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Lol Made is trying to bury me I think?
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Damn. That hurts coming from a guy who wears glasses.
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That read on me is atrocious and the dude never reads me town ever. He's like the ultra Mac paranoia enthusiast.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm Damn. That hurts coming from a guy who wears glasses.
I am going to make screeching bird sounds soon.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
How about spooge? Brb reading some Mac spooge. Mac spooged Jay town. I love it.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm If my last dying gift to the game of Mafia is a new word to replace "spew", I will have given it something good.
Alignment diarrhea.
Nah it doesn't work as a verb. Spooge it is.
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Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
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@MacDougall gun to your head, who are the mafia if it's a team of two?
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Before "spew" became a thing I feel like I used "paint" a lot.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm @MacDougall gun to your head, who are the mafia if it's a team of two?
Made and Martin.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:35 pm Before "spew" became a thing I feel like I used "paint" a lot.
I feel like I've been using sponge the entire time it works so good.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
I did full reviews for Made and Act, but none else.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:34 pm Has anyone actually tried to read spooge on orangecrush?
I did full reviews for Made and Act, but none else.
I'll give it a whirl today if I get time.
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Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:37 pm I've been too lazy to do any paint analysis.
Maybe if you refer to it as spooge you'll find your enthusiasm.
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Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:32 am
Allcrab wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:25 am
Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:19 am
Allcrab wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:13 am
Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 am
Allcrab wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:07 pm
Alison wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm bad bunny has extremely high wolf equity in light of nutella's flip.
I am very confidant bunny is a villager if she's a wolf she votes made 100% I'm sure of it.
Err, is this TMI?
I'll take dumbest posts I've ever read for 100 alex.
It implied you knew Made's alignment.

And yes, I've seen you addressed this now.
I've seen people say this twice now and not for nothing even if wagons were w/w I still think bunny's vote makes them village because I would assume wolves would have a preference of who goes down between made/nutella.
That's probably fair.
This is the only real exchange I see between Sonny and Allcrab, at least from Sonny's posts.
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orangecrush didn't mention Allcrab at all. I also searched "Fable" for each of them.
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Did you read Orangecrush for instances of my name? I think you did? I am pretty sure they spent their entire game trying to get me chopped. Which is pretty interesting because that probably rules out certain teammates when I think about it.
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Allcrab on Sonnycrush:

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Alison
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From what I've read so far
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 8:53 pm Do you have an immediate perspective of orangecrush, Allcrab? You’ve likely said something already, but it is difficult to search by phone.
Orange is kinda null to me themselves but agree with alison's take on sonny them seeming less motivated as more wolves died that being said I find act's posts towards orange extremely uncharitable and it's making me concerned, it could be a bus but that seems dangerous and this stage.
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Alison-Village
Bunny-Village
Gnome-Village
Guillo-Village
JJJ-Village
Lomo-Village (I just don't see the value of a one shot wolf watcher but maybe I'm being dumb on this)
Mac-Village?
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Orange-Wolf?
Seanzie-Wolf?
Sloonei-Wolf
Tangrowth-Village

I think that's everybody and I know there probably a 3p in there somewhere but I don't care enough to do work on that until wolves are gone.
Allcrab wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 8:30 pm
Alison wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 8:29 pm How about Sloonei shoots orangecrush and I believe your read on bunny anyway because you asked so nicely?
Acceptable.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 8:53 pm Do you have an immediate perspective of orangecrush, Allcrab? You’ve likely said something already, but it is difficult to search by phone.
Orange is kinda null to me themselves but agree with alison's take on sonny them seeming less motivated as more wolves died that being said I find act's posts towards orange extremely uncharitable and it's making me concerned, it could be a bus but that seems dangerous and this stage.
Allcrab wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:15 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:08 pm And you think they did the same thing with healers?
Not really I think martin is a wolf I'm just humoring alison because I think orange can also be a wolf and an 11 vote circlejerk on martin would be boring.
Allcrab wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:00 am Granted I think it can be as easy as act, orange, martin and we done so I don't think it's necessary to go there at this time.

Allcrab fell on the right side of history on the day OC was shot. I'd be more comfortable if there was anything at all to fill the void coming before that day phase. Allcrab didn't have much of anything to say about the slot prior.

I do think the exchange I posted a bit ago was a decent look for the crab. Confidence low-to-moderate.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:41 pm Did you read Orangecrush for instances of my name? I think you did? I am pretty sure they spent their entire game trying to get me chopped. Which is pretty interesting because that probably rules out certain teammates when I think about it.
I haven't posted a review on that specific topic, no. I did just take a quick look (I am stepping out the door). I'm of two minds:

1) His griefing about your being "anti-town" seems like a nice thing for you.

2) You were clearly never getting chopped and I have to think he knew that, so I take many grains of salt.
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why?
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:07 pmwhy?
Him “trying to get you chopped” is effectively meaningless if he knows it will never happen.
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But why do you think they had that mentality? It seems obvious to me that he didn't. Which is why I think it might indicate who the partners are. Made being one of them.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:21 pm But why do you think they had that mentality? It seems obvious to me that he didn't. Which is why I think it might indicate who the partners are. Made being one of them.
I’m in no place to take a closer look now. But he had followed the game to some degree even before joining it, and I don’t recall you accumulating votes. I dunno what would signal to OC that MacDougall is the guy to go after if he really wants to force a miss — especially with Act on the block.
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@MacDougall do you believe orangecrush would have been in a state of anti-exposure when he was going after you given that everyone was talking about either chopping him or shooting him? He led the poll vote most of the day too.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:49 pm @MacDougall do you believe orangecrush would have been in a state of anti-exposure when he was going after you given that everyone was talking about either chopping him or shooting him? He led the poll vote most of the day too.
I don't really know what you mean. When I first noticed them come in my inclination was that they seemed kinda towny because they seemed disconnected from things. Choosing to push on me from their position kinda made me think there was no agenda behind it. It just felt like some little dog yapping at me. Going after me from their perspective as mafia indicates that they were either in a team that was kinda disconnected/defeated or comprised of people who didn't understand the futility of pushing on me at the time. Or I guess there is the alternative which is that they were in anti-spew or being told to push on me for the wifom of it.
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ok apparently i have to do work
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to which I say wolf team is jay/mac
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I'm doing a full interaction review of your two slots Mac, so we'll see how I feel.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:06 pm to which I say wolf team is jay/mac
Cool you're the poisoner then
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:06 pm to which I say wolf team is jay/mac
why those two?
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orangecrush wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:33 pm Gnome or Mac or maybe Martin as if Martin can be confirmed town healer it would help us with Alisom also
Martin's position in the salad is of interest.
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lol TSP caught us
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I was actually thinking about the poison targets. They are insidious and calculated. N1 they go after a big dog in Alison, who was a very realistic NK target, which would have been quite a waste if the poison double stacked (assuming that the poisoner is 3p). She also looked very town. So quite a wolf-siding shot from most people's perspective. Since then all the shots have been POE, but not the most POE, just sort of outside the range of being the optimal chop. Never NK choices, but also probably not going to be chopped. So since n1, they have hard townsided. The more the game has progressed towards a town win, the more the poisoner has felt like they've been trying to help the town win? It feels like each of them has specifically been selected to:

a) Avoid getting healed by town (LC)
b) Avoid being the NK target (because POE)
c) Have high potential to be mafia (because POE)
d) Not be optimal chop targets.

With the exception of Alison.

If Alison wasn't the first target, I would be nearly convinced the poisoner is in fact Alison. If the poisoner is 3p, they are trying to help town steamroll the mafia. Which would indicate that they are strong towncore, paying close attention and do not fear losing to the town if the mafia get cleared before them.

Or the poisoner is in fact a town-aligned poisoner? I doubt it, but it could be the case.

Sometimes poisoner roles have the ability to choose to fake it. If this poisoner has that then it's Alison 100%.

If it's not Alison, it could be TSP but I am not entirely sure that Tangy would have targeted Alison n1, and the targets feel more conscious while Tangy was disconnected from the game? I guess I could just be misreading that.

Allcrab has a point about the Bad Bunny poison, also I am not sure any of the targets truly make that much sense for Allcrab.
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this plan still may exist to check Alison, if we can make it work.
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We can coordinate a way to test Alison's by tying the vote and making sure the person Jay does not vote for reaches the vote total first. If there is an apparent tie, Jay should have a double vote, so whoever he votes for should die. If he does not have a double vote, then the other person will die. If he does not have a double vote, Alison lied.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm 400 posts already, you Mafia-loving fiends! Anything interesting happen so far?
Im trying to make Guillo and Gavial engage for science.
Why those two?
Sonny wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 11:52 pm Is flippancy, or even trolling, standard for MacDougall?

I don't follow what he's doing, but he sure is making me laugh. I assume that's just him?
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Sonny wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 12:46 am
Alison wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 10:20 pm Martin is lock town never rescind.
Why?
Alison reps a godread on Martin so just sheep it.
Err, I mean good to know, would still like to see if for myself if it's something she can articulate.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 1:00 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 12:58 am You tell me I'm stale in loads of town games.
I don't think that's true but whatever
MacDougall wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 12:58 amI think maybe you just hold me to too high a standard. Just because I can doesn't mean I want to play every game in the avatar-state.
Do your thing
but that's the point I don't wanna have to pass through your dumb gates to get town read by you, I wanna shit post and tilt people
One that wants to shit post and tilt people is incompatible with one that cares what others think about said shit posting and tilting.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 1:47 am Jay your reads are bad so you're probably mafia
Wait, which reads? Is this about his read on you? Who else?
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MacDougall wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 2:47 am whatever this is all dumb lets chop made

[VOTE: made] aubergine
Do you actually scum read Jay?

And why Made?

Kinda feels like deflection here.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 2:49 am Made sure did make a post.
did he? I didn't see it.
There was a pop quiz, I got excited for a moment as it promised fun. But then nothing. (If I'm remembering names correctly).
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MacDougall wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 2:47 am whatever this is all dumb lets chop made

[VOTE: made] aubergine
Do you actually scum read Jay?

And why Made?

Kinda feels like deflection here.
no I don't scum read Jay

do you intend to accuse everyone who introduces a new suspect as deflecting from somewhere arbitrary?
No and okay. It was just the timing of it, felt like people were looking in your direction and so you've offered up another name. Tbf, I thought you were saying Jay was scum hence why voting someone else here felt super hinky.
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You've said this several times, is this a thing, or a poke?
you tryna defend ur woof mate?
Huh? I've no issue with Nutella being scum read, the minimal amount of Syndicate non-town reads is bothersome so have at it. I'm just struggling to tell when you're being serious and when you're joking. I'll get there, probably.
I am always doing both
Ah.

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MacDougall wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 2:00 am @Sonny vote nutella
Lol, sure

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

I actually have a meh read on them anyway, only note is the insta town read on Kito which must have been a joke but yall are dropping so many sincere townreads over air so who the hell knows anymore.
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Sonny wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 2:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 2:01 am where bouts u from?
Adelaide. The land of churches and wine. I'm all about the wine.
I also love wine. Particularly SA wine.
It's fated man, fated. Wine is my day job.
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MacDougall wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 2:28 am I suddenly townread nutella
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Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 am [VOTE: Owner] aubergine
rly tho
If you're a flower vendor, why not say who you visited? Or at least say "no it wasn't Jay"?

She dodged Sean's question, even if it is a fake trap, it's a poor reaction.
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Seanzie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:23 am
Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:16 am I feel like you both agree yet are saying entirely different things.

Sean: PoE larger with more scum
JJJ: Misyeet options fewer with more scum

YW
The only reasonable vote right now is Owner. Are you up for it?
How exactly is this true? Is it because you tracked her to Jay and there was no kill? Did you consider she might be the doctor? Or the fruit is a vest?

Or am I missing something?
Sure, but fruit vendor is a verifiable role, if she gave something to someone else they can confirm it and stop her yeet.
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Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:42 am Btw, can a local tell me what Nutella's typical MO is with team interaction?
defense and awkward spew
Thanks. I never quite know what people mean by the word spew in this context but have never bothered to ask, can it be articulated? Like is it "over-focus"?
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Seanzie wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm Okay, end of Page 9. Guillo pointed out possible wolves in Nutella/Alison. Guillo also went from simply bear posting to regular posting in a way I kind of like (he wanted to do a gimmick, but then it feels like he just got excited as town and dropped the gimmick). Clearly Nutella was a hit, and I agree about Alison thus far. Mac also kind of pushed in that direction, and Nutella seems to be trying to butter Mac up afterwards (defended Mac at some point, and talked about how good Mac was in spiderverse, blah blah blah), so I am giving Mac a few town points here. Guillo probably also good, but seems to be getting less reactions from Nutella and others. I'd like to see Alison's flip to help sort these two.
What would Alison's flip mean for Guillo and Mac?
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MacDougall wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:08 pm
nutella wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 4:05 am Strong town
Jay
Sonny
Guillo
Tangy

Town leans
Gnome
Alison
Martin I guess sheeping alison
Dana
Mac
Sloonei
Hawk? Liked their style
Act maybe at this point

Gav Nook LC are more tbd
Dont remember anyone else

Going to sleep for like 12 hours gl
There is 1 wolf between Jay, Sonny and Tangy. Nutella had more deep and meaningful interactions with Tangy than Jay and Sonny up to this point. She made no effort to defend Jay from me when I tried to push him nor did any kind of "Jay is just town" deflated shit so that means she probably was enjoying him getting pushed and just townreads him here to pocket him. So the mafia between them is probably Sonny.

In the leans I would say that Martin, Hawk and Act are probably not mafia because she would be too conscious of over-elaboration as a tell. There is probably 1 mafia in this list though and it is probably Garden Gnome.

There is probably one between Gavial and Long Con also.
Eh, I get it, scum can group people together with a teammate, but I was being widely town read, if there is scum in her strong town reads it isn't me so keep digging.

Interesting about the overelaboration thing (as in overarching mafia interesting) never really considered that.
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MacDougall wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:47 pm
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MacDougall wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:43 pm I am mindful of the fact that if there is even 1 mafia between Jay, Sloonei and Alison that once the two of the three that aren't that mafia and I die that person is probably just going to win, and I am very conflicted as to why the three of them are choosing to walk that path, particularly Alison, given Jay and Sloonei both acted in defense of Nutella in the most literal way and Jay in particular was present during Nutella wifom hours mopping up anti spew cred.
JJJ doesn’t hard defend his scum bud right off the bat.
Like the way he handled Nut SoD1 felt never W/W.
I was actually going to clear Nut if JJJ flipped Red because I thought JJJ was the scum within them because JJJ felt like they were trying to pocket Nut. JJJ for some reason had a very strong TR on Nut.
JJJ is a power player. He absolutely would defend his teammate because, much like me, he is rarely if ever held to account for anything he does because of his clout and when he does he can just post himself clear as either alignment.
Can anyone else with history confirm if Jay is within his scum range atm?

One minute Mac seems to say town the next scum and I can't tell if he is serious or not.
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MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:01 am That does help, thank you Dana. It gives a sense of the competition in that moment for the nutella wagon, which was at least enough to matter. 5-3. For Sonny's sake that's a decent moment, particularly given that he didn't move the vote to my knowledge.
mmmm but he lives in Australia and was probably asleep for the last 6-7 hours of the day at minimum
We are a convict nation so I shouldn't be trusted.

Me not moving my vote does mean nothing though, cause yeah, sleep.
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:19 pm i am scum reading gnome mac and hawk and this stage

im about 25 pages in i think

by the way i can give reasons for any of these people want but i didnt wana go to spam the whole thread with my notes that i hav spent the day making
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm my scum read on hawk is similar to my read on gnome btw i dont think they have been able to successfully generate genuine content and are leaning on things like flavor and in hawks case picking on obvious jokes trying to shade them

as for macdougal for those that were playing the last game on mafia cafe he is giving me solvis vibes, i was able to get solvis easily because of his annoying approach to the thread which seemed to be an attempt at derailing actual town activity from taking place.
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:51 pm I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times
orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:08 pm
orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:04 pm
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orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 11:54 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 11:44 am @orangecrush, how does it feel to be wolfin' for the first time? Are you enjoying it?
hi seanzie, actually i am town this game but i am looking forward to playing as scum once i have been having some success as town but getting cv3ery frustrated about being killed aafter making good reads and not being able to continue the games . i was very disapointed with how last game went after i was kille
If it helps, the N1 kill is usually an honor saved for the best players in the game. You were killed because you were extremely good. I know it is frustrating watching from the sidelines afterwards, but you should take that kill as a complement, especially since you haven't played much yet.

You played Among Us a lot before joining us on MafC, right? How would you play scum on there? What would people look for to catch you (in the social deduction parts of the game, not like... the they saw you murder someone parts)?
actually with the frined group i've played with i have been told i can be more sociall awkwartd and quieter as an imposter. basically im not very good at hidingnervesd as an imposter because while it is fun it is very nervewracking in my opinion. im much more vocal and say what i think when right away as crewmate

also thank you for the kind words
Are you still catching up? If so, how far are you?

Also, I just looked through your ISO. You've mentioned Mac a few times. Can you elaborate there?
still catching up im at page 30 or so but actually ive been flipping back between current and old stuf rather than focussing on the entire readback

im glad you asked because you actually playted the high noon game that the majority of my read on mac is based upon. my read on solvis was a lot to do with the way they carried themselves in the thread in a way that was not only annoying but obstructive to town's solving process. This is something that I consider to be extremely anti-town and something mac has almost gleefully and openly admitted to doing. I will perhaps concede that there is some recency success bias here in that i was able to see solvis flip town and my read was proven, it is therefore something i am quite confident in right now and at this stage of my readback would make him someone i deeply consider to be worth looking at further

actually as i said im flipping current and past stuff right now and ive barely even seen anything from mac recently, i wonder if its something to do with the light being on hawk right now and them wanting to avoid interactions.


im gonna try and catch up more now anyway ive been so busy today :(
orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:02 pm @orangecrush since you're here, would you mind listing out some townreads/scumreads you have as of where you're at right now? Explanations are welcome but not necessary. It will just help give us some content to read you off of.
im town reading Act, Dana, Guil, Tangrowth

town lean for Jay and Martin and Sloonei

scum reading Gnome and Mac

scum lean on Hawk

can elaborate on any you wish just ask
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What was your case on Dana?
I had a fake red check on her
^ more anti-town play
your definition of anti-town is hilar
Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.


Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?
I didn't really fake red check her.

Trying to be light hearted isn't shit posting.

Try again.
Uh you yourself called it shit posting

Try again
orangecrush wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 10:45 pm @orangecrush I am currently leaning towards using my shot on you. You are not allowed to say that you want me to do this. If you are town, shooting you ensures a town death. Please give me a better name to pick than yours.
Sorry, I just think there is good sense to it, especially as I don't want people to waste time on me, also I understand many people here haven't played with me and will find me hard to clear as town on play

If you need a better name I'd just point you toward my reads so far

Gnome or Mac or maybe Martin as if Martin can be confirmed town healer it would help us with Alisom also
orangecrush wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:00 am [VOTE: vote: MacDougal ] aubergine
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orangecrush wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:32 am
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orangecrush wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:17 am
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But I have over 100 posts, that's more than people that have been here alive from the beginning. So actually what bunny said was not true at all and felt much like a fake defense of me
Bunny might be mafia but they are poisoned. If they survive the poison they are probably outed mafia from it anyway. So even if you're right it kinda doesn't matter.
Ok but act saying I'm grapsing at straws is stupid because bad bunny defending me with such defense is super weird and seems like looking for town credit. If they are poison and then they survive then they would look very bad
So you think they're both mafia? ok you only need 1 more for auto. Who is it? Consider carefully.
You are probably not with actr especially if the day vig is real but I think one of you is scum
act, bunny, ?

who fits?
I have to read through interaction s to see what fits but Gnome would be my third on top of act or you and bunny rigjt now.

Orange - These are instances of Sonny handling Mac in some manner that implies neutrality or uncertainty. Much of it takes on a "is Mac a real person?" kind of character that could be decent for Mac. Mafia dealing with his brand of solving for the first time probably do have no idea what to do with it.

Green - Sonny determined Mac looked good coming out of the nutella mafia flip. This is a default and consensus view that means little to me. His explanation even mirrors my own past rationale for calling Mac town.

Cyan - These are Sonny responses to Mac suspicion. They kind of look like someone swatting away an annoying bug, to Mac's credit. In the first case he seemed please to leave behind the pressured dialogue to talk about Australia.

Pink - This may be some of the most important stuff, as it pertains to Sonny's vote for nutella. Mac was the one who pushed him into that. This is an area where I can see the potential for a teammate relationship, particularly that faint emoji. I will temper that a bit and qualify that Sonny's explanation for being okay with a nutella vote kinda looks like something he felt the need to provide to Mac, which would be better. Too speculative for this stage of the game maybe.

Blue - This is a bit of an awkward Mac mention. There's a contextual reason for it given the post being addressed. I just don't know why the question is being asked.

Red - These are statements of suspicion against Mac. The majority come from OC, but a couple from Sonny actually seem a bit revealing. OC's accusations that Mac was a shitposting anti-town menace actually started with Sonny in that very first red blurb, albeit in a fainter way. I am hesitant to rely as much on the red material from OC, as the moment he entered the game he was under the gun and had to know that. Nonetheless we can note that OC's Mac stance was clearly one of animosity, and I would in most situations be inclined to view accusations that someone is being "anti-town" as a good indicator for them.

I actually think there's a decent chance OC was giving an honest read on Mac. That is, as OC was following the game as a spectator, he might have truly felt that way about Mac and made these internal comparisons to whoever "Slovis" is. As such, when he joined the game his mafia role card didn't have to stop him from sharing a read he had come upon for real before. Take all of that with boulders of salt. It's presumptuous.

I will post the Mac side of this interaction separately. This one's already huge. So far I think the trend is a positive one for Mac. I really hope folks engage with this and offer feedback, because we cannot afford to be wrong.
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:24 pm Or the poisoner is in fact a town-aligned poisoner? I doubt it, but it could be the case.
I think, nay hope, they'd have just claimed by now if that's the case. Otherwise we're wasting a ton of time on them.
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:24 pmSometimes poisoner roles have the ability to choose to fake it. If this poisoner has that then it's Alison 100%.
This has no business existing. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it has no business existing.
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:24 pmIf it's not Alison, it could be TSP but I am not entirely sure that Tangy would have targeted Alison n1, and the targets feel more conscious while Tangy was disconnected from the game? I guess I could just be misreading that.
I was serious just now when I called Tony the poisoner. Every time he makes an appearance without doing anything serious (and I don't qualify "it's jay/mac" as serious), he elevates in my poisoner chart. I think the targets being who they've been actually make some sense for Tangy. Alison was mildly anti-Tangy on Day 1. The others have been whatever picks for someone paying less attention than they'd like.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:06 pm to which I say wolf team is jay/mac
Cool you're the poisoner then
I don’t like you making me work by threatening to scumread me if I don’t and I don’t care if that’s how mafia works
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Like what, you think I’m 3P because if I’m town subbing into a spot I’ve been told is cleared I would have come in with a chart and reads
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I also just finished a game and would like like a night
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Like I cannot be bothered to solve a game on a day where Jay and Mac and Sloonei are all somehow still alive and working hard and I just subbed in because why not and btw someone should explain how it is that Jay and Mac and Sloonei are all still alive
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Mech insight though: Good odds one of the poison healer claims is a wolf/the poisoner. I dunno if we’re already past that point
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Mac’s not mafia
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:50 pm Mech insight though: Good odds one of the poison healer claims is a wolf/the poisoner. I dunno if we’re already past that point
Hawk flipped healer and Martin is still alive.

I will push Martin eventually because it's very unlikely they are what they say they are but I don't feel like fighting Alison about it yet.
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@Allcrab, do you have any clue who is going to be night-killed by the mafia?
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:10 pm @Allcrab, do you have any clue who is going to be night-killed by the mafia?
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Allcrab wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:11 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:10 pm @Allcrab, do you have any clue who is going to be night-killed by the mafia?
Probs Marmot.
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