The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 pm @hawkataine @Kito got bad bunny reads?

Other than that one thing I mentioned at the time where she was talking around nutella towards day end, I got very little. She is currently in F4 on MafC so I'm kind of waiting to see how well she reenters here when that's over. Not sure if I have any meta on her somehow ',:/

Oh bad bunny is wisty @ whoever asked I think it was JJJ

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:58 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:52 pm The only positive I can offer for bad bunny is "PerC people told me she's town", which doesn't seem to apply to Owner.

Both are hard POE for me.

Which PerC people are saying she’s town?

Allcrab seemed quite confident. I don't believe they were the only one, though I'd need to go refresh myself.

They're a bit of a package deal, I'm a bit unclear on how well they read each other but I'd expect that out of the blue strength of read at least xD

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:49 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:46 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:45 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm

@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh

you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon

hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe

The buddying warms my heart but you've already said that today, try again :P
(I've evolved from a ball of anxiety to a ball of paranoia, it would seem)

next stop ball of mania

*eagerly fills out 24x24 madness spreadsheet while bleeding out of eyes*

oh you were original interactions grid person? can you finish that off yet?

I've been sleeping and working since I posted yesterday so not much has been done but I am working on it again now

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:44 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.

@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh

you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon

Sounds terrible.
Oh, and can you tell me how you're reading Owner right now?
And why do you think that you're a leading wagon?
Who are you reading as scum right now.
Please forgive me if these questions have already been asked and answered. I've been reading and catching up.

My thoughts on owner haven't evolved from like 20 pages ago primarily because I haven't read most of them yet
I think she looks bad from nutella interactions and specifically how nutella didn't seem interested in encouraging a wagon there when it was the most popular alternative to herself (nanook admittedly disagrees with my take on this which I am considering), also she's reminding me of when she subbed into tripped on adventure as scum
I've probably talked enough about myself at this point, promise the answers already are posted
I haven't really had time to consolidate my reads yet but at the very least the people I'm gonna reread for suspicion reasons today include owner, sonny, act... probably I should find some TS people as well hrm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:46 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:45 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.

@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh

you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon

hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe

The buddying warms my heart but you've already said that today, try again :P
(I've evolved from a ball of anxiety to a ball of paranoia, it would seem)

next stop ball of mania

*eagerly fills out 24x24 madness spreadsheet while bleeding out of eyes*

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.

@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh

you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon

hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe

The buddying warms my heart but you've already said that today, try again :P
(I've evolved from a ball of anxiety to a ball of paranoia, it would seem)

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.

@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh

you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon

wow I apologise for interrupting the memeing with an essay lol

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:09 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:04 pm I don’t mean to drive down this tunnel...but I really think Dana is scum, y’all. I do not like the question about Nutella’s flip (feels like a forced derp), and I do not like this reiteration of the reads list. I think I’m going to trust my D1 initial instinct right now because D2 hasn’t changed my mind yet. Her reads are trying too hard. She isn’t really scum hunting, I really believe she is spending more time on her appearance than finding scum. Call me crazy, but like...my vote is going back there haha.

What’s your read on Hawk

I have no confident read on Hawk. Didn’t mind her reaction to your red check post, but I know Hawk is really level-headed so I’m not surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised if she is fully lying to you either lol. I guess that’s where I’m at. The only read I’m feeling confident on atm is Dana.

This post really seems like Act knows I'm town
Like she never says it but it vibes that way
Significant sideye

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:09 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:50 pm I put no stock in Gavial's mechanical claims about you, if it helps. It is a non-factor in my read of you.
What is your read of him?

Fair enough

I have been avoiding commenting on him because my only experience with him is a game I'm currently modding on MafC - I will let you know once it ends tho

Any thought in general on the suspicion against you today?

ngl it's fair enough but incredibly frustrating
I have a very bad handle on the thread rn because I'm still catching up on like the last ten pages (did Belzy die????) but
as far as I can tell there's like three reasons:

1) My made vote
Yeah I mean I'm pretty frustrated that there seem to be people who were townreading my actual posts yesterday but this one naked vote has caused that to evaporate despite me explicitly saying I do questionable things with my vote at EoD as town
Like how bad do you think my scum game is jeez
It's hard to believe that this is real thoughts but also I don't trust myself that there are actually people who think this and I'm not just tilted, I've lost track, am rereading and will get back to you xD
2) Gavial's 'red check'
Which tbh I thought it was a joke and still am half convinced it was a joke and I'm annoyed I've had to spill whatever beans about my role over this, it's role madness, move on already
3) Lack of interaction with nutella/didn't vote nutella despite building a case
I already addressed this a little bit, there's a ton of players, I don't know her, I was asking for meta/TS weigh-ins so I could act on suspicions better but I don't remember getting responses, already explained why I didn't vote there. I also didn't vote anybody else or interact with a whole ton of other players. People taking this angle are mostly fine tbh.

Also I'm yet to find out why Sonny's voting me because he hasn't even arrived in the thread where I'm reading but he's definitely getting some preemptive sideeye for it because et tu Brute

Anway I apologise this turned into a bit of a rant, I'm still reading and will hopefully have more educated thoughts after that

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:50 pm I put no stock in Gavial's mechanical claims about you, if it helps. It is a non-factor in my read of you.
What is your read of him?

Fair enough

I have been avoiding commenting on him because my only experience with him is a game I'm currently modding on MafC - I will let you know once it ends tho

Can I just double check that day doesn't end in like 2 hours and it's actually more like 26
Kito's talking like it's twilight xD

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:45 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:39 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:36 pm oh jeez gavial's claim really snowballed didn't it

I have a limited shot ability that I really don't want to claim but I did not go anywhere or do anything last night. Like literally nothing happened. Either he's lying or redirection etc. has happened

I’m pretty sure his entire claim os that he targeted you with a roleblock. There does not need to be a lie on either end here.

oh wild tbh
do scum get to choose who does the kill on this site?

It’s a requirement in any game like this one, yes.

in which case it's a hilarious concept that anyone thinks I'd agree to do the kill after the recency bias of day end in a role madness game
but oh well
like that likelihood is definitely not higher than the likelihood of gavial roleblocking literally anyone in the game and the kill also being stopped by something else in role madness

derpclear denied etc etc but also I'd like an answer

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:35 pm omg hugs, you got this!!!!!!!!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:36 pm Good luck with the conference!

Ty both <3

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:39 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:36 pm oh jeez gavial's claim really snowballed didn't it

I have a limited shot ability that I really don't want to claim but I did not go anywhere or do anything last night. Like literally nothing happened. Either he's lying or redirection etc. has happened

I’m pretty sure his entire claim os that he targeted you with a roleblock. There does not need to be a lie on either end here.

oh wild tbh
do scum get to choose who does the kill on this site?

oh jeez gavial's claim really snowballed didn't it

I have a limited shot ability that I really don't want to claim but I did not go anywhere or do anything last night. Like literally nothing happened. Either he's lying or redirection etc. has happened

well that wagon grew and ngl I'm having a terrible day and have a deadline for my first conference tomorrow so I'm just a ball of anxiety rn :')

if it means anything to anyone I can probably clear myself by tomorrow
but like
lol game

gonna go read now

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:39 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:37 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:34 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:33 pm If another wagon grows and you haven’t claimed your target and result I will hard claim and expose you!

@hawkataine

you won't you giant baby

Yeah I think Hawk is chicken!

At least answer me this.
Did you visit anyone at all last night?

I did not.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:37 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:18 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:13 pm guess I'll go make this chart better in a quest for stars from Mac
given that nobody seems to actually want to ask me anything lol

You did not seem particularly invested in yesterday's outcome. You voted for Made after catching up near the deadline, but you did so with an attitude that amounted to a shrug. Do you object to this characterization of your End of Day posture? Why did you prefer Made over nutella?

I wanted flips of some kind, I didn't specifically want made dead but I did want to know if that was a wagon that had potential to grow compared to owner who had seemed static, as I was pretty suspicious of how small the owner wagon was. Also some people who seemed to think they could read nutella started expressing doubts quite close to day end so that threw me off a bit. I'm a chaotic EoD voter by nature and very prone to short-term influence by general thread direction, so I will often intentionally store up town reads on myself during the day and tank them at day end for data xD

I had suspicion of nutella during the day, tbh possibly my strongest suspicion which is not saying much because I was mainly making town reads. The reason I didn't ever vote there is by the time I read the thread properly on Sunday she already had a 6-or-7 person wagon or something and I didn't think it was necessary to put her further in the lead, again for wagonomics reasons. If the wagon had started to deflate I probably would have voted there but I appreciate that's utterly meaningless to say now xD

TLDR I didn't particularly want made dead. If I was actually trying to get the wagon off nutella and onto him I probably would have either tried to defend nutella a bit or tried to shade made a bit, instead of laying a naked vote.

Also as an aside I assume Gavial's red check is a joke because it was like the fourth one in a row and it's also wrong but uh if people are voting me just based on that then make yourselves known so I can be annoyed at you ty

Were you aware of the deadline when you voted?

I was, but I was expecting to be able to stay on top of the thread as it moved which uh really didn't happen

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:34 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:33 pm If another wagon grows and you haven’t claimed your target and result I will hard claim and expose you!

@hawkataine

you won't you giant baby

Yeah I think Hawk is chicken!

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:33 pm If another wagon grows and you haven’t claimed your target and result I will hard claim and expose you!

@hawkataine

noted

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:29 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:18 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:13 pm guess I'll go make this chart better in a quest for stars from Mac
given that nobody seems to actually want to ask me anything lol

You did not seem particularly invested in yesterday's outcome. You voted for Made after catching up near the deadline, but you did so with an attitude that amounted to a shrug. Do you object to this characterization of your End of Day posture? Why did you prefer Made over nutella?

I wanted flips of some kind, I didn't specifically want made dead but I did want to know if that was a wagon that had potential to grow compared to owner who had seemed static, as I was pretty suspicious of how small the owner wagon was. Also some people who seemed to think they could read nutella started expressing doubts quite close to day end so that threw me off a bit. I'm a chaotic EoD voter by nature and very prone to short-term influence by general thread direction, so I will often intentionally store up town reads on myself during the day and tank them at day end for data xD

I had suspicion of nutella during the day, tbh possibly my strongest suspicion which is not saying much because I was mainly making town reads. The reason I didn't ever vote there is by the time I read the thread properly on Sunday she already had a 6-or-7 person wagon or something and I didn't think it was necessary to put her further in the lead, again for wagonomics reasons. If the wagon had started to deflate I probably would have voted there but I appreciate that's utterly meaningless to say now xD

TLDR I didn't particularly want made dead. If I was actually trying to get the wagon off nutella and onto him I probably would have either tried to defend nutella a bit or tried to shade made a bit, instead of laying a naked vote.

Also as an aside I assume Gavial's red check is a joke because it was like the fourth one in a row and it's also wrong but uh if people are voting me just based on that then make yourselves known so I can be annoyed at you ty

It’s not a JOKE AT ALL.

But It’s only red situational.
So I need your target and results.

Okay, in which I promise you do not actually have this red check

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:18 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:13 pm guess I'll go make this chart better in a quest for stars from Mac
given that nobody seems to actually want to ask me anything lol

You did not seem particularly invested in yesterday's outcome. You voted for Made after catching up near the deadline, but you did so with an attitude that amounted to a shrug. Do you object to this characterization of your End of Day posture? Why did you prefer Made over nutella?

I wanted flips of some kind, I didn't specifically want made dead but I did want to know if that was a wagon that had potential to grow compared to owner who had seemed static, as I was pretty suspicious of how small the owner wagon was. Also some people who seemed to think they could read nutella started expressing doubts quite close to day end so that threw me off a bit. I'm a chaotic EoD voter by nature and very prone to short-term influence by general thread direction, so I will often intentionally store up town reads on myself during the day and tank them at day end for data xD

I had suspicion of nutella during the day, tbh possibly my strongest suspicion which is not saying much because I was mainly making town reads. The reason I didn't ever vote there is by the time I read the thread properly on Sunday she already had a 6-or-7 person wagon or something and I didn't think it was necessary to put her further in the lead, again for wagonomics reasons. If the wagon had started to deflate I probably would have voted there but I appreciate that's utterly meaningless to say now xD

TLDR I didn't particularly want made dead. If I was actually trying to get the wagon off nutella and onto him I probably would have either tried to defend nutella a bit or tried to shade made a bit, instead of laying a naked vote.

Also as an aside I assume Gavial's red check is a joke because it was like the fourth one in a row and it's also wrong but uh if people are voting me just based on that then make yourselves known so I can be annoyed at you ty

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:17 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:13 pm guess I'll go make this chart better in a quest for stars from Mac
given that nobody seems to actually want to ask me anything lol

does green mean compatible or cleared as partners?

green is compatible

it is worth noting that I also have a tab with my reads which kinda trump the big chart in cases such as guillo where he's almost certainly not teamed with nutella lol, also it is a very small sample size at present

guess I'll go make this chart better in a quest for stars from Mac
given that nobody seems to actually want to ask me anything lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:01 pm Without doing a lick of research and simply asking the clouds:

hawkataine seems like an agreeable vote.

I wanna see that interaction matrix tho

I only started it like 2 hours before day started but hey

You get zero stars

so does your read on me yet here we are

Kito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:02 pm I have precisely no clue whatsoever what is supposed to be scummy about any of hawk's posts tbh

lol I'm too used to relying on people knowing my meta xD

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:01 pm Without doing a lick of research and simply asking the clouds:

hawkataine seems like an agreeable vote.

I wanna see that interaction matrix tho

I only started it like 2 hours before day started but hey

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:56 pm @hawkataine
I may or may not have a red check on you.
What did you do last night?

lol

Kito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:52 pm If the poll displays votes in order then guillo more or less hammered nutella, or could've swapped last moment, or did a completely unnecessary bus. So he can be town and my belzy/guillo angle was stupid after all lol.

it doesn't and I'm super sad about it

but he was around at day end so it's as good as

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm Hawk said some things to me a while ago and I want to respond before it gets lost.

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:26 am Similar thing here, I appreciate you encouraging us but I guess I was suspicious of it? xD Especially because you were not a prime top-posting culprit

I am normally one of the prime top-posting culprits, and I have been consciously restrained this game, as well as some temporary time-constraints. I do not understand why this is something that would factor into a suspicion at all, though. Could you explain this thought process some more? Why does this particular incongruity factor into your ideas about my alignment at all?

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:26 am This one is still a bit pingy to me because of the way it's worded, like it's not really an answer to the question, I can't tell if you mean you don't mind other people forming town squads (in which case that's really not an answer or even much of a statement), or if this is actually a comment on the content of those town squads (in which case you sort of do have a town squad?).

Anyway these were the sorts of posts that I was sideeyeing you for, even if I had forgotten exactly what the content of them was

I was answering Jay specifically. Think of us as an old married couple with our own mode of communication. We've played a zillion games together and tend to follow the same playbook, so when one of us asks a question to the other, it is usually for a very specific reason. I can try to explain what was going on in this particular exchange:

Jay and I will usually both start the game out by trying to identify as many solid town reads as we can on Day 1. From there, we'll work toward narrowing down the pool of suspects until we have a small group of suspects that the "towncore" can agree on. Then things are re-evaluated on Day 2 onward, etc., etc.

But I haven't been participating actively in that gameplan here. I've been hanging out in the background instead. I returned to the thread and announced that I was up to date. Jay saw that and asked me if I had my own list of town reads, as he and others had provided. My answer was no, I did not have such a list. But I also had no major disagreements with the players who had been receiving town-reads up to that point. So I said that. Worded in a way that will make sense to the person who asked it, because it was a question that was very specifically tailored to me.

I think my vague thoughts were that it was weird you were telling other people to be quieter as I guess I didn't think PerC people were likely to fill the void so it was like shutting down the thread a little bit. Which is honestly a noble goal in retrospect, I was very much skimming to catch up and it was the impression that remained more than the reasoning, but you asked which posts sparked the impression so I answered even though my reasoning is bad xD

Ty for the JJJ explanation, is also good to know that you normally are a higher poster as that makes context clearer

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:35 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:32 pm My PoE today

Belzy
Owner
Hawk
LongCon
Dana

Someone from this list must be yeeted today.

@Owner of a Lonely Heart I gave you a second chance yesterday. Town up and show me it was the right decision.

I ask this as what felt like the only person entertaining Hawk's name in relation to suspicion yesterday: Why is Hawk's name on this list?

I already stated why I suspect him, look into my ISO, you'll see it, I also thought you looked good from it.

hellooooo I am still female
you're clearly not interested in actually picking my brains over this so lmk if you change your mind and have questions lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:32 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:30 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm Owner is still a prime suspect. I have no reason off-hand to change that view.

I don't really know what to make of her, I think the most suspect thing she's done is shade various people without really... seeming like solving or anything? I need to see how she's trying to contribute to that, you know. At least, that's what I think offhand.

This doubles as a good paraphrase of how nutella was pushing owner

Before nutella wagon took off

So

Probably not partners imo

The thing that bugged me about their interaction was that nutella had been shading owner gently pretty much all day but never really pushed there, and then when she came back while the leading wagon she still didn't seem interested in trying to form a wagon there at all, even though owner had the next most votes. Idk if someone more familiar with nutella could comment on whether that means anything?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:23 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

I have literally never seen a human do that who isn't me (that exact kind of colored matrix). Please carry on hawkwataine. Please carry on.

omg amazing news

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Assessing the Made wagon requires answering one core question first: what is Made's alignment? At face value I think his nutella vote is bussing-compatible. The only reason to doubt that is that his wagon swelled all the way to 7 votes. That might be the more important factor.

It actually reached 8 votes and a tie for like a millisecond, unless my eyes deceived me or there was a poll glitch. I didn't have the presence of mind to screen cap it before it returned to 8-7. This was within seconds of the poll closing. Someone needs to own up to that.

yeah I agree it's not impossible they're both scum, the thing that's bugging me is why the owner wagon failed to take off where the made wagon soared up to 8 votes if made is scum too

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Are role madness closed setup games common on PerC?

they used to be when I was playing a lot but not anymore so much

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 pm Guillo's whole exchange with nutella around 1319 is hella dodge but also he was around at EoD and on her wagon so big shrug

I'm spewed town by Nutella big time, i pushed and campaigned for Nutella's yeet. Look elsewhere, scum can't kill me at night and I won't get yeeted, I'm scum's biggest nightmare. In your face!

bud I literally said I'm town reading you in the next bullet point that you cut out

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:19 pm I'd like to blast into my token interactive analyses. That's going to be challenging with 900 players especially as I am getting quite busy outside this game. Who wants to volunteer to help old man Jay out with some names?

idk what exactly you mean by this but I currently have a 24x24 chart I'm filling out with teaming likelihood colours lmao

Dana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm good morning! anyone know what a factional kill modifier does? I couldn't seem to find any information from searching that term

presumably things like strongman or ninja or whatever? wow this is some real 2015 brain I'm digging through here

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:14 pm This was very shady from Hawk.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 04#p795404

Sloonie picked up the same scummy vibes from Hawk from this post. That looks good for Sloonie.

yeah I will not argue you on this, although I will argue you saying 'picked up vibes' because let's be real it was very explicitly shady xD

I can provide self-meta on my EoD voting tendencies but tbh I don't remember when it's from or who might remember it or when my last scum game was and I know people hate self-meta so that will be available on request xD

Okay so some (mostly unintelligible sorry) notes:

- Belzy keeps listing scum 'in random order' which is making me uncomfortable. Does always include nutella tho
- Guillo's whole exchange with nutella around 1319 is hella dodge but also he was around at EoD and on her wagon so big shrug
- Guillo has good town reads in 1819 as in I agree with all of them, also 1838 is a good post, overall guillo can be town tbh but I'm not happy about it xD
- Made's vote on nutella was very weird and opportunistic and not very substantiated, his wagon grew much quicker than owner's and that wasn't really for lack of trying
- LC's vote on belzy is a lil dodge but I do get the vibe he rocked up and assessed recommendations instead of really reading so it's okay?
- Nutella doesn't seem to do a hard push in owner's direction even though she votes for her and has been for a while, said she'll vote there for self pres?
- Oh sloonei actually replied to me in 1998 whoops sorry I'll get to that in a sec
- Gnome's "no matter how you flip" in 2221 is a lil bit sus given this was after twilight and afaict everyone had assumed nutella was town from how she was acting

niiiiiiiice

I would like to start today by apologising for generally explaining nothing at the end of yesterday, I was very overwhelmed by the thread speed and things happening irl around me xD sometimes I just vote to make things interesting and it looks bad but uh now I have sus on owner so that's something that's come out of it at least

good job everyone who stayed on nutella lol

dp we get a final vote count or do I need to screenshot this poll?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:36 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:34 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:31 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:30 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:27 pm Hey @Actvscenei you may want to move your vote ASAP.

Why and to whom?

Too late now, just... your vote was sitting on a person and you're the only vote. It isn't accomplishing anything active, that's all.

I tried the whole voting with consensus thing a couple times and it did me dirty lol. If the person I suspect the most happens to be the consensus vote, then so be it. But I won’t vote just because it’s the wagon. Dana is my top suspect with Belzy following close behind. That’s my vote.

If me/made is v/v this is wolf who didnt care

I can vouch for this opinion being true, but admittedly doesn't mean she's not a wolf xD

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:32 pm My thoughts hinge on the flip, but I do think the day ended better than it could have or looked like it might. There ought to be plenty to work with.

Yeah I think there's a lot to unpack and I also think I cannot process everything that's here right now xD hyped to reread overnight tbh

bad bunny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:29 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:17 pm Okay scratch that this thread is growing faster than I can read it so I will read from both ends xD I got this far with my notes

- Fable's entrance seems pretty good around 1805
- Wisty's talking around nutella seems bad if nutella flips town
- Guillo's reads in 1819 look pretty unobjectionable (except Belzy) but tbf his town pile is smaller than lots of other peoples'
- Speaking of which I would like to hear more from Belzy and I hope she's not just skating by on the town cred she got early on
- And Act?? Oh wait she's back nvm

Idk you were like 'yeah I have no opinion on nutella' but didn't seem to try to form one by going to reread her or anything?

bad bunny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: owner] aubergine

do you expect this to achieve anything ',:/

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:25 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:22 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:21 pm I'm kinda down with a made vote

[VOTE: made] aubergine

I'm pretty chill with nutella dying as well but this is spicier

owner I would like to give more time

I still have vague feelings that hawk is mafia.

yeah I am sorry for naked vote but I have thought very little about made so far and I'm trying to not spend the last few minutes reading xD

So why are you voting for made?

I stuck a vote down for general thread presence reasons and then went to read his ISO, I see not very much and some things like "ask me questions I should have opinions about" which are suitably pingy for me to keep this vote

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:23 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:21 pm I'm kinda down with a made vote

[VOTE: made] aubergine

I'm pretty chill with nutella dying as well but this is spicier

owner I would like to give more time

Why is it spicier?

closer wagons

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:22 pm

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:21 pm I'm kinda down with a made vote

[VOTE: made] aubergine

I'm pretty chill with nutella dying as well but this is spicier

owner I would like to give more time

I still have vague feelings that hawk is mafia.

yeah I am sorry for naked vote but I have thought very little about made so far and I'm trying to not spend the last few minutes reading xD

I'm kinda down with a made vote

[VOTE: made] aubergine

I'm pretty chill with nutella dying as well but this is spicier

owner I would like to give more time