With firey svs back and this post I'm considering going with you.
@Golden thoughts?
With firey svs back and this post I'm considering going with you.
Ok I can go with killing SVS today. If they flip wolf I let you lead again.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:52 pm[VOTE: SVS] aubergineS~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:47 pmI'm addressing this to you, rather than Golden or Scotty, becasue you should know better.Spoiler: show
You're looking for Day 3 or 4 SVS here.
You couldn't handle this kind of thread in Cartomancy, yet you seem to think I won't be overwhelmed. Like I'm some sort of super person who won't freeze. Jesus Christ.
You know my game better than anyone. I need meta, and I need to find small things. Which is hard for me in this setting.
Generally I kick into gear when it's time to momma bear, when the wolves fuck with someone I care about. Then I hear that little voice in my ear telling me where to look, how to find them. It was there in the last several games, and it helped me find what I was looking for.
Other than Dennis, who was killed by another townie, I have no idea, or real connection to anyone that was killed. I think most of the people who were killed were killed by town. I haven't found anything to latch on to yet.
And also, I don't fucking know what a Lost Wolf is, it isn't a TMI thing or any other kind of stupid jargon I don't understand. I don't know what it is.
That little voice is not there, and that's OK, I should be able to work without it. And I will, but I need to be given my ground to get my feet. This whole "Oh SVS isn't on fire" or whatever else is ridiculous on Day Two.
Now I have to get in there and see what's what.
If it was up to me, I would keep my vote on Marmot, that's the closest thing to the "little thing" I need to latch onto, the thing he said to Neon. That was such a bad look for him.
But it looks like I'll have to vote to save. Of my esteemed competitors, I felt worse about Sean than Rondo, but that seemed to develop today, and I have to read the case on that.
Sorry but the bolded is a TMI slip on my alignment I think. I don't believe a town with as little foothold in the game as you have would be automatically assuming I'm a villager after having shot your top town. Reads more like TMI.
Why Seanzie? Why is he mafia? Why would he claim to be KP? Why would he claim to be strongman on top of all?
WHY. "I tried to get someone I suspect killed before. But now, that you guys have come around to it, I'm not going to, cause it's too late now!" Like what on earth are you serious. That doesn't even make sense if you're 4 years oldRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:59 pmI tried for 36 hours and no one bit. So you guys can deal with it now
Amazing summary btw. When I read it last night I was chuckling like a madmanMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:55 pm@Michelle @Master RadishesMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:14 am Allow me to summarise again.
Rondo presently has Ender lock town. Ender has had Rondo as lock mafia since essentially the game began. Rondo has mostly ignored Ender intentionally and admittedly and when I've asked why he said it's because he thinks Ender is town because as a wolf he has no benefit to locking himself into scumreading Rondo out of the gate. So he is townreading him for something Ender did at the start of the game despite Ender, someone whom Rondo should trust to have a good read on him, non stop tunneling Rondo all game.
Further Rondo stated at the beginning of day 2 when he observed Nutella start to question Ender that he actually began to suspect Ender too overnight and wanted to observe day 2 before pursuing it further. Ender's day 2 proceeded to be more non stop burial of Rondo.
The question is on probability...
Is Rondo a wolf whose behavior is that of a wolf who knows he cannot bullshit Ender who saw right through him. So he's mostly just letting Ender spin around and focusing attention elsewhere hoping nobody notices Ender is right. Who when presented with an opportunity to discredit Ender took it.
Or is he a town who lock town reads someone non stop tunneling him who has a better understanding of Rondo than anyone else in all of mafia (they are personal irl friends), who was reaction testing Nutella with the Ender push, or had temporary doubt on it, but has been persuaded to go back to lock townreading Ender after further persistent tunneling.
To me one is plainly viable and the other is ... plausible but doesn't make a great deal of sense.
I rest my case goodnight.
Wait that was a defense?nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:54 pmNahh that is silly. I think her defense is p townie and her wagon is shit and Sean/Rondo are just wolvesMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:52 pm Sorry but the bolded is a TMI slip on my alignment I think.
well I mean, chronologically... but in my head I scared you off. Disregard the Urist sus and make your own readsUrist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:56 pmno you definitely called me the wolf on your wagon AFTER i voted for SVSRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:40 pmI would like to note that Urist has moved off me after I called him the wolf on my wagon.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pmI'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?
And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?
Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
Bro he's literally the wolfiest person in the thread. His iso is garbage. He shot ilario etc etc I feel like a broken record like read some of my earlier stuff about him ffs.
As I said, this was kinda aimed at Kate who will know exactly what I mean.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:53 pmFrom my perspective, all of this is true whether you’re t! it w! SVS. And maybe there’s some truth to ‘looking for day 3 or 4 svs’ and god knows it’s not easy to play in a thread like this and be busy.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:47 pmI'm addressing this to you, rather than Golden or Scotty, becasue you should know better.Spoiler: show
You're looking for Day 3 or 4 SVS here.
You couldn't handle this kind of thread in Cartomancy, yet you seem to think I won't be overwhelmed. Like I'm some sort of super person who won't freeze. Jesus Christ.
You know my game better than anyone. I need meta, and I need to find small things. Which is hard for me in this setting.
Generally I kick into gear when it's time to momma bear, when the wolves fuck with someone I care about. Then I hear that little voice in my ear telling me where to look, how to find them. It was there in the last several games, and it helped me find what I was looking for.
Other than Dennis, who was killed by another townie, I have no idea, or real connection to anyone that was killed. I think most of the people who were killed were killed by town. I haven't found anything to latch on to yet.
And also, I don't fucking know what a Lost Wolf is, it isn't a TMI thing or any other kind of stupid jargon I don't understand. I don't know what it is.
That little voice is not there, and that's OK, I should be able to work without it. And I will, but I need to be given my ground to get my feet. This whole "Oh SVS isn't on fire" or whatever else is ridiculous on Day Two.
Now I have to get in there and see what's what.
If it was up to me, I would keep my vote on Marmot, that's the closest thing to the "little thing" I need to latch onto, the thing he said to Neon. That was such a bad look for him.
But it looks like I'll have to vote to save. Of my esteemed competitors, I felt worse about Sean than Rondo, but that seemed to develop today, and I have to read the case on that.
But what have you noticed? What townreads do you have? Who are you trusting and why?
Nahhhhhhhh that was childs play. Ender said it right before I went to bed. He thinks he has me but I had correctly Identified that Ender and you have no thread presnece. I wasnt in danger till Mac and even then I am still sitting pretty.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:56 pmMe and Ender wolf reading you and you already being a wagonRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:54 pmHow?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:22 pmSometimes things happen. Not everyone knows restraint. Besides that, I think Rondo was already at risk
I wished there were ITAs. This game feels like being trapped in the elevator with 27 people for 48 hours.
I’m not gonna make anyone else go my way but I’m fine where I am. The svs post didn’t move my needle, but in saying that there’s value in putting her in the marmot category of ‘give her more time’.
Why?
]Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:56 pmIs this supposed to be a copypasta?S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:47 pmI'm addressing this to you, rather than Golden or Scotty, becasue you should know better.Spoiler: show
You're looking for Day 3 or 4 SVS here.
You couldn't handle this kind of thread in Cartomancy, yet you seem to think I won't be overwhelmed. Like I'm some sort of super person who won't freeze. Jesus Christ.
You know my game better than anyone. I need meta, and I need to find small things. Which is hard for me in this setting.
Generally I kick into gear when it's time to momma bear, when the wolves fuck with someone I care about. Then I hear that little voice in my ear telling me where to look, how to find them. It was there in the last several games, and it helped me find what I was looking for.
Other than Dennis, who was killed by another townie, I have no idea, or real connection to anyone that was killed. I think most of the people who were killed were killed by town. I haven't found anything to latch on to yet.
And also, I don't fucking know what a Lost Wolf is, it isn't a TMI thing or any other kind of stupid jargon I don't understand. I don't know what it is.
That little voice is not there, and that's OK, I should be able to work without it. And I will, but I need to be given my ground to get my feet. This whole "Oh SVS isn't on fire" or whatever else is ridiculous on Day Two.
Now I have to get in there and see what's what.
If it was up to me, I would keep my vote on Marmot, that's the closest thing to the "little thing" I need to latch onto, the thing he said to Neon. That was such a bad look for him.
But it looks like I'll have to vote to save. Of my esteemed competitors, I felt worse about Sean than Rondo, but that seemed to develop today, and I have to read the case on that.
I don't remember why I sussed Nutella, but I know it felt real. Everyone disagreeing though kinda dissuaded me and then I saw a townie post, so I've more or less dropped it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:58 pmIt doesn't help me.
I want to know what your perspective of the game is. But that's kind of hard if you haven't read much. How serious are you about your Nut suss? Why did you decide to claim the Illario kill?
Hahaha you think I pelased with you not to vote me? I knew as soon as you started that push it was going to end with you trying to get me to CFD you (Am I using that right?) I knew it was going to end with you voting me and rallying town. Thats why It was so hilarious to me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:59 pm Thats the summary of my case that Alison described as a slapfight and said I voted Rondo because he baited me btw. I think it's pretty evidence my suspicion was based on case making not a baiting. Rondo tried to plead with me not to vote him. I have no idea how she arrived at the idea he tried to bait me.
MR has no reason to chime in and save me as wolf, especially when I am scum reading him. have town points.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:00 pmOkay this is hard for me to really absorb because I'm best with things I was involved in or was present for. Like I think I 'get' it but I also just ask 'isn't this just Rondo being Rondo'? Maybe this is uncharitable but I've already broken that seal a few posts agin - I just find Rondo does weird shit sometimes, or rather shit I just don't follow with my own brain thoughts.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:55 pm@Michelle @Master RadishesMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:14 am Allow me to summarise again.
Rondo presently has Ender lock town. Ender has had Rondo as lock mafia since essentially the game began. Rondo has mostly ignored Ender intentionally and admittedly and when I've asked why he said it's because he thinks Ender is town because as a wolf he has no benefit to locking himself into scumreading Rondo out of the gate. So he is townreading him for something Ender did at the start of the game despite Ender, someone whom Rondo should trust to have a good read on him, non stop tunneling Rondo all game.
Further Rondo stated at the beginning of day 2 when he observed Nutella start to question Ender that he actually began to suspect Ender too overnight and wanted to observe day 2 before pursuing it further. Ender's day 2 proceeded to be more non stop burial of Rondo.
The question is on probability...
Is Rondo a wolf whose behavior is that of a wolf who knows he cannot bullshit Ender who saw right through him. So he's mostly just letting Ender spin around and focusing attention elsewhere hoping nobody notices Ender is right. Who when presented with an opportunity to discredit Ender took it.
Or is he a town who lock town reads someone non stop tunneling him who has a better understanding of Rondo than anyone else in all of mafia (they are personal irl friends), who was reaction testing Nutella with the Ender push, or had temporary doubt on it, but has been persuaded to go back to lock townreading Ender after further persistent tunneling.
To me one is plainly viable and the other is ... plausible but doesn't make a great deal of sense.
I rest my case goodnight.
"Fur in shower drain" and a mild case of "Irritability on full moons" apparently.Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:05 pmWhy?
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:02 pmBro he's literally the wolfiest person in the thread. His iso is garbage. He shot ilario etc etc I feel like a broken record like read some of my earlier stuff about him ffs.
You obviously are not getting what I am putting out, about my strong civ meta and that tiny voice.Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:55 pmWell I hope you know that if I'm wrong, it's just that I'm wrong. I viciously hate voting for you.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:47 pmI'm addressing this to you, rather than Golden or Scotty, becasue you should know better.Spoiler: show
You're looking for Day 3 or 4 SVS here.
You couldn't handle this kind of thread in Cartomancy, yet you seem to think I won't be overwhelmed. Like I'm some sort of super person who won't freeze. Jesus Christ.
You know my game better than anyone. I need meta, and I need to find small things. Which is hard for me in this setting.
Generally I kick into gear when it's time to momma bear, when the wolves fuck with someone I care about. Then I hear that little voice in my ear telling me where to look, how to find them. It was there in the last several games, and it helped me find what I was looking for.
Other than Dennis, who was killed by another townie, I have no idea, or real connection to anyone that was killed. I think most of the people who were killed were killed by town. I haven't found anything to latch on to yet.
And also, I don't fucking know what a Lost Wolf is, it isn't a TMI thing or any other kind of stupid jargon I don't understand. I don't know what it is.
That little voice is not there, and that's OK, I should be able to work without it. And I will, but I need to be given my ground to get my feet. This whole "Oh SVS isn't on fire" or whatever else is ridiculous on Day Two.
Now I have to get in there and see what's what.
If it was up to me, I would keep my vote on Marmot, that's the closest thing to the "little thing" I need to latch onto, the thing he said to Neon. That was such a bad look for him.
But it looks like I'll have to vote to save. Of my esteemed competitors, I felt worse about Sean than Rondo, but that seemed to develop today, and I have to read the case on that.
And now you Jesus christed me and this the feeling I hate to have which is why I don't vote you in the firat place!
I wouldn't say I was trying to save you? I was trying to wrap my head around what Mac was saying and wanted follow up.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:06 pmMR has no reason to chime in and save me as wolf, especially when I am scum reading him. have town points.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:00 pmOkay this is hard for me to really absorb because I'm best with things I was involved in or was present for. Like I think I 'get' it but I also just ask 'isn't this just Rondo being Rondo'? Maybe this is uncharitable but I've already broken that seal a few posts agin - I just find Rondo does weird shit sometimes, or rather shit I just don't follow with my own brain thoughts.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:55 pm@Michelle @Master RadishesMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:14 am Allow me to summarise again.
Rondo presently has Ender lock town. Ender has had Rondo as lock mafia since essentially the game began. Rondo has mostly ignored Ender intentionally and admittedly and when I've asked why he said it's because he thinks Ender is town because as a wolf he has no benefit to locking himself into scumreading Rondo out of the gate. So he is townreading him for something Ender did at the start of the game despite Ender, someone whom Rondo should trust to have a good read on him, non stop tunneling Rondo all game.
Further Rondo stated at the beginning of day 2 when he observed Nutella start to question Ender that he actually began to suspect Ender too overnight and wanted to observe day 2 before pursuing it further. Ender's day 2 proceeded to be more non stop burial of Rondo.
The question is on probability...
Is Rondo a wolf whose behavior is that of a wolf who knows he cannot bullshit Ender who saw right through him. So he's mostly just letting Ender spin around and focusing attention elsewhere hoping nobody notices Ender is right. Who when presented with an opportunity to discredit Ender took it.
Or is he a town who lock town reads someone non stop tunneling him who has a better understanding of Rondo than anyone else in all of mafia (they are personal irl friends), who was reaction testing Nutella with the Ender push, or had temporary doubt on it, but has been persuaded to go back to lock townreading Ender after further persistent tunneling.
To me one is plainly viable and the other is ... plausible but doesn't make a great deal of sense.
I rest my case goodnight.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
It's only a derp clear if either you or neon is mafia. If she's mafia I'm not sure why she should know or care which townie killed which other townieMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:02 pm SVS is probably always derp cleared for thinking Neon killed Dennis. I would never vote there.
@S~V~S Neon killed Sabi. The wolf. I killed Dennis.
You have hit ZERO notes on your town meta and all of your wolf meta. If you compare the two games I played with you, the one where I subbed in and the one where I played all chillax you were in there getting your hands dirty up to the elbow. In the other game you were just... cruisingKate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:03 pmDo you have the automatically think she's bad syndrome like I have with you? Or is there actually something you think done wolfily?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:56 pmWhy not vote her out today? Not just to save my own neck but seriously, you keep saying she has done nothing and then saying "But I will wait till tomorrow"?Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm Kate has done absolutely nothing all day. Like take a look at her ISO. She has contributed nothing townie the entirety of D2 and frankly the entirety of D1 as well. She is coasting by on being toneread as town by someone that knows her D1.
I don't want to vote her out today because I have bigger fish to fry. But please pay attention to her tomorrow, especially if you have KP.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
you're a bad rodent.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Or do I just like to keep my wolf game broad by doing wolfy things as town? I recognise it might get me killed today but its ok. I think you guys can still win it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:07 pmThe crux of it is a few things.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:00 pmOkay this is hard for me to really absorb because I'm best with things I was involved in or was present for. Like I think I 'get' it but I also just ask 'isn't this just Rondo being Rondo'? Maybe this is uncharitable but I've already broken that seal a few posts agin - I just find Rondo does weird shit sometimes, or rather shit I just don't follow with my own brain thoughts.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:55 pm@Michelle @Master RadishesMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:14 am Allow me to summarise again.
Rondo presently has Ender lock town. Ender has had Rondo as lock mafia since essentially the game began. Rondo has mostly ignored Ender intentionally and admittedly and when I've asked why he said it's because he thinks Ender is town because as a wolf he has no benefit to locking himself into scumreading Rondo out of the gate. So he is townreading him for something Ender did at the start of the game despite Ender, someone whom Rondo should trust to have a good read on him, non stop tunneling Rondo all game.
Further Rondo stated at the beginning of day 2 when he observed Nutella start to question Ender that he actually began to suspect Ender too overnight and wanted to observe day 2 before pursuing it further. Ender's day 2 proceeded to be more non stop burial of Rondo.
The question is on probability...
Is Rondo a wolf whose behavior is that of a wolf who knows he cannot bullshit Ender who saw right through him. So he's mostly just letting Ender spin around and focusing attention elsewhere hoping nobody notices Ender is right. Who when presented with an opportunity to discredit Ender took it.
Or is he a town who lock town reads someone non stop tunneling him who has a better understanding of Rondo than anyone else in all of mafia (they are personal irl friends), who was reaction testing Nutella with the Ender push, or had temporary doubt on it, but has been persuaded to go back to lock townreading Ender after further persistent tunneling.
To me one is plainly viable and the other is ... plausible but doesn't make a great deal of sense.
I rest my case goodnight.
1 Ender is the player with the most experience with Rondo and has been non stop tunneling him.
2 Rondo has mostly been presenting an unwavering townread in spite of this. Except for briefly when noticing Nutella questioning Ender saying he actually too was sus but then going nowhere with it and returning back to townreading him.
3 Ender is very towny.
4 Rondo is townreading Ender because he feels there is an absence of wolf agenda in his tunneling Rondo. That it wouldn't make sense for wolf Ender to play into town Rondo this way.
What makes more sense?
Town Rondo habing an unwavering generous townread on the person who reads him best who would be reading him wrong because of point 4.
Wolf Rondo recognising the person with the best read on him has immediately caught him and had decided non violent ignorance and blowing smoke up his ass is the only way to deal with it. And opportunistically amplifying suspicion on Ender when he feels he can get away with it.
I feel that the former is plausible but it'd be generous for me to assume so given the latter is a very easy explanation. I'd also note that even if town Rondo townread Ender here I feel like his playbook would find him provocative towards and reaction testing towards Ender a lot to constantly sanity check his read. He has not done that.
Can you give me a brief synopsis of other options?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
He's not even poking. He's like, lifting a finger and wiggling it a bit every so often.
i could have sworn she said it, and that she was proud. Doh.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:02 pm SVS is probably always derp cleared for thinking Neon killed Dennis. I would never vote there.
@S~V~S Neon killed Sabi. The wolf. I killed Dennis.
1 its funnyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:08 pmVotes are used during the day phase to pressure players and get info via discussion.
How do you feel self voting accomplishes this goal? To what purpose was your self vote? I see you've found a wagon other than your own...can you tell me why that wagon out of others?