The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:31 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:27 pm why are you reading yourself?
It would be spicy and fun if you put yourself in the PoE pool. Which reminds me. How did you pick the players for the PoE pool? Or how did you pick the players for town reads? You just made a list. It looks kind of random without any explanations at all. You don't have to give detailed explanations of every player but you could at least say something about each group?

I have building on this list throughout my 240some posts. Explanations can be found around my ISO if you want them for at least most of those players.

The players in the POE pool are the ones that aren't town reads. That's really it, and it's all I care about at this point. Town and not town reads. Binary. The tiers just add a little layer of confidence for me to tinker with.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:55 pm Idk how to phrase this exactly uuuhhhhhh.....is made a brave wolf?

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:48 am Strong town read
Dana
Guillotine
Tangrowth
Sonny

Town read
Alison
Gavial
hawkataine
Kito
MacDougall
MartinGG99
Nanook
Sloonei

Town read enough for POE purposes
Belzy
Long Con

POE pool
Actvscenei
Allcrab
bad bunny
Garden Gnome
lost monkey
Made
nutella
Owner
Seanzie

I can probably afford a slightly larger POE pool by the numbers, so consider that third tier "pseudo-POE" if you want. I do read those two more in the town direction than not though. This feels pretty good for a Day 1 product so all y'all pat yourselves on the back for doing the work to project your town hearts if this list is at least mostly accurate.

7 put of 9 of your POE pool are from Percy. Townread on Gavial surprises me. Do you make easier town reads on people you are familiair with?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:09 am

bad bunny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:51 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 8:24 pm Everyone: top three town and top three mafia GO

youre a wolf arent you

Why?

hawkataine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:04 am For random context on Owner, here are two anecdotes

One time we played a 24-player game where everyone was town on D1. Owner got yeeted.
One time Owner subbed in as scum in F4 and spent the whole time slowly catching up and playing in the past to avoid suspicion in the present.

I'm reminded of both of these scenarios atm and idk what to make of that. I can absolutely understand being behind on this monstrous thread xD but also I want her to play with us in real time </3

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 6:28 pm My goal is to pocket half the living players at any given time.

Dana wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 6:26 pm I want to get in a (town) pocket, it sounds so cozy!

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:45 pm Good morning everyone!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:35 pm @Garden Gnome, may I suggest an avatar?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:49 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 6:21 am Also hi, JJJ,

What exactly do you expect from a scum!Tang having an agenda, and having a lower comfort level, so far at a Day 1?

I will preface this by saying pure meta reads don't tend to play a huge role in my views, outside perhaps with Sloonei. So I can assign some "expectations" to a mafia-aligned Tangrowth, but take the following with many grains of salt. I would hardly build a case on this basis:

~ In the past, mafia Tangrowth has had a greater tendency to play with a tone of severity -- not necessarily "hostile", but more aggressive and less accommodating.
~ In that way, there'd be inherently less appearance of comfort and more of a sense of immediate and undue urgency.

Again, I don't care much about these notions. But I wanted to answer your question.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:31 am

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.

I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.

Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.

I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?

You and @Tangrowth would be a good match imo

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:36 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:33 am

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.

I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.

Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.

I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?

I'm looking for the bad kind. Sociopaths, murderers, pimpettes, thieves etc. Because they are so fun on surface but then as the relationship progresses it becomes a toxic relationship to die or kill for.

Yah...

spicy

bad bunny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:36 am

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:58 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:14 pm First date icebreaker question for everyone: what’s your favorite trip you’ve ever been on?

Disney World/Disney Cruises. And you?

Follow up, why did you choose to ask this particular question?

Hi!

To the PerC people and/or anyone else who wants to answer:

1) what do you think you bring to a game when you're town?
2) what do you hope to accomplish this game?

1) salt
2) uhhhmm a town win

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:33 am

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.

I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.

Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.

I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?

I'm looking for the bad kind. Sociopaths, murderers, pimpettes, thieves etc. Because they are so fun on surface but then as the relationship progresses it becomes a toxic relationship to die or kill for.

Yah...

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.

I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.

Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:56 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:35 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:03 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:59 pm Very pure emotionally. No agenda. No bad reads. Good mix of inquisitiveness and relaxation.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

On what do you base the read that she does not have bad reads?

The strongest evidence would be the fact that she doesn't have any reads unless you count her saying GG's post seemed fine, which was corroborated by other people who've played with GG.

If this is in reference to Dana, I actually found it odd that Dana found gnome’s post fine. Jay picking Gnome out as scummy feels more genuine because I mean...Gnome’s post was scummy. Does Dana know Gnome? Or...?

Why is my post scummy?

Gnome, I’m not reading you as scum. I’m not even reading you your post appears scummy for its tone, but I know that to be NAI.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:03 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:59 pm Very pure emotionally. No agenda. No bad reads. Good mix of inquisitiveness and relaxation.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

On what do you base the read that she does not have bad reads?

The strongest evidence would be the fact that she doesn't have any reads unless you count her saying GG's post seemed fine, which was corroborated by other people who've played with GG.

If this is in reference to Dana, I actually found it odd that Dana found gnome’s post fine. Jay picking Gnome out as scummy feels more genuine because I mean...Gnome’s post was scummy. Does Dana know Gnome? Or...?

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:28 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:19 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:06 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?

hello nice to meet you! im excited to hang with so many new people and also see some old friends that I haven't chilled with in a while, and im nervous bc im not very good at mafia and I am very susceptible to being pocketed so I feel like I gotta watch my back and have a nice healthy dose of paranoia at all times

Hi, I am a Gnome! I spend a lot of time in the garden so I don't go out on very many dates. I understand about feeling nervous and excited and about the need to have a healthy dose of paranoia because I too get pcoketed a lot by eager scum! They are so charming that I end up on and I am not even aware of all of the noisy howls It is very sad. I am looking for a sweet towny date and feel nervous and excited about finding romance, despite the presence of scummy scum scum!

hi! what kind of plants do you grow in your garden? it sounds like it must be such a nice place to live. I feel like its gonna be hard to find someone with the same non-killing views but you seem to be okay so far!

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:06 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?

hello nice to meet you! im excited to hang with so many new people and also see some old friends that I haven't chilled with in a while, and im nervous bc im not very good at mafia and I am very susceptible to being pocketed so I feel like I gotta watch my back and have a nice healthy dose of paranoia at all times

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:42 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 pm It occurs to me that my typical first date experience is often a lot like my typical Day 1 experience in Mafia -- I feel like I have to do most of the talking to keep things moving, and it usually ends with me losing.

You’ve probably just been dating a lot of wolves. Don’t let them fool you.

Is dating a lot of wolves like kissing a lot of frogs before you find your one true love?
If so, I've dated too many wolves.
They've sweet talked me.
Let me know that I was their one and only.
And then, they made me cry.
I still believe in love and I hope that, in this lovely new place, I can find my one and only.
Who is it?

is this a riddle

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:42 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 pm It occurs to me that my typical first date experience is often a lot like my typical Day 1 experience in Mafia -- I feel like I have to do most of the talking to keep things moving, and it usually ends with me losing.

You’ve probably just been dating a lot of wolves. Don’t let them fool you.

Is dating a lot of wolves like kissing a lot of frogs before you find your one true love?
If so, I've dated too many wolves.
They've sweet talked me.
Let me know that I was their one and only.
And then, they made me cry.
I still believe in love and I hope that, in this lovely new place, I can find my one and only.
Who is it?

Hi! Do you prefer GG or Gnome or Garden or something else for an abbreviated moniker!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 pm It occurs to me that my typical first date experience is often a lot like my typical Day 1 experience in Mafia -- I feel like I have to do most of the talking to keep things moving, and it usually ends with me losing.

You’ve probably just been dating a lot of wolves. Don’t let them fool you.