Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[Kate]

guys im really trying here but ive got a migraine.

[Porscha]

I think they are objectively good points but I worry almost purely on the basis that dennis as town has also had abysmal decision making as well in some of my previous games with him.

This is so funny help

Lol. Glad you find it funny

[Porscha]

Ok I need an honest answer: does Neon have it inside of themselves to pull the ATE nonsense they were doing earlier today as a wolf?

I wanna say no, because Zenon's got this thing where she policy votes self voters, and I think wolf zenon thinks about that, whereas here Zenon actually felt like cornered

I hard defended a self voter recently and I've been getting more frustrated with this game and self voting more commonly now. Don't trust this take Dennis.

Have you considered just Not Doing That

[Porscha]

@Dennis

You a wolf?

Nope

yep.

Nice distancing

I laughed at this sequence and I don't know why

Humor stems from relatability or elements of truth and I think we can all see what wilgy commented on as off putting so therefore it is funny

[Dennis]

@Dennis you're town, right?

Answer this post directly and with verbosity.

Yes, mother, I am oriented with the town faction in this game of Forum Mafia on mafiathesyndicate.com titled "Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Day 4]".

[Dennis]

@Dennis

You a wolf?

Nope

yep.

Nice distancing

I laughed at this sequence and I don't know why

Humor stems from relatability or elements of truth and I think we can all see what wilgy commented on as off putting so therefore it is funny

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[Dennis]

I'm sorry porscha I didn't mean that

[Porscha]

I do however want to take sides for the historical records and I disagree with sean in the debacle

What exactly do you disagree with?

Succinctly and politely, you are aware that your play can be particularly aggravating regardless of your intention and instead of considering that multiple people have said this to you enough that you can be better aware of boundaries and when people are reaching their limit with your play, you still frequently do the same thing over and over so I dont feel like it's right of you to insist it's only ever anybody else's fault when they react to you in negative ways because people have already told you they will do so, and that by bulldozing forward accusing everyone of not controlling themselves while you dont bother to alter yourself either, will inevitably cause people to react poorly regardless of role or alignment and ends up clogging up games or entirely isolating players (I have experienced this with you personally on multiple occasions) and killing wim or threadstate. Like as an analogy, you put yourself in front of people trying to get across the crosswalk and then say "if you're town just move around me" and when they try to move around you, you step in front of them again and say "if you're town just move around me" and this goes on long enough that even patient people start getting frustrated and then you say "well if you were town then I wouldnt be in your way, so you must be wolfing" and that's undoubtedly incorrect logic and people get legitimately frustrated by it

Unrelated to morals, mac had already given ai content so idk why your reason for it all was to insist you needed to do it to get him to provide ai content lol

[Porscha]

I'm sorry porscha I didn't mean that

Didnt mean what

Was the emoji calling me a nerd

[Dennis]

I'm sorry porscha I didn't mean that

Didnt mean what

Was the emoji calling me a nerd

Yah it was impulsive

[Porscha]

And why arent you voting me then

I don't think paranoia on my bad play before is a super good reason to not

Not everyone who makes bad posts are wolves

This is specifically a tricky subject in regards to reading you

[Porscha]

I'm sorry porscha I didn't mean that

Didnt mean what

Was the emoji calling me a nerd

Yah it was impulsive

You dont need to apologize for that lol it was funny

[Dennis]

Okay so if my voters wanted to like, hop off me now I'd really appreciate it

[Dennis]

Does anybody else find it actually hilarious how WWA is still top poster by far

[Kate]

Yea I don't think Dennis is bad. I think there's more of a chance wilgy is so I'm moving there since he's got more of a chance to go over thN neon.

[Kate]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Kate]

Now I'm going to sleep for a while.

[Seanzie]

TonyStarkPrime

Neon

MacDougall
Porscha

S~V~S

falcon45ca
Kate

Dennis
DrWilgy

Oh please, is this a joke?

No, why would it be a joke?

Because I'm ridiculously in my town meta and I think you should know it.

I don't think I've ever seen you wolf when I didn't have TMI, so I'm not sure why you would think I know your meta that well.

[TonyStarkPrime]

TonyStarkPrime

Neon

MacDougall
Porscha

S~V~S

falcon45ca
Kate

Dennis
DrWilgy

Oh please, is this a joke?

No, why would it be a joke?

Because I'm ridiculously in my town meta and I think you should know it.

why do people say things like this

[TonyStarkPrime]

mac come look at this game state

[TonyStarkPrime]

So we think Dennis is town because ... reasons, presumably, Kate's town for reasons, and there are only 1.5 players that aren't town for reasons so we chop them in order

[TonyStarkPrime]

The thing is I have absolutely zero sense whether or not Kate is remotely credible

[TonyStarkPrime]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S I'm a little behind. Thoughts on wilgy?

I don’t think he’s bad, tbh. Now that the other games over, I was so sure he was town there, and him being wild led me to reevaluate him here. I just didn’t want to discuss it while the other game was here.

I see you voted him; is it because you think he’s bad, or because you think Dennis isn’t?

(Sorry Wolfie curser person on phone in traffic, no time for goofiness )

[S~V~S]

*wolf not wild

[TonyStarkPrime]

"I see you voted him; is it because you think he’s bad, or because you think Dennis isn’t?" - SVS

at some point these become the same thing. there aren't that many people left

[S~V~S]

"I see you voted him; is it because you think he’s bad, or because you think Dennis isn’t?" - SVS

at some point these become the same thing. there aren't that many people left

No they really don’t, though, in this situation. Because of their relationship and because he’s a new, rapidly evolving player, I don’t know that Kates meta read on him is as reliable as her meta read on Golden, say, or even me.

So for *Kate*, not necessarily any random person, it isn’t the same question.

[Kate]

@Dennis you're town, right?

Answer this post directly and with verbosity.

Yes, mother, I am oriented with the town faction in this game of Forum Mafia on mafiathesyndicate.com titled "Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Day 4]".

I really like you, a lot.

[TonyStarkPrime]

"I see you voted him; is it because you think he’s bad, or because you think Dennis isn’t?" - SVS

at some point these become the same thing. there aren't that many people left

No they really don’t, though, in this situation. Because of their relationship and because he’s a new, rapidly evolving player, I don’t know that Kates meta read on him is as reliable as her meta read on Golden, say, or even me.

So for *Kate*, not necessarily any random person, it isn’t the same question.

yeah fair

[Kate]

TonyStarkPrime

Neon

MacDougall
Porscha

S~V~S

falcon45ca
Kate

Dennis
DrWilgy

Oh please, is this a joke?

No, why would it be a joke?

Because I'm ridiculously in my town meta and I think you should know it.

I don't think I've ever seen you wolf when I didn't have TMI, so I'm not sure why you would think I know your meta that well.

Well then you should know my town meta so isn't that the same difference?

[Kate]

TonyStarkPrime

Neon

MacDougall
Porscha

S~V~S

falcon45ca
Kate

Dennis
DrWilgy

Oh please, is this a joke?

No, why would it be a joke?

Because I'm ridiculously in my town meta and I think you should know it.

why do people say things like this

Bc I think seanzie should know me better than this by now. We've played a good amount of games together.

Why do people ask things like this?

[Kate]

"I see you voted him; is it because you think he’s bad, or because you think Dennis isn’t?" - SVS

at some point these become the same thing. there aren't that many people left

This is kind of what I was thinking. There aren't so many people left that I don't think are good, thus I kind of have to think Wilgy's bad.

I also want to believe Dennis, and I recognize that is a problem I'll have to overcome some day. But if he's fooling me here, my trust in him going forward will plummet.

[Kate]

@Dennis

You a wolf?

Nope

yep.

Nice distancing

Oh wilgy you kill me

[DrWilgy]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

[S~V~S]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

I could see how you might think it’s me due to the WWA thing more so than Kate. She’s been solving, I’ve been sulking in a corner making very occasional points.

[Kate]

I don't think I've been anti town.

You are one of the two who hasn't in my eyes

Spoiler the other is not me lol

Is it me

[Kate]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

Well it's incorrect because it is wrong.

Do you honestly think I would openly defend a teammate to this extent?

No.

[Kate]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

I could see how you might think it’s me due to the WWA thing more so than Kate. She’s been solving, I’ve been sulking in a corner making very occasional points.

No sulky!

[Dennis]

The thing is I have absolutely zero sense whether or not Kate is remotely credible

She is

[S~V~S]

@Kate why do you think Wilgy is bad?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

It’s an obviously possible game state we’ll deal with in the future

[TonyStarkPrime]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

Well it's incorrect because it is wrong.

Do you honestly think I would openly defend a teammate to this extent?

No.

You maybe should it’s working wonders

[TonyStarkPrime]

Kate seems much more worried about Kate’s credibility than Dennis, for some reason

[DrWilgy]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

I could see how you might think it’s me due to the WWA thing more so than Kate. She’s been solving, I’ve been sulking in a corner making very occasional points.

I mean, I agree with this.

But I also agree with Mac on Dennis.

If everyone was like, hey let's yeet SVS then I'd move to your wagon.

[DrWilgy]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

Well it's incorrect because it is wrong.

Do you honestly think I would openly defend a teammate to this extent?

No.

Yes

[S~V~S]

Kate seems much more worried about Kate’s credibility than Dennis, for some reason

Kates supreme confidence in how civvie she looks is a civ tell for her. She doesn't think she needs to be concerned; this is part of why I believe her. She can't fake that.

[S~V~S]

Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility

I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.

I could see how you might think it’s me due to the WWA thing more so than Kate. She’s been solving, I’ve been sulking in a corner making very occasional points.

I mean, I agree with this.

But I also agree with Mac on Dennis.

If everyone was like, hey let's yeet SVS then I'd move to your wagon.

I don’t plan on voting you today. I am not as sure of Dennis’ civvieness as Kate is. And you do what works for you!

[Kate]

I really don't want to vote dennis. I reread his last few days. He sounds like regular Dennis. I really don't think he's bad.

Look how long it's been a wagon on him. The wolves are happy.

[Dennis]

Hey tsp why did you never answer why pyxxy/those two other people I don't care enough to remember couldn't have been possible

Or at least not seriously

[Kate]

Kate seems much more worried about Kate’s credibility than Dennis, for some reason

Yea, well I'm civ and it drives me nuts when I can't get that across.

Dennis is 90% civ. Don't vote him.