Turtles again

[Belzy]

Belzy only makes up this whole thing if theyre the Main Character

Because i hoped ppl are capable of developping a read, but you keep stuck at my intro and mention the entire thread to cfd me. Lol. And ideally, we dont say these things in the thread, but you make me do it.

Ideally u dont post at all until u know what u are ya muffinhead

(Dont do that lol usually ppl get modkilled for that ime)

Well, i was pissed about it all.

And i dont care if i do. Remember how i called thia game? Imo it is ..

[tedxtr]

delta you better nk me

[Delta]

delta you better nk me

if i could i would dont worry

[tutuu]

I was wrong, Belzy is ABSOLUTELY the main character

[tutuu]

Im sheeping belzy until the end of the game

[tutuu]

Im sheeping belzy until the end of the game

[tedxtr]

Im sheeping belzy until the end of the game

[Epignosis]

I'm most interested in Seanzie's observation that the wagon on Belzy is bad.

Here's what Seanzie provided:

"Tutuu is... Tutuu."
"Ted actually does look pretty townie"
And I "don't."

That's it. Seanzie doesn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon because I'm on it.

This is not a civilian. This is someone who knows Belzy's alignment and got caught making a blithe observation about it.

I have a hard time thinking that you aren't purposefully reducing key things here.

I also didn't like Ted when I first said it, but only after Xan said something did I re-eval on Ted and change my mind. Also, Tutuu beingTutuu is null/meh, so there was no one I liked on it, and multiple people I was wary of (even though that changed again once I looked into Ted)

You made the comment that you didn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon.

I asked "What's wrong with it?"

You said nothing about tutuu, proceeded to call ted good, and said I haven't made an impression.

You backtracked so hard the asphalt owns your sole.

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: DrWilgy ] aubergine

will be funny if we kill him again without knowing

[DrWilgy]

gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

[Delta]

[VOTE: DrWilgy ] aubergine

will be funny if we kill him again without knowing

i think he knows

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: DrWilgy ] aubergine

will be funny if we kill him again without knowing

U thought

[Delta]

gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

gm wilgy!!

[tedxtr]

the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

[DrWilgy]

the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

Yeah Delta told me to hop in thread

[tedxtr]

the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

Yeah Delta told me to hop in thread

yeah, i BET

[Delta]

the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

Yeah Delta told me to hop in thread

of course
sorry for the 25 pings in wolfchat

[DrWilgy]

How did Xan become such a strong consensus?

[tutuu]

@Belzy do u wanna chop xan or wilgy i follow u everywhere

[Epignosis]

Yeah, I feel pretty lost right now not gonna lie. Someone tell me what to believe. Give me reads I can sheep.

This is not the Seanzie I saw last outing.

And? Do you have any conclusions to draw, or are you doing that politician thing again?

You're mafia. That's my conclusion.

I don't know what politician thing you're talking about or why you say "again."

[Delta]

How did Xan become such a strong consensus?

ive been over why im voting xan a lot if you look through my iso
im not sure how some people ended up here but like
i want to take it as hes being bussed because that makes more sense in my head
still v curious about your read on falcon since that would line up with that idea

[tedxtr]

the batsignal makes wilgy a locked wolf

sorry wilgy

Yeah Delta told me to hop in thread

did you say this cuz you knew i wolf read him?

[Belzy]

@Belzy do u wanna chop xan or wilgy i follow u everywhere

I wanna chop Xan, because Xan has given an attitude that is not helpful imo. In original rand I liked his posting and demeanor much more.

Wilgy. Hard to say cuz we havent say much about Wilg so far.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Zenon's tots hot.

What?

[Seanzie]

I'm most interested in Seanzie's observation that the wagon on Belzy is bad.

Here's what Seanzie provided:

"Tutuu is... Tutuu."
"Ted actually does look pretty townie"
And I "don't."

That's it. Seanzie doesn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon because I'm on it.

This is not a civilian. This is someone who knows Belzy's alignment and got caught making a blithe observation about it.

I have a hard time thinking that you aren't purposefully reducing key things here.

I also didn't like Ted when I first said it, but only after Xan said something did I re-eval on Ted and change my mind. Also, Tutuu beingTutuu is null/meh, so there was no one I liked on it, and multiple people I was wary of (even though that changed again once I looked into Ted)

You made the comment that you didn't like the composition of the Belzy wagon.

I asked "What's wrong with it?"

You said nothing about tutuu, proceeded to call ted good, and said I haven't made an impression.

You backtracked so hard the asphalt owns your sole.

No, read my response.

I don't like the composition of Belzy's wagon.

What's wrong with it?

You and Ted have made little-to-no impression on me this game, which is worrisome. Tutuu is... Tutuu.

I did check Ted's ISO after Xan's comment though and Ted actually does look pretty townie. You on the other hand don't.

When I said it, Ted and you both were worrisome and Tutuu was meh (sure, I didn't say "Tutuu is meh", but it's how I felt at the time).

Only AFTER I said it did Xan say something that made me look at Ted. so AFTER I said it, my thoughts on Ted changed.

[tutuu]

My full reads:

Belzy







Rest

[tedxtr]

My full reads:

Belzy







Rest

imagine the embarrassment if belzy was a wolf

[tutuu]

@Belzy do u wanna chop xan or wilgy i follow u everywhere

I wanna chop Xan, because Xan has given an attitude that is not helpful imo. In original rand I liked his posting and demeanor much more.

Wilgy. Hard to say cuz we havent say much about Wilg so far.

Lets do it famlam

[Belzy]

Zenon's tots hot.

What?

It's me playing the oo's game with you.

[Seanzie]

gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

Why is your vote on Falcon?

[tutuu]

My full reads:

Belzy







Rest

imagine the embarrassment if belzy was a wolf

If belzy is wolf theyre honestly the single greatest wolf ive seen in my entire life

[Belzy]

Weird thing: original rand I was more willing to lynch Wilg day 1 than now, but Wilg waa town that time.

[tedxtr]

Weird thing: original rand I was more willing to lynch Wilg day 1 than now, but Wilg waa town that time.

im starting to think he could easily be a wolf

[Belzy]

gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

Why is your vote on Falcon?

Falcon is flying utr imo. Why is that?

[Seanzie]

How did Xan become such a strong consensus?

I think there are a few different things different people are seeing. For me personally, I feel like there was a great tonal shift (Falcon was kinda the first to point this out) in Xan this game vs. last, and after being pressured about it, they seemed to really try to emulate some of the ways they were pushing last game. Esooa made a good point that Xan is doing very little solving compared to last game (even though I don't think Esooa is on the wagon, and it was unclear to me if they came out of their Xan reading with a strong scumread, a light scumread, or a wishy-washy townread/null read or something).

[Belzy]

Weird thing: original rand I was more willing to lynch Wilg day 1 than now, but Wilg waa town that time.

im starting to think he could easily be a wolf

Could you elobarate on that?

[Seanzie]

Yeah, I feel pretty lost right now not gonna lie. Someone tell me what to believe. Give me reads I can sheep.

This is not the Seanzie I saw last outing.

And? Do you have any conclusions to draw, or are you doing that politician thing again?

You're mafia. That's my conclusion.

I don't know what politician thing you're talking about or why you say "again."

When you're a wolf, you do this thing where you speak in a way that can be interpreted by the audience in whatever way the audience wants to interpret it, instead of giving clear content. It reminds me of how some politicians speak.

[tedxtr]

Weird thing: original rand I was more willing to lynch Wilg day 1 than now, but Wilg waa town that time.

im starting to think he could easily be a wolf

Could you elobarate on that?

not really, a lot of it is based on meta from years ago. i can't be too confident due to that, but in here i think he outed more thoughts that show solving than his usual MO of voting someone and tunneling til he spots something to change his mind

and his re-entrance is pretty poor

+ he's here for an EoD which is wolfy in and of itself lmfao

[Seanzie]

gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

Why is your vote on Falcon?

Falcon is flying utr imo. Why is that?

Falcon is often utr, I'm not sure if that is AI. Some of his pushes have felt good to me though. In particular, his original Xan push had teeth in a way that I think Falcon has a hard time faking as mafia. Not impossible to fake, but hard to.

[tedxtr]

Falcon is a wolf.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Why?

Falcon's not actually pushing for engagement. I pitched a softball and got a gif.

pretty tame callout

[Belzy]

gm.

I see we are murdering Xan. Neat.

Why is your vote on Falcon?

Falcon is flying utr imo. Why is that?

Falcon is often utr, I'm not sure if that is AI. Some of his pushes have felt good to me though. In particular, his original Xan push had teeth in a way that I think Falcon has a hard time faking as mafia. Not impossible to fake, but hard to.

Falcon also was utr day 1 in original rand. Both times nothing alarmed me so far coming from falcon.

[tedxtr]

also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

[Belzy]

I ISO'd Wilg both rands....

It is hard to rule anything out on day 1 already cuz Wilg posts so little. Wilg could be town again, or wolf with Xan, or with someone else. I cannot find enough to call Wilg a wolf right now.

[tedxtr]

that's ok

[Seanzie]

I'm kind of okay with Wilgy/Xan wagons.

Also Ted continues to look good on this mage IMO.

[Belzy]

also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

I am trying to compare the games, but even what is different could not mean much. How fam are you with Wilg?

[Belzy]

I'm kind of okay with Wilgy/Xan wagons.

Also Ted continues to look good on this mage IMO.

I agree with both statements.

[tedxtr]

also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

I am trying to compare the games, but even what is different could not mean much. How fam are you with Wilg?

i haven't played with him in a long time, but when he was a wolf, i caught him, when he was a villa, i found him

[Belzy]

How often gets Wilg mislynched day 1 (or 2)?

[Belzy]

also there's a subtle cue that he's stating his wolfread on falcon as being wolf because he did not react appropriately

whereas with his usual suspicions he actually votes for something and not as a part of how people respond, if that makes sense

I am trying to compare the games, but even what is different could not mean much. How fam are you with Wilg?

i haven't played with him in a long time, but when he was a wolf, i caught him, when he was a villa, i found him

And you feel like you caught him?