Se7en Mafia [GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN]

[Epignosis]

(I got a raise! I also got a bonus! Both unexpected! I had to sit in a room with bosses and then eat lunch with them for a few hours ) so I'm doing that tonight.

Nice!

So I need to read Mata, and also Epi. He confused me yesterday, with what he said vs how he voted. I should be around tonight reading back.

Didn't mean to confuse you. I'm just horsing around half the time. Kate had a million votes so I parked elsewhere.

[Epignosis]

Everything I said S~V~S about your posts was true. I do not think you are evil in this one. Most everything you say makes sense to me, and I even like that you took the time to correct some shit about the movie so I didn't have to. Props.

Sooo... was this a joke? You haven't much posted since then.

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

You lady of the night.

You called Kate that, too. Was that just a joke about the 4EW references? You're acting ... in a way I don't associate with you. That's the best way I can explain it. You don't seem like town Epi (although you did early on), but you don't really seem bad either.

I find this all intriguing. Come talk to us tonight.

First post was true.

Second thing was banter.

[Epignosis]

Pyxxy was John Doe

on night 1 Pyxxy swapped with someone else

that someone could be anyone... even you

it's SVS tho

I had that role already in BSG, I'd quit Mafia if I got it again. It's Dennis

Also swap theory is interesting, but I think it's similar to the role in BSG, iirc Scotty played that game, too.

I'm interested in your theory (sorry I missed it- a link would be fine if you don't mind).

Do you think Dennis would enjoy being John Doe though? I haven't seen him around since things went down with him and Kate.

[Epignosis]

Anyway [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

[Epignosis]

I tracked Kate to Dennis n1. I'm an odd night tracker.

Okay, I thought so.

I am 100% sure Kate is Lust and 95% sure Dennis is Greed. The Kate thing is mech, the dennis thing is based off something Kate told me in a btsc I have with her. In particular, Kate told me she targeted Greed and got BTSC with them, but didn't tell me who greed was, but I had suspicion it was Dennis.

Why would Sneazie say, "Okay, I thought so" in response to Mac's claim?

[Epignosis]

Just lost my sonofabitchin place.

[Epignosis]

yeah no I do not like this little exercise.

Sorry Mac. Towncore with someone who is more sure.

Damn Mac. Rejected like that by the real Lust. Oof. Good luck next time buddy.

[MacDougall]

the thing about wagonomics is that

a) wolves have to vote
b) wolves like to vote in ways that feel safe
c) usually they don't like to vote together

because c doesn't apply it actually makes the tutuu wagon (and porscha wagon) more likely to have multiple wolves than usual.

Townies early in the game are genuinely solving and more likely to be voting their scumreads. The wolves are more likely to throw votes behind players who are making themselves the leader of the wagon ie. Kate for Tutuu and me for Porscha.

I'm not saying no town will have sheeped but I am saying that the vc as the Tutuu and Porscha wagons were emerging is very likely to have wolves voting on it. Particularly ones that voted for bad reasons (or no reasons) who if town would be less inclined to make the vote ie. Wilgy voting Tutuu which I find to be very careless for him.

How many "wolves" were there Day 1? Day 2?

This is not your standard mafia experience, I'm afraid.

Day 1 you are dealing with John Doe and that's it. Then Night 1 plays out. Day 2? Now you have a mafia game.

wolves is just being used interchangeable with all the sins and john doe combined, i speak to that in the post you're dismissing lol

[MacDougall]

I tracked Kate to Dennis n1. I'm an odd night tracker.

Okay, I thought so.

I am 100% sure Kate is Lust and 95% sure Dennis is Greed. The Kate thing is mech, the dennis thing is based off something Kate told me in a btsc I have with her. In particular, Kate told me she targeted Greed and got BTSC with them, but didn't tell me who greed was, but I had suspicion it was Dennis.

Why would Sneazie say, "Okay, I thought so" in response to Mac's claim?

because he was in a btsc with kate and kate had told him that he'd targeted someone and hadn't told him who, but he suspected it was dennis

[Epignosis]

I tracked Kate to Dennis n1. I'm an odd night tracker.

Okay, I thought so.

I am 100% sure Kate is Lust and 95% sure Dennis is Greed. The Kate thing is mech, the dennis thing is based off something Kate told me in a btsc I have with her. In particular, Kate told me she targeted Greed and got BTSC with them, but didn't tell me who greed was, but I had suspicion it was Dennis.

Why would Sneazie say, "Okay, I thought so" in response to Mac's claim?

because he was in a btsc with kate and kate had told him that he'd targeted someone and hadn't told him who, but he suspected it was dennis

All right, thanks.

[MacDougall]

i know catching up is hard but the information is in the post you're quoting lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

<fart>

[MacDougall]

ngl this catch up is pocketing me hard

[MacDougall]

maybe im just bad at mafia

[RondoDimBuckle]

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[Epignosis]

the thing about wagonomics is that

a) wolves have to vote
b) wolves like to vote in ways that feel safe
c) usually they don't like to vote together

because c doesn't apply it actually makes the tutuu wagon (and porscha wagon) more likely to have multiple wolves than usual.

Townies early in the game are genuinely solving and more likely to be voting their scumreads. The wolves are more likely to throw votes behind players who are making themselves the leader of the wagon ie. Kate for Tutuu and me for Porscha.

I'm not saying no town will have sheeped but I am saying that the vc as the Tutuu and Porscha wagons were emerging is very likely to have wolves voting on it. Particularly ones that voted for bad reasons (or no reasons) who if town would be less inclined to make the vote ie. Wilgy voting Tutuu which I find to be very careless for him.

How many "wolves" were there Day 1? Day 2?

This is not your standard mafia experience, I'm afraid.

Day 1 you are dealing with John Doe and that's it. Then Night 1 plays out. Day 2? Now you have a mafia game.

wolves is just being used interchangeable with all the sins and john doe combined, i speak to that in the post you're dismissing lol

I am not of the view that the sins consider themselves necessary to achieve the mafia wincon.

[MacDougall]

the thing about wagonomics is that

a) wolves have to vote
b) wolves like to vote in ways that feel safe
c) usually they don't like to vote together

because c doesn't apply it actually makes the tutuu wagon (and porscha wagon) more likely to have multiple wolves than usual.

Townies early in the game are genuinely solving and more likely to be voting their scumreads. The wolves are more likely to throw votes behind players who are making themselves the leader of the wagon ie. Kate for Tutuu and me for Porscha.

I'm not saying no town will have sheeped but I am saying that the vc as the Tutuu and Porscha wagons were emerging is very likely to have wolves voting on it. Particularly ones that voted for bad reasons (or no reasons) who if town would be less inclined to make the vote ie. Wilgy voting Tutuu which I find to be very careless for him.

How many "wolves" were there Day 1? Day 2?

This is not your standard mafia experience, I'm afraid.

Day 1 you are dealing with John Doe and that's it. Then Night 1 plays out. Day 2? Now you have a mafia game.

wolves is just being used interchangeable with all the sins and john doe combined, i speak to that in the post you're dismissing lol

I am not of the view that the sins consider themselves necessary to achieve the mafia wincon.

In the initial quote I am calling all the sins wolves because it's easier to just call them all wolves.

In the later quote I am speculating that the sins, while mafia siding, don't have the same level of self preservation instinct as John Doe himself would.

What are you trying to imply?

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy where are your reads at right now?

Yeet Dennis.

Why?

May ISO Seans remaining PoE after. Idk.

[MacDougall]

The post, is me talking about wagonomics in the context of a game that doesn't have strict wolf/town dynamics. You haven't even referred to the actual content of the post in order to take issue with the fact that the 7 sins aren't strictly wolves. Okay, I didn't make the post to make a point that the sins are wolves.

[Michelle]

Brutal

Honestly, Michelle feels like she's fallen off

You'll say the same if Nook flips mafia?

[MacDougall]

"Because c doesn't apply it actually makes the tutuu wagon (and porscha wagon) more likely to have multiple wolves than usual."

This is me saying c doesn't apply, because they are not mafia who have btsc. You are trying to dismiss my argument by saying something that I addressed when I was making it.

[MacDougall]

Brutal

Honestly, Michelle feels like she's fallen off

You'll say the same if Nook flips mafia?

I thought you wanted to flip Wilgy?

[Michelle]

The post, is me talking about wagonomics in the context of a game that doesn't have strict wolf/town dynamics. You haven't even referred to the actual content of the post in order to take issue with the fact that the 7 sins aren't strictly wolves. Okay, I didn't make the post to make a point that the sins are wolves.

The sins are not town. That's all that matters to me.

[Michelle]

Brutal

Honestly, Michelle feels like she's fallen off

You'll say the same if Nook flips mafia?

I thought you wanted to flip Wilgy?

He's Poe as well.
But my vote is on Nook

[MacDougall]

Yeah cool I am just like... somewhat incredulous about the lines of dialogue Epi is taking here. He's like not even attempting to read the posts he's arguing with lol.

[Epignosis]

the thing about wagonomics is that

a) wolves have to vote
b) wolves like to vote in ways that feel safe
c) usually they don't like to vote together

because c doesn't apply it actually makes the tutuu wagon (and porscha wagon) more likely to have multiple wolves than usual.

Townies early in the game are genuinely solving and more likely to be voting their scumreads. The wolves are more likely to throw votes behind players who are making themselves the leader of the wagon ie. Kate for Tutuu and me for Porscha.

I'm not saying no town will have sheeped but I am saying that the vc as the Tutuu and Porscha wagons were emerging is very likely to have wolves voting on it. Particularly ones that voted for bad reasons (or no reasons) who if town would be less inclined to make the vote ie. Wilgy voting Tutuu which I find to be very careless for him.

How many "wolves" were there Day 1? Day 2?

This is not your standard mafia experience, I'm afraid.

Day 1 you are dealing with John Doe and that's it. Then Night 1 plays out. Day 2? Now you have a mafia game.

wolves is just being used interchangeable with all the sins and john doe combined, i speak to that in the post you're dismissing lol

I am not of the view that the sins consider themselves necessary to achieve the mafia wincon.

In the initial quote I am calling all the sins wolves because it's easier to just call them all wolves.

In the later quote I am speculating that the sins, while mafia siding, don't have the same level of self preservation instinct as John Doe himself would.

What are you trying to imply?

Nothing. I'm picking with you.

Finally caught up and can say things that hopefully make sense.

[MacDougall]

That would be great thanks.

[MacDougall]

Ask me anything, I've got all the facts right here in my meatus.

[Michelle]

Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

there's no way is a hero shot

I am very queefed by Rondo.

Roxy linked the explanation to that word, i would like you to reformulate.
I also have something to say about Rondo after

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ask me anything, I've got all the facts right here in my meatus.

is sushi a burrito?

[Michelle]

Ask me anything, I've got all the facts right here in my meatus.

is sushi a burrito?

No

Why the vote on Mac after Sean died?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ask me anything, I've got all the facts right here in my meatus.

is sushi a burrito?

No

Why the vote on Mac after Sean died?

After? I dont think I have voted Mac after sean died? Or If I did it was because he was being a poo, but it wasnt serious vote.

[MacDougall]

Ask me anything, I've got all the facts right here in my meatus.

is sushi a burrito?

no

[MacDougall]

Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

there's no way is a hero shot

I am very queefed by Rondo.

Roxy linked the explanation to that word, i would like you to reformulate.
I also have something to say about Rondo after

I meant what I said

[Michelle]

Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

there's no way is a hero shot

I am very queefed by Rondo.

Roxy linked the explanation to that word, i would like you to reformulate.
I also have something to say about Rondo after

I meant what I said

The meaning is not clear for me as a sentence in a mafia game. It doesn't show opinion about alignament or if it's a suspicion or something related to a read.
So please tell me what you meant in other words

[RondoDimBuckle]

He says I am being a queef and therefore queefing him up. Its really quite plain.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am waiting to see what Michelle has to say about me. I expect it will be something awe inspiring and jaw dropping and not outing for her

[MacDougall]

Rondo is right.

[Michelle]

I'll say you don't get my lack of understand of Mac's intention in that post

[MacDougall]

Queef being a word I chose to use to imply he was bothering me.

[RondoDimBuckle]

He was calling me a lil shit

[RondoDimBuckle]

Which is NAI

[Michelle]

I am going to work.

I don't understand why Rondo sheeped Sean as long as he was alive and switched when he died.
Seems like a pocket who was no longer necessary

[Michelle]

Queef being a word I chose to use to imply he was bothering me.

Bothering like a town who''s trolling or like scum who's aiming to discredit?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am going to work.

I don't understand why Rondo sheeped Sean as long as he was alive and switched when he died.
Seems like a pocket who was no longer necessary

Because I was applying pressure to mac because sean was doing a thing, I was never going to end on mac

[RondoDimBuckle]

and he is dead so we can verify. But I dont think Sean was ever going to end on Mac as well, nor use his power on mac tonight.

[MacDougall]

Queef being a word I chose to use to imply he was bothering me.

Bothering like a town who''s trolling or like scum who's aiming to discredit?

At the time it was the latter but I am also an omgussy little baby sometimes.

[RondoDimBuckle]

If Seanzie wasnt shot (by dennis) then obviously he would have faked the sus on Mac, myself and he might have ended on Mac, then dennis would go over (unless we needed to flip) Seanzie gets to live another night because lol he is checking Mac then maybe he checks Wilgy or something and BAM we get another 2fer.

[Michelle]

If Seanzie wasnt shot (by dennis) then obviously he would have faked the sus on Mac, myself and he might have ended on Mac, then dennis would go over (unless we needed to flip) Seanzie gets to live another night because lol he is checking Mac then maybe he checks Wilgy or something and BAM we get another 2fer.

What about his clear suspicion on Nanook?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Nook isnt end gaming