Season 10 Champs Practice Game [END - MAFIA WIN]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Am I badly misreading the setup ??

[RondoDimBuckle]

Wait, wind, you claim to know the exact setup right? So your “town pr role” must be unique to the “adapt 6”

Meaning ur role would be a “unique town pr” and not a duplicate in other columns.

Which means if no one cc’s u, ur just clear then lol

I dont think youve noticed but I have already CCed anyone claiming a role this game

[WindwardAway]

currently at WWA + Nook + Tutuu

Meaning

Town?

Dennis - Sure, in town range
DrWilgy - Dunno
falcon45ca - Town range but hasnt obv towned yet
Kate - Dont even remember reading any of her posts
Lilypetal - Can be in town range but not feeling it
lucy - Sure, in town range
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon - Maybe the Sabi / Lucy / Neon blow out was just fanned on by tutuu?
Porscha - Hrmmm, obv town? Maybe, Town for now
pyxxy - Town if WWA flips wolf but likely town for making me laugh
RondoDimBuckle - 3p but my wincon can work with town
Sabiplz - see Neon
Seanzie - Town lol
tutuu -
WindwardAway

I will flip town and I will do my best to eat the night kill in this game

Then why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.

I'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.

A) No you're not. I know this
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me

OK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.

...how do you know this?

OK look at the Protect setup column
Look at the town roles
Look at the scum role
Look at the other columns and tell me if there is a unique role in the Protect column
If your answer is 'no' then you aren't reading correctly.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I will flip town and I will do my best to eat the night kill in this game

Then why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.

I'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.

A) No you're not. I know this
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me

OK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.

...how do you know this?

OK look at the Protect setup column
Look at the town roles
Look at the scum role
Look at the other columns and tell me if there is a unique role in the Protect column
If your answer is 'no' then you aren't reading correctly.

Both town roles show up in another column tho

So unless you're claiming mafia jk you're wrong lmao

[WindwardAway]

Am I badly misreading the setup ??

Yes... Yes you are

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Idk how to unvote on this forum

[arogame123]

Hello All! Glad to be here!

I haven’t read much of the game but see my predecessor is in a spot that I am very accustomed to being as well

If the people voting me could respond to this with a tldr of why they sr my slot that would be much appreciated.

I am town and I’ll do my best to get out of this position hehe!

Your slot looks partnered with Tutuu to me. I voted lucy because the AtE was so excessive I thought it exceeded what she would authentically feel like posting. It felt like she was just performatively AtEing either to ruin thread or distance or mby both

Content was okay up to that point but in retrospect it's p damn pockety

Lol, it’s funny bc based on how wind was talking about tuutu, it seemed like to me they could be mafia given how they voted on wind with the sheep vote and with how wind pushed on them prior. But I’m going to look at it more in depth and give my thoughts there.

And I can see how it’s “pocketty” given the tr on your slot and others like Porscha/Kate lol. I thought it was funny when reading it as well bc it reminds me how I give my townreads. I don’t care how the others think it comes across lol.

And I think your vote on Lucy for the ATE is fair and is something I’ve seen you do to Lucy in the past like the league game, da bois, etc. so that’s a “valid” reason based on AtE. So that’s reasonable to me.

However, given my presence and hopefully what I can bring to the table, are you mailable to changing your mind despite my predecessor’s actions?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: windward] aubergine subject to change but I think...this might just be a slip?

[WindwardAway]

Then why do I have 2 lists and you have 0. I havent even checked your ISO but I know you havent done any actual solving. Just poking. If you want to eat the night kill you have to be town leader. If you want to be town leader you have to rally town with your solving. If you want to rally town, you actually have to do solving. Ergo. This is a lie.

I'm a town PR, lay off me. I'll get killed anyway.

A) No you're not. I know this
B) I am voting Nook you're coming next
C) No I will not lay off anyone. Ask anyone who knows me

OK well, fine but mafia has a jailkeeper in this game. Have fun with the TMI from me.

...how do you know this?

OK look at the Protect setup column
Look at the town roles
Look at the scum role
Look at the other columns and tell me if there is a unique role in the Protect column
If your answer is 'no' then you aren't reading correctly.

Both town roles show up in another column tho

So unless you're claiming mafia jk you're wrong lmao

Well fuck
You're reading correctly and I'm reading it wrong, actually
Can you believe I've been playing this entire time on my phone and I never bothered to scroll all the way to the right cause I didn't realize there was another setup

[WindwardAway]

Doesn't matter, I'll claim now because I'm stupid and now I've definitely made my role obvious to mafia
I'm an even-night jailkeeper

[RondoDimBuckle]

And that might “spew” Seanzie as town if falcon or tuutu is mafia just blindly following seanzie’s vote on u bc they “town read” him and not because they scum read you lol.

Imma look at tuutu later as well.

then what about nanook sheeping porscha?

[Lilypetal]

Hello All! Glad to be here!

I haven’t read much of the game but see my predecessor is in a spot that I am very accustomed to being as well

If the people voting me could respond to this with a tldr of why they sr my slot that would be much appreciated.

I am town and I’ll do my best to get out of this position hehe!

Your slot looks partnered with Tutuu to me. I voted lucy because the AtE was so excessive I thought it exceeded what she would authentically feel like posting. It felt like she was just performatively AtEing either to ruin thread or distance or mby both

Content was okay up to that point but in retrospect it's p damn pockety

Lol, it’s funny bc based on how wind was talking about tuutu, it seemed like to me they could be mafia given how they voted on wind with the sheep vote and with how wind pushed on them prior. But I’m going to look at it more in depth and give my thoughts there.

And I can see how it’s “pocketty” given the tr on your slot and others like Porscha/Kate lol. I thought it was funny when reading it as well bc it reminds me how I give my townreads. I don’t care how the others think it comes across lol.

And I think your vote on Lucy for the ATE is fair and is something I’ve seen you do to Lucy in the past like the league game, da bois, etc. so that’s a “valid” reason based on AtE. So that’s reasonable to me.

However, given my presence and hopefully what I can bring to the table, are you mailable to changing your mind despite my predecessor’s actions?

I mean yeah. I will say my sus of Lucy whenever she AtEs is partially emotional so I know I can be wrong. I think I'm good at reading you (hehe found u as a wolf in that mash) so I'll unvote and let u do ur thing for now out of respect

[VOTE: sleep] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Wait, wind, you claim to know the exact setup right? So your “town pr role” must be unique to the “adapt 6”

Meaning ur role would be a “unique town pr” and not a duplicate in other columns.

Which means if no one cc’s u, ur just clear then lol

Generic "town PR" claims in semi-open setups only go so far. I'll think on it, but right now I don't really believe WindwardAway, and I don't think them self-resolving any time soon is as guaranteed as you say.

In particular, mafia knows the setup, so they are much more easily able to find potential weaknesses. One I see is that in the Track column, the Mafia 1-shot tracker can more-or-less always fakeclaim as a town even-night vanilla cop, since town cannot tell if they're in Track or Analyze until they see the flip of a Mafia PR or the vanilla cop (theoretically this could out WWA if they are the last mafia standing, but this is a small world, and idk WWA enough to know if they'd be worried about being last-mafia-standing at this point).

I will think on it, but right now, I don't like WWA's claim, and I don't think ignoring them is as beneficial as you seem to make it out to be.

[arogame123]

Lol, you might have to full claim then wind but that’s up to how others feel pending the heat you take in thread I suppose.

But if ur role isn’t a “unique” role then it might be best to full claim it if you’re in danger.

I still think you should self resolve tbh and I don’t read much into the “slip” because misreading is also a thing.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.

Secondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie can you talk to me about why you sr wind and why you’d want to kill wind today despite them claiming a town pr?

Letting them self resolve is +ev

Well if that don't put a whole load of words in my mouth.

[Lilypetal]

Oh yeah just putting this out here my flight is tomorrow and I'll be busy most of the day and flying during eod so when I finish posting tn don't expect me to post again

[WindwardAway]

Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.

Secondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?

When was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

[arogame123]

@Seanzie can you talk to me about why you sr wind and why you’d want to kill wind today despite them claiming a town pr?

Letting them self resolve is +ev

Well if that don't put a whole load of words in my mouth.

Lol, I’m just asking why u sr wind and I saw u voted them. I had assumed wind had claimed pr a while ago and u saw it, but then wind corrected me and explained the situation that she just recently claimed.

[WindwardAway]

Lol, you might have to full claim then wind but that’s up to how others feel pending the heat you take in thread I suppose.

But if ur role isn’t a “unique” role then it might be best to full claim it if you’re in danger.

I still think you should self resolve tbh and I don’t read much into the “slip” because misreading is also a thing.

Honestly ill take the shit for that mistake, it's on me, but I claimed jailkeeper up above. I don't know if we have a mafia jailkeeper or roleblocker now, I was trying to cover for the doctor that I assumed we had, since I can't act tonight and mafia would rather kill the doctor first if I had openly claimed jailkeeper, but now that it's clear we don't actually know which setup this is, it doesn't matter so much.

[Seanzie]

Wait, wind, you claim to know the exact setup right? So your “town pr role” must be unique to the “adapt 6”

Meaning ur role would be a “unique town pr” and not a duplicate in other columns.

Which means if no one cc’s u, ur just clear then lol

There uhh... aren't any of those.

There are

Name one. The setup I'm seeing, every town PR shows up in exactly two columns.

Town Odd Night Tracker - Analyze and Track

Town Even Night Vanilla Cop - Analyze and All-round

Town 2-shot Doctor - Analyze and Track

Town Jack of All Trades - Deter and All-round

Town 2-shot Roleblocker - Deter and Block

Town Odd Night Doctor - Deter and Protect

Town Even Night Jailkeeper - Protect and Block

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

[arogame123]

And that might “spew” Seanzie as town if falcon or tuutu is mafia just blindly following seanzie’s vote on u bc they “town read” him and not because they scum read you lol.

Imma look at tuutu later as well.

then what about nanook sheeping porscha?

I mean i town read both Nanook and Porscha. Context is key.

Wind is a potential leading wagon. Nanook/Porscha seem to work together and bounce around their thoughts from what I saw on brief skim

[WindwardAway]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

Can't wait for you guys to vote me out, watch me flip even-night jk, and then flip a roleblocker because of my own stupidity

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.

Secondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?

When was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.

So.... let me recap....

You thought Rondo is town
You see Rondo voting Nook wolf
You join Rondo town because Nook wolf

Now you are telling me you want to lie low

You say Nook is not wolf?

[WindwardAway]

Well I guess I'll just stay out of the thread and go to sleep, I have no defense for this because I legit did not scroll to the right

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

[WindwardAway]

Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.

Secondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?

When was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.

So.... let me recap....

You thought Rondo is town
You see Rondo voting Nook wolf
You join Rondo town because Nook wolf

Now you are telling me you want to lie low

You say Nook is not wolf?

Nook is not a main wagon, though?? Also you say Nook is a wolf but if you're town then you still have a chance at being wrong
Cause Nook's gotcha on me actually looks towny and I'm not going to explain why

[RondoDimBuckle]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

I am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

@falcon45ca

[arogame123]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

I mean I could see how they misread it. But given their claim, I’m just going to wait out and see if there are any cc’s or not.

If not, then they’re prolly clear.

[WindwardAway]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also, nowhere did I ever say I wanted to rally town?? I was trying to lie low for good reason but if I need to just die in order to be cleared then that works too.

Secondarily if you were trying to lie low why would you want to be on main wagon on a wolf?

When was I on a main wagon on a wolf? Do you know something I don't? Cause if you do, just tell me and I'll vote them out.

So.... let me recap....

You thought Rondo is town
You see Rondo voting Nook wolf
You join Rondo town because Nook wolf

Now you are telling me you want to lie low

You say Nook is not wolf?

Nook is not a main wagon, though?? Also you say Nook is a wolf but if you're town then you still have a chance at being wrong
Cause Nook's gotcha on me actually looks towny and I'm not going to explain why

weird that it looks towny and not scum that is opportunistic when you are a power role and nook is someone you scum read with me just moments ago?

[arogame123]

Well I guess I'll just stay out of the thread and go to sleep, I have no defense for this because I legit did not scroll to the right

I believe this tbh.

[arogame123]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Meh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Because your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.

In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.

[WindwardAway]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

I am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?

Why would that ever be a town slip from me? I didn't say "we are in protect because I'm a jailkeeper", I said "mafia has a jailkeeper" which implies I'm confident that mafia has a jailkeeper and only a jailkeeper. That would be a scum slip if mafia does, in fact, have a jailkeeper. If I only said "I think we are in the protect setup where mafia has a jailkeeper" then yeah it could imply I'm either a doctor or jailkeeper. But I didn't say that, because I'm an idiot and I don't think about wording before I open my mouth.

[WindwardAway]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Because your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.

In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.

I'm pretty sure Rondo already cc'd me but I think he's town

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Meh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.

You, Nook and Wilgy are the only people on my mind right now. Your slot both has super high wolf equity, and also should give some spew, so your slot is not a bad chop.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

I am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?

Why would that ever be a town slip from me? I didn't say "we are in protect because I'm a jailkeeper", I said "mafia has a jailkeeper" which implies I'm confident that mafia has a jailkeeper and only a jailkeeper. That would be a scum slip if mafia does, in fact, have a jailkeeper. If I only said "I think we are in the protect setup where mafia has a jailkeeper" then yeah it could imply I'm either a doctor or jailkeeper. But I didn't say that, because I'm an idiot and I don't think about wording before I open my mouth.

You really are new to Mafia arent you?

[arogame123]

I am getting a feeling, but I believe wind tbh and fully think they are actually town and the way they talked about it seems townie to me and not a way how mafia fakes it given the last setup is on the right and how I’m on mobile too.

I believe that rondo is leaning town and have nook as town. If Seanzie is town, I’m afraid this is a “mafia laid back game” where the mafia are essentially just knawing at these player’s scum reads on town and just hop on it opportunistically.

That’s my gut feeling based on the vibe in this thread ngl.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Because your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.

In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.

I'm pretty sure Rondo already cc'd me but I think he's town

Someone CC'ing an unclaimed PR as an unclaimed PR does nothing for me.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Because your claim is CC'able by a single role and I don't think it benefits a wolf to go 1-1 like this with a town PR.

In particular IF ANYONE is a town PR that is NOT Odd night doc or 2-shot roleblocker, you can CC WindwardAway.

I'm pretty sure Rondo already cc'd me but I think he's town

I did CC you but I always CC everyone soooooo its probably a lie

[arogame123]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Meh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.

You, Nook and Wilgy are the only people on my mind right now. Your slot both has super high wolf equity, and also should give some spew, so your slot is not a bad chop.

Can u explain Wilgy for me?

And why Nook as well?

also, when I flip town, what “spew” does my slot give that will help you? I’d be interested to hear how it changes ur view of the game.

[WindwardAway]

Obviously you think we're in protect but both the town roles there show up in another column too

Is this just tmi from mafia that didn't read the setup closely enough? Am I insane?

lolololol

I mean am I wrong, that's a slip isn't it?

I am just interested why you think its a scum slip and not a town slip? Why could I not be lying about my claim?

Why would that ever be a town slip from me? I didn't say "we are in protect because I'm a jailkeeper", I said "mafia has a jailkeeper" which implies I'm confident that mafia has a jailkeeper and only a jailkeeper. That would be a scum slip if mafia does, in fact, have a jailkeeper. If I only said "I think we are in the protect setup where mafia has a jailkeeper" then yeah it could imply I'm either a doctor or jailkeeper. But I didn't say that, because I'm an idiot and I don't think about wording before I open my mouth.

You really are new to Mafia arent you?

I'm not
And we're not doing the "town can't read the setup properly" thing
I lied, I knew the block setup was also a thing before the game started, like when I read the champs setup maybe a week ago, but i just completely forgot about it after that

[WindwardAway]

I am getting a feeling, but I believe wind tbh and fully think they are actually town and the way they talked about it seems townie to me and not a way how mafia fakes it given the last setup is on the right and how I’m on mobile too.

I believe that rondo is leaning town and have nook as town. If Seanzie is town, I’m afraid this is a “mafia laid back game” where the mafia are essentially just knawing at these player’s scum reads on town and just hop on it opportunistically.

That’s my gut feeling based on the vibe in this thread ngl.

I think I said that earlier too, that if your slot + neon (and maybe even tutuu) were town then likely the scum were letting most of the drama unfold without lifting a finger
And if there was scum involved, there probably wasn't more than 1

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: arogame123] aubergine

Why Aro and not me?

Meh, at least it doesn’t kill a pr but still bad.

You, Nook and Wilgy are the only people on my mind right now. Your slot both has super high wolf equity, and also should give some spew, so your slot is not a bad chop.

Can u explain Wilgy for me?

And why Nook as well?

also, when I flip town, what “spew” does my slot give that will help you? I’d be interested to hear how it changes ur view of the game.

I don't know how it will change my view, but Lucy was a hot topic of conversation, and I'm sure there is some info that one could gleam after knowing your alignment from those conversations. I'm not going to do the work now, I actually am way over quota for today and need to not be playing mafia anymore today.

Wilgy has given me bad vibes, and someone had a take that resonated with me, but idr who anymore. I'd have to look, but see re: need to not be playing anymore today.

Nook is doing lazy wolf!Nook things, and their "is this not just a scumslip" looks wolfy af. They could still be town, but they strike me as wolf here.

[arogame123]

what differentiates lazy Nook as mafia vs lazy nook as town?

I’ve seen Nook more laid back and trolly as town more often than not.

[Porscha]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME sorry daddy I dont actually expect my vote to stay on pyxxy

Probs still best to flip aro

Why do you want to flip a town slot by pinging a wolf?

Can you stop talking to me like I believe your perception is the unwaveringly correct answer to all of life's problems? Thanks.