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by Garden Gnome
Fri May 28, 2021 10:04 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:02 am
Garden Gnome wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:47 am
orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:32 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:53 pm
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm my scum read on hawk is similar to my read on gnome btw i dont think they have been able to successfully generate genuine content and are leaning on things like flavor and in hawks case picking on obvious jokes trying to shade them
I appreciate your initial efforts, OC. Can you recall a couple examples off hand of these, maybe one for each of hawk and Gnome?
hawkataine wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:53 pm
Gavial wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!
This post Concerned me but also I get the impression that's just the gavial vibe lmao
i haaate post like this first of all. its things i really dont like and use to identify scum in on tightly rolled up short post and thats slight shade by expressing concern over a player but not running wiht it (maybe hoping someone else will), followed by immediete backtreacking in that theyre expreissing concern and immedeietly reasoning with it which ultimately leads me to what is the point of this post other than being filler (pointsless post because it was clearly a joke andt the point is immediegely withdrawnbut the post is still posted) shade withoit the need forownership.
Garden Gnome wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am
Guillotine wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am
Guillotine wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.
I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.
Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.
I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?
this post came in the middst of a lot of people trying to make real headway in the game and just stuck out like a sore thumb to me because it obviously leaned deeply into flavor and seeme d to want to toy with peoples emotions. The post itsself didn't serve any real progress in terms of progressing the game . i have adressed my read on gnome and her difficult getting into the game and am assured their play will pick up the more i read , gnome felt very concerned about my read of them which also stuck my as alittle suspicious and tmiish.

ill continue to try and get through content today anyway and see if it changes where im at
The way that you interpret my posts is very interesting, although you seem to be biased toward scum reading me. I think that you've already made up your mind, and you're just looking for some sort of reason to call me scum. That being said, I am reading you as town, despite your comment about "suspicious and tmi." Like how would you know that anything that I said was tmi, if you were town? But I think that you are attempting, in a short sighted way, to solve the game. Your read of me is way off, but that, too, is towny.

I also think that martin is scum. I read his iso (which might be where the claims of tmi are coming from), and the tone reading of martin is how I felt when I posted. My opinion has not changed. I was asked a "gun to head" question, which I answered.

So the same question for you: gun to head, who is more likely to be scum, Martin or Hawkataine?
Hawk would be more likely to me as I have seen more things to make me doubt they are town
All right, thank you.
Right now, I can see both of them as potential scum. I think that Martin's vote on Hawk looks more like distancing than like a real vote. Which is why I voted martin.
by Garden Gnome
Fri May 28, 2021 10:03 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Guillotine wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:01 am
Long Con wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:56 am
Guillotine wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:55 am Garden Gnome looked like softing lost wolf.
How?
Because she is trying to FIND her love here?

@Garden Gnome why do you think that we as town cannot identify players with TMI?
I think that Orange claimed TMI where it didn't exist. Orange comes across as biased and more interested in proving her point that I am scum than in actually reading me and finding out my alignment.
by Garden Gnome
Fri May 28, 2021 10:01 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Guillotine wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:55 am Garden Gnome looked like softing lost wolf.
I'm not a lost wolf, but I do need to find that one person who has the same powers that I have. That person is my lover.
by Garden Gnome
Fri May 28, 2021 9:51 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

Garden Gnome wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:47 am
orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:32 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:53 pm
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm my scum read on hawk is similar to my read on gnome btw i dont think they have been able to successfully generate genuine content and are leaning on things like flavor and in hawks case picking on obvious jokes trying to shade them
I appreciate your initial efforts, OC. Can you recall a couple examples off hand of these, maybe one for each of hawk and Gnome?
hawkataine wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:53 pm
Gavial wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!
This post Concerned me but also I get the impression that's just the gavial vibe lmao
i haaate post like this first of all. its things i really dont like and use to identify scum in on tightly rolled up short post and thats slight shade by expressing concern over a player but not running wiht it (maybe hoping someone else will), followed by immediete backtreacking in that theyre expreissing concern and immedeietly reasoning with it which ultimately leads me to what is the point of this post other than being filler (pointsless post because it was clearly a joke andt the point is immediegely withdrawnbut the post is still posted) shade withoit the need forownership.
Garden Gnome wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am
Guillotine wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am
Guillotine wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.
I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.
Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.
I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?
this post came in the middst of a lot of people trying to make real headway in the game and just stuck out like a sore thumb to me because it obviously leaned deeply into flavor and seeme d to want to toy with peoples emotions. The post itsself didn't serve any real progress in terms of progressing the game . i have adressed my read on gnome and her difficult getting into the game and am assured their play will pick up the more i read , gnome felt very concerned about my read of them which also stuck my as alittle suspicious and tmiish.

ill continue to try and get through content today anyway and see if it changes where im at
The way that you interpret my posts is very interesting, although you seem to be biased toward scum reading me. I think that you've already made up your mind, and you're just looking for some sort of reason to call me scum. That being said, I am reading you as town, despite your comment about "suspicious and tmi." Like how would you know that anything that I said was tmi, if you were town? But I think that you are attempting, in a short sighted way, to solve the game. Your read of me is way off, but that, too, is towny.

I also think that martin is scum. I read his iso (which might be where the claims of tmi are coming from), and the tone reading of martin is how I felt when I posted. My opinion has not changed. I was asked a "gun to head" question, which I answered.

So the same question for you: gun to head, who is more likely to be scum, Martin or Hawkataine?
Oh, wait. That wasn't the post that you're responding to. Still, please answer the question.
You are answering the question about me looking for my true love.
But, since this is a game about dates and since being paired with another player has a very direct effect on the outcome of the game, this comment is about more than just flavor. My power depends on me finding my lover. It is meaningless without my lover. That is all I will say about it, other than I am very much town.
by Garden Gnome
Fri May 28, 2021 9:47 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

orangecrush wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:32 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:53 pm
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm my scum read on hawk is similar to my read on gnome btw i dont think they have been able to successfully generate genuine content and are leaning on things like flavor and in hawks case picking on obvious jokes trying to shade them
I appreciate your initial efforts, OC. Can you recall a couple examples off hand of these, maybe one for each of hawk and Gnome?
hawkataine wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 7:53 pm
Gavial wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!
This post Concerned me but also I get the impression that's just the gavial vibe lmao
i haaate post like this first of all. its things i really dont like and use to identify scum in on tightly rolled up short post and thats slight shade by expressing concern over a player but not running wiht it (maybe hoping someone else will), followed by immediete backtreacking in that theyre expreissing concern and immedeietly reasoning with it which ultimately leads me to what is the point of this post other than being filler (pointsless post because it was clearly a joke andt the point is immediegely withdrawnbut the post is still posted) shade withoit the need forownership.
Garden Gnome wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 11:27 am
Guillotine wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:14 am
Guillotine wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 3:12 am Hell no. I'm gone for 6 hours and there are ten pages to read?

tlDr, gimme the summary.
I can't recall what precisely has happened within that 10 page window, but if you'd like an easier way to integrate into the current thread: I'd appreciate if you could look specifically at PerC people and share your views.
Uhhhmmm I have something to confess... I'm not from Perc...or rather, I am from Perc as much as I am from here.

I've played two games there and hosted one at PerC, same for here minus hosting a game....

I just wanted a date cause I'm lonely as hell, so lonely that I play mafia at a forum with other lonely nerdy people.
I know how you feel. About wanting a date, not about being from the Syndicate. This is my first time on this site. I'm from PerC. It's there that I played Mafia for the first time. They've become accustomed to my somewhat erratic (and enthusiastic) play style. They still sometimes call me scum for my play style or claim that they can't read me, which is an odd thing because reads are my area of weakness, not necessarily theirs. I came here to look for a date who would be understanding of my eccentricities and my odd play style. And my slowness to form reads. I don't have any reads yet, probably because people are coming across as too anxious to find a date and, therefore, very guarded and not open. I am seeing shells and not players so the reads aren't there.

I am looking for an date who can be better at reads and who might need a partner who is good at being spontaneous and a little eccentric. Together, this date and I will complete each other. What are you looking for?
this post came in the middst of a lot of people trying to make real headway in the game and just stuck out like a sore thumb to me because it obviously leaned deeply into flavor and seeme d to want to toy with peoples emotions. The post itsself didn't serve any real progress in terms of progressing the game . i have adressed my read on gnome and her difficult getting into the game and am assured their play will pick up the more i read , gnome felt very concerned about my read of them which also stuck my as alittle suspicious and tmiish.

ill continue to try and get through content today anyway and see if it changes where im at
The way that you interpret my posts is very interesting, although you seem to be biased toward scum reading me. I think that you've already made up your mind, and you're just looking for some sort of reason to call me scum. That being said, I am reading you as town, despite your comment about "suspicious and tmi." Like how would you know that anything that I said was tmi, if you were town? But I think that you are attempting, in a short sighted way, to solve the game. Your read of me is way off, but that, too, is towny.

I also think that martin is scum. I read his iso (which might be where the claims of tmi are coming from), and the tone reading of martin is how I felt when I posted. My opinion has not changed. I was asked a "gun to head" question, which I answered.

So the same question for you: gun to head, who is more likely to be scum, Martin or Hawkataine?
by Garden Gnome
Fri May 28, 2021 12:51 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Guillotine wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 9:48 pm @Garden Gnome

Gth who could be scum between Hawk and Martin?
I have to say that I needed to ISO Martin because he hasn't made too much of an impression on me. Hawk definitely has more of a presence than Martin in this game. I'm not sure if having a presence means a town presence. I've seen players have an amazing presence. They definitely come off as town, but then turn out to be scum.

So I did ISO Martin and I thought that he came across as appearing to solve. He did engage with other players, but there's something that just pings me about him. I'm not sure what it is, and this is very much a tone read, but I would say that he is more likely to be scum than Hawk.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 11:02 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:17 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 9:58 pm @Garden Gnome are you looking for something casual? Please don't interpret this as creeper business. I promise it's not. :smile:
Yes, for sure. It could be a very beautiful thing. :guitar:
I've been tempted to try something a little more casual, but there's a lot of risk in it just because of who I am. The literal mafia always seems to be after me, and I don't want anyone else to be in danger just for being close to me... even casually.
i understand how the literal mafia can wreck romance for all of us.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 10:14 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 9:58 pm @Garden Gnome are you looking for something casual? Please don't interpret this as creeper business. I promise it's not. :smile:
Yes, for sure. It could be a very beautiful thing. :guitar:
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 9:42 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 9:27 pm I wish the MafC folk were more active. I know it is hard to play on a new forum for the first time, but it feels like a lot of them aren't ever around. It is weird that I am the highest posting MafC'er, that is not typical.
I'm here and posting. But I'm not typically a high poster. And, yes, playing on a new forum is difficult to some extent. Right now, many of them would be inactive because they're in Europe, where it's currently the middle of the night. Time zones are always a thing.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 9:10 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Long Con wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:53 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:47 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:29 pmDoes your possible explanation come with a lead on who is scum?

It might be prudent to share some of the details of what you know since there is a reasonable chance you won't survive past today.
Well, I'm trying to stay positive, but I guess you're right. I gave someone a bulletproof vest on Night 1.
So yours comes with a lead on who is town.
Correct. OR that person still has the vest, and hawk tried to kill JJJ.
Well then, our path forward is clear. We shoot the person you gave the vest to and see if they die. This is the strategy with the most +EV, right?
It's... the only way... *slowly raises gun with blank expressionless face*
???????
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 9:08 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:34 pm So like...

We have two claimed watchers (allcrab/LoMo)

We have one claimed gift giver and two claimed gift recievers (Kito->Guillo, ???->Sloon)

We have a dead roleblocker who couldn't have roleblocked last night and someone claiming they were roleblocked (Gav-> Hawk, ??->Sloonei).

We are in a game where the theme is a 2-person date.

We are almost assurely almost all twinzies.

There are almost assuredly two healers, and I strongly guess one is mafia. Hawk, I totally believe your claim... well for the most part.
Now I just need to figure out which of you is my true love.
I have been waiting for my one true love, but right now, I don't have a clue. All I know is that my true love is out there and seems to be shy.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 8:11 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:41 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:39 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:36 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:30 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:20 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pm

Oh no... Do you think I was lied to?
By whom, about what?
By gnome, about welcoming me into her supposedly town pocket
I left snacks for you in the town pocket. I hope that you enjoyed them!
The town pocket...? But not yours? :faint:
My town pocket. (the other pocket is just for food storage.) Thank you for pointing it out. :eye:
Do you believe Hawk’s claim? (Did I miss where you talked about this?)
Honestly, I'm not sure. There were claims that Hawk was carrying the scum kill but she was blocked. So I'm not sure what to believe right now.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 7:39 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:36 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:30 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:20 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:17 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:16 pm

No, I got into gnome's pocket
Gnomes don't have pockets.
Oh no... Do you think I was lied to?
By whom, about what?
By gnome, about welcoming me into her supposedly town pocket
I left snacks for you in the town pocket. I hope that you enjoyed them!
The town pocket...? But not yours? :faint:
My town pocket. (the other pocket is just for food storage.) Thank you for pointing it out. :eye:
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:20 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:17 pm
Dana wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:16 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:04 pm @Dana, did you try to pocket Gnome?
No, I got into gnome's pocket
Gnomes don't have pockets.
Oh no... Do you think I was lied to?
By whom, about what?
By gnome, about welcoming me into her supposedly town pocket
I left snacks for you in the town pocket. I hope that you enjoyed them!
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:20 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:23 pm "I run things this way so everyone else must do it the same way"

Ok boomer
scummy. :haha:
Hes still town just being dense
yeah, I think so, too, lol.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:23 pm "I run things this way so everyone else must do it the same way"

Ok boomer
scummy. :haha:
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 6:47 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:38 pm i am on page 25 @Garden Gnome so you can definitely consider my reads list tentative :)
All right, got it. In that context, the scum read on me makes sense. I didn't understand the game, and I played accordingly. Also, I never responded to anyone because I couldn't read the print. Both situations did manage to resolve themselves, and I think that my play improved on D2. As you continue reading, I hope that you can view my play with an open mind.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:39 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:18 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:16 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:13 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:09 pm

Well, if someone claims they redirected me, we can yeet whomever they redirected me to. Otherwise, you're it.
What if the person who redirected you is scum? Why in that case would they claim? They’re watching me die because of whatever they did to make you think I killed Kito.
Scum wouldn't redirect me onto scum since they don't know the extent of my powers.
I’m not scum. And I didn’t do shit last night so idk man, but from where I’m standing either you were given wrong information or you’re straight up lying.
Okay, I believe you and I rescind my redcheck.

I didn't target Actv. I know this comes as a huge surprise to everyone.
Why did you make a fake red check? And, if you didn't target Actv, who did you target?
I wanted to see how Actv and others reacted. Sometimes people who get redchecked make their alignment really clear, either by responding in a super towny way, or responding in a super scummy way. I think Actv's response was okay. I wouldn't clear her over it, but she didn't look bad from it at all.

I'd rather not say who I targeted yet.
All right, that's helpful. I have taken my (impulsive vote) off of Actv.
Can you tell me why you voted Hawk?
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:39 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:38 pm how was ur date Jay?
Cliffs:

Gavial and I had to decide who dies, either or both of us. He took the sacrifice like a hero. Mafia didn't try to kill me N1. hawkataine block serious.
I mean like what was he like did he buy you flowers did u see a move what movie was it did u kith
He was a darling. We just stayed up late and gossiped about all of you.
That's so romantic!
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:36 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:18 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:16 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:13 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:09 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:01 pm

It's funny, I actually made you "trend up" on my legacy reads because I wanted to see if the wolves would take the bait and let you carry the kill, assuming they didn't kill me. Did this factor into your decisions in wolf chat? I'm genuinely curious.
Unless mafia went into full blown deep wolf mode by straight up bussing Owner out of no where (which I don’t think happened), you were given wrong information. I don’t see why else you’d make this up. Please consider that before you start pushing for my yeet. I literally just posted a bunch of Golden Girls gifs in my discord.
Well, if someone claims they redirected me, we can yeet whomever they redirected me to. Otherwise, you're it.
What if the person who redirected you is scum? Why in that case would they claim? They’re watching me die because of whatever they did to make you think I killed Kito.
Scum wouldn't redirect me onto scum since they don't know the extent of my powers.
I’m not scum. And I didn’t do shit last night so idk man, but from where I’m standing either you were given wrong information or you’re straight up lying.
Okay, I believe you and I rescind my redcheck.

I didn't target Actv. I know this comes as a huge surprise to everyone.
Why did you make a fake red check? And, if you didn't target Actv, who did you target?
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:22 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:20 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm [VOTE: Actv] aubergine
Wtf...I literally didn’t do anything last night. Either you’re lying or you were given wrong information.
Who do you think killed kito?
it was made i seened him
Should we yeet made?
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:18 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:07 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm [VOTE: Actv] aubergine
Why are you voting Act?
She killed Kito. You should vote her too.
All right. I'll vote that scum. :mafia:
you are also fake news
You could be right about that. But I'm going to move my vote.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:20 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Actvscenei wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm [VOTE: Actv] aubergine
Wtf...I literally didn’t do anything last night. Either you’re lying or you were given wrong information.
Who do you think killed kito?
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:17 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:07 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm [VOTE: Actv] aubergine
Why are you voting Act?
She killed Kito. You should vote her too.
All right. I'll vote that scum. :mafia:
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

Seanzie wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm [VOTE: Actv] aubergine
Why are you voting Act?
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 5:04 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:36 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:32 pm
orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:19 pm i am scum reading gnome mac and hawk and this stage

im about 25 pages in i think

by the way i can give reasons for any of these people want but i didnt wana go to spam the whole thread with my notes that i hav spent the day making
Can you explain why you are scum reading me?
my read on you came late into where i am currently at and was because i had been able to look at a lot of content and form reads from it but you seemed to still not be doing this and leaning into flavor and it felt like you were using it a as a wawy to generate content to me
Are you still on day one stuff? If so, yes, I understand how you would get that read because I was completely confused. My day one content was not good. Also, I was literally having trouble reading the comments and, by day two, I just zoomed in a little more to get rid of that "I can't see the words" issue. If you read my comments on day two, I think that you'll see an improvement in content.
by Garden Gnome
Thu May 27, 2021 4:32 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]

orangecrush wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:19 pm i am scum reading gnome mac and hawk and this stage

im about 25 pages in i think

by the way i can give reasons for any of these people want but i didnt wana go to spam the whole thread with my notes that i hav spent the day making
Can you explain why you are scum reading me?
by Garden Gnome
Wed May 26, 2021 12:38 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 12:13 am What? Do people not hunt for 3p at the start of the game?
I think that mafia is a higher priority than 3P. Do you disagree?
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 11:34 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:25 pm I think it was Martin and Gnome yeah
????????????????????????????
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 11:10 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:52 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:50 pm I'm actually more surprised by gnome than sonny there.
I think it's a product of the game state. Enough people seem town to me that there aren't many worlds where the unknown wild card is also town. I have very little confidence in any read on Gnome.
Which is fair, she's that kind of player. After being wrong on gnome several times, I've started reading her more as someone who is more interested in having fun and improving their own play, rather than trying to win as a priority. By that metric she's towny to me right now.

That, and the other three players in your POE have hardly made an effort (if any) to discuss owner, gnome at least entertained the idea and gave her opinion.
Yes, this is a good description of my play. Mafia is a game and the idea is to have fun and to learn the game and to play better with each game. It's been a long learning curve for me. I've had to figure out a play style that would be effective and would be a way for me to get around the fact that I just don't have an analytical mind.

That being said, I have been reading and catching up. I am especially persuaded by Alison's case on Owner of a Lonely Heart. It is very compelling in its argument that Owner is scum. I have no more questions to ask anyone. They've all been answered. (see? I don't just ask an endless string of questions! Sometimes, I make commentary!)
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 6:46 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:11 pm
Guillotine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:43 pm Quick question. What is your favorite choice of sweets to give to a date between these options?

* Cheesecake
* Dick shape lollipops
* CHOCOLATES
* Cotton Candy
Someone tell me this isn't a soft of getting fruit vendored

Which makes me wonder why guillo is voting the fruit vendor :thonk:
Maybe he was offered fruit that he didn't like?
I would definitely go for chocolates, by the way.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 6:17 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:07 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 am @hawkataine hey hawk, I was trying to remember but do you just make charts as town? I'm trying to remember if you also do them as scum or not. But I also don't recall a lot of your scum games.
Sometimes I do them as scum for ez town cred but that likely wouldn't work here lol
Also I don't remember how to play scum tbh tbh
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:02 am
Seanzie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:29 am @Owner of a Lonely Heart you're here!

Did you target JJJ?
I sent a fruit. It doesn't do much. The person I sent it to hasn't brought it up yet.
This definitely implies owner is actually caught up in which case all of my suspicions on her are valid
Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:27 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:18 am
Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:16 am Well, unless I'm not following then maybe I'm drunk too
who's maf
I'm bothered by Belzy's lack of well, Belzy, and Owner just pinged me. Still don't know what Bunny is doing.

Hawks vote timing was poor too, but I'm not sold on Made.

Have only been skimming the thread at work so am behind, getting there.
hi this sounds like you know I'm town
Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:28 am
Guillotine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:30 am Actually, let's just go back to [VOTE: Belzy] aubergine
You and Hawk still have scum equity.
IDGAF what you say.
this is a hilarious concept, I had two whole fights with guillo and everything (ily rly guillo)

gavial around this point is enjoying a very binary view of mafia where everyone who does what he says is town and everyone who doesn't is probs scum. Like I really don't know why he wants me dead this bad, possibly he came up with a genius plan overnight, but surely he has a strong enough grasp on mechanics to know his 'red check' is really not a red check
Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:38 am If your town and you vote scum.
You’ll have a lesser chance of getting ML’ed.
Just saying.
This is to bad bunny. It's like he's trying to save her except that I'm not gonna flip scum so his world makes no sense. He's actually done a lot of post-me-flipping-scum worldbuilding which is the thing that has me thinking he is town, but also I think I remember seeing that kind of logic in the scum game he was just in on MafC.
Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:46 am How much do you wanna make a bet one the players visiting Jay was some kind of after death effector but they couldn’t get their kill through due to me preventing Hawk from attacking.
This is like acknowledging that he knows JJJ was the scum NK?? Which doesn't add up because... I didn't go anywhere. So like, what world is this post referring to unless it's a slip???
Sonny wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:57 am Why not. Let's see how this sits.

[VOTE: hawkataine] aubergine
After being told gavial wasn't joking about the red check.
This isn't for reactions because you already said you liked my reaction. So how on earth is gavial's 100th post about this the one that finally tipped tha balance for you?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:23 am Why did bad bunny come to the thread and say things (barely) without so much as acknowledging the severe suspicion heaped upon her?
I mean this isn't true. Admittedly her comments were not compelling but she did acknowledge she was likely to be yeeted at some point

Going back to gavial briefly, he's super keen to come up with elaborate reasons why extra people were visiting JJJ but super not keen to come up with elaborate reasons why I might not have had the NK. Idk what this meaaaaans
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:50 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:24 pm I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.
Interesting theory. What do you think of the fruit vender thing and of Owner's disappearance in the thread? Could you give some details that would back up the theory?
"Fruit vendor" is an atypical claim to make and the kind of thing that would almost certainly have to be at least somewhat tied to a real role, because it's too bizarre for someone, when pressed for a roleclaim, to blurt out "I gave someone fruit!" when there is an entire world of more common abilities available to players in mafia games.
Owner's "disappearance" can be attributed to anything. I will not provide an answer for her on that question.
Owner is probably the only person I would ever actively expect to claim fruit vendor if pressured fwiw
It is definitely a goofy kind of claim to make, and it seems like you are saying that, for Owner, the claim is NAI? It would definitely help if Owner were around to explain herself. All we can do is guess. The fact that she's not around while a huge wagon is building on her is not at all helpful. If she is town, she really needs to be here to talk to us about her odd claim.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 5:55 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Seanzie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:24 pm I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.
No, owner is outed scum.
Could you explain why Owner is outed scum? What caused the outing to occur?
I'm not willing to talk about it, but even without me staking my life on it, the disappearing fruit vendor thing is pretty darn telling.
Okay, that could be so.
I was discussing the fruit vendor thing with Act, who offered this perspective on it. Can you tell me what you think of this? It seems that there are a lot of complicating factors with this being a closed set up.

"From my understanding, Owner claimed she sent fruit to someone. People assumed she sent the fruit to Jay. Jay said no fruit here. And Seanzie has been hardcore pushing for votes on her ever since. I mean, I’m generalizing, others have called her suspicious for the fruit too, I think, but no one is pushing for her votes more than Seanzie. So that’s what stands out to me.

My unsolicited opinion on the fruit matter is that she can easily lie about sending fruit to someone. It’s a closed game lol. Someone suggested it’s an easy check, but she can say “I sent fruit. No one got it? Ah man. Something must have interfered” and how could we argue that? Scum can easily hide behind claims this game. And sending fruit is such an easy claim to hide behind because it’s super harmless (I think?) and either someone confirms getting fruit or no one does and like I said, easy hideout. But if Owner did have an action and someone happened to see her, she can always say “it was the fruit” rather than perhaps something more sinister that she may have actually done. So long story short, she could easily still be scum. Or she could be town. Maybe she actually did send fruit haha."
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 5:36 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Seanzie wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:24 pm I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.
No, owner is outed scum.
Could you explain why Owner is outed scum? What caused the outing to occur?
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:24 pm I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.
Interesting theory. What do you think of the fruit vender thing and of Owner's disappearance in the thread? Could you give some details that would back up the theory?
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 5:18 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 5:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:50 pm If Garden Gnome is supposed to be an enigma wrapped inside a pancake, is it typical of her to ask pointed game-relevant questions like these?
She asks these questions all the time but doesn't always do something with the answers. The hard part is that it's NAI whether she does or not, lol.
Yes, that is a valid criticism of my play style. I tend to ask questions and then my follow-through is weak. I'm trying to make the questioning sessions more like a conversation, instead of the usual ask questions and disappear (which usually involves some AFK time). I hope that this helps.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 5:09 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:56 pm @Garden Gnome, I don’t think much of the Hawk votes. What do you think of them?
I don't know why Hawk is the counter wagon to Owner because I'm really not seeing scum in Hawk right now.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 5:04 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:49 pm Looks like these three have not posted since the fruit claim:

Alison
Made
Martin

Also technically possible Belzy could have done so but didn't think to before blasting Tangy.

Would have a lol if it's poison fruit and Alison is the target.
Ooohhh!! Theories! Lol Is poisoned fruit a thing in mafia?
Oh, wow, that would be a dramatic plot twist!
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:40 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:33 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:13 pm I agree with that observation @Garden Gnome -- tangible drop in engagement from Owner that doesn't quite align to my other premier suspects apart maybe from bad bunny. Not good at face value.
Why is activity level a factor? Owner had been suspected prior to the fruit scandal and remained in the game. Maybe I have an inaccurate perception of time...is there a pattern of Owner dropping off when under suspicion?
All right. Could you talk to me about the fruit scandal? I have read most of the posts but I can't seem to find the source of the fruit scandal. Do you suspect that some sort of fake claim was involved and that Owner vanished because of the suspicion?
From my understanding, Owner claimed she sent fruit to someone. People assumed she sent the fruit to Jay. Jay said no fruit here. And Seanzie has been hardcore pushing for votes on her ever since. I mean, I’m generalizing, others have called her suspicious for the fruit too, I think, but no one is pushing for her votes more than Seanzie. So that’s what stands out to me.

My unsolicited opinion on the fruit matter is that she can easily lie about sending fruit to someone. It’s a closed game lol. Someone suggested it’s an easy check, but she can say “I sent fruit. No one got it? Ah man. Something must have interfered” and how could we argue that? Scum can easily hide behind claims this game. And sending fruit is such an easy claim to hide behind because it’s super harmless (I think?) and either someone confirms getting fruit or no one does and like I said, easy hideout. But if Owner did have an action and someone happened to see her, she can always say “it was the fruit” rather than perhaps something more sinister that she may have actually done. So long story short, she could easily still be scum. Or she could be town. Maybe she actually did send fruit haha.
All of these seem like plausible scenarios.
For follow-up: what do you think about Seanzie's hard push on Owner, seeing that he is pushing the hardest? What do you think that says about his alignment? Could he be strong town because he believes that he's caught a scum and wants to push hard for it? Or do you have a different view of Seanzie's intentions, something not so pro-town?

Also, what do you think of the wagon on Hawkataine?
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 4:33 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:13 pm I agree with that observation @Garden Gnome -- tangible drop in engagement from Owner that doesn't quite align to my other premier suspects apart maybe from bad bunny. Not good at face value.
Why is activity level a factor? Owner had been suspected prior to the fruit scandal and remained in the game. Maybe I have an inaccurate perception of time...is there a pattern of Owner dropping off when under suspicion?
All right. Could you talk to me about the fruit scandal? I have read most of the posts but I can't seem to find the source of the fruit scandal. Do you suspect that some sort of fake claim was involved and that Owner vanished because of the suspicion?
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:17 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:08 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:52 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:44 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
Sounds terrible.
Oh, and can you tell me how you're reading Owner right now?
And why do you think that you're a leading wagon?
Who are you reading as scum right now.
Please forgive me if these questions have already been asked and answered. I've been reading and catching up.
My thoughts on owner haven't evolved from like 20 pages ago primarily because I haven't read most of them yet
I think she looks bad from nutella interactions and specifically how nutella didn't seem interested in encouraging a wagon there when it was the most popular alternative to herself (nanook admittedly disagrees with my take on this which I am considering), also she's reminding me of when she subbed into tripped on adventure as scum
I've probably talked enough about myself at this point, promise the answers already are posted
I haven't really had time to consolidate my reads yet but at the very least the people I'm gonna reread for suspicion reasons today include owner, sonny, act... probably I should find some TS people as well hrm
Also, can you elaborate on why Sonny?
I'm not gonna lie, it's pretty much because he's voting me and I'm offended
But having had that thought I did realise I was letting him have too much of a free pass. That list isn't really scum reads so much as people who I trust less than I did yesterday.
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 4:11 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:52 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:44 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
Sounds terrible.
Oh, and can you tell me how you're reading Owner right now?
And why do you think that you're a leading wagon?
Who are you reading as scum right now.
Please forgive me if these questions have already been asked and answered. I've been reading and catching up.
My thoughts on owner haven't evolved from like 20 pages ago primarily because I haven't read most of them yet
I think she looks bad from nutella interactions and specifically how nutella didn't seem interested in encouraging a wagon there when it was the most popular alternative to herself (nanook admittedly disagrees with my take on this which I am considering), also she's reminding me of when she subbed into tripped on adventure as scum
I've probably talked enough about myself at this point, promise the answers already are posted
I haven't really had time to consolidate my reads yet but at the very least the people I'm gonna reread for suspicion reasons today include owner, sonny, act... probably I should find some TS people as well hrm
Is it basically because of owner's interactions with nutella that is causing you to see her as looking bad? I read much of today's posts and have found nothing from owner. She seems to have disappeared (unless I'm going blind and just didn't see them). I'm wondering what to think of her dropoff in posts from yesterday to today. In my opinion, that doesn't look very towny, and I'm wondering what you're thinking.
I mean partly that but partly the other thing I said that I've been saying since yesterday lol
which is that yes I feel like she's actively hiding in the thread backlog instead of being excited by new people. but also I don't want to be like no activity = scum, but also there's not much going for her tbh
will reread anyway
In your opinion, is hiding in the thread backlog, something that scum!owner is likely to do? Or is her bad look from yesterday and her nonpresence today making her seem like low hanging fruit? Also, what do you think of her wagon? Do you think that it's clean or that there is scum on it? Right now, I don't know how to read Owner so I am trying to explore all possibilities.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 4:11 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:52 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:44 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
Sounds terrible.
Oh, and can you tell me how you're reading Owner right now?
And why do you think that you're a leading wagon?
Who are you reading as scum right now.
Please forgive me if these questions have already been asked and answered. I've been reading and catching up.
My thoughts on owner haven't evolved from like 20 pages ago primarily because I haven't read most of them yet
I think she looks bad from nutella interactions and specifically how nutella didn't seem interested in encouraging a wagon there when it was the most popular alternative to herself (nanook admittedly disagrees with my take on this which I am considering), also she's reminding me of when she subbed into tripped on adventure as scum
I've probably talked enough about myself at this point, promise the answers already are posted
I haven't really had time to consolidate my reads yet but at the very least the people I'm gonna reread for suspicion reasons today include owner, sonny, act... probably I should find some TS people as well hrm
Is it basically because of owner's interactions with nutella that is causing you to see her as looking bad? I read much of today's posts and have found nothing from owner. She seems to have disappeared (unless I'm going blind and just didn't see them). I'm wondering what to think of her dropoff in posts from yesterday to today. In my opinion, that doesn't look very towny, and I'm wondering what you're thinking.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
Sounds terrible.
Oh, and can you tell me how you're reading Owner right now?
And why do you think that you're a leading wagon?
Who are you reading as scum right now.
Please forgive me if these questions have already been asked and answered. I've been reading and catching up.
by Garden Gnome
Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 am @MacDougall
Vote Hawk!
I'm still in catch up mode but could you explain to me why hawk is a better yeet than owner?
by Garden Gnome
Mon May 24, 2021 6:49 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Alison wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 pm Has Garden Gnome done anything clearworthy?
No. Not at all.
What do you think? How do you see me right now?
by Garden Gnome
Mon May 24, 2021 6:01 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

Tangrowth wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:02 pm Omg no death also a scum yeet!!!!! :O

Top notch trolling by nutella.

Also what is going on.
That is truly as good as it gets!
by Garden Gnome
Sun May 23, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

nutella wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 3:42 pm Town
Guillo
Sonny
Belzy
Dana
Tangy
Kito

Slight town/reservations
Jay
Alison
LC
Martin
Hawk
Gav

Mixed feelings or little impression
Allcrab
Gnome
Actv
Sean
Owner
Mac

Scum lean
Nanook
Made
Lost monkey
Sloonei
Bunny
this is really helpful, nutella. Thank you.
by Garden Gnome
Sun May 23, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
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Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

Tangrowth wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 3:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 3:39 pm Should nutella flip town, I would urge the remainder of town to maintain a sense of chill in your mindsets. The overall health of this game thread has been okay, but I do think it could teeter on collapse into stupidity pretty fast if we don't remain mindful of it. If she's town, we'll be okay. Pool heads and work together.
Well said, thank you for expressing this. The game can be won with this level of activity, even if culture clash is an obstacle.
We are just getting to know each other's play styles so a whole lotof misunderstanding is to be expected.
by Garden Gnome
Sun May 23, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

nutella wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 3:39 pm Shitty day 1 but I'm hoping to have some positive effect on the game lemme make a more coherent list before i die
that would help, no matter how you flip.
by Garden Gnome
Sun May 23, 2021 3:36 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]
Replies: 9439
Views: 432070

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]

nutella wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 3:34 pm Well that was lame

Like half the voters on me weren't even around to reassess at eod, pretty sad to lead to a mischop. But I believe in town to get some good takeaways from this mess
I'm pretty clueless right now. I'm hoping for clarity tomorrow.

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