The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:51 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:35 pm @Alison whaddya like about Sloonjay

For Sloonei I just like his vibes.

For you it's because you haven't been performative about your usual JJJ routine, which I think you'd be more likely to as mafia in this game.

What's an usual JJJ routine look like? And is it usually alignment indicative?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:06 am

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm How does one catch Alison as scum anyway? This is not a rhetorical question.

I don't know. I think you need to explain her playstyle or look for patterns in her playstyle over time.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:18 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

lalala dadv isnt real it cant hurt me

what's lalala dadv? Or Is this someone I should know? Also, hate is a strong word, Alison. Is that definitely how you feel about it or is lesser than hate?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:26 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am
"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

That was a joke. I wasn't saying you guys were being unwelcoming, far from it. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say. You seem very strong willed, and I feel like I didn't mean to hit something.

I was just trying to catch up, but it seems I started a fire in you.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:33 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:57 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:56 am

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pm
the wolves are so good at gaining everyones trust and then they just turn around and kill us all

hmm, do I trust the person with the cat avi? Sweet, innocent, cute looking kitty...hmm...they are probably...or maybe they will scratch me later...hmm...I think I should ignore my inclinations towards reading someone's avi. It's probably NAI.

Owner, what are your thoughts on Dana?

And what was your purpose for posting this/saying this out loud?

She hasn't said anything that pings me. She feels fine. She's in the slight town boat. I don't really know her range or how capable she is.

So far my the people who have pinged me are yourself, Tangy, nutella, and Sloonei

Alison's personality is strong, but I don't necessarily feel that that makes her mafia. If her reads were to clash really heavily with mine after days had gone by, I would maybe revisit her. But right now, her opinions are her own. I don't always have a purpose when responding to something. I just feel like that's something I would comment about and then I usually do so. As for saying things that help other players relate to or read me better, that probably still isn't my best suit, especially when playing with new people.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:43 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 5:49 am The way nutella pushes Owner is very bad. nutella has a stubbornness and conviction when she is town that is not present in her push of Owner. I believe she wants the thread to see her pushing Owner but without actually lending bite to the push. Furthermore when she came under heavy fire she immediately amplified the theatricality of her Owner push ("say something game related or die"). But when an alternative push that isn't Owner comes up (Lost Monkey) she jumps straight onto it, while also winking and nodding at the suggestion that LoMo has TMI'd Owner to be town.

I think they are very compatible as buddies. You can call this preflip association if you want, but both of them have been individually scummy and nutella's progression on Owner doesn't make sense.

I think some people push on me because a lot of our thoughts don't line up or they have a hard time seeing what I'm saying. I must have missed the part about that to lomo.

LoMo talking about my play I feel he would do as either alignment. Or I feel like a lot of us from PerC will talk about each other it isn't something that one would necessarily use for just one alignment. I don't know. I feel LoMo talking about it either NAI or more potentially a town lean. I'm still really behind. I have read the first 6 pages out of 38. And I have read some of the conversations around when I have been posting in the thread, everything else I have not really read or had time to read.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 am

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:29 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:49 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 6:21 am Also hi, JJJ,

What exactly do you expect from a scum!Tang having an agenda, and having a lower comfort level, so far at a Day 1?

I will preface this by saying pure meta reads don't tend to play a huge role in my views, outside perhaps with Sloonei. So I can assign some "expectations" to a mafia-aligned Tangrowth, but take the following with many grains of salt. I would hardly build a case on this basis:

~ In the past, mafia Tangrowth has had a greater tendency to play with a tone of severity -- not necessarily "hostile", but more aggressive and less accommodating.
~ In that way, there'd be inherently less appearance of comfort and more of a sense of immediate and undue urgency.

Again, I don't care much about these notions. But I wanted to answer your question.

Are you saying that Tangrowth looks happier and more confident as town? Because the "sense of immediate and undue urgency" seems to imply a level of anxiety about being scum. But whenyou say that you don't care much about meta, are you suggesting that Tangrowth could simply be trying a different play style? And, if so, how are you reading Tangrowth right now?

I think Gnome could be town. I have not really used this read before, but I think as she scum is more fluffy or lacks questions that go somewhere. Most games she will talk about irl regardless of alignment, but I think as town she has some posts that are less scummier than others if that makes sense...idk, I dislike the number of times gnome gets misyeeted as town for just being herself

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@hawkataine hey hawk, I was trying to remember but do you just make charts as town? I'm trying to remember if you also do them as scum or not. But I also don't recall a lot of your scum games.

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Belzy wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:17 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:07 am man you can't think you've solved these people in half a gameday you are not that naive

"solved" no, but I do think I can achieve an acceptable level of Day 1 comfort to orient the game toward dead mafia on the basis of reads like that. I am often wrong about at least someone though, so it's worth asking

You and Tang are dominating the thread, at least when it comes to post count.

It took me forever to catch up. And by doing so, I have noticed that:

Tang: post count leader, has got a high potential of busy bee-ing. I see a lack of actual reads and game solving. Rather agrees with someone when someone is being called town by another than question others himself much or frequently.

JJJ: you are the second post count leader. You got at least some involvement, which is a better look. You give a lot of easy townreads however, including on Tang, and I would appreciate you delibating that read because I don't see it.

Alison: is not even in the top 5 post count (but 6th), but feels most 'presense'. Gives a lot of reads, and sometimes also create overview by saying what the thread its general reads are. Very helpful, and I like Alison's early point on Tang.

I agree with you on on Alison's presence. It looks like we differ a little bit on Tangy though. I scum read her more on a feeling, while you called her out more on lack of reads and game solving.

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I just found out that Allcrab is Fable...I didn't know that until this moment.

@Allcrab

Spoiler: show

Also, why are you in some peoples' POE? I'm asking for a friend.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 11:57 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:06 am Like JJJ and Gavial have already shown on D1 that their thought processes don't necessarily mesh. If your goal was to maximize progress made with someone who can keep up with him, wouldn't Sloonei be the obvious choice? Or Mac, or myself?

Also, what does "I guess I was thinking if this is more like a chat of sorts" mean?? All Owner knew at the time they made the call to send the fruits was that the passion fruit was "lucky". They would have no information that it would give those two a chat, that's something that we only inferred once we realized the passion fruit sent them on a date together.

The more I look at that claim post the more I feel like it's actually a scumslip.

Because of our clashing, I wasn't going to give it to you. Mac and Sloonei, I debated about, but I went with Gavial as I wanted someone who was likely to be alive the next day.

Ah, I guess I do have to say it then. My role is called Cupid. So seeing Cupid + passion fruit = I thought sex, but then I thought in terms of mafia roles, I thought like a mason or neighborizer chat that's protected or something, 'cause lucky. I assume pomegranate is like lovers chat, so I'm not entirely sure if I really want to use that one. Banana sounds like a lesser of passion fruit. Or maybe it is unprotected, but I don't know. If there is a soup kill in the game, I would be fine with going out that way. I mean I don't want to go, but at the same time, I don't have all the time needed to really be full on active this game. I pose as a distraction, but if we could prevent a mislynch that would be kind of cool.

But I don't necessarily expect everyone see it that way.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:31 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:30 pm Sloonei/JJJ/Dana are town.

Tangrowth is a maybe but I'm leaning town there.

nutella remains to be seen but will self-resolve.

Tangy's just town, sloonei is more of a question mark for me but thats also just a meme at this point isnt it

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:02 pm I choose to believe Guillo really did catch Nutella and Alison.

gottem

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:23 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:17 pm nutella quote which posts Act has been townie in.

it's not specific posts it's that the more she's posted the more I think it's just her style, and the fact that she's generally interacted/prodded a lot

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:35 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

Same

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:05 am Strong town
Jay
Sonny
Guillo
Tangy

Town leans
Gnome
Alison
Martin I guess sheeping alison
Dana
Mac
Sloonei
Hawk? Liked their style
Act maybe at this point

Gav Nook LC are more tbd
Dont remember anyone else

Going to sleep for like 12 hours gl

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:03 pm I think Act's posting has improved in recent times. I'm willing to give her some space and see how she uses it.

I liked her dismissive response to you asking for a read list tbh

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:14 pm Alison what do you think about lost monkey?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:14 pm The sloonei thing was clearly meme/bait lol

I don't think it was a pure reaction test because he later went on to describe serious seeming scumreads on all of those players.

I mean putting in that format was a meme but those can still be his actual suspects/at least names he wants talked about

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:31 pm My gut said alison claiming vig to get a reaction was towny but my brain says not to weigh stuff like that from alison too much because she can basically do anything as scum too that's kinda her whole deal

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:34 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:32 pm Right now if I did GTH:

Alison - scum

[READS SNIPPED]

I think other than alison these pretty much all line up with where I'd land as well though some of them are very barely

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:35 pm And if I take Alison to be town it's best to sheep her on Martin 100%, they are just the same alignment always

So if theyre town I'm wrong on some ppl

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

one of these is not like the others

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

mmmm spicy

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:21 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?

I have gripes with the fact that she hasn't really dug deep into the thread or developed strong convictions/pushes on her own. A lot of her posting feels shallow and touch-and-go on pretty surface level stuff. A lot of it is fluff. It reminds me of her posting in Modern Family hydra.

I have mostly townreads rn, LM is the closest I have to a strong scumread and still just want to see them get more involved

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:33 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:25 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

mmmm spicy

What about 5his is spicy

That owner seemed to backtrack on why she was uneasy with the wagon. I think Alison might be onto something, it seemed like a fake elaboration

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:43 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:37 am I feel like town nutella would be fiercer and less deflective here.

I'm torn about whether to vote Owner or nutella.

The people voting for me are mac, nanook, and guillo

I'm not concerned lol

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:48 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:40 am Like mafia mac or nook could be pushing me because I'm not literally the top poster and they think they can look good for not just admitting I'm obv town already

What of Alison?

Do you suspect this to be the case for either Mac or Nanook?

If Alison continues to stretch her poe to include me she could have agenda but I mostly feel good about her from other stuff and think she's still just sorting me out.

Idk about mac and nook, yolo probably one or both of them is wolfing

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:11 pm I think regardless of alignment, nutella was bothered by my comment. I stand by it, but I acknowledge that it's an annoying way to present a suspicion. But I think this reactionary vote is kneejerk, impulsive, and probably an attempt to stir up some of the absent feistiness. I don't think nutella actually suspects me for the comment or anything else I've done. I think the suggestion that my beliefs in this game are dubious has no contextual backing. It is verbal filler. I have not been Thread Leader Sloon in this game, but I have not withheld reads either.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:33 pm No he backed off of accusing me and went on some tangent about his posting. It was deflection and looked like tmi on me.

Does Not Compute

It says regardless of alignment right there, and the original comment was not a scumread

The original comment was an implied suspicion. I thought that much was clear.

But I think, regardless of your alignment, the way in which I expressed that read annoyed you. I think this is true because I get annoyed by that type of read all the time.
But I stand by it as a statement of suspicion. I think your return upon seeing you were the leading bandwagon had the air of an exasperated wolf who'd been caught and saw no way out. Radiohead came to mind. I would expect town nutella to bring a more discerning eye to that situation, rather than a blanket shrug of "wolves are definitely on me."

I am not currently voting for you. You believe that at least one mafia member is. Who dey?

I just woke up idk when half the votes happened

Made I definitely don't remember and could be a wolf who hopped on

Nanook I have issues with

Mac i thought he said he started townread me but maybe that was a bluff

Alison idk anymore

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:21 pm @nutella there's a very good chance your dead. Legacy?

made sloonei lm are scum reads

strongest town reads?

Guillo, sonny, belzy, Dana, maybe alison and tangy but with reservations

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:48 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:46 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 10:20 pm Martin is lock town never rescind.

Why?

Alison reps a godread on Martin so just sheep it.

Err, I mean good to know, would still like to see if for myself if it's something she can articulate.

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:33 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

Awkward, I literally just shaded you in the lightest of greens on my list.

Sonny wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:17 pm [NUTELLA INTERACTIONS FAKE READS SNIP]

Alison: Didn't like Alison having her in her PoE, vibed as real annoyance - probably town

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:55 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm Okay, end of Page 9. Guillo pointed out possible wolves in Nutella/Alison. Guillo also went from simply bear posting to regular posting in a way I kind of like (he wanted to do a gimmick, but then it feels like he just got excited as town and dropped the gimmick). Clearly Nutella was a hit, and I agree about Alison thus far. Mac also kind of pushed in that direction, and Nutella seems to be trying to butter Mac up afterwards (defended Mac at some point, and talked about how good Mac was in spiderverse, blah blah blah), so I am giving Mac a few town points here. Guillo probably also good, but seems to be getting less reactions from Nutella and others. I'd like to see Alison's flip to help sort these two.

What would Alison's flip mean for Guillo and Mac?

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:06 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:03 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:59 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:55 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm Okay, end of Page 9. Guillo pointed out possible wolves in Nutella/Alison. Guillo also went from simply bear posting to regular posting in a way I kind of like (he wanted to do a gimmick, but then it feels like he just got excited as town and dropped the gimmick). Clearly Nutella was a hit, and I agree about Alison thus far. Mac also kind of pushed in that direction, and Nutella seems to be trying to butter Mac up afterwards (defended Mac at some point, and talked about how good Mac was in spiderverse, blah blah blah), so I am giving Mac a few town points here. Guillo probably also good, but seems to be getting less reactions from Nutella and others. I'd like to see Alison's flip to help sort these two.

What would Alison's flip mean for Guillo and Mac?

At this point? Jack (I didn't intend this, but realized afterwards that I think the bear is called jack? very funny;)) shit in my mind. I have a singular focus. I feel like I am the owner of a whole new idea.

I suspect this may be the point where I stop making sense of your posts. It's hella fun tho.

Was it a serious question, Sonny? Because to me it read like a question to divert my attention. If it it was a serious question, I will give it a bit more seriousness.

It was, as Alison's flip is imminent unless it can be stopped.

I missed the "end of page 9" bit though, so if it's outdated than fine.

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 am

Kito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:52 pm If the poll displays votes in order then guillo more or less hammered nutella, or could've swapped last moment, or did a completely unnecessary bus. So he can be town and my belzy/guillo angle was stupid after all lol.

He was both first and last or close to.

Guillo was first on Nutella initially but switched to Belzy for a while
Nook didn't post his vote in thread but his vote was down before me so second or third
Mac was second or third
JJJ voted Nutella but then jumped about a bit: LoMo>Owner>Made
Sonny
Alison
LoMo
Guillo again
Don't know where Made or Gavial voted in the order as they didn't post in thread as far as I could see.

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:58 am I'd answer but I have no idea, apparently @Alison is the Martin-whisperer and the one to ask.

orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:17 pm hello everyone i actualy only fecognise some of you but i am excited to play here

i have not been able to catch upw tith everything but i have started to

so far i have these people town: Act (though am becoming cautious with him the more i read), Jay, Tangrow, Guil, Dana, Alison (lesser town read)

orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:07 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:58 pm

orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:51 pm I'm kind of flipping back and forth between current day and reading back

My thoughts on the healer thing is that I don't see any reason we can't have multiple healers when we now know that there have been multiple poisons, that obviously doesn't mean anything for the alignment of each one so that's an important thing to remember

The one thing that sticks out is 1-shot and 2-shot claims. I have no real reason for thinking this but I think they would both be 1 or both be 2 OR are different Alignments if both real. It just seems kinda random to give town a 1 shot and a 2 shot of the same role instead of just two 1 shots or a 3 shot. Maybe it's my ocd lol

Anyway I'm more concern with Gnome and Mac at the current times

Did you see my post to Hawk? I asked her some questions and brought up some things that don’t make sense to me. Can you make sense of my concerns?

I think they think they wasted a shot because Alison was already healed by Martin so they both healed the same person which would mean one shot was wasted.

But then instead of saying that it kind of looks like they think they wasted a shot because they were roleblocked but I don't think that would affect a day action lol

So it's all a bit confusiong and doesn't really make sense as an entire post

I do agree a shot was wasted though if both targeted Alison

orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:20 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am @orangecrush do you townread or do you scumread Alison?

if you look at the read klist i posted when i joined you will see that I have alison listed in my town column as a lesser town read, this is still the case. they have made some posts that i agreed with (had the same thoughts as) you can refer to my chart if you need to see which ones, the reason the town read is slightly lesser is that they made one TMI-ish psot which is also referenced in my chart if you go take a look, this one stood out to me. I have definitely been following the more recent discussions about other TMI possibilities in Alisons game so far. however my gut is that they are town just because of our thoughts being very similar and knowing im town i think the thought process for her being similar to my is encouraging

orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:57 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:43 am

orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:20 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am @orangecrush do you townread or do you scumread Alison?

if you look at the read klist i posted when i joined you will see that I have alison listed in my town column as a lesser town read, this is still the case. they have made some posts that i agreed with (had the same thoughts as) you can refer to my chart if you need to see which ones, the reason the town read is slightly lesser is that they made one TMI-ish psot which is also referenced in my chart if you go take a look, this one stood out to me. I have definitely been following the more recent discussions about other TMI possibilities in Alisons game so far. however my gut is that they are town just because of our thoughts being very similar and knowing im town i think the thought process for her being similar to my is encouraging

Ok.Do you think it is likely for a scum!Healer to try to heal Town!Alison?

it's hard for me to answer because i don't know good of a player alison is. if they are a very strong player and i was scum and they were not my teammate then i would probably not want to heal them. however being able to claim that heal obviously has a very genrerous potential up side, especially so if alison is a good town player. to answer your question i would say it is unlikely but there are reasons it is not a bad idea and therefore it is possible

orangecrush wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:10 pm so far about 1/3 of the way in i think jagged and alison have both been generous and show good conviciton in the town reads they have made. i thik they are being more generous with town reads than scum would be because scum is better off keeping the poe wider for themselves. I think this is a good sign that both are town

orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:34 pm @orangecrush is the red check on me real?

It would be dumb to fake a check right now I'd say so probably real unless something happened but I wouldn't rule that out, like I said I thought you were town on your early play before the red check . Alison said she had a redirect so we should wait to see if they used jt

orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:23 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:15 pm

orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:32 pm Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

lets kill this

Sonny's posting plummeted after a bad start to the game by scum and now his replacement is trying to get mac run up for shitposting and faking checks

I can't speak for sunny but I do stand by my reads and am confident in them despite the hawk flip and in my head it makes a lot of sense that such play would be by a scum player, especially after recent games I played. I totally understand voting me though and to be honest I've had a hard time catching up with the game