Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Guillotine]

I'm not going to engage with wolf reads on me going forward. I'll try at least. It's kind of cringe when it gets to this point. But please do not tell me I'm lying about how I am or how I play. I know who I am. That is what is tilting.

I feel you 100% on this.

Tutuu is also completely right though. 8 years of mafia, and I still get tilted lol

It doesn't even matter. We should win anyway. And I signed up for this game as last huzzah to mafia, and I've really enjoyed it so far, and should know better than to be a sour pusy now

Do not worry. This is my last mafia game outside my home site. The times you get frustrated with me are guaranteed to come to an end.

[Dyslexicon]

Nobody ever visits me or gives me anything nice anymore

[sig]

Here's a fun read:
S~V~S is open 3p, wolves keeping her around just to keep wagon focused on her.

You voted on said wagon that helped to keep her around

[Dyslexicon]

Do not worry. This is my last mafia game outside my home site. The times you get frustrated with me are guaranteed to come to an end.

I'm sorry for getting so pissed at you, Guillo. I know you're just playing the game.

[sig]

Also and I don’t see why everyone is so willing to just believe her claim here with no proof

And if we do believe the claim why we’re gonna let her stay alive which is in line with what the mafia want.

[EnderWiggin]

Here's a fun read:
S~V~S is open 3p, wolves keeping her around just to keep wagon focused on her.

You voted on said wagon that helped to keep her around

Yes. I'm more talking about tie rand.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: svs] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

I have my own worry though, but it will look kind of ehh now that PC is claiming I'm an outed wolf. But also

[Party Crasher]

Here's a fun read:
S~V~S is open 3p, wolves keeping her around just to keep wagon focused on her.

Galaxy brain read coming from someone who participated in the Scotty CFD and tied votes.

-t

[EnderWiggin]

Also and I don’t see why everyone is so willing to just believe her claim here with no proof

And if we do believe the claim why we’re gonna let her stay alive which is in line with what the mafia want.

I mean it defeats Mafia purpose if we then don't wagon her.

[falcon45ca]

Here's a fun read:
S~V~S is open 3p, wolves keeping her around just to keep wagon focused on her.

Galaxy brain read coming from someone who participated in the Scotty CFD and tied votes.

-t

See, tutuu' s got jokes

[sig]

Here's a fun read:
S~V~S is open 3p, wolves keeping her around just to keep wagon focused on her.

You voted on said wagon that helped to keep her around

Yes. I'm more talking about tie rand.

Ah potentially agree.

Or she’s mafia so they want to buy her another day.

And let’s be real even if she isn’t mafia

THEY JUST SAVED HER!

If I was a third party survivor who just got saved by mafia I’d be scum sided and I know SVS meta well enough to know she’d do the same so either way she isn’t pro town

[EnderWiggin]

Here's a fun read:
S~V~S is open 3p, wolves keeping her around just to keep wagon focused on her.

Galaxy brain read coming from someone who participated in the Scotty CFD and tied votes.

-t

Here's an additional bonus:

I wanted Scotty to go over and I don't care.

I think S~V~S is a non-factor here when we should be clearing out Soup wolves.

I think I have clearly outlined that I think SVS is unpaired from mafia unless lost wolf.

[sig]

I have my own worry though, but it will look kind of ehh now that PC is claiming I'm an outed wolf. But also

TuuTuu always claims people are outted when they’re not

This new generation of mafia players don’t use the term rights

[Dyslexicon]

Outside chance of scotty but I really don’t think so.

Why? I think Scotty is exactly mafia. Marmot focused a lot on him, voted him at points and interacted a lot, which he did with the other flipped wolves too (except for Alison). I remember playing a game where Scotty was mafia, I was town and we got to end game, and I was convinced Scotty was mafia, but others weren't listening and he won in FX. Please let this not be that.

Hold on lemme find the posts

I’m also not married to this high/low posting big idea.

It’s only been floated by mafia up to this point until PC

It makes a lot of sense mechanically and thematically

he has a 1-shot protection. similar to me and svs. he redirects a kill once, from himself to someone in his hood

we need to conserve posts. expect us to be very stingy with our posts. we can go until 659. if we go over 200 neon shoots our ass

-t

Interesting. I think SVs flip here will be enlightening.

I can’t expect town to have more than 1 vest

these are the ones tutuu thought were towny (not sure why but he's (supposedly) asleep so this is the brst you'll get)

~sheep

Does anyone find anything AI in these posts from Scotty? Like, why is that towny? I never understood why PC read Scotty as towny during all of last day. And if they did, then congrats. But also - TMI

Ok bye

[Golden]

Hey even when I’ve lied this game I’ve been honest about the general shape and every lie I’ve told has been with very specific intentions (fooling wolves, protecting town) but even though I know I’ve lied I hate being told I’m lying because it feels like a personal judgment.

Then you are in the wrong line of business, i have no reason to trust you ate telling the truth at face value.

You have no reason to think lies are inherently wolfy either.

You just choose to.

[Party Crasher]

Guillo is an innocent child in my eyes. He got upset at something, probably the debacle with hollowkatt, I missed if there was anything else. He ditched the game. He risked with 0 posting. He came back.

He also CC'd Mac before we had any american towns flip

He should just be an IC

-t

[S~V~S]

No we need tk rwoslve SVS today


We have no clue if she’s really 3P

If she is 3P she very clearly this last phase showed she only cares about her own survival. Which means when push comes to shove she’ll vote with mafia to win

This is a bit of a stretch, and almost sounds a bit hysterical on your part.

I have to find a number of people making AtE (and the one I had died, so I’m unlikely to meet that since Nanook said the game would not last that long). Other than that I have to be alive at games end. So yeah, if I have a chance to live I’ll take it.

Rather than worrying about 3P, you might do better to be trying to figure out who is actually bad.

There’s zero reason to assume you’re even 3P

There was a last minute coordinating effort to save you

You’re attempting to gaslight here by calling my hysterical when it’s in fact common sense

How many baddies do you think are left, that 5 people supposedly coordinated to save me?

Like I said, sounds a bit hysterical. Worried someone’s gonna take a look at you?

I have no reason to think you’re bad; indeed, iirc I was one of the people rolling their eyes at the people doubting you killed Alison.

I’ll still be here to chop eod (maybe; maybe I’ll get killed by Enders gift). But discussing who else may be bad isn’t a bad idea. Take a deep breath and a drink of water.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

@Porscha

What've you got.

[Dyslexicon]

@Porscha

What've you got.

Read on me, your resident outed wolf?

[sig]

No we need tk rwoslve SVS today


We have no clue if she’s really 3P

If she is 3P she very clearly this last phase showed she only cares about her own survival. Which means when push comes to shove she’ll vote with mafia to win

This is a bit of a stretch, and almost sounds a bit hysterical on your part.

I have to find a number of people making AtE (and the one I had died, so I’m unlikely to meet that since Nanook said the game would not last that long). Other than that I have to be alive at games end. So yeah, if I have a chance to live I’ll take it.

Rather than worrying about 3P, you might do better to be trying to figure out who is actually bad.

There’s zero reason to assume you’re even 3P

There was a last minute coordinating effort to save you

You’re attempting to gaslight here by calling my hysterical when it’s in fact common sense

How many baddies do you think are left, that 5 people supposedly coordinated to save me?

Like I said, sounds a bit hysterical. Worried someone’s gonna take a look at you?

I have no reason to think you’re bad; indeed, iirc I was one of the people rolling their eyes at the people doubting you killed Alison.

I’ll still be here to chop eod (maybe; maybe I’ll get killed by Enders gift). But discussing who else may be bad isn’t a bad idea. Take a deep breath and a drink of water.

Nope you’re likely mafia or mafia sides and need to be flipped

Since when did mafia need to have the entire wagon to coordinate a CFD? It takes one threading the flood to make it happen then people playing along. In this case 2 mafia and you + 2 town can make it happen not that hard to do.

Especially when one of those town members is gullio who isn’t really caught up

[Party Crasher]

Outside chance of scotty but I really don’t think so.

Why? I think Scotty is exactly mafia. Marmot focused a lot on him, voted him at points and interacted a lot, which he did with the other flipped wolves too (except for Alison). I remember playing a game where Scotty was mafia, I was town and we got to end game, and I was convinced Scotty was mafia, but others weren't listening and he won in FX. Please let this not be that.

Hold on lemme find the posts

I’m also not married to this high/low posting big idea.

It’s only been floated by mafia up to this point until PC

It makes a lot of sense mechanically and thematically

he has a 1-shot protection. similar to me and svs. he redirects a kill once, from himself to someone in his hood

we need to conserve posts. expect us to be very stingy with our posts. we can go until 659. if we go over 200 neon shoots our ass

-t

Interesting. I think SVs flip here will be enlightening.

I can’t expect town to have more than 1 vest

these are the ones tutuu thought were towny (not sure why but he's (supposedly) asleep so this is the brst you'll get)

~sheep

Does anyone find anything AI in these posts from Scotty? Like, why is that towny? I never understood why PC read Scotty as towny during all of last day. And if they did, then congrats. But also - TMI

Ok bye

I had a shaky townread on Scotty. I townread him based off tone. I was feeling great about my modsquad theory and I felt good that he agreed with me. It just felt towny in my gut. Sheep was suspecting him, but he is respecting my reads a lot and didn't voice it, I don't think. I didn't want to make posts in bolded big font letters for people to remain on SVS at EoD because I lacked confidence in my read. I didn't want to ruin stuff for people and then be wrong.

-t

[EnderWiggin]

@Porscha

What've you got.

Read on me, your resident outed wolf?

Furry but cuddly

[Party Crasher]

Porscha is imo town due to making posts which I personally found to come off as abrasive. She was also confidently townread on Mac. I don't have anything else to say really

-t

[Porscha]

Sorry, did you say there is 7 flipped american and kiwi roles rn? List them please.

I said that there are 6 flipped, Guillo would be the 7th one

Mac, Creature, 112 - flipped american
cape, pyxxy,

...

It would appear only 2 kiwi flipped. Me and sheep were theorizing and looks like we messed up the numbers

-t

Yes. I was certain guillo was the odd one out

[Dyslexicon]

With Guillo, we can coordinate having essentially two chops though. So we can do SVS alongside any other choice.

[EnderWiggin]

Porscha is imo town due to making posts which I personally found to come off as abrasive. She was also confidently townread on Mac. I don't have anything else to say really

-t

I'm ngl I have Porscha poe.

But waiting to see what happens next.

[Dyslexicon]

Furry but cuddly

I'm smooth as a seal bb

[Porscha]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

[Porscha]

Porscha is imo town due to making posts which I personally found to come off as abrasive. She was also confidently townread on Mac. I don't have anything else to say really

-t

I'm ngl I have Porscha poe.

But waiting to see what happens next.

Thanks for trying to suicide vest me, guy. Lol

[EnderWiggin]

Probably pop that ASAP then.

[Dyslexicon]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

[Dyslexicon]

Fuck why does mafia ruin my whole life by ruining my sleep

[EnderWiggin]

Porscha is imo town due to making posts which I personally found to come off as abrasive. She was also confidently townread on Mac. I don't have anything else to say really

-t

I'm ngl I have Porscha poe.

But waiting to see what happens next.

Thanks for trying to suicide vest me, guy. Lol

Yw.

You're one of the slots I can't call town but if you were town you generally can read the game well. So Gun or Vest would work well for you and hopefully either kill your or help me read your alignment =P

[EnderWiggin]

Fuck why does mafia ruin my whole life by ruining my sleep

Go sleep you freshly shaved wolferino.

[Porscha]

Porscha is imo town due to making posts which I personally found to come off as abrasive. She was also confidently townread on Mac. I don't have anything else to say really

-t

I'm ngl I have Porscha poe.

But waiting to see what happens next.

Thanks for trying to suicide vest me, guy. Lol

Yw.

You're one of the slots I can't call town but if you were town you generally can read the game well. So Gun or Vest would work well for you and hopefully either kill your or help me read your alignment =P

Youre lucky I cant give you gifts at night so that I could be this mean to you.

[Party Crasher]

Sloonei just exists, I don't even know what to say. Until Rondo dies I don't think that we should touch him.

sig I'm in a love and hate relationship with. I've maybe said 500 times in our hydra chat how I want him dead and how obvious wolf he is. And then I go back.

I thought that wolves lack soup kill. In that case - they're too weak. In that case - sig has to be the same role as seanzie.

But then - wolves do have soup (maybe?). If so, is sig still a wolf 2-shot vig? Is that a possible balanced design solution? I dunno I dunno the whole setup and I'm not a balancer

On the other hand, wolves having soup (if they do, and if it is potentially game ending) lends credit to the theory that sig shot Alison just to go deep and soup kill all of us. Similarly to Rondo.

On the other hand, it is pretty towny of sig to not participate in that Scotty cfd

Also, if sig is a plain old normal 1-shot vig - that doesn't fit with the other roles. Alternatively, he is an old school syndicator who seems familiar with soup kills (I'm not) and he could be lying about parts of his role, especially considering how much he jumped at me claiming I'm rolefishing. I was confused because I was assuming everyone is being completely honest when they role claim. I'm just very inexperienced with soup kills, this is the first time I've actually seen one

In addition, I'm heavily personally biased to scumread sig. I have not played a single game with sig where I have not tunneled him. It's really tough

I don't even know who to sheep. Mac was also erratic on his read on sig. I don't know what would he do in this situation

Honestly I just don't know about sig. If Dizzy is town I think sig could be mafia

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I have 3 scumreads (mafia reads) and they are Dizzy > Rondo > Sig in this order, atm

-t

[EnderWiggin]

Porscha is imo town due to making posts which I personally found to come off as abrasive. She was also confidently townread on Mac. I don't have anything else to say really

-t

I'm ngl I have Porscha poe.

But waiting to see what happens next.

Thanks for trying to suicide vest me, guy. Lol

Yw.

You're one of the slots I can't call town but if you were town you generally can read the game well. So Gun or Vest would work well for you and hopefully either kill your or help me read your alignment =P

Youre lucky I cant give you gifts at night so that I could be this mean to you.

You are welcome to be mean to me in another game. =P

[Porscha]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

[EnderWiggin]

If it helps Tutu I think Sig could be mafia too.

[EnderWiggin]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

Do you mean like a "Day killing" role or does it detect specific types?

[Party Crasher]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

I would advise you to find out whether Kiwi Vanilla Town would constitute as a killing role for the purpose of this item

If it does, I would advise you to peek Falcon

seems good

-t

[Guillotine]

Hey even when I’ve lied this game I’ve been honest about the general shape and every lie I’ve told has been with very specific intentions (fooling wolves, protecting town) but even though I know I’ve lied I hate being told I’m lying because it feels like a personal judgment.

Then you are in the wrong line of business, i have no reason to trust you ate telling the truth at face value.

You have no reason to think lies are inherently wolfy either.

You just choose to.

I never said they are, i myself do lie, my point is that you agree with Dizzy for getting butthurt for being accused of lying about their own play and relate to it and i said that if you took accusations that you are lying personal, then you are playing a game not suited for you.

[Porscha]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

Do you mean like a "Day killing" role or does it detect specific types?

It exists specifically as I have stated it. I have no other information

[EnderWiggin]

I wouldn't take most accusations lying down.

I prefer lying up.

[EnderWiggin]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

Do you mean like a "Day killing" role or does it detect specific types?

It exists specifically as I have stated it. I have no other information

It's good to know my items are as opaque as me.

[EnderWiggin]

But yes, I absolutely recommend using it asap Porscha. I doubt it'll affect the flow of the game but more info = good

[Porscha]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

I would advise you to find out whether Kiwi Vanilla Town would constitute as a killing role for the purpose of this item

If it does, I would advise you to peek Falcon

seems good

-t

I do not believe I will be answered as you believe, but I can try asking.

[Party Crasher]

@Porscha

What've you got.

I have to target a player by 2 hours before eod to see if they are a killing role or not (nks wont be detected) or else I die

What do you mean NKs can't be detected? Is it a cop thing? If so - target meeeeeee!

I am not under the impression that it's a cop of any sort.

I would advise you to find out whether Kiwi Vanilla Town would constitute as a killing role for the purpose of this item

If it does, I would advise you to peek Falcon

seems good

-t

I do not believe I will be answered as you believe, but I can try asking.

You're asking question about a flipped role - Pyxxy or Cape. It's all public information. Therefore it's all good

-t