Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[Seanzie]

Huh? I literally am just looking at your post count. You say it's not real and then follow up with essentially a confirmation of my point?

Me being one of the top poster says more about people like you and Neon than it does about me.

This is a non sequitor that doesn't address my point whatsoever.

I suggest you're post count cleared.

You say you haven't been here for 2 days and that what I'm saying isn't real. You bring high count despite not being here for 2 days if anything supports the argument. So why are you thinking my argument isn't real?

Except I ask for clarification and now you pivot from saying my point isn't real to saying something else.

It feels like you're just trying to shift your perspective to qualify a reason to start pushing me. And Neon being thrown in sounds like prepatory distancing from Neon.

Tell me more.

I see you have no valid retort.

That isn't what's going on, I'm just not going to engage with you when you aren't doing so in a reasonable manner from my POV.

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

[Kate]

Lmfao this game is trash

Why you gotta say this so much about every game?

Cause it's true *shrugs*

Just to clarify not the set up or the flavor or whatever.

Just mafia. Mafia is trash. I love it and it's trash it makes me feel stupid.

It makes all of us feel stupid sometimes and it makes all of feel wicked smart sometimes. You're not stupid, none if us are or we wouldn't be playing. You are obviously not stupid. Remember your role description in Meta? I meant that.

*shrugs* I haven't had a good game in like 3 months

you dont need to win to have a good game.
You’ve had lots of good games.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall please come talk to me.

Yes?

Who is bad here?

I'm not super sure who is but I think Porscha, TSP, yourself and SVS isn't.

I'd say like Dennis is maybe a bit townier than the other 3. Then those 3 are all virtually equal in my mind right now.

Mac, you're treating me like you treated Fext in Lost in Space.

This means nothing to me and feels reachy and manipulative.

If it means nothing to you, why does it feel reachy and manipulative? Shouldn't it feel nothing?

You can't help but notice how I'm town, but you kinda want to push here anyways.

It means nothing because I don't know what it means because I don't remember how I treated Fext in that game.

It feels reachy because I am aware I'm not a wolf ergo not doing what you're accusing me of.

It feels manipulative because it feels like you're trying to reason with town me while pushing me as a wolf.

The bottom paragraph feels like you projecting what you are doing onto me as a lazy suspicion.

[MacDougall]

Me being one of the top poster says more about people like you and Neon than it does about me.

This is a non sequitor that doesn't address my point whatsoever.

I suggest you're post count cleared.

You say you haven't been here for 2 days and that what I'm saying isn't real. You bring high count despite not being here for 2 days if anything supports the argument. So why are you thinking my argument isn't real?

Except I ask for clarification and now you pivot from saying my point isn't real to saying something else.

It feels like you're just trying to shift your perspective to qualify a reason to start pushing me. And Neon being thrown in sounds like prepatory distancing from Neon.

Tell me more.

I see you have no valid retort.

That isn't what's going on, I'm just not going to engage with you when you aren't doing so in a reasonable manner from my POV.

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

[Seanzie]

Yes?

Who is bad here?

I'm not super sure who is but I think Porscha, TSP, yourself and SVS isn't.

I'd say like Dennis is maybe a bit townier than the other 3. Then those 3 are all virtually equal in my mind right now.

Mac, you're treating me like you treated Fext in Lost in Space.

This means nothing to me and feels reachy and manipulative.

If it means nothing to you, why does it feel reachy and manipulative? Shouldn't it feel nothing?

You can't help but notice how I'm town, but you kinda want to push here anyways.

It means nothing because I don't know what it means because I don't remember how I treated Fext in that game.

It feels reachy because I am aware I'm not a wolf ergo not doing what you're accusing me of.

It feels manipulative because it feels like you're trying to reason with town me while pushing me as a wolf.

The bottom paragraph feels like you projecting what you are doing onto me as a lazy suspicion.

Mac's a wolf

Mac's a wooooooolllllfffffff

WoOoOoOoOoOoOollllllLLllLf

Soz dude.

[MacDougall]

If you say so.

[Seanzie]

This is a non sequitor that doesn't address my point whatsoever.

I suggest you're post count cleared.

You say you haven't been here for 2 days and that what I'm saying isn't real. You bring high count despite not being here for 2 days if anything supports the argument. So why are you thinking my argument isn't real?

Except I ask for clarification and now you pivot from saying my point isn't real to saying something else.

It feels like you're just trying to shift your perspective to qualify a reason to start pushing me. And Neon being thrown in sounds like prepatory distancing from Neon.

Tell me more.

I see you have no valid retort.

That isn't what's going on, I'm just not going to engage with you when you aren't doing so in a reasonable manner from my POV.

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

[Seanzie]

If you say so.

Did you notice my 48 hour mostly-absence? Do you know why it was?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Good luck town

Legacy is like kill Kate cause they don't have actual reasons to push anyone

Maybe Dennis too

I think SVS is just getting snowed

I don't actually have a town core cause everyone is making me feel like they are wolfing at various points so... game state sucks and I can't play without a town core

@Kate why don't you have reasons to push anyone?

@S~V~S is there any chance whatsoever you are being snowed?

Neon what if I was to tell you that SVS and Kate are mechanically cleared ie. I have mech to say they are both town. And Porscha is obviously town.

That gives you a towncore as long as you trust me. Is that a reasonable towncore for you to work with?

That's helpful yes

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Unvote

[Seanzie]

Mac?

[Seanzie]

Maaaaaaaaacccc?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Lmfao this game is trash

Why you gotta say this so much about every game?

Cause it's true *shrugs*

Just to clarify not the set up or the flavor or whatever.

Just mafia. Mafia is trash. I love it and it's trash it makes me feel stupid.

It makes all of us feel stupid sometimes and it makes all of feel wicked smart sometimes. You're not stupid, none if us are or we wouldn't be playing. You are obviously not stupid. Remember your role description in Meta? I meant that.

*shrugs* I haven't had a good game in like 3 months

you dont need to win to have a good game.
You’ve had lots of good games.

I mean I know that I don't need to win to have a good game it's just also true I just haven't.

The best thing I've done in the past 3 months was snap voting in exelo in champs practice after throwing all game and I died anyways and we lost

[Seanzie]

You're my favorite, come and play.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac is town like wut

[Seanzie]

Mac is town like wut

Tell me more.

[Kate]

Who is bad here?

I'm not super sure who is but I think Porscha, TSP, yourself and SVS isn't.

I'd say like Dennis is maybe a bit townier than the other 3. Then those 3 are all virtually equal in my mind right now.

Mac, you're treating me like you treated Fext in Lost in Space.

This means nothing to me and feels reachy and manipulative.

If it means nothing to you, why does it feel reachy and manipulative? Shouldn't it feel nothing?

You can't help but notice how I'm town, but you kinda want to push here anyways.

It means nothing because I don't know what it means because I don't remember how I treated Fext in that game.

It feels reachy because I am aware I'm not a wolf ergo not doing what you're accusing me of.

It feels manipulative because it feels like you're trying to reason with town me while pushing me as a wolf.

The bottom paragraph feels like you projecting what you are doing onto me as a lazy suspicion.

Mac's a wolf

Mac's a wooooooolllllfffffff

WoOoOoOoOoOoOollllllLLllLf

Soz dude.

What are you trying to say?

[MacDougall]

Sorry Seanzie I was just in the shower.

(Frozen and crying in wolfchat cuz ur case is so awesome and I will never recover).

[MacDougall]

Tell me more.

I see you have no valid retort.

That isn't what's going on, I'm just not going to engage with you when you aren't doing so in a reasonable manner from my POV.

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac is town like wut

Tell me more.

I mean like... maybe read the post that caused me to unvote.

Mac is town lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac I'll sheep you

Even if you vote me

My view of the game is ass and my vote is yours

[MacDougall]

Gotta get my kids ready for school. Back later.

[MacDougall]

Mac I'll sheep you

Even if you vote me

My view of the game is ass and my vote is yours

Even if I do decide to vote you, you aren't allowed to self vote k?

[MacDougall]

But I've given you a small POE from your perspective so you should be able to at least do some solving. How did each of them handle the Pyxxy wagon?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac I'll sheep you

Even if you vote me

My view of the game is ass and my vote is yours

Even if I do decide to vote you, you aren't allowed to self vote k?

Kay

[Seanzie]

I see you have no valid retort.

That isn't what's going on, I'm just not going to engage with you when you aren't doing so in a reasonable manner from my POV.

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

This does not align with how mafia actually works.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

But I've given you a small POE from your perspective so you should be able to at least do some solving. How did each of them handle the Pyxxy wagon?

I... honestly don't know. I know like I pushed Pyxxy for 2 days which is in my wolf meta so meh.

I don't really like isoing I feel like I play worse when I do it but I am interested in both how they treated Pyxxy and how they treated WWA who I had a hard TR on basically all game and I don't get why like nobody else saw what I saw.

[Seanzie]

I'm not super sure who is but I think Porscha, TSP, yourself and SVS isn't.

I'd say like Dennis is maybe a bit townier than the other 3. Then those 3 are all virtually equal in my mind right now.

Mac, you're treating me like you treated Fext in Lost in Space.

This means nothing to me and feels reachy and manipulative.

If it means nothing to you, why does it feel reachy and manipulative? Shouldn't it feel nothing?

You can't help but notice how I'm town, but you kinda want to push here anyways.

It means nothing because I don't know what it means because I don't remember how I treated Fext in that game.

It feels reachy because I am aware I'm not a wolf ergo not doing what you're accusing me of.

It feels manipulative because it feels like you're trying to reason with town me while pushing me as a wolf.

The bottom paragraph feels like you projecting what you are doing onto me as a lazy suspicion.

Mac's a wolf

Mac's a wooooooolllllfffffff

WoOoOoOoOoOoOollllllLLllLf

Soz dude.

What are you trying to say?

[MacDougall]

That isn't what's going on, I'm just not going to engage with you when you aren't doing so in a reasonable manner from my POV.

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

This does not align with how mafia actually works.

Your argument is trash, possibly the worst attempt to push me I've ever seen. I respect you as a player less now because of it and am struggling to take it seriously because of how utterly ridiculous it is. It is so bad it loops back around to good because it's like satire. And I'm a fan of good satire. If you're serious with this push as town, you are washed. If you think this push will work and are wolf, you are washed. If you are drunk and just talking shit I'll headpat you. Your family are disappointed in you.

[MacDougall]

But I've given you a small POE from your perspective so you should be able to at least do some solving. How did each of them handle the Pyxxy wagon?

I... honestly don't know. I know like I pushed Pyxxy for 2 days which is in my wolf meta so meh.

I don't really like isoing I feel like I play worse when I do it but I am interested in both how they treated Pyxxy and how they treated WWA who I had a hard TR on basically all game and I don't get why like nobody else saw what I saw.

So satisfy your curiosity and go read some posts and make some reads.

[MacDougall]

Hey team I've got Seanzie's long lost cousin Beatrice on the line and she says Seanzie's push on Mac sucks.

I guess that settles it.

[Seanzie]

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

This does not align with how mafia actually works.

Your argument is trash, possibly the worst attempt to push me I've ever seen. I respect you as a player less now because of it and am struggling to take it seriously because of how utterly ridiculous it is. It is so bad it loops back around to good because it's like satire. And I'm a fan of good satire. If you're serious with this push as town, you are washed. If you think this push will work and are wolf, you are washed. If you are drunk and just talking shit I'll headpat you. Your family are disappointed in you.

Dude, I don't know what your problem is, but posts like this really aren't okay.

[Kate]

@everyone else

Do I seem like I'm being unreasonable?

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

This does not align with how mafia actually works.

Your argument is trash, possibly the worst attempt to push me I've ever seen. I respect you as a player less now because of it and am struggling to take it seriously because of how utterly ridiculous it is. It is so bad it loops back around to good because it's like satire. And I'm a fan of good satire. If you're serious with this push as town, you are washed. If you think this push will work and are wolf, you are washed. If you are drunk and just talking shit I'll headpat you. Your family are disappointed in you.

*slow clap*

[Kate]

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

This does not align with how mafia actually works.

Your argument is trash, possibly the worst attempt to push me I've ever seen. I respect you as a player less now because of it and am struggling to take it seriously because of how utterly ridiculous it is. It is so bad it loops back around to good because it's like satire. And I'm a fan of good satire. If you're serious with this push as town, you are washed. If you think this push will work and are wolf, you are washed. If you are drunk and just talking shit I'll headpat you. Your family are disappointed in you.

Dude, I don't know what your problem is, but posts like this really aren't okay.

I'm sorry you're totally right, but it was pretty funny.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Are we all forgetting wilgy exists too?

Answer: yes.

Yes

Can you do anything to help at all. You know ily but this is getting a little old.

Yes

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Early vote on Pyx D2

But no, the actual conclusion is that there is one in Mac/TSP and that there's at least one in Pyxxy/Seanzie/WWA. Perhaps Seanzie as that'd make them the wolf on both d1 and d2 town flips.

There's an outlier in Kate/Porscha that should be addressed as well.

...

yes

Oh, I miscounted, I have 17 left.

PoE is:
TSP/Mac, Sean/Pyxxy/WWA, Kate/Porscha/SVS

A poe of like... everyone in the game lol on D3 I think this was. Can't like argue with it cause I am having this issue.

Yeah this is town and frustrated Porscha.

I do think Pyxxy is a hit but I think you are way off base with Porscha. This firey response from Porscha is something I strongly associate with her town game not her scum game. I don't know Porscha is kinda polarized...

I'm starting to agree with you after her string of replies
Willing to back off for a bit cause i think she's doing good stuff now

Yes

I ... don't know which part Wilgy was agreeing with or if it was all of it


That's it that's all the mentions of either WWA or Pyx.

It seems like Wilgy wanted to go after Pyxxy but never fully committed to it at any point but it's hard to judge with the gimmick and shit. I do now Wilgys absence following Pyxxys death.

I think at this point I'm going to say this might be distancing? I don't feel like Wilgz actually really wanted Pyxxy to go over.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I hate isoing

[MacDougall]

Don't want to go toe-to-toe with me?

I am asking others to validate your point in case it's fair and I need to be more reasonable.

I impolitely disagree. I think you're trying to use your threadpull to win this argument and shade me.

If you say so.

If your argument is good and I'm being unreasonable you have nothing to worry about though.

This does not align with how mafia actually works.

Your argument is trash, possibly the worst attempt to push me I've ever seen. I respect you as a player less now because of it and am struggling to take it seriously because of how utterly ridiculous it is. It is so bad it loops back around to good because it's like satire. And I'm a fan of good satire. If you're serious with this push as town, you are washed. If you think this push will work and are wolf, you are washed. If you are drunk and just talking shit I'll headpat you. Your family are disappointed in you.

Dude, I don't know what your problem is, but posts like this really aren't okay.

Sorry I thought you were wanting me to make it.

I was being reasonable and respectful to your points and answering fair and clear. I figured you were looking for aggression or some dumb shit.

[MacDougall]

ie. I didn't mean any of it I thought it was obvious sarcasm. Sorry if I offended you.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm playing with the idea of a pyxxy/Porscha/svs team right now and I don't really care if anyone agrees with me

I've got graet news this team is impossible

Hmm. Well I mean this isn't wrong probably...

Ok I’ll chop Pyxxy at this point for annoying me

Hmmmmm...

That's like every TSP post on Pyx before today...I don't even know what to say. I hate it lol.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm not like doing a deep dive but Islington TSP for Wind, WWA or WindwardAway returns like 3 results...

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Meh

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@MacDougall

Can it be TSP and Wilgy?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm gonna go eat. I don't want to look at Seanzie's iso lol

[DrWilgy]

Are we all forgetting wilgy exists too?

Answer: yes.

Yes

Can you do anything to help at all. You know ily but this is getting a little old.

Yes

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Early vote on Pyx D2

But no, the actual conclusion is that there is one in Mac/TSP and that there's at least one in Pyxxy/Seanzie/WWA. Perhaps Seanzie as that'd make them the wolf on both d1 and d2 town flips.

There's an outlier in Kate/Porscha that should be addressed as well.

...

yes

Oh, I miscounted, I have 17 left.

PoE is:
TSP/Mac, Sean/Pyxxy/WWA, Kate/Porscha/SVS

A poe of like... everyone in the game lol on D3 I think this was. Can't like argue with it cause I am having this issue.

Yeah this is town and frustrated Porscha.

I do think Pyxxy is a hit but I think you are way off base with Porscha. This firey response from Porscha is something I strongly associate with her town game not her scum game. I don't know Porscha is kinda polarized...

I'm starting to agree with you after her string of replies
Willing to back off for a bit cause i think she's doing good stuff now

Yes

I ... don't know which part Wilgy was agreeing with or if it was all of it


That's it that's all the mentions of either WWA or Pyx.

It seems like Wilgy wanted to go after Pyxxy but never fully committed to it at any point but it's hard to judge with the gimmick and shit. I do now Wilgys absence following Pyxxys death.

I think at this point I'm going to say this might be distancing? I don't feel like Wilgz actually really wanted Pyxxy to go over.

I did, pyxxy was a welcome yeet that I never had objection to. They very much felt akin to their last wolf game. They fit into a solve that made sense.

[DrWilgy]

As I wasn't saying much besides yes or no, and had a vote. I'd advise taking my votes as the best way to express my previous suspicions.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall

Can it be TSP and Wilgy?

TSP has voted Wilgy a lot. Still is. Voted him yesterday.

I don't think so. If it is then they are already playing for f3 which doesn't make much sense.

[DrWilgy]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I'm gonna go eat. I don't want to look at Seanzie's iso lol

Why not?

[MacDougall]

Now that we've solved the one I saw in Pyxxy, Sean, WWA, we should solve the one in Mac/TSP.

It's just TSP like 90% of the time.

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Explain how TSP/Mac is a dichotomy plz.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm gonna go eat. I don't want to look at Seanzie's iso lol

Why not?

Cause it's a lot of posts and I despise isoing