The Syndicate

Except there cant be so many wolfs can there?

People not voting JJJ is outing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:30 pm I do think it’s unlikely the mafia team shoots into the POE no matter how many of them are in it. To me it seems pretty simple:

Dana protected me > Dana protected Sloonei/Alison/Tangy/Seanzie/Mac > Dana was shot > Dana protected rando for no reason

I put myself on top because it’s the most obvious deduction given the answers she received at twilight from Sean and Sloonei. Doesn’t have to be me, but I bet it was me.

She cant have bodyguarded you unless the 3P is a serial killer or a town vigilante targeted you. Dont you think?

Eh?

I don’t understand how you came to that conclusion, no. Why can’t she bodyguard me from a mafia kill?

Because i red checked you

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:30 pm I do think it’s unlikely the mafia team shoots into the POE no matter how many of them are in it. To me it seems pretty simple:

Dana protected me > Dana protected Sloonei/Alison/Tangy/Seanzie/Mac > Dana was shot > Dana protected rando for no reason

I put myself on top because it’s the most obvious deduction given the answers she received at twilight from Sean and Sloonei. Doesn’t have to be me, but I bet it was me.

She cant have bodyguarded you unless the 3P is a serial killer or a town vigilante targeted you. Dont you think?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:24 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:00 pm guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

you've been also begging a cop to check me

Yah but just like you said yesterday, you are not town leader and my theory was that the deepwolf was between players i recognize as leaders. JJJ, Alison and Seanzie.
I was thinking of checking Seanzie, but my inner voice told me that his reaction to Hawktaine trolling seemed genuine.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:00 pm guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:43 pm We’ll keep it simple:

If Guilly is FPSing, that’s fine. Let’s see what happens. Just be sure to rescind when it counts.

If Guilly actually believes he has a red on me, then that’s okay too. It wouldn’t be his fault. Role madness is a fickle mistress.

If Guilly is FPSing and doesn’t rescind, then it’d be the worst possible play and probably cancel the entirety of town’s lead in the game just for the nonsense it creates. I will trust Guillotine isn’t that foolish. Moreover, if I do actually go over folks will be forced to contend with the possibility of a mafia Guillotine — part of why it’d be so dumb if it’s just unrescinded FPS. There’s a decent chance Dana just saved my life.

Alright! If someone redirected me, they should claim now!

Im parking my vote on JJJ, i’ll start looking in JJJ iso for spew! This is gonna be rich!

I got you JJ! I GOT YOU LOL.

This is for you Gavial!!

MartinG and JJJ are scum!

Who is the last, who?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:30 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:29 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:25 pm You waited all this time to use a 1-shot?

Despite being very well town-read and not immune to night-kills?

That sounds false.

Shut up scum. You baited the healer out and we made the mistake to believe your healer claim instead of the counter claim! Hawk flipped town, you are scum.
Your comments are negated unless they are to spew a teammate.

You don't get to tell me to shut up.

I would WISH I could do the same to you but fact is neither of us have facts here.

Ok, you choose to spew another teammate. Cool! Thank you kindly. Please tell us, who is your other teammate?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:28 pm Be sure to log every reaction Guillotine because I can’t from my phone. It’ll be worth a chat later.

You can stop acting Jimmy. This is not a fake redcheck and you know it.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:25 pm You waited all this time to use a 1-shot?

Despite being very well town-read and not immune to night-kills?

That sounds false.

Shut up scum. You baited the healer out and we made the mistake to believe your healer claim instead of the counter claim! Hawk flipped town, you are scum.
Your comments are negated unless they are to spew a teammate.

Get wrecked boy!

Hardclaim Im a 1-shot Alignment Cop and I got a redcheck!

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:33 pm Also alison was poisoned. Unless that’s a third party ability, she’s not mafia.

Or she is and she said “hey guys let’s poison me and then someone will save me and I’ll be cleared for the rest of the game”, but that seems unlikely because then we’ll all be saying “why hasn’t alison been nightkilled yet?” around day 5 or so.

Or she was fake poisoned by a teammate and knew she was not gonna die. Or the poisoner is indeed a 3p, or the poisoner is scum targeted town but got redirected to scum teammate.

Seanzie, i never back off, i got stuff to do at home, your scum equity rised today and this angleshooting read does not help your case with me.

Who knew? Seanzie might be the deep wolf. Ha!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:44 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:39 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:28 pm

Sorry, they don't let mafia be desperado.

Yah but im town, really obvious town.

If you say so...

I say so, i know so and if you dont think so, i want your case followed by a damn vote tomorrow (if someone from your faction does not kill herself and me tonight).

You know your claim is exactly why you aren't obvtown, right?

I am because i claimed it on Day 1 without pressure as policy states when you rand town baby. I am because although everyone on Nutella’s wagon wanna claim a piece of town cred for her yeet, I CAUGHT HER FIRST and i must say that that day i was accused of scum reading her for wrong reasons too... by..... hmmm... yah Act, she said that my scumread on Nutella was weak.

The thing is that the more you call my reads and push “weak” the stronger i get, scum cant kill me without killing themselves and they cant yeet me because im obvious town! SUCK ON THAT MEN’S TIT BABY!

Guillo, your claim is obviously fake, and you're known for fakeclaiming as mafia, which again is why I don't think you're obv!town. I called you mafia rather flippantly, and look at you go. Still not sure of your alignment, but you aren't obv!town, and with a claim that reeks of trying to explain why you're still alive at D6, I will never lock!town you.

No one is saying any of your reads or your push are weak.

Well let's hope that scum shares your opinion and think my claim is fake too, now that would be glorious, im known for fake claiming as scum and as town too so fake claiming is actually NAI for me and i can prove it by showing you games where ive fake claimed as town, let me know if you need them. But not in this game boy!

Scum cant get rid of me unless they commit suicide! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Now... what are you honna say next to discredit my obvious town status Seanzie?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:42 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:38 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:35 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:29 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm @Guillotine, I see the semantics you’re talking about, but it rolls the other way too because the word “before” does technically mean before the present time, but the implicit use of “before” is a broad statement meaning more or less “ever.” So while Dana might be scum, this “trap” isn’t proof lol.

The entire playerlist can tell me that im wrong, but as one who fell for a townie's psychological games in the past, i can tell you right now that Dana psychologically admitted that she is scum now.

Listen, I’m not saying you’re wrong about Dana being scum lol. But there is no “psychological admission” here because, like I said, “before” doesn’t always mean what you think it means lol.

If anything, her response to your call out feels more of where we should be looking.

Well i was caught like that and if Dana flips wolf, then you guys are wrong and my theory is right.

Guillo, please never become a scientist.

Question, What do scum do when they get caught with their pants down, Seanzie?

They OMGUS;)

Noooo, town OMGUS boy!

Scum call it omgus to discredit the reaction to their scummy pushes.

No, scum start getting personal and throwing out insults.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:39 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:28 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:24 pm

Yes, this isn't the first time I've been scum... erhm... I mean what?

Today is the time i wished i was the Desperado instead of Belzy. Not goona lie.

Sorry, they don't let mafia be desperado.

Yah but im town, really obvious town.

If you say so...

I say so, i know so and if you dont think so, i want your case followed by a damn vote tomorrow (if someone from your faction does not kill herself and me tonight).

You know your claim is exactly why you aren't obvtown, right?

I am because i claimed it on Day 1 without pressure as policy states when you rand town baby. I am because although everyone on Nutella’s wagon wanna claim a piece of town cred for her yeet, I CAUGHT HER FIRST and i must say that that day i was accused of scum reading her for wrong reasons too... by..... hmmm... yah Act, she said that my scumread on Nutella was weak.

The thing is that the more you call my reads and push “weak” the stronger i get, scum cant kill me without killing themselves and they cant yeet me because im obvious town! SUCK ON THAT MEN’S TIT BABY!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:35 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:29 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm @Guillotine, I see the semantics you’re talking about, but it rolls the other way too because the word “before” does technically mean before the present time, but the implicit use of “before” is a broad statement meaning more or less “ever.” So while Dana might be scum, this “trap” isn’t proof lol.

The entire playerlist can tell me that im wrong, but as one who fell for a townie's psychological games in the past, i can tell you right now that Dana psychologically admitted that she is scum now.

Listen, I’m not saying you’re wrong about Dana being scum lol. But there is no “psychological admission” here because, like I said, “before” doesn’t always mean what you think it means lol.

If anything, her response to your call out feels more of where we should be looking.

Well i was caught like that and if Dana flips wolf, then you guys are wrong and my theory is right.

Guillo, please never become a scientist.

Question, What do scum do when they get caught with their pants down, Seanzie?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:28 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:24 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:19 pm

What does RTing mean? And what are your original scum reads?

Hush, don't worry. You won't die today. We have to kill Hawk first... yada yada yada, you know the rest of the script right?

Yes, this isn't the first time I've been scum... erhm... I mean what?

Today is the time i wished i was the Desperado instead of Belzy. Not goona lie.

Sorry, they don't let mafia be desperado.

Yah but im town, really obvious town.

If you say so...

I say so, i know so and if you dont think so, i want your case followed by a damn vote tomorrow (if someone from your faction does not kill herself and me tonight).

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:32 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:29 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm @Guillotine, I see the semantics you’re talking about, but it rolls the other way too because the word “before” does technically mean before the present time, but the implicit use of “before” is a broad statement meaning more or less “ever.” So while Dana might be scum, this “trap” isn’t proof lol.

The entire playerlist can tell me that im wrong, but as one who fell for a townie's psychological games in the past, i can tell you right now that Dana psychologically admitted that she is scum now.

Listen, I’m not saying you’re wrong about Dana being scum lol. But there is no “psychological admission” here because, like I said, “before” doesn’t always mean what you think it means lol.

If anything, her response to your call out feels more of where we should be looking.

Well i was caught like that and if Dana flips wolf, then you guys are wrong and my theory is right.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:28 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:24 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:15 pm Inb4 one of my original scum reads flips mafia.

How funny would it be to catch one scum RTing the other and backfiring.

What does RTing mean? And what are your original scum reads?

Hush, don't worry. You won't die today. We have to kill Hawk first... yada yada yada, you know the rest of the script right?

Yes, this isn't the first time I've been scum... erhm... I mean what?

Today is the time i wished i was the Desperado instead of Belzy. Not goona lie.

Sorry, they don't let mafia be desperado.

Yah but im town, really obvious town.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:26 pm @Guillotine, I see the semantics you’re talking about, but it rolls the other way too because the word “before” does technically mean before the present time, but the implicit use of “before” is a broad statement meaning more or less “ever.” So while Dana might be scum, this “trap” isn’t proof lol.

The entire playerlist can tell me that im wrong, but as one who fell for a townie's psychological games in the past, i can tell you right now that Dana psychologically admitted that she is scum now.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:24 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:22 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:15 pm Inb4 one of my original scum reads flips mafia.

How funny would it be to catch one scum RTing the other and backfiring.

What does RTing mean? And what are your original scum reads?

Hush, don't worry. You won't die today. We have to kill Hawk first... yada yada yada, you know the rest of the script right?

Yes, this isn't the first time I've been scum... erhm... I mean what?

Today is the time i wished i was the Desperado instead of Belzy. Not goona lie.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:15 pm Inb4 one of my original scum reads flips mafia.

How funny would it be to catch one scum RTing the other and backfiring.

What does RTing mean? And what are your original scum reads?

Hush, don't worry. You won't die today. We have to kill Hawk first... yada yada yada, you know the rest of the script right?

Inb4 one of my original scum reads flips mafia.

How funny would it be to catch one scum RTing the other and backfiring.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:12 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:11 pm If i was a day vig i'd shoot Dana now and shut all your mouths.

I dont think anybody here is currently saying that dana can't be mafia. We all just disagree with your interpretation of a couple of posts.

Hence why id shoot Dana to shut your mouths. See? You are the ones that are having a hard time interpreting things, not me.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:05 pm Dana is a newbie and i fell for that trap as a newbie when i randed scum in a game.

The townie asked me “Hey Guillo, have you randed scum before”, i didnt catch it, he implied “before now”, to which i naturally responded that i hadn't, which was true, i had not randed scum before that game. LOL

I think this is reaching. Honestly, the thing I did find suspicious about her answer there was that she didn't even acknowledge my other question.

I catch scum in ways others dont, people often call it “caught for the wrong reasons”.

If i was a day vig i'd shoot Dana now and shut all your mouths.

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:05 pm Dana is a newbie and i fell for that trap as a newbie when i randed scum in a game.

The townie asked me “Hey Guillo, have you randed scum before”, i didnt catch it, he implied “before now”, to which i naturally responded that i hadn't, which was true, i had not randed scum before that game. LOL

ok but I'm not a newbie and I have randed scum before this game

Yah that is not the point is it?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:08 pm Yeah I'm not seeing that. Seanzie did not ask "have you randed scum before this?". He asked "Have you randed scum before?". As in "At any time in the past, have you played a game as a member of the mafia team?". Not "Is this your first time being mafia?".

When you say before, it implies before the present. Come on now.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:04 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:59 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:56 pm
fell for what? what trap im so confused

He asked you if you had randed scum before this and you said yes. LMAO

Eh, I don't see it.

If you didnt intended it as a trap to which she fell for, why did you ask her that?

Dana is a newbie and i fell for that trap as a newbie when i randed scum in a game.

The townie asked me “Hey Guillo, have you randed scum before”, i didnt catch it, he implied “before now”, to which i naturally responded that i hadn't, which was true, i had not randed scum before that game. LOL

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:56 pm
fell for what? what trap im so confused

He asked you if you had randed scum before this and you said yes. LMAO

inb4 hawk flips mafia. What if Hawk is telling the truth, aka TruthWolfing?

The best way to lie in a game of lies is telling the truth.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:26 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:24 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:21 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:28 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:19 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:06 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm

This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?

hello nice to meet you! im excited to hang with so many new people and also see some old friends that I haven't chilled with in a while, and im nervous bc im not very good at mafia and I am very susceptible to being pocketed so I feel like I gotta watch my back and have a nice healthy dose of paranoia at all times

Hi, I am a Gnome! I spend a lot of time in the garden so I don't go out on very many dates. I understand about feeling nervous and excited and about the need to have a healthy dose of paranoia because I too get pcoketed a lot by eager scum! They are so charming that I end up on and I am not even aware of all of the noisy howls It is very sad. I am looking for a sweet towny date and feel nervous and excited about finding romance, despite the presence of scummy scum scum!

hi! what kind of plants do you grow in your garden? it sounds like it must be such a nice place to live. I feel like its gonna be hard to find someone with the same non-killing views but you seem to be okay so far!

Tell me more about how Gnome pocketed you.

ok maybe we got in each others pockets a little bit.. but they are town pockets! or at least mine is and I hope hers is too

Okay, thanks. I poked and you did okay. I still haven't sorted you yet, but I don't see you as clear mafia right now, so that is a good sign?

Eeeh what? After she fell for that you think she is ok?

Imagine that my day 1 reads were all on spot.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:11 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:08 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:07 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:58 pm Are you caught up on the thread right now?

Can you tell me about Nook, Mac and Gnome?

yes im generally caught up but with a good amount of skimming over some parts of the thread so I def might be missing things, but I feel like nook has just kinda been doing his thing which he does and I haven't been particularly pinged by anything he's said or done yet. I had a lil tinfoil about Mac but I think its been getting better and I also am willing to ignore it for now bc I think its worth finding the shallow wolves first before trying to hunt for deep wolves. my gnome read is probably my weakest townlean and I might need to update that read, but i think it was just a holdover in my brain from earlier on in the game

Have you ever randed scum before? If not, how do you like it?

only once in a turbo game many years ago and tbh I kind of hated it lol, thankfully it was over real quick though and I was caught pretty easily and early on from what I remember

Yeah, okay. I didn't want to believe it, but Dana bad.

Lol Nice trap Seanzie

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:27 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:26 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:21 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:16 pm Yah so your WIFOM wouldnt have worked yesterday. The poisoner didnt know you were exactly the healer to healer dodge and pick a different target than those in your town circle.

Yes
I know
I was always planning to claim today
Because then you sacrifice Long Con who has presumably been targeted partly because he's not towncore and they want the shot to go through (sorry bud)
And then you claim to have more shots that you don't want to waste on Long Con because he's not towncore
And then poisoner doesn't target towncore tomorrow

And you said you targeted Alison to heal her right?

Yes
I checked that the roleblock was a night action that would not interfere with my day action
I have already said this

Well if that is true, thank you for your service and rest assured that if you flip town, Martin will get crucified with iron nails nailed deep into their feet, knees, arms to a burning cross, where he will scream until he dies and even from the afterlife that won't be much of a beautiful afterlife, unless you call a beautiful afterlife one with lava, shit pools and 50 foot demons tormenting you and punishing you for eternity.

Unfortunately i scumread you for other reasons too. I'm sorry, if im wrong.

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:21 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:16 pm Yah so your WIFOM wouldnt have worked yesterday. The poisoner didnt know you were exactly the healer to healer dodge and pick a different target than those in your town circle.

Yes
I know
I was always planning to claim today
Because then you sacrifice Long Con who has presumably been targeted partly because he's not towncore and they want the shot to go through (sorry bud)
And then you claim to have more shots that you don't want to waste on Long Con because he's not towncore
And then poisoner doesn't target towncore tomorrow

And you said you targeted Alison to heal her right?

Yah so your WIFOM wouldnt have worked yesterday. The poisoner didnt know you were exactly the healer to healer dodge and pick a different target than those in your town circle.

@hawkataine please remind me, did you claim healer yesterday or today? (Day 2 or Day 3)

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:56 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:53 am

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:50 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:48 am

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:46 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:44 am By what I read from other players, Gavial is being painted as a loose cannon that would have killed JJJ for shits and giggles.

As a wild card myself i think he is being misunderstood and driving a narrative for what he’d do in that situation based on meta is a tremendous reach. Upon looking at Gavial’s ISO, he ended townreading JJJ by EoD, there is no reason to believe he’d play against his own wincon and kill JJJ.
Don’t confuse us as being game throwers for being natural gamblers and take risks that most players wouldnt, that is a big discredit for his legacy.

Gavial, do not worry, i will uncover what went down in that date.

EoD1 or EoD2?

His last EoD.

So I’m not sure that really matters in the situation then because the pairing was made during N1. How he was reading Jay at the end of D2 wouldn’t have affected the pairing.

What are you talking about? Galvian was not the cupid nor was JJJ?!!!!

They were paired up N1 though. We got the announcement at the start of D1. So like, his D2 reads wouldn’t have factored into Owner’s decision.

Right, that is why scum would kill within the date after seeing Gavial’s change of read towards JJJ. If scum selected between those two and they are both town is because they represented their biggest threat, right? If im scum and i see that the likelyhood of two date kills equals to zero because of that, i’d kill within date the biggest threat to make sure.

Instead they kill Kito. No disrespect for Kito, he is a great player, but there are bigger players here who if town pose a bigger threat such as Mac, JJJ or Seanzie for example.

So either Kito correctly scum read someone we havent or Kito’s kill was a distraction from what’s really going on.

Honestly if either JJJ or Mac survive tonight, I’d start worrying.

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:53 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:48 am “ I can’t claim 2-shot healer anymore”, so... you intended to fake claim and Martin’s claim prevented you from doing so?

Yup

If I use my 1 shot to save someone in the town circle, I can no longer save anyone. The poisoner probably goes for someone who's not in the town circle on the next day, because they don't want their target to be saved again. That means I don't have to save that person on that day. Then when I claim 2-shot, they still can't risk poisoning anyone who might be worthy of my last heal shot. So it's the only way I could think of to protect as many of the top town reads as possible with only one shot

I see. So you were trying to WIFOM the poisoner even though the poisoner didnt know you were the healer in the first place.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:50 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:48 am

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:46 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:44 am By what I read from other players, Gavial is being painted as a loose cannon that would have killed JJJ for shits and giggles.

As a wild card myself i think he is being misunderstood and driving a narrative for what he’d do in that situation based on meta is a tremendous reach. Upon looking at Gavial’s ISO, he ended townreading JJJ by EoD, there is no reason to believe he’d play against his own wincon and kill JJJ.
Don’t confuse us as being game throwers for being natural gamblers and take risks that most players wouldnt, that is a big discredit for his legacy.

Gavial, do not worry, i will uncover what went down in that date.

EoD1 or EoD2?

His last EoD.

So I’m not sure that really matters in the situation then because the pairing was made during N1. How he was reading Jay at the end of D2 wouldn’t have affected the pairing.

What are you talking about? Galvian was not the cupid nor was JJJ?!!!!

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:46 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:44 am By what I read from other players, Gavial is being painted as a loose cannon that would have killed JJJ for shits and giggles.

As a wild card myself i think he is being misunderstood and driving a narrative for what he’d do in that situation based on meta is a tremendous reach. Upon looking at Gavial’s ISO, he ended townreading JJJ by EoD, there is no reason to believe he’d play against his own wincon and kill JJJ.
Don’t confuse us as being game throwers for being natural gamblers and take risks that most players wouldnt, that is a big discredit for his legacy.

Gavial, do not worry, i will uncover what went down in that date.

EoD1 or EoD2?

His last EoD.

“ I can’t claim 2-shot healer anymore”, so... you intended to fake claim and Martin’s claim prevented you from doing so?

By what I read from other players, Gavial is being painted as a loose cannon that would have killed JJJ for shits and giggles.

As a wild card myself i think he is being misunderstood and driving a narrative for what he’d do in that situation based on meta is a tremendous reach. Upon looking at Gavial’s ISO, he ended townreading JJJ by EoD, there is no reason to believe he’d play against his own wincon and kill JJJ.
Don’t confuse us as being game throwers for being natural gamblers and take risks that most players wouldnt, that is a big discredit for his legacy.

Gavial, do not worry, i will uncover what went down in that date.

I was thinking this morning that Martin could be scum to bait the real healer out and with some luck get him yeeted, if he knew the poisoner was scum aligned and he is a deepwolf, justifying his sacrifice to out the healer, clearing the path for the poisoner to kill uninterruptedly, along with the factional kill.

But then i remember that hawk had claimed two shot healer and then backtracked on her own vlaim to 1-shot, Gavial’s roleblock claim and lack of factional night kill, her scummy vote on Made instead of on Nutella because it was spicier and I just wanna vote Hawk.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:20 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:18 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

There is no way Mafia don't kill both jailkept players who are immune to any abilities but kills.

So mafia had 2 nks?

I had missed this. Yes, believing the JJJ claim (i still dont) of how things went down on his date with Gavial. The date is a night kill and the mafia’s factional kill it’s 2.
Mafia would have made sure to kill between the players that cant be protected (the date).

Did they claim watchers today or yesterday?