Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[DrWilgy]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

[MacDougall]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

But you had it as a dichotomy before that from what I can see?

[DrWilgy]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

But you had it as a dichotomy before that from what I can see?

Not really sure where you got that. I expressed this last cycle with my 200 word free period.

[MacDougall]

Also pushing me/TSP is a very convenient way to get two miselims in the event TSP is town.

Why are you suddenly ignoring Kate/SVS?

[MacDougall]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

But you had it as a dichotomy before that from what I can see?

Not really sure where you got that. I expressed this last cycle with my 200 word free period.

When did we "bloc vote"?

I only am aware of yesterday, on you.

[MacDougall]

Surely you don't actually think that poorly explaining microworlds and dichotomies is going to persuade people?

Seems like you're just making illogical low effort analyses in lieue of bothering to read more relevant things.

[MacDougall]

It must be good for Neon's solving that you're opposing yourself to TSP though right Neon?

Neon would have the game solved because of this I think. Who are the mafia?

[DrWilgy]

New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

[Porscha]

Oh I remember, I think he faked his curse.

If he was going to do that so lackadaisically, why would he bother in the first place?

Idk, would he? I don't know him at all.

Well actually, yea. The point if faking it wouldn't be to actually mess up his play but to be able to say the baddies cursed me.

Why are you assuming all the powers used so far are wolf powers?

[DrWilgy]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

But you had it as a dichotomy before that from what I can see?

Not really sure where you got that. I expressed this last cycle with my 200 word free period.

When did we "bloc vote"?

I only am aware of yesterday, on you.

You were clumped together on Nutella voting alongside T rondo leaving you two as variables.

You were clumped together on Kate D2.

Last cycle was the only time you didn't block vote.

[DrWilgy]

Surely you don't actually think that poorly explaining microworlds and dichotomies is going to persuade people?

Seems like you're just making illogical low effort analyses in lieue of bothering to read more relevant things.

Aye, I'm not trying to persuade people. I'm trying to be correct on my solve and who can be eliminated as variables from said solve.

[DrWilgy]

New Spread:

Spoiler: show

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Immediate observations:
Rondo's D1 wagon still has 3 unsolved but doesn't seem like it'd be pure.

Nutella's D1 wagon still has 2 unsolved but doesn't seem like it'd be pure.

Pyxxy being on Falcon is a decent look for Seanzie, idk if they clump together.

Neon on Pyxxy twice is kinda fire. Good Job Neon.

Does anyone here have the context to inform me if Pyxxy's vote was a legitimate attempt to start a wagon on TSP or was that simply anti-spew?

I think SVS has a rather poor voting record and fits in the SVS, Dennis, Seanzie.

Could yeet in TSP, SVS today.

[MacDougall]

Surely you don't actually think that poorly explaining microworlds and dichotomies is going to persuade people?

Seems like you're just making illogical low effort analyses in lieue of bothering to read more relevant things.

Aye, I'm not trying to persuade people. I'm trying to be correct on my solve and who can be eliminated as variables from said solve.

So giving the illusion of wanting outcomes rather than actually trying to achieve them?

[DrWilgy]

Surely you don't actually think that poorly explaining microworlds and dichotomies is going to persuade people?

Seems like you're just making illogical low effort analyses in lieue of bothering to read more relevant things.

Aye, I'm not trying to persuade people. I'm trying to be correct on my solve and who can be eliminated as variables from said solve.

So giving the illusion of wanting outcomes rather than actually trying to achieve them?

I've been posting in yes/no for 80% of the game. If you honestly believe I'm trying to cast illusion with that, then you've horribly misunderstood my gameplay this game.

[Porscha]

I think Wilgy is town so that's like cool but also annoying cause this is really insightful and would've helped when town was eating itself alive the last 2 days.

Like I'm not sure we've even wagoned a wolf this game

This post

I saw that as soft shielding a teammate while mildly griping trying to not look too partnery. Didn't occur to me it was spewing him town.

Could be

Tsp when I say that interaction could have been w/w: no dont be ridiculous

Tsp when mac says that interaction could have been w/w: perhaps, king

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

It must be good for Neon's solving that you're opposing yourself to TSP though right Neon?

Neon would have the game solved because of this I think. Who are the mafia?

I'm kinda at Wilgy and Dennis

At the very least it's obvious that Wilgy and TSP are probably not aligned I don't think they need to go this hard at each other when I'm an easy misexe to go into.

I don't think Sean is a wolf based on their push into you Mac.

I know I'm not a wolf

I trust you and thus SVS and Kate and Porscha

I think that's my world.

Vote: Wilgy

[DrWilgy]

Explain why you trust SVS to me plz.

[MacDougall]

I think Wilgy is town so that's like cool but also annoying cause this is really insightful and would've helped when town was eating itself alive the last 2 days.

Like I'm not sure we've even wagoned a wolf this game

This post

I saw that as soft shielding a teammate while mildly griping trying to not look too partnery. Didn't occur to me it was spewing him town.

Could be

Tsp when I say that interaction could have been w/w: no dont be ridiculous

Tsp when mac says that interaction could have been w/w: perhaps, king

Can you quote these two reactions side by side please?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

i'm glad that you're sticking to your guns

[MacDougall]

Surely you don't actually think that poorly explaining microworlds and dichotomies is going to persuade people?

Seems like you're just making illogical low effort analyses in lieue of bothering to read more relevant things.

Aye, I'm not trying to persuade people. I'm trying to be correct on my solve and who can be eliminated as variables from said solve.

So giving the illusion of wanting outcomes rather than actually trying to achieve them?

I've been posting in yes/no for 80% of the game. If you honestly believe I'm trying to cast illusion with that, then you've horribly misunderstood my gameplay this game.

Clearly I'm not saying your yes/no was that. I'm saying your world solving might be that.

Is that really so unreasonable?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

You two block voted twice. I'd almost say this is never w/w and likely w/t.

I've been deliberately and openly following mac's votes

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm not like doing a deep dive but Islington TSP for Wind, WWA or WindwardAway returns like 3 results...

that's probably 3 more times than I had thoughts

[MacDougall]

New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Why are you trying to resolve the d1 Nutella wagon and not the d1 Rondo wagon?

Given it was t/t wagonomics would more likely indicative the votes here to be majority town and the wolves off wagon.

[DrWilgy]

Surely you don't actually think that poorly explaining microworlds and dichotomies is going to persuade people?

Seems like you're just making illogical low effort analyses in lieue of bothering to read more relevant things.

Aye, I'm not trying to persuade people. I'm trying to be correct on my solve and who can be eliminated as variables from said solve.

So giving the illusion of wanting outcomes rather than actually trying to achieve them?

I've been posting in yes/no for 80% of the game. If you honestly believe I'm trying to cast illusion with that, then you've horribly misunderstood my gameplay this game.

Clearly I'm not saying your yes/no was that. I'm saying your world solving might be that.

Is that really so unreasonable?

Kinda? I have negative agency this game.

All I can do is be as correct as possible that way anyone that trusts my legacy is lead accurately, as I cannot control the outcome of me flipping or not.

[MacDougall]

New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Why are you trying to resolve the d1 Nutella wagon and not the d1 Rondo wagon?

Given it was t/t wagonomics would more likely indicative the votes here to be majority town and the wolves off wagon.

Further if you had the perspective of being town, wouldn't you consider Kate to be near outed from your perspective? Why is Falcon/Kate not w/t voting you?

[MacDougall]

New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Why are you trying to resolve the d1 Nutella wagon and not the d1 Rondo wagon?

Given it was t/t wagonomics would more likely indicative the votes here to be majority town and the wolves off wagon.

Also are there really no no voters?

[MacDougall]

Also if TSP/Mac is a dichotomy how do you explain Pyxxy voting TSP?

And why are you not assessing SVS as lock mafia for voting out WWA?

[MacDougall]

Your wagonomics solve is so lacking in curiosity and you're leaving so many stones unturned I can't trust it's at all in good faith.

[MacDougall]

Wilgy's votes at eod.

D1 - Kate
D2 - Falcon
D3 - WWA

Thats a very bad vote history in this game.

Neon

No vote
Pyxxy
Pyxxy

Has not ended the day voting a town.

Look at the rest.

TSP or Wilgy is certainly a difference check I think.

Dennis and Wilgy have the worst vote record.

[MacDougall]

@Kate why haven't you buried Dennis by now?

Also why did you ping me twice to come talk to you then not talk to me.

[MacDougall]

Cmon @Neon I need your head in the game. Help me out here.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Explain why you trust SVS to me plz.

Mac very loudly softed mech and I trust Mac

[MacDougall]

When did SVS vote Neon?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm not like doing a deep dive but Islington TSP for Wind, WWA or WindwardAway returns like 3 results...

that's probably 3 more times than I had thoughts

Nice!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Cmon @Neon I need your head in the game. Help me out here.

I'm here I agree with your solve I'm pretty sold on Wilgy Dennis right now

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

When did SVS vote Neon?

Like right at the start of day and never moved

[MacDougall]

When did SVS vote Neon?

Like right at the start of day and never moved

I thought that was Kate?

Is it TSP that moved most recently to just sheep me?

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Someone townread Dennis plz.

[Porscha]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

I am almost certain that at no point yesterday did you put forth a group containing pyxxy sean and wwa

[DrWilgy]

New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Why are you trying to resolve the d1 Nutella wagon and not the d1 Rondo wagon?

Given it was t/t wagonomics would more likely indicative the votes here to be majority town and the wolves off wagon.

I've already advised that there's likely one there and that's part of that solve. It's either SVS or Dennis as I don't think it's in Seanzie following his vote on Falc next to Pyxxy.

Solving in Nutella wagon means less variables to parse through and thus I opt for that first.

[S~V~S]

When did SVS vote Neon?

Like right at the start of day and never moved

I sheeped Kate. I didn’t move when she did, but odds are good I’ll follow her again.

My instincts suck this game and I trust hers at this time more than mine.

[S~V~S]

Oké, dat was totaal onverwacht. Sorry Windward dat ik je verkeerd heb ingeschat.

ik ga op dit moment Katie schapen schamen!



Ik hou van babyschaapjes! heel schattig!!

[VOTE: Neonlicht] aubergine

Ici

[DrWilgy]

New Spread:

Wilgy -> Kate, Falcon
Kate -> Wilgy
Mac -> Lily
Nutella -> Rondo, Mac, TSP
Rondo -> SVS, Dennis, Seanzie, Nutella
Seanzie -> WWA

Falcon -> WWA, Nutella, Seanzie, Pyxxy, DrWIlgy
Kate -> Mac, TSP
Neon -> Kate, Porscha, SVS
Pyxxy -> Neon
TSP -> Falcon
WWA -> Dennis

DrWilgy -> TSP
Pyxxy -> Mac, Kate, Neon, Porscha, WWA
TSP -> Seanzie, Pyxxy
WWA -> SVS, DrWilgy

Why are you trying to resolve the d1 Nutella wagon and not the d1 Rondo wagon?

Given it was t/t wagonomics would more likely indicative the votes here to be majority town and the wolves off wagon.

Further if you had the perspective of being town, wouldn't you consider Kate to be near outed from your perspective? Why is Falcon/Kate not w/t voting you?

I do not think my own wagon was significant enough to define a difference check there. A pure wagon on a town having more than 3 people is unlikely, however a pure wagon on a town consisting of 2 is hard to gauge.

The only reason why 1 in Mac/TSP pops up is because it's happened twice.

[DrWilgy]

Also if TSP/Mac is a dichotomy how do you explain Pyxxy voting TSP?

And why are you not assessing SVS as lock mafia for voting out WWA?

I asked about that, idk how to gauge it as I haven't fully read. I was wondering if others think it may be anti-spew or not.

I basically had? Did you not read that I advised voting in either TSP/SVS is the play?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

I am almost certain that at no point yesterday did you put forth a group containing pyxxy sean and wwa

He did, but the other one was svs/Kate/you IIRC and I think he’s gleaned this one’s a no go

[DrWilgy]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

I am almost certain that at no point yesterday did you put forth a group containing pyxxy sean and wwa

This is weak, you can at least attempt to look at my short iso before blindly discrediting.

But no, the actual conclusion is that there is one in Mac/TSP and that there's at least one in Pyxxy/Seanzie/WWA. Perhaps Seanzie as that'd make them the wolf on both d1 and d2 town flips.

There's an outlier in Kate/Porscha that should be addressed as well.

...

yes

[DrWilgy]

Let's seeeeeeee

If there were 3 wolves, remaining wolf combos could be:
SVS/TSP/Pyxxy
SVS/Porscha/Pyxxy
SVS/Kate/Pyxxy
Dennis/TSP/Pyxxy
Dennis/Porscha/Pyxxy
Dennis/Kate/Pyxxy?

Do these not make sense for any reason and why?

Now that I've narrowed it down to combos like this, I'll start doing some backreading I guess.

[DrWilgy]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

I am almost certain that at no point yesterday did you put forth a group containing pyxxy sean and wwa

He did, but the other one was svs/Kate/you IIRC and I think he’s gleaned this one’s a no go

Specifically it was an outlier in Kate/Porscha. I don't remember what lead me to that.

Regarding SVS, I didn't have them under any of the immediate pairings as there weren't enough variables removed from the game.

If we count Neon/Seanzie as town it makes it very easy to come to the SVS w conclusion.

[MacDougall]

Let's seeeeeeee

If there were 3 wolves, remaining wolf combos could be:
SVS/TSP/Pyxxy
SVS/Porscha/Pyxxy
SVS/Kate/Pyxxy
Dennis/TSP/Pyxxy
Dennis/Porscha/Pyxxy
Dennis/Kate/Pyxxy?

Do these not make sense for any reason and why?

Now that I've narrowed it down to combos like this, I'll start doing some backreading I guess.

Why is Seanzie town?

[DrWilgy]

Let's seeeeeeee

If there were 3 wolves, remaining wolf combos could be:
SVS/TSP/Pyxxy
SVS/Porscha/Pyxxy
SVS/Kate/Pyxxy
Dennis/TSP/Pyxxy
Dennis/Porscha/Pyxxy
Dennis/Kate/Pyxxy?

Do these not make sense for any reason and why?

Now that I've narrowed it down to combos like this, I'll start doing some backreading I guess.

Why is Seanzie town?

Seanzie being town is the weakest of the associative reads.

Simply because Seanzie and Pyxxy being both W on Falcon I think is unlikely. Pyxxy was likely a lone wolf there as I do not see immediate need for wolves to block vote. I'd say that T Seanzie is a 60% read based on this.