dern's contracts.

The only new film for us this weekend is Adrift.

I guess I can wait for now, right? I'll probably dump it in due time if there's no news though.

#81

Spreadsheet updated... no change in the standings this week...

Big openers up next are Ocean's 8 and Hereditary...

#82

105mil just from actors ain't too bad.

#83

#84

Widows looks OK
Suspiria looks eh...

#85

Not gonna lie, I'm quite hyped for Suspiria. Have any of you seen the original?

#86

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:43 pm Not gonna lie, I'm quite hyped for Suspiria. Have any of you seen the original?

I haven't, and admittedly its not in my wheelhouse at all so I'm pretty meh on the whole thing. I'm sure for who its meant for, it'll be a fun experience. Just like I'm sure Comic Book movies, crime/mob movies, etc which I love people aren't hot on. Hell, Hook is my favorite movie probably of all time.

#87

I'm honestly DYING in anticipation of Suspiria...

#88

Who doesn’t like hook!

#89

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:40 am Who doesn’t like hook!

Monsters.

#90

Buncha new trailers today and I gotta admit the Spiderverse one looks real good.

#91

(Pretty sure I hit a home run with my man Bradley Cooper, on this one. Best Actor here we come!)

#92

looks really good tbh. movies like that are award magnets (Walk the Line) so I can see it scoring. But I don't think Cooper will win the Oscar. If Phoenix didn't win.......no one will win.

#93

Gaga might though

I don’t see Cooper winning either.

#94

Winning, no. Nominated? Almost guaranteed especially since he directed it and that will be a plus.

#95

Guys, in terms of the rules... first, it was posted at the very start. Second, it was mentioned after that at least once. I can't be held responsible if some of you missed it. Third, it's a key rule! It's strategy. If someone has a stinker of a film opening early, and is expected to have an awards contender open late, you have to ask yourself... do I grab them early, and suck up the box office of the stinker film, knowing that if their late-opening awards hopeful film gets bumped to 2019, I'm screwed? Or do I let them sit there, available, and wait for the stinker film to open and disappear from contention? That way, I can grab them after the turd opens and now if their awards film gets bumped, I'm not out anything, but... if I wait too long to grab them, someone else may take them, and I lose out...

It's a great risk/reward rule!

And of COURSE we have to be able to grab actors and films late in the year... it's free agency. It would not make any sense, if a film that right now NO ONE has on their radar, suddenly gets big at a festival... for us to say sorry, its sudden best actor hopeful is simply not a part of our league because 2 weeks ago, he was in some indie film...

So hopefully we can move on and continue the league as is. I'll just let Rico's team remain as a ghost.

#96

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:22 pm Guys, in terms of the rules... first, it was posted at the very start. Second, it was mentioned after that at least once. I can't be held responsible if some of you missed it. Third, it's a key rule! It's strategy. If someone has a stinker of a film opening early, and is expected to have an awards contender open late, you have to ask yourself... do I grab them early, and suck up the box office of the stinker film, knowing that if their late-opening awards hopeful film gets bumped to 2019, I'm screwed? Or do I let them sit there, available, and wait for the stinker film to open and disappear from contention? That way, I can grab them after the turd opens and now if their awards film gets bumped, I'm not out anything, but... if I wait too long to grab them, someone else may take them, and I lose out...

It's a great risk/reward rule!

And of COURSE we have to be able to grab actors and films late in the year... it's free agency. It would not make any sense, if a film that right now NO ONE has on their radar, suddenly gets big at a festival... for us to say sorry, its sudden best actor hopeful is simply not a part of our league because 2 weeks ago, he was in some indie film...

So hopefully we can move on and continue the league as is. I'll just let Rico's team remain as a ghost.

Yikes Timmer this complaint is so 10 hours ago, man we've moved on, catch up. Gosh.

#97

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:10 pm Winning, no. Nominated? Almost guaranteed especially since he directed it and that will be a plus.

Very surprised the movie fell to me off free agency

#98

I wasnt expecting Lady Gaga to pull the audience tbh. She's no Reece Witherspoon.

After seeing the trailer I kind of regret it tho.

#99

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:20 am I wasnt expecting Lady Gaga to pull the audience tbh. She's no Reece Witherspoon.

After seeing the trailer I kind of regret it tho.

It got a load of buzz at CinemaCon so I had to take a shot on it. TBH I probably wont see it myself, but it looks like it'll be a useful awards round grab.

#100

Now that Cate Blanchett is locked for oceans 8 I can mention that where'd you go Bernadette has been pulled and moved to march 2019...