The Syndicate

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:28 pm Given I'm the only one in this game who is hyper aware of Luck's heavy bussing meta I feel like he'd not comment on it and either kill me off or discredit me so he doesn't have to worry about it.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:08 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:49 am Nanook is town, I think as well,
His reads ring clear and true today,
Normal scum Nook will tell,
By playing coy with diplomay

so, like, notably as of this post nanook has given basically no serious reads whatsoever so this is a really weird read

Lmao.

Nanook has expressed in previous games that Gavial's constant requests for people to sheep him are bad for town.

His intentional "LET'S SHEEP GAV" feels like petty Nanook being Petty.

Which is unironically rand!v for him.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:02 pm Like, I don't think it's great for town to have a lot of antagonistic behavior plus a lot of detached players. I don't do well in those kinds of environment. So I'm tired of it.

I'm just trying to have some fun in an otherwise annoyingly aggro game

Yes, but that fun of yours is making the game more annoying for me. =p

I am genuinely interested in your thoughts on Wisp, among other things. If you have any.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:02 pm Like, I don't think it's great for town to have a lot of antagonistic behavior plus a lot of detached players. I don't do well in those kinds of environment. So I'm tired of it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:58 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:56 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Because he doesn't have any investment in helping town which is sad.

Sheeping gav's incredible reads IS helping town. If we just follow his reads we'd win like every game, haven't you heard? Just ask him, he'll tell you.

funnycool

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:03 am I think we should all let gavial make our choices and see what happens. Sheep his poe after he dies, of course. He wants to he sheeped, let's see what happens if we do.

I think it'll be very funny either way.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:57 pm Kinda sketchy angleshootey read. Confidence level low but something I thought of.

In Smilies Mafia DVC, Gavial was complaining about how if everyone just sheeped him every time, town would always win because his reads were so great. Nanook was there and objected to it on the basis that his reads were inconsistent in quality and often contained wild leaps of logic.

I could see nanook deciding it would be funny to give Gavial what he wanted and hard sheep him, reasoning that either Gavial is wrong and has to shut up about asking to be sheeped or Gavial is right and he gets a free win.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:56 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Because he doesn't have any investment in helping town which is sad.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:53 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:50 pmThat is for real im farming all my reads out to seth this game, hes my reads master

Wow you're so funny and cool and unique.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:43 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:41 pm But yes you're right I should say you get mis pushed a lot

What would be your judgement on his alignment right now?

Idk whatever gav says is what id say

No, for real, please.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:42 pm LIke let's look at what is going on with this supposed Wisp breakdown.

Wisp is saying that they don't feel interested in playing the game any more because...

because what?

Because I'm aggro and tunnely? They didn't seem to have a problem playing when I was tunnelling Gira and Luckbox. It's only a problem when it's on them?

Because there's a lot of meta reads flying around?

Which ones? I've outed exactly one new meta read, which is the read on Luck. Are we to believe that a town Wisp can't handle one person meta townreading another person?

Then there's the whole "oh, woe is me, nobody has meta on me so I will die in ignominy" crap. They have 2 votes on them and it's halfway through the day. Dizzy has said that he thinks Wisp is town. A townie has no reason to be this dejected and accepting of defeat here.

I think it's a bullshit narrative intended to sell the idea of Wisp being town who has deflated and knows they're innocent but feels helpless to defend themselves from it. Problem is, Wisp has no reason to feel that way as town, so the story doesn't hold water to me.

Meh i think this is largely wrong and makes incorrect assumptions about how people like wisp behave/process things

What's your model of how Wisp behaves and processes things?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:42 pm LIke let's look at what is going on with this supposed Wisp breakdown.

Wisp is saying that they don't feel interested in playing the game any more because...

because what?

Because I'm aggro and tunnely? They didn't seem to have a problem playing when I was tunnelling Gira and Luckbox. It's only a problem when it's on them?

Because there's a lot of meta reads flying around?

Which ones? I've outed exactly one new meta read, which is the read on Luck. Are we to believe that a town Wisp can't handle one person meta townreading another person?

Then there's the whole "oh, woe is me, nobody has meta on me so I will die in ignominy" crap. They have 2 votes on them and it's halfway through the day. Dizzy has said that he thinks Wisp is town. A townie has no reason to be this dejected and accepting of defeat here.

I think it's a bullshit narrative intended to sell the idea of Wisp being town who has deflated and knows they're innocent but feels helpless to defend themselves from it. Problem is, Wisp has no reason to feel that way as town, so the story doesn't hold water to me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:41 pm But yes you're right I should say you get mis pushed a lot

What would be your judgement on his alignment right now?

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:40 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:37 pm He does get miskilled a lot, or he used to at least

No I don't, I have only been misyeeted 3 times in my 6 years of playing mafia, twice by DLP, both in games where I was burying wolves. And on MU where I got trolled by my friend who thought it was hilarious to make shit up

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:29 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:29 pm Meh Alison still makes me not want to play the game, idk how to handle all these meta reads. Feels like I should just accept that nobody knows me and die and flip town.

People do know you though.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME What can you tell me about the Wisp/Chad?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:02 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:51 pm [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

Sorry diz, the master compels me

Thoughts on Ender's TR of you?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:51 pm [VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

Sorry diz, the master compels me

You live to make me suffer, just admit it.