falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:01 pm[VOTE:
scotty] aubergine
Why?
Also any other thoughts
He's been pinging me since like D1 or 2, can't recall, and I still don't see why I should TR his slot...his case against me last RD was demonstrably false, and full of either confbias or just scum pushing one of the only voices against their slot.
SVS seems a runaway wagon, and I guess it's a 3P hit from what I've read? I'm fine w/ their flip.
I don't like that it feels like the thread is sheeping Kate & Golden's read on each other...I look back at my Kate sus D1, and Golden's defense, and now it just seems like that's something they could easily work out in wolfchat so as to switch Kate's intro game up from her previous scum game.
I appreciate the thought, but I'm not remotely smart enough for that and my wolf game is so f'ing rusty.
Ya, but I've spoken with your son, and if you raised that lad then you're more than smart enough to come up with such a scheme.
I'm denying your "not smart enough" claim, and I actually find it scummy you'd even use that as a defense.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Can we afford me voting Guillo?
I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot
Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:01 pm[VOTE:
scotty] aubergine
Why?
Also any other thoughts
He's been pinging me since like D1 or 2, can't recall, and I still don't see why I should TR his slot...his case against me last RD was demonstrably false, and full of either confbias or just scum pushing one of the only voices against their slot.
SVS seems a runaway wagon, and I guess it's a 3P hit from what I've read? I'm fine w/ their flip.
I don't like that it feels like the thread is sheeping Kate & Golden's read on each other...I look back at my Kate sus D1, and Golden's defense, and now it just seems like that's something they could easily work out in wolfchat so as to switch Kate's intro game up from her previous scum game.
I appreciate the thought, but I'm not remotely smart enough for that and my wolf game is so f'ing rusty.
Yeah gotta say my reaction to that was ‘I have no defence to this theory’ lol other than that it’s wrong.
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:14 pmSomeone being cocky to get cred because they assume maf is killing scotty makes plenty of sense, I still believe.
It would be pretty funny if Scotty is actually town here, I won't deny that lol
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:24 pmIn that scenario, his mechanic is to learn who his teammates are? Is that the concept?
No, it's probably just a fake claim. I mean, could be, but most likely just fake
Hmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.
sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm
The game has slowed to the point everyone should be giving some content at this point
honestly i think the simplest solution to this game is that SVS is the last mod squad and scotty is the last soup mafia. not really much to say until that's proven / disproven.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Can we afford me voting Guillo?
I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot
Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?
This has 100% not been correct this game unless you assume neon is mafia.
Also I’ve very openly claimed it was a one and done so no reason to kill me especially since I’ve gotten low level suspicions + only what one kill since my claim? Which was Mac a universial town read
sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm
I also still want PC gone I don’t think any of their posts or reads are genuine right now and I don’t like the singular focus on Third parties while ignoring mafia.
In fact I’m baffled that nobody else seems to care about this
Counterpoint… the only reason not to townread them is actually because they are a hydra, and tutu’s reads and solvyness continues to feel town.
Countered counterpoint I don’t believe tuutuu is solving or bei my towny I think she’s trying to muddle and confuse the thread, hunt only third parties, and sow chaos to derail scum hunting
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Can we afford me voting Guillo?
I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot
Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?
This has 100% not been correct this game unless you assume neon is mafia.
Also I’ve very openly claimed it was a one and done so no reason to kill me especially since I’ve gotten low level suspicions + only what one kill since my claim? Which was Mac a universial town read
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.
Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol
sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm
The game has slowed to the point everyone should be giving some content at this point
honestly i think the simplest solution to this game is that SVS is the last mod squad and scotty is the last soup mafia. not really much to say until that's proven / disproven.
this is the most boring, but also most realistic scenario witn the worst case being dizzy/Falcon/PR as last mafia along with Scotty (if we have two)
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Can we afford me voting Guillo?
I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot
Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?
This has 100% not been correct this game unless you assume neon is mafia.
Also I’ve very openly claimed it was a one and done so no reason to kill me especially since I’ve gotten low level suspicions + only what one kill since my claim? Which was Mac a universial town read
sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm
The game has slowed to the point everyone should be giving some content at this point
honestly i think the simplest solution to this game is that SVS is the last mod squad and scotty is the last soup mafia. not really much to say until that's proven / disproven.
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.
Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol
I once long conned being a bomb that would also take out the voter/killer. I was town though, and I can’t for the life of me remember why (it was related to getting best use out of my actual role lol).
I will just say that while rondo kinda does live in the same ‘be paranoid at lylo’ space I do, I don’t really see rondo as wolf here.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Can we afford me voting Guillo?
I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot
Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?
The more pressing issue w/rt being alive is Neon tbh
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.
Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol
I once long conned being a bomb that would also take out the voter/killer. I was town though, and I can’t for the life of me remember why (it was related to getting best use out of my actual role lol).
I will just say that while rondo kinda does live in the same ‘be paranoid at lylo’ space I do, I don’t really see rondo as wolf here.
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.
Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol
I once long conned being a bomb that would also take out the voter/killer. I was town though, and I can’t for the life of me remember why (it was related to getting best use out of my actual role lol).
I will just say that while rondo kinda does live in the same ‘be paranoid at lylo’ space I do, I don’t really see rondo as wolf here.
Yep. Sad day, IIRC I was sus of JJJ's lukewarm playstyle, but didn't follow up enough due to pivoting. Golden's post does remind me of that tactic
I guess iata here if everyone but me agrees? Idk man
You can convince me it's an... attempt... at a pivot post. I think it would be weak if it legitimatally was
I dont think you could convince me its wilgy oriented specifically
And golden has done nothing with the so-called pivot and clearly seemed to be trying to think out loud when thread was dead
I would like to pump the brakes a little on this line of reasoning until I'm provided with far more reason to agree with the dissenters
I don't have to convince anything. I made an observation that indicates anti town behavior.
It's up to you to find it correct or not and react to it by means that suits your alignment.
I find it strange that rather than disagreement with said observation, you attempt to actually take away power from the observation by saying that it needs convincing.
This is semantics. I dont know if it is correct and I'm not convinced by your argument. If I said everyone but me agrees then that means I do not agree
You slank half the game away and this is what you hit me with? I'm having specific thoughts you may be 3p if you arent town
Yes, and now you are further discrediting an argument by stating it's just semantics.
Again, the part that was odd wasn't that you disagreed, but more so how you presented it. "I disagree" is very different from "you need to convince me" as one places the actionable query in a neutral state that can grow and the other places the responsibility strictly on a person who's already said their peace.
Also "hit you with"? I don't believe I've hit you with anything, and it honestly seems that you've placed a strange amount of focus and energy on both my responses to golden and my response to you further.
I'm not fond of this discourse. You provided an idea to the thread. I said I dont find the idea convincing and therefore I disagree with your idea. I welcomed you to provide more if you so wished so that maybe I could see what you could see, but that I wasnt seeing it as is. You dont need to do more, and I never demanded you do. You dont *need* to convince me - I just wont agree with you unless you do convince me. Because that's how arguments work.
I did not discredit your argument. I said I dont agree with your argument. The argument is you see parallels. I dont see them. There is *zero* discrediting being done. You accused me of not saying something I did say, and I proved it. Calling it semantics was nice of me tbh- it was just incorrect of you to accuse me of "not disagreeing" when that's exactly what I did. And the colored text plainly shows that. But isnt particularly important, so I dont mind calling it semantics and leaving it at that.
Golden is a topic of conversation and I have not placed any special attention to it, and since your responses towards me have been accusational, I respond to them. This is normal. Your responses have been weirding me out, in fact. Not because of nonsense like "placing too much focus or energy" on them, but because they feel manufactured.
Aye, the subject of "you can convince me" is still very different from "can you convince me" or "help me see what you see". The previous, again takes away while the latter helps build. Perhaps I could have stated that better.
Again, you didn't. The argument moved from disagreement when you pushed the thought back to me in a manner that doesn't necessarily promote thought growth.
I wonder if the discourse here may be in the word discredit. Perhaps disabling the arguments growth would be better way to phrase it?
Again, how does this compare to all my other content though?
Define Manufactured? I don't think I understand the argument.
Im of the opinion it isnt productive to continue on about it. I was not trying to discredit your thought -or disable the arguments growth- by stating i disagreed with it. Your thought is inherently one of parallels which is entirely controlled by perception. If my perception cant be altered, then it doesnt matter. I wont see what you see. Its fine. Ultimately, my point is that i think golden is town.
I was worried your intial posts about discrediting your argument were... intentionally made about semantics to be distracting. Thats what i meant by manufactured. Im thinking thats maybe not the case now.
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:01 pm[VOTE:
scotty] aubergine
Why?
Also any other thoughts
He's been pinging me since like D1 or 2, can't recall, and I still don't see why I should TR his slot...his case against me last RD was demonstrably false, and full of either confbias or just scum pushing one of the only voices against their slot.
SVS seems a runaway wagon, and I guess it's a 3P hit from what I've read? I'm fine w/ their flip.
I don't like that it feels like the thread is sheeping Kate & Golden's read on each other...I look back at my Kate sus D1, and Golden's defense, and now it just seems like that's something they could easily work out in wolfchat so as to switch Kate's intro game up from her previous scum game.
I appreciate the thought, but I'm not remotely smart enough for that and my wolf game is so f'ing rusty.
Ya, but I've spoken with your son, and if you raised that lad then you're more than smart enough to come up with such a scheme.
I'm denying your "not smart enough" claim, and I actually find it scummy you'd even use that as a defense.
Lol. Dennis is a freak of nature, you've got me there. Ok maybe I should have just said I'm not well practiced enough to come up with something like that. I did have a years long vacation from this game. I'm very much not wolf either way.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Can we afford me voting Guillo?
I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot
Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?
The more pressing issue w/rt being alive is Neon tbh
Neon can just kill slanks, all mafia has to do is not to slank
Wilgy shot MR who was checked out and In the POE securing himself a solid town read.
The thing is NOBODY is talking about Wilgy being the one who is the least likely to be town. Why is that? It’s since this is all such a paranoid tinfoil theory that really doesn’t fit or make sense.
Mafia don’t have the numbers to shoot each other especially with the level of kp.
See I have an early townread on Wilgy so I just don't agree
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:53 pm
Was Michelle a deperado vigilante or something?
Ender unknowingly gave her a suicide vest and she tried taking svs out with her but svs didnt die, only michelle did. So now svs claimed being a 3p with a vest that she said she didnt realize would prevent a day kill and everybody is on svs wagon now
@EnderWiggin why did you target obvious town Michelle with that?
I thought I was giving her a gun. Which I have said. Multiple times. In posts WHILE you have been active.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:53 pm
Was Michelle a deperado vigilante or something?
Ender unknowingly gave her a suicide vest and she tried taking svs out with her but svs didnt die, only michelle did. So now svs claimed being a 3p with a vest that she said she didnt realize would prevent a day kill and everybody is on svs wagon now
@EnderWiggin why did you target obvious town Michelle with that?
I thought I was giving her a gun. Which I have said. Multiple times. In posts WHILE you have been active.
Is there a point to point that out?
Oh yes! Maybe im mafia faking not seeing your posts in a game with 300 pages that i got zero interest to catch up on.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:53 pm
Was Michelle a deperado vigilante or something?
Ender unknowingly gave her a suicide vest and she tried taking svs out with her but svs didnt die, only michelle did. So now svs claimed being a 3p with a vest that she said she didnt realize would prevent a day kill and everybody is on svs wagon now
@EnderWiggin why did you target obvious town Michelle with that?
I thought I was giving her a gun. Which I have said. Multiple times. In posts WHILE you have been active.
Is there a point to point that out?
Oh yes! Maybe im mafia faking not seeing your posts in a game with 300 pages that i got zero interest to catch up on.
Not calling you mafia at all bruv.
Just irritated at repeating myself.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
