Game of Champions: East Facility (Night 2)

[Master Radishes]

If dizzy is a wolf my dog called it.

[Master Radishes]

Dizzy you said me and rondo are scum so why vote me alongside him? He's the only other one on my wagon. You think he's bussing me already?

[WindwardAway]

The silly premise is that -- the argument that does exist for the idea of pressuring a zero poster is not that they are lurking the thread but that they have teammates in mafia chat who would alert them to their pressure and remind them to post. I do think that this is a silly premise that almost never comes up in reality. However, you did not even consider that and only assumed Lime would have to discover the vote on his own. Hence it could be that you know there's no chance Lime would have a wolf chat to notify him


Yes it's a stretch but occasionally minor perspective issues like this are legit

i think we've all randed mafia with afk teammates enough to know that pinging them in scumchat and go "yo you're getting run up" doesn't do anything. lol

this post reminded me of a thought I had

I feel like the low posters of night 0 are more likely to be wolf, like 10 posts under/or fluffing the entire time.

I just remember when I was in Battle of the Bands mafia as mafia, and this game was sort of nightless, but while town was posting content then, i was like "haha no im not gonna do that" like the entire game, and i feel like the same can be said for people participating in night 0 of this game, probably to a lesser extent but still.

I had that thought earlier, too, but then I dismissed it because in a game with 30 players I kinda doubt the entire scumteam would go afk

[WindwardAway]

Also a small part of me thinks wolf!Alison would try better than just let herself get wagoned D1 and do jackshit about it? It feels pretty low effort for her to just come up and say nearly nothing to being wagoned or bringing anything else to the table. Maybe if she was a wolf she would try to take a bit of the leadership?

Though I don't know how to read Alison at all and maybe this is just her breaking her wolf meta or something.

She was definitely biting back when I first voted her and she wasn't a wagon other than my vote there
So I wouldn't say she hasn't fought back at all but idk when the current wagon on her formed

[Cape90]

[VOTE: LimeCoke] aubergine

hmm
anyways i think this is a decent vote then, I am liking WWA more, thanks for your cooperation

Like LimeCoke isn't hitting any of his town notes and I don't think game ending jesters are very likely just from a "that's bad game design" perspective, not to mention it would be confusing from the split thread POV I think LOL

[Michelle]

Lime Coke
3
18%
Voters: Lemonfairy, Guillotine, Creature

Ftr Brad has only 2 votes because Guillo and Creature are the same slot


Brad how long do you intend to ignore me? @Lime Coke

[Cape90]

have to go and clean my shower and sink now

yay me

[WindwardAway]

Welp
Now you all know that I've been pushing Nutella for absolutely no reason at all
Lol me

What are your reads for this thread?

Still think Alison could be scum tbh
Nutella's posts make sense now with the context that I was tunnelling her for no good reason
I read Guillo's slot as mostly towny with a couple of strange posts, I haven't seen enough from Creature yet to be confident in that
I think you're town
I have a nullread on Rondo
I townread Cape
I'm slightly suspicious of Sabi but I kinda think they're right on Lime Coke
And I think Lime Coke is playing like frozen scum
I don't have reads on Wilgy, DM or Dizzy
I asked Lemon a question on her readlist and I haven't seen a reply about it yet, but I mightve missed it
when I said earlier that I had 4 scumreads who knew who they were, I fucked up and mixed up the player list and secret santa list, half of them went into each thread (falcon and sig were the two others, but in fairness I only had sig on that list because of the impression I got from two of their posts on N0)

Thanks!
The players you don't have a read on, did you ever play with them? (Rondo, DM, Dizzy, Wilgy)

Yes
Actually I think I only briefly played with DM, it was in Severance and we were in opposite threads until I died and ended up in their thread, and I had a post limit of 5 so it's not like I was able to interact much with anyone lol.
Also Master Radishes, never played with them before.

[Michelle]

I have to sleep.

I will vote and idk if I can wake up for Eod

[WindwardAway]

Sigh..

Inb4 Brad is a jester and he just wants to win...

Yawn this is a big possibility

If he is a jester this game will serve as a good example as to why jesters are inherently unfun for every other player

I think I am the only person I know who plays like a jester only when I'm not a jester lol
I kinda don't think Brad is a jester, else idk how it would get balanced in the other thread. Two jesters in a game seems like a nightmare.

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy you said me and rondo are scum so why vote me alongside him? He's the only other one on my wagon. You think he's bussing me already?

Sure

Rondo’s votes are cheap

Didn’t know he voted you until I voted actually

[Michelle]

Mr. R may have a slow start as town so I am not ready to give a read there. But he is in the not voting toDay pile

[WindwardAway]

The Wind wagon is weird

Why is it a wagon?

Because I'm dumb and I can't read
Also because I was incredibly aggro earlier

[Creature]

This game feels like half the players are playing and the other half is doing ???

[WindwardAway]

Forgot one other I wanted to look back into.

WindwardAway - Not entirely sure what to make of WWA's night 0 content looking back, there are a few things here and there, a lot of talking about themselves, trying to wrap my head around what I think of this night 0 post #444night0. I kinda wish Caitlin was here just so i could make heads or tails of WWA's comment on Caitlin back there. The mentality of WWA going in this cycle of declaring they should not be townread and only scum townreads them, but at the same time, people should be townreading WindwardAway, is confusing and kind of exhausting lol.

Question for @WindwardAway #53,very early today you have said yourself that Alison had an agenda to push you, and this was really the only real outed read you had on Alison, so then why'd you say there were better places to push, I know you have had your whole nutella and Sabi push thing, but what made alison less pushable in your eyes then the other people you were focusing on?

WWA feels very glued to the falcon/nutella thing. I have caught wolves in this fashion where they get stuck on a topic and milk it forever and ever. Yes I know they are busy so I will give them space, but yeah. I find #572 a kind of scummy post. I feel like WWA talked in circles on Rondo which is kinda weird.

I am curious about WWA's later read on me since they have claimed my posts have been "OK so far" without having deep dived into me.

I forgot to reply to the first question lol

Alison was less pushable than Nutella because I had already determined on N0 that Nutella felt scummier due to her response to me about falcon. Meaning I ranked Nutella as scummier than falcon, but also scummier than Alison. Alison was actually the one I thought was least scummy of the three because that take was based on how I perceived her scumread on me as coming from bad faith. She claimed that I was scum trying to pocket Sabi because I told people to get off Sabi's back, because telling someone they shouldn't sign up if they don't enjoy the game doesn't motivate them more to play. The point was not to make Sabi feel welcome; it was that rubbing dirt in people's faces just because they said they don't want to be here doesn't actually help anyone. It's pointless and it's rude imo. You can argue that playing a game when you don't want to be here is rude, too, sure. But I saw no need for multiple people to keep repeating that Sabi shouldn't play.

So Alison latching onto that by saying it's a pocketing attempt is either incredibly out of tune with what my intentions were, or it's scum looking for an excuse to vote me. I chose to believe the latter and Alison just continued focusing on me as her primary scumread. So I just figured I'm correct that she's scum trying to push me for dumb reasons. Her response to me about the nutella/falcon thing was more reasonable, so I backed off for a bit and gave it more thought. But I still do think she has scum equity, and now that I've looked at a bit more of Nutella's posts I'm less inclined to think she's scum over Alison.

Point is, reads change. They aren't at a hard ranking in my head because it's D1 and we have no flips. But those were my thoughts.

oh okay, i missed the whole falcon/sabi thing then, because i thought it was merely just the "im town" thing you were commenting on

Oh, yeah I did initially but I dropped it after people said falcon always does that and it doesn't mean anything

[Michelle]

Sigh..

Inb4 Brad is a jester and he just wants to win...

Yawn this is a big possibility

If he is a jester this game will serve as a good example as to why jesters are inherently unfun for every other player

I think I am the only person I know who plays like a jester only when I'm not a jester lol
I kinda don't think Brad is a jester, else idk how it would get balanced in the other thread. Two jesters in a game seems like a nightmare.

I said it hoping to receive an answer from him.
Didn't happen

[Creature]

Maybe Cape90 does feel better?

[Lime Coke]

Lime Coke
3
18%
Voters: Lemonfairy, Guillotine, Creature

Ftr Brad has only 2 votes because Guillo and Creature are the same slot


Brad how long do you intend to ignore me? @Lime Coke

I'm not ignoring you. I said "hi" not too long ago.

[Dyslexicon]

Lime

Are you self detonating?

You are cute and adorable

[WindwardAway]

mmm wind towny again lol

?

mindmeld on cape

but WWA said that i was towny after you called wind town, unless you were talking about a different mindmeld

I'm pretty sure I said you were towny sometime on N0 or start of D1
Either that or I imagined posting it and never actually did lmao

[Creature]

Guess I am setting the bar very low for my townreads, but if I set it high Michelle's prob gonna be my only townread

[Michelle]

This game feels like half the players are playing and the other half is doing ???

Yeah. Feels like a game with my noob homies, not like a champions game.

[WindwardAway]

[VOTE: LimeCoke] aubergine

hmm
anyways i think this is a decent vote then, I am liking WWA more, thanks for your cooperation

Like LimeCoke isn't hitting any of his town notes and I don't think game ending jesters are very likely just from a "that's bad game design" perspective, not to mention it would be confusing from the split thread POV I think LOL

Yeah, sorry I was in a weird space where I think I was both not explaining correctly, and not reading correctly lol
Hopefully got everything straightened out now

[Creature]

My lynch order is prob at Lime Coke > Alison > revisit Dyslexicon/Master Radishes/nutella/Sabiplz

[Michelle]

Lime Coke
3
18%
Voters: Lemonfairy, Guillotine, Creature

Ftr Brad has only 2 votes because Guillo and Creature are the same slot


Brad how long do you intend to ignore me? @Lime Coke

I'm not ignoring you. I said "hi" not too long ago.

I understand that is all I can get and I am sad.

[Lime Coke]

Lime

Are you self detonating?

You are cute and adorable

Nah I'm just having fun.

[Creature]

My lynch order is prob at Lime Coke > Alison > revisit Dyslexicon/Master Radishes/nutella/Sabiplz

or look at the slankers DarlingMonroe/Davos/DrWilgy/NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

[Lime Coke]

Lime Coke
3
18%
Voters: Lemonfairy, Guillotine, Creature

Ftr Brad has only 2 votes because Guillo and Creature are the same slot


Brad how long do you intend to ignore me? @Lime Coke

I'm not ignoring you. I said "hi" not too long ago.

I understand that is all I can get and I am sad.

Sorry I'm messing around that's all I can explain.

[Lime Coke]

I'll give you something hold on.

[WindwardAway]

I gtg soon too and probably won't be back for eod so gonna place my vote on Brad.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Brad, I'm sorry but I have no clue what you're trying to accomplish. Atp I think you're a better wagon than Alison for today.

[WindwardAway]

Wait

[WindwardAway]

Lemme check something actually

[Lime Coke]

Town:
Michelle
Squidward Away
Lemonfairy
Nutella
DarlingMonroe
Rondo
Cape

[WindwardAway]

My lynch order is prob at Lime Coke > Alison > revisit Dyslexicon/Master Radishes/nutella/Sabiplz

or look at the slankers DarlingMonroe/Davos/DrWilgy/NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Davos is a bot, I wonder what happens if we vote it

[Lime Coke]

I gtg soon too and probably won't be back for eod so gonna place my vote on Brad.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Brad, I'm sorry but I have no clue what you're trying to accomplish. Atp I think you're a better wagon than Alison for today.

But Alison is always a better wagon than me.

[Creature]

I gtg soon too and probably won't be back for eod so gonna place my vote on Brad.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Brad, I'm sorry but I have no clue what you're trying to accomplish. Atp I think you're a better wagon than Alison for today.

I'll prob be around for EOD but also I'd rather not be alone

[Lime Coke]

Also dammit Squidward I just put you in my towns.

[Creature]

My lynch order is prob at Lime Coke > Alison > revisit Dyslexicon/Master Radishes/nutella/Sabiplz

or look at the slankers DarlingMonroe/Davos/DrWilgy/NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Davos is a bot, I wonder what happens if we vote it

Oh right. It's weird I thought they were a player.

[Michelle]

Lime Coke
3
18%
Voters: Lemonfairy, Guillotine, Creature

Ftr Brad has only 2 votes because Guillo and Creature are the same slot


Brad how long do you intend to ignore me? @Lime Coke

I'm not ignoring you. I said "hi" not too long ago.

I understand that is all I can get and I am sad.

Sorry I'm messing around that's all I can explain.

Ok.
The thing is I would like to discuss some reads with you but if you really have fun I can't say anything.

[WindwardAway]

Also dammit Squidward I just put you in my towns.

I'm actually checking something first before solidifying my vote

[Dyslexicon]

Radishes posts feels like work. No joy
Kind of think he's wolf

But he won't be chopped today

Lime will be chopped
So hope he decided to screw wolves over and not town over
But kind of maybe doubt it
But also sure

Radish/Rondo interaction beep beep
Maybe
Don't know about Rondo otherwise tbh

I want to give Guillo the benefit of the doubt
But him tryharding and a couple of the things he's said
About me being good at mafia and pretending to not follow the game
Think it's slightly more likely he says it as mafia than town maybe
I think generally Guillo is motivated by showing competence
If he cares about being right and cares about catching wolves, he can be town
If he cares about someone going oh that was a well played wolf game good faking, he can be wolf
Maybe someone who has read his posts has an idea

Sponge says Nut and Michelle are town

Unsure if Nook has the right vibes actually, it's hrm

Hope the other thread gives Leetic a chance, cause they are easy to read over time
Read their ISO from D0 and it was more flat than usual, but the complaining was consistent with town games

That's about it. Have read very little tbh

[Michelle]

Town:
Michelle
Squidward Away
Lemonfairy
Nutella
DarlingMonroe
Rondo
Cape

Lemon and Rondo are not in my town list.
Tell me your thoughts about them

[Michelle]

I'll give you something hold on.

Thanks

[Dyslexicon]

Town:
Michelle
Squidward Away
Lemonfairy
Nutella
DarlingMonroe
Rondo
Cape

Have you read the game?

[Sabiplz]

Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Also Lime Coke didn't even post?

Brad's n0 reads were bad and him being 0 poster adds up to him being in his wolf meta.

@Sabiplz You said it here but maybe you meant posts just given you seemed confused on that.

Very tempting to push LimeCoke though because his posts since he's showed up have been pretty bad

I meant posts

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy you said me and rondo are scum so why vote me alongside him?

Read this sentence three times

Meow

[Michelle]

Arrr

Is this a post from a bot?

[WindwardAway]

Also dammit Squidward I just put you in my towns.

I'm actually checking something first before solidifying my vote

Ok nvm
I thought maybe Brad had a post restriction but now I just think he's RPing as whatever his flavor is

[WindwardAway]

Radishes posts feels like work. No joy
Kind of think he's wolf

But he won't be chopped today

Lime will be chopped
So hope he decided to screw wolves over and not town over
But kind of maybe doubt it
But also sure

Radish/Rondo interaction beep beep
Maybe
Don't know about Rondo otherwise tbh

I want to give Guillo the benefit of the doubt
But him tryharding and a couple of the things he's said
About me being good at mafia and pretending to not follow the game
Think it's slightly more likely he says it as mafia than town maybe
I think generally Guillo is motivated by showing competence
If he cares about being right and cares about catching wolves, he can be town
If he cares about someone going oh that was a well played wolf game good faking, he can be wolf
Maybe someone who has read his posts has an idea

Sponge says Nut and Michelle are town

Unsure if Nook has the right vibes actually, it's hrm

Hope the other thread gives Leetic a chance, cause they are easy to read over time
Read their ISO from D0 and it was more flat than usual, but the complaining was consistent with town games

That's about it. Have read very little tbh

Please give thoughts on Creature if you have any

[Dyslexicon]

Please give thoughts on Creature if you have any

No thoughts, haven't read sowwy