"Why did you vote for Jack?" -- Kylemii editionKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
Hey Jack quick question, about how does accusing someone of being one of the Good Boyz poke them?
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:25 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:24 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
Hey Jack quick question, about how does accusing someone of being one of the Good Boyz poke them?
Can I answer?
I wanna hear from Jack :0
Kyle was on Jack's case from Day 0. I don't think there was a direct continuation of this line of suspicion through to Day 2, but it's easy to see evidence that there was some close attention being paid to Jack from the very beginning from Kyle.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:17 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:13 pm
tie strategy nearly caught 2/3 of the scumteam in pirate game and only failed because we didn't follow through with it/followed through on the wrong people
You out to nearly catch some scum?
disrespectful.
Who is bad, Kyle? Lots of content today.
honestly today's content has given me more good vibes than bad ones
Epignosis still looks bad to me, but his only contributions today have been defending against LC. I was hoping to talk them into ignoring each other for a few hours so we could get some isolated reads from his behaviors but he logged off.
nutella's confidence that LC v Epi 'wasn't getting us anywhere' still bugs me, and her expressing familiarity with such situations without providing much more insight into the topic seems problematic
Sloonei and LC I'm reading town, I also feel pretty okay about Quin
Responds to Jack's prod for reads by saying he has "more good vibes than bad" on Day 1. He doesn't make a specific mention of Jack in the reads he lists after, but Jack was his interrogator here and Kyle responded positively and without hostility, so I get more of a friendly vibe than a suspicious one here. But this is Day 1, not Day 2.
Jack and Kyle began an extended dialogue about the effectiveness of
ties near the end of Day 1 with the recently-ended Pirates game as their reference. Kyle eventually started to feel the discussion was
"exhausting and pointless". Looking over their arguments, it's more a debate about mafia theory than anything. They both have points they want to make about vote analysis and they're making them. I'm inclined to read it as two townies going back and forth. Kyle's read on Jack in this game is unclear at this time. But he starts Day 2 off with this vague post:
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:54 am
I want to look at Jack today, I agree with K2 that something seems off about him.
I feel a little better about epignosis every time he says literally anything other than a defense against LC's thing which.... fuck, idk. I think maybe he's just weird. I think someone else pointed out though that without epigs bad responses the case is basically built out of mundane garbage
"Something seems off" is the most hollow accusation in the mafia lexicon. It's not always a sign of badness; sometimes we just have trouble pinpointing the source of fishiness. But kyle's going to need to substantiate this read between here and the time he places his vote for me to buy it.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:58 am
Like if the idea is that baddies are vultures around Epi so Epi is good, why are the three of you not interested in catching those baddies?
referring to people who were okay with lynching epig as vultures probably prevented an epig lynch for better or worse.
Kind of contests a point made by Jack but not really in an accusatory way.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:09 pm
My motivation was that Kyle just asked me to weigh in on stuff I had already weighed in on. So I was like "no."
Who was I gonna save?
I have a problem with this. You and I were talking about the usefulness of using close lynches as a valid scum hunting tactic in appropriate contexts.
I asked you why the discussion was so important to you that you felt the need to respond so passionately about it and you never responded. The moment I invited you to discuss the options for the current lynch you decided you were done for the night and left.
Alright, this is Grade A Beef. You do you, Kyle.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:09 pm
My motivation was that Kyle just asked me to weigh in on stuff I had already weighed in on. So I was like "no."
Who was I gonna save?
I have a problem with this. You and I were talking about the usefulness of using close lynches as a valid scum hunting tactic in appropriate contexts.
I asked you why the discussion was so important to you that you felt the need to respond so passionately about it and you never responded. The moment I invited you to discuss the options for the current lynch you decided you were done for the night and left.
Didn't I? And hadn't I already stated in extreme detail my feelings on LC, Epi and Nutella?
ISO me.
I literally just did. My point still stands.
"I've already said my opinions once so I refuse to think about them more or talk about them again when someone asks" is not a pro town attitude
especially when the person making the request is one of your town reads
Continuation of the same beef. Jack feels he's offered his thoughts. Kyle wants to go into more detail.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:34 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:29 pm
@Kylemii
It's nothing personal. I worked 30 hours in the last 3 days and just clocked out. My posts are alternating between the most recent thing aimed at me or that I find super interesting when I refresh the page and my catch-up from 5 pages back. I promise to answer you tomorrow or maybe even tonight. :cheers:
Alright.
Jack's job is stressful and he promises to share things later.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:01 am
I did an ISO on Sloonei and I guess..... Idk I wouldn't be opposed to his lynch today but Jack still bugs me for a lot of reasons so I'm putting my vote there
Kyle tosses half-hearted support for lynching me into the thread before settling on Jack because he's not fulfilled his promise to share more reads yet. Jack would show up about an hour later to see himself tied with me for the lead in the poll.
I don't hate this vote from kyle, but I don't love it either. I can buy that he had reason to be wary of Jack, but I'm not sure I agree that Jack was the best option, and the way he tacked suspicion onto me near the end also could be read as covering all his bases. I'm not sure I'd agree with that notion, but it's a possibility.
I've had kyle as a town read and this analysis does only a tiny bit to move the needle in the opposite direction on him. Still town, but with a little more caution than before.