Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

Why don’t we keep just elimming civs every day because of who yells the loudest and pushes the hardest, great strategy there.

Ffs mac someone needs to throw a shell at you.

Someone needs to stop antagonising me and stop being a fucking hypocrite actually.

You’re the one antagonising. You are literally wolf reading every single person who isn’t doing what you want. I’m not your slave.

Liar. I am wolfreading Alison for egregiously mischaracterising the nature of Rondo's play in order to defend him.

I am annoyed and sceptical of you and find your pleading to loyalty to be absurd given you didn't even give me the courtesy of reading my argument towards Rondo before attempting to undermine it.

Go back and read this interaction with a clear mind and apologise for calling me a fool.

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[Creature]

A lot of players said Michelle was an easy read. Is she still town?

[nutella]

I am kinda worried Neon might be just trolling about actually shooting Sabiplz. Otherwise I would heavily townread her for that.

If it's true that lily shot sabi then I'd question the neon claim but the way lily reacted seemed like it was something else, not a cc

[RondoDimBuckle]

I looked through Sig's ISO, and it's not as towny as I remembered. In fact, it's kind of not towny. Biggest question is if the mixing up Sabie/Sabi is genuine or not.

Omg I'm bored

We can get in a fight if you want?

Those pants make your calves look smol

I don’t believe in calves ergo mine are amazing tyvm.

Your username sounds like Sad Eye Peas!

I think this can easily be w/w interaction. I think someone said it was too spontaneous or something, but I disagree.

Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

There's a disconnect in reading Golden town, acknowledging SVS has a point on Golden/Kate, and still having active suspicion on Kate. Also the bottom list is likely bad. Dennis and TSP flipped town, and I think Wilgy and Creature are both very likely town. Kate may or may not be. And the extra mention of SabiE is iiinteresting.

Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This is much more important though. Would Sabi and Sig do this as a theatre? I think Sabi would. Her push for Sig "fake derping" was truly bad and weird in the first place. I don't know if Sig would be a player doing fancy shit like this on purpose as mafia. Would like opinions on that.

Honestly? Not a bad night. 1 mafia down 1 3rd party down, and then 2 iffy towny.

Now the question is to sort through who the potential mafia kill is so we can do some NKA

Le petit poussin and tonystarkprime are definitely mafia kills.

That’s what I’m thinking which weird to hit TSP unless the mafia is playing a very safe game

This post is also suss to me. Why did you think mafia killed TSP if you at the same time think it's weird?

I want to go down hitting an actual mafia so this looks like a good case

[VOTE: Sig ] aubergine

[Creature]

Golden, Kate and Scotty are the only players I didn't mention afair and I don't know what to say about them. I am pretty on the fence about all of them.

[Lilypetal]

i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

huh

[Creature]

Now I'm finished. I'll prob go back to my first post in this string and start replying things.

[Lilypetal]

Lilypetal also claimed shooting Sabiplz.

Wait. I asked about this but don't think I got an answer

@Lilypetal

oh yeah well i dont want to expand on my action but i actually misread it and i can use it again

i dont want to go into specifics but yeah im going to use it on someone in the poe

[Dyslexicon]

I want to go down hitting an actual mafia so this looks like a good case

[VOTE: Sig ] aubergine

Oh no

I usually make rubbish cases. Source: MU champs finals

[nutella]

i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

huh

ok yeah this is not a claim that she shot sabi lol it was some other action that was rendered useless by sabi dying

[RondoDimBuckle]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

See he might not even want to fully vote me out, He might just be doing this to get me to obv town but 6/6/6 wagons (fuck yeah) is pretty chill for me so he wont be seeing what he is looking for which is unfortunate

[Dyslexicon]

Lilypetal also claimed shooting Sabiplz.

Wait. I asked about this but don't think I got an answer

@Lilypetal

oh yeah well i dont want to expand on my action but i actually misread it and i can use it again

i dont want to go into specifics but yeah im going to use it on someone in the poe

Oh ok. I'm just thinking if it's a kill, that would be useful to know. Cause then Neon claiming it would be dubious.

[Lilypetal]

i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

huh

ok yeah this is not a claim that she shot sabi lol it was some other action that was rendered useless by sabi dying

i didnt shoot sabi

but sabi would have eventually met their demise yea

[RondoDimBuckle]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

I don't appreciate how you are treating me right now. I could attempt to injure your pride too, out of wounded ego and probably with more skill and tact but I feel it would be a bad idea so I'm refraining. Try to imagine the types of things I would say though. Like walk up to a mirror and insult yourself for me please.

You are best town Mu stuff like this washes off your back

[Lilypetal]

Lilypetal also claimed shooting Sabiplz.

Wait. I asked about this but don't think I got an answer

@Lilypetal

oh yeah well i dont want to expand on my action but i actually misread it and i can use it again

i dont want to go into specifics but yeah im going to use it on someone in the poe

Oh ok. I'm just thinking if it's a kill, that would be useful to know. Cause then Neon claiming it would be dubious.

No. Neon's claim is un CC'd. My ability would not have killed Sabi n1

[RondoDimBuckle]

Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

yes. they do

[Creature]

I thought town!Seanzie would care a lot more about being wagoned as a town strongman vig.

Do you have experience with Seanzie in both metas? I'm sort of realising I don't but also that this doesn't feel like the one wolf!Seanzie I remember.

I dunno. I just thought Seanzie would be the player to go pretty angry if he found himself wagoned as a claimed town strongman vig. I remember he was pretty mad about being flashwagoned as a town dayvig last GOC game.

[Master Radishes]

Golden, Kate and Scotty are the only players I didn't mention afair and I don't know what to say about them. I am pretty on the fence about all of them.

Clearly an inherent bias against OG Syndicate crew.

[Golden]

Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

See he might not even want to fully vote me out, He might just be doing this to get me to obv town but 6/6/6 wagons (fuck yeah) is pretty chill for me so he wont be seeing what he is looking for which is unfortunate

I think his motivations are just determination that he’s right.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I'm not voting HK at this juncture.

[Creature]

Alison and Mac might be wolves together and in that case we're pretty screwed.

Christ on a bike

You started accusing everybody defending Rondo of being his partner which doesn't make sense.

Alison is tunneling Kate yet repeatedly keeps doing something else like she doesn't believe in it.

You both are being somewhat illogical.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mac is no longer voting me. I am scott free right? /s

[Golden]

Golden, Kate and Scotty are the only players I didn't mention afair and I don't know what to say about them. I am pretty on the fence about all of them.

Wait what? You’ve been tunneling me literally all game.

[EnderWiggin]

Mac is no longer voting me. I am scott free right? /s

Scotty free.

[Master Radishes]

I want to go down hitting an actual mafia so this looks like a good case

[VOTE: Sig ] aubergine

Oh no

I usually make rubbish cases. Source: MU champs finals

It's okay, I usually shield a wolf in the towncore. Source: ibid.

[Party Crasher]

Mac is no longer voting me. I am scott free right? /s

Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

[Creature]

112 kinda disappeared but meh 112 could be just town LHF.

the reason is that someone smashed the computers on my unit in the "healing centre" at which i'm interned

Creature has a lot of posts for someone who doesn't know this

You have very few posts for someone to read any of them.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

[Creature]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

People who know her meta are wolf reading her

Who are those people?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

This is really obfuscating the point I was frustrated about but honestly the desperation with which it seems people need to process my behaviour as oriented towards protecting my ego vs. a desire to help town win a game and see through mistruths in the pursuit of said wincon has me arriving at a point with which I recognise that the game being won is not worth the tribulation that such things cause.

That is all to say Rondo is lock town y'all. Floundering and capitulating to a well made case is a fabulous reason to townread someone and Alison is a genius for realising that. I am voting on the wrong pusy.

woo lock town

[Dyslexicon]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

People who know her meta are wolf reading her

Who are those people?

Golden and Kate

[Creature]

I'm going to assume Rondo and Seanzie are the frontrunner options today and that's where I should focus if I want to do anything useful.

could both Seanzie and I be town?

Possibly and this is what I'm afraid about.

[Creature]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

In all the games I’ve played with SVS, I’ve never heard her called LHF. That’s not who SVS is, historically.

So that in and of itself is concerning

Ok then we kill SVS. I assume that should be an easy pelt, right?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mac, I do apologise for the tone I take with you. I take it often and just assume you in particular can take it and aren’t phased, but it is unfair.

The only reason that it is unfair is that if I were baited into replying in kind I would be the one held up as the emotional maniac and rissoled for it. I would take it with fine humour if I was able to reciprocate with the full power of my arsenal of Australian insults.

YEAH! WERE NOT HERE TO FUCK SPIDERS!

[Dyslexicon]

I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

In all the games I’ve played with SVS, I’ve never heard her called LHF. That’s not who SVS is, historically.

So that in and of itself is concerning

Ok then we kill SVS. I assume that should be an easy pelt, right?

Why were you voting for her?

[Creature]

master radishes was also a wagon earlier and now it has fully disappeared.

We can work together to bring it back?

I dunno. I have no idea how you play as wolf.

[Master Radishes]

Dizzy trying to vote everyone in the game in one EoD.

[Master Radishes]

master radishes was also a wagon earlier and now it has fully disappeared.

We can work together to bring it back?

I dunno. I have no idea how you play as wolf.

Me neither.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

Hi, little Mac! I wub you! Let mommy explain something to you! I think her point was that Rondo "picked a fight with you" and that it makes him look bad if Seanzie is mafia KP, because it would be a way to distract away from Sean. I could see Alison thinking this, because I think she assumes everyone is playing in a strategical, planned out and optimal way. Which I think is very far from the truth. I think most people do random stuff and that things just happen. We are people, not machines. So I don't agree that Rondo had any specific purpose getting into a fight with you, and I think that Rondo didn't really have a choice to in the first place. He's playing a game, and suddenly he was in a fight with you. Does that make sense?

A) You're right
and
B) You're wrong

I can choose to do what ever the fuck I want. But getting in a 1v1 with Mac is super fun, I recoomend it.

[Creature]

I see Sloonei being around. Should I be worried they are just lurking or do they lurk like this every game?

I think it just shows people hanging out even if their browser is closed or whatever. I also am pretty sure we should not make reads based on it.

Still worries me Sloonei might be doing the same thing they did in the Baseball game and I don't like the idea of giving a lurking wolf a free ride to endgame.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok well, I’m only voting mac if 2 others with wagons are also voting there. Otherwise it won’t work.

I still think that’s a great town-sided play, but it requires participation from the players so nah humbug

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

ill vote mac if its just me and you

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think Mac's a wolf but I'll give him the chance to lynch a wolf today incase he is town or bussing wolf.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

This is a very odd way for Mac to lose his 3rd free Lynch before town goes on him. Killing his cred in future games against me and generally looking silly. If Mac is mafia here I would be surprised and as I said its a glorious play I can only support

[Creature]

Creature I'm sorry to be rude but your contributions to this game have been non stop staggering ghastly bad.

Why are you voting HK then?

[Seanzie]

I thought town!Seanzie would care a lot more about being wagoned as a town strongman vig.

Can only do so much.

[S~V~S]

Spoiler: show

Well, this turned out to not be true.

I just voted Cape90 on the poll, I was thinking I did it 2 hours ago when I posted about it but apparently nope.

@lucy: can you give me your thoughts on him? (particularly his last read list)

Voting in the thread, but not in the poll.

You're wolfing my dude.

I'm at Friday PM now, and they've put forth their first major ping, Creature.

They got between Sabi and Lucy who were kinda "fuck offing" each other. NAI, Marmot's a person who doesn't love conflict, imo.

Made a soft push towards Dennis, but backed off pretty much immediately. Not sure if this is AI or not?

Something I noticed, Dennis seemed a lot more content talking/joking with Kate, than anyone else itt earlier.

I don't really think that's AI though, unless they're exactly wolf partners together like they were in Cartomancy

i mean i guess that makes sense regardless. i do tr kate and would put some weight on her read of dennis too

(I forgot to add) Dennis was reluctant to sign up for this game given the size.


Why do people scumread Dennis? I missed all of that content.

I did agree with Marmot 100% here, I didn't really see it either. *Waits for someone to yell "Pocketing! TMI!" at me.

Someone earlier said that Marmot and Sabi have a sup0er close relationship? They ask Sabis opinion quite a bit, is this NAI given that?

Here Marmot says he's concerned about Sabi, implying Sabi could be bad. I'm guessing that means the same as "worried"?

I should do some work

bbl

Sabi if you get a chance could you please take respond to my read questions on Creature and sig? Or point me to your explanations if I missed them. I'm a little concerned about you atm, but I also want to give you space to solve and hope I can find you if you're town.

I just pulled this because Mac called them a "flippin merman" which I found hilarious. A bit later Marmot called Mac a "flippin Mermac" which was also hilarious.

I'm not really feeling a Creature vote atm.

Who else should I vote?

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin merman

Thanks, I'll try.

He made a few temp votes, made a case on Cape. He wishied, he washied, which is not totally fair, since I did pretty much quite a bit of the same, tbh.

All in all, I was fairly convinced by the bit with Neon (who I had forgotten had been a woof in Holes) who came out of it very civ, marmot not so much.

Gonna [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine for now, they haven't been in here all day and I'd like to hear what they say.

@Dyslexicon Sure it's fair. I have been flying low, and not playing at the level I am capable of. Plus I know it's cheesy and weak, two things I dislike, especially in myself, but I was a bit overwhelmed by the massiveness of this thread the first few (calendar) days. I tend to be a meta player, and all the people I didn't know flinging suspish at other people I didn't know for reasons I didn't understand kinda made me freeze a bit. I think I'm starting to find my feet, though.

I'm gonna eat dinner and keep reading, bbl.

I'm not sure what she's saying here about Creature, it may be bc I was reading it out of context. Svs, can you clarify?

The only time I've EVER seen svs freeze was not a civ...

I'm addressing this to you, rather than Golden or Scotty, becasue you should know better.

You're looking for Day 3 or 4 SVS here.

You couldn't handle this kind of thread in Cartomancy, yet you seem to think I won't be overwhelmed. Like I'm some sort of super person who won't freeze. Jesus Christ.

You know my game better than anyone. I need meta, and I need to find small things. Which is hard for me in this setting.

Generally I kick into gear when it's time to momma bear, when the wolves fuck with someone I care about. Then I hear that little voice in my ear telling me where to look, how to find them. It was there in the last several games, and it helped me find what I was looking for.

Other than Dennis, who was killed by another townie, I have no idea, or real connection to anyone that was killed. I think most of the people who were killed were killed by town. I haven't found anything to latch on to yet.

And also, I don't fucking know what a Lost Wolf is, it isn't a TMI thing or any other kind of stupid jargon I don't understand. I don't know what it is.

That little voice is not there, and that's OK, I should be able to work without it. And I will, but I need to be given my ground to get my feet. This whole "Oh SVS isn't on fire" or whatever else is ridiculous on Day Two.

Now I have to get in there and see what's what.

If it was up to me, I would keep my vote on Marmot, that's the closest thing to the "little thing" I need to latch onto, the thing he said to Neon. That was such a bad look for him.

But it looks like I'll have to vote to save. Of my esteemed competitors, I felt worse about Sean than Rondo, but that seemed to develop today, and I have to read the case on that.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

Is SVS "caught wolf" simply a meta read?



@Golden

Yeah, just me being exaggerative.

Talk to me about this meta...they just don't have enough towny fire?



You had specific reasons for TR Kate, so I imagine you have some for SR SVS, no?

Town SVS would generally be jumping at the shadow of wolves in her wagon, omgusing hard, and independently hunting as well. She’s been claiming catch ups but hasn’t even really been creating much content out of that.

I honestly think Town SVS would have saved me here. She is a level headed voice of reason and quite capable of finding things herself. The fact that she isnt is quite interesting.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[Creature]

I am kinda worried Neon might be just trolling about actually shooting Sabiplz. Otherwise I would heavily townread her for that.

If it's true that lily shot sabi then I'd question the neon claim but the way lily reacted seemed like it was something else, not a cc

Ok I prob maintain the townread on Neon. Even if she was trolling about shooting Sabiplz I don't really think she is touchable today.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm awake but I sure as fuck ain't alive

Morning, save me or I will die

Also news: Water is wet