The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
am i in like a time machine here

My bad...I got lost in the number of windows I had open.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

That's not what Hermaus Mora did for Kza.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh

I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh

I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:16 pm I can't speak to proper iso solving etc but I got falcon by how he treated me, and I'm thinking of Marmot similarly. Marmot's played with me a few times; I'd expect some half-assed though put into a read on me at least.

I don't think I actually know why he thinks I'm the scummiest (as per his most recent readslist). Like I know it's thread consensus I'm scummy, but that's sort of the point - Marmot's read on me feels like it came about because the wind blew his weathervane towards me.

(Or maybe I'm just falling victim to thread consensus myself.)

It could be a last ditch effort at distancing. Ask him in wolf chat and let us know.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm can anyone who's good at math help me figure out how many misses we can afford before we're in the trouble zone

One. I posted an analysis earlier.

And let me rephrase...if we miss today "the trouble zone" I think we are in is "must hit." If we miss today I legit think it is the last one we can have and not lose...barring help from the 3P or a missed guess from me on the 3P wincon situation (very possible).

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:54 pm why you're pinging me so many times

Story of the game.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:35 pm If marmot flips 3P, does that reset everyone’s expectations?

Well it would be a lot better than a clean miss but I would still be left with considering turboing Vulgard. Probably wouldn't though because the 3P scares the crap out of me and just from feeling better I'd probably give him a day pass.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:06 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:03 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:36 am Kyle was on the Falcon wagon d1, another good look for him.

Among the 9 Moghedien voters, two are confirmed mafia (Mac and LM). Others include Gavial, Marmot (self-pres), Scotty, Tim, Daisy.

Among the 7 Marmot voters, one is confirmed mafia (falcon) and the other is suspected mafia (MR). Others include Kyle and TSP (both very likely town).

If MR isn't mafia, then the Marmot wagon only had one wolf on it fmpov. On the contrary, the Moghedien wagon seems to have a bunch of them. We have two confirmed wolves on it and 5/9 of the voters still haven't flipped.

This points to Marmot being mafia with the wolves piling away from his wagon, unless MR is a wolf. And even then, you could argue that. The reason I asked about the vote order is because DaisyCloud and Mac's votes appear last on the Moghedien wagon. With Mac being a flipped wolf and Daisy being a suspected wolf, this looks like an evident save when viewed this way. This point is meaningless with the poll not showing votes in order, though.

LC voteparking on Gavial there actually makes me think he's 100% town if Marmot is mafia. But that's only if Marmot is mafia.

Day 4 wagon on Marmot looks remarkably pure. We have Tim (un CC'd vig), Made (flipped V), Scotty (likely V). The only two people I think could be wolves on the Falcon wagon (6 votes) are Marmot and DaisyCloud. Falcon and LM, both wolves, didn't even bother to vote Marmot to save their partner.

I think this might be telling. If wagons are W/W, it doesn't really matter to these two which wolf flips. Falcon not self-pressing is a bad look for Marmot and LM not voting to tie the wagons is yet another bad look on Marmot. There is nothing to lose for LM by voting Marmot and putting the wagons up to rand. Except in a world where it literally doesn't matter, since a wolf dies regardless and you might as well not vote.

Day 5 was really just a LM dunk in the making and I wouldn't clear anyone for voting there.
This is a very important post.
Got me to switch tbh

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Id Marmot flips town I am liable to turbo Vulgard, just so everyone understands the situation here.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:31 am @Long Con @Timsup2nothin
What we doin boys

I am sheeping my town reads...I just haven't decided which one.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:36 am Kyle was on the Falcon wagon d1, another good look for him.

Among the 9 Moghedien voters, two are confirmed mafia (Mac and LM). Others include Gavial, Marmot (self-pres), Scotty, Tim, Daisy.

Among the 7 Marmot voters, one is confirmed mafia (falcon) and the other is suspected mafia (MR). Others include Kyle and TSP (both very likely town).

If MR isn't mafia, then the Marmot wagon only had one wolf on it fmpov. On the contrary, the Moghedien wagon seems to have a bunch of them. We have two confirmed wolves on it and 5/9 of the voters still haven't flipped.

This points to Marmot being mafia with the wolves piling away from his wagon, unless MR is a wolf. And even then, you could argue that. The reason I asked about the vote order is because DaisyCloud and Mac's votes appear last on the Moghedien wagon. With Mac being a flipped wolf and Daisy being a suspected wolf, this looks like an evident save when viewed this way. This point is meaningless with the poll not showing votes in order, though.

LC voteparking on Gavial there actually makes me think he's 100% town if Marmot is mafia. But that's only if Marmot is mafia.

Day 4 wagon on Marmot looks remarkably pure. We have Tim (un CC'd vig), Made (flipped V), Scotty (likely V). The only two people I think could be wolves on the Falcon wagon (6 votes) are Marmot and DaisyCloud. Falcon and LM, both wolves, didn't even bother to vote Marmot to save their partner.

I think this might be telling. If wagons are W/W, it doesn't really matter to these two which wolf flips. Falcon not self-pressing is a bad look for Marmot and LM not voting to tie the wagons is yet another bad look on Marmot. There is nothing to lose for LM by voting Marmot and putting the wagons up to rand. Except in a world where it literally doesn't matter, since a wolf dies regardless and you might as well not vote.

Day 5 was really just a LM dunk in the making and I wouldn't clear anyone for voting there.

This is a very important post.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:18 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 1:32 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 1:21 am This is getting spooky. Is this actually happening? I feel like gavial is getting exactly what he wants and I have no earthly idea why he wants it and it scares me
Take him at his word. He may have a poor grasp of the math, but he is correct in the principles. If he represents town in any kind of LYLO or MYLO we probably lose. No way in hell are the wolves gonna kill him for us. So ultimately, yeah, we probably have to kill him.

I just wish he would find some way to flip that script, because even with the good run of red flips getting us back in this thing it is not like we have mischops available to just throw away.

Mischop Gavial and a night kill puts us at 5/2/1 day seven. Whether the mystery deaths are 3p or townvig I expect one N7, and that means with a miss and an NK if the vig/3P hits town and takes win and leaves we are at 2/2 and lose. So we have this chop, one more, and the vig/3P shot to hit a wolf. We are too late to be pissing away at Gavial.
Which word? He’s used them all at this point

And what kind of town strategy is this? Lynch him because it’s the right thing to do? It’s never the right thing to do and it’s idiotic.

As the prophet Troy once said:

That wasn't a strategy that was a complaint. I was agreeing with him that the way he is currently playing if we take him to end game town probably loses (our minds if nothing else). Then I pointed out that we also don't have available mischops to waste on killing him. Desired outcome: Gavial starts playing differently.

Actual outcome: Gavial starts threatening to draw a modkill.

I did my best. Now just moving on.

That treatment of Mac isn't a good index. I'd say Mac more than any other wolf would have been distancing and being distanced. Part of powerwolfing.

two AM is not the ideal pizza shopping time

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 1:34 am i legitimately think vul is far more likely to be town than gav though

Maybe so.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 1:21 am This is getting spooky. Is this actually happening? I feel like gavial is getting exactly what he wants and I have no earthly idea why he wants it and it scares me

Take him at his word. He may have a poor grasp of the math, but he is correct in the principles. If he represents town in any kind of LYLO or MYLO we probably lose. No way in hell are the wolves gonna kill him for us. So ultimately, yeah, we probably have to kill him.

I just wish he would find some way to flip that script, because even with the good run of red flips getting us back in this thing it is not like we have mischops available to just throw away.

Mischop Gavial and a night kill puts us at 5/2/1 day seven. Whether the mystery deaths are 3p or townvig I expect one N7, and that means with a miss and an NK if the vig/3P hits town and takes win and leaves we are at 2/2 and lose. So we have this chop, one more, and the vig/3P shot to hit a wolf. We are too late to be pissing away at Gavial.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:59 am @Timsup2gettinserious
Thought you wanted to lynch me scrub?

Watching your conversations progress is waaaaaay too funny to want to chop you, but I am not gonna take a turn for everyone else's amusement...try LC, maybe he'll vote for you.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 10:58 pm So a Long Con, a Scotty and a Tim walk into a bar.
They sit down at the bar and order drinks: Long Con a Long Island, Scotty a Guinness, and Tim a pint of milk. The bartender, ever a perceptive one, goes, “MARMOT IS SCUM SCOTTY IS SCUM YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME”

Then the three, terrified, decide to vacate this bar and head down to O’Hoolihans because it has an earlier happy hour.

The end

Other than the inaccuracy of my order this seems plausible. Glenfiddich, or an Arizona Iced Tea if I'm driving.

Okay, so I'm caught up.

LC, yes I can see that you are out of practice at being sheeped as a town read. You are supposed to move your vote around, giving little or no reasons and being mysterious, to see who will follow you where.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:55 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:47 pm his clowning around and his accusations of me which is like a duck quacking
Well, you clearly haven't seen the video of me quacking like a duck for a minute while hanging out with real ducks, or you wouldn't say something so hurtful.
please share the vid. that sounds adorable, cute and fun. I have serious doubts this happened though.... please share it! ♡

It was awesome. It was in the UPick game. If LC doesn't provide I'll go find it later.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:40 pm Close your eyes and imagine a final 3 of Gavial, Daisy and Kyle.

Are you unconscious yet?

No because the shocking terror set in at "Final 3 of Gavial..." when I realized I could be in that. I never recovered. I may never sleep again.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:22 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:03 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:00 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:49 pm
Could we have read it wrong? Could they both be bad?
Or both good?
If they’re both good, who the hell is bad
That would be a gavial/Daisy team from my perspective and I don’t see it
Marmot maybe?

Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Scotty?

Anything is possible. I currently peg him as our 3p, but who really knows.
If the 3P wants to help us out, he is a prime candidate for that. I just feel like we have a better shit with one of Vulgard/mr
Oh I just noticed your spoiler, Tim, and I’m gonna pull a MR and say I acknowledge you said something

I hate to give him credit, but that is probably a sensible way to handle me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:00 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:49 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:39 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:37 pm You can see who's mafia if you squint.
Not yet, but I'm developing a theory.
Could we have read it wrong? Could they both be bad?
Or both good?
If they’re both good, who the hell is bad
That would be a gavial/Daisy team from my perspective and I don’t see it

Marmot maybe?

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:49 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:39 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:37 pm You can see who's mafia if you squint.
Not yet, but I'm developing a theory.
Could we have read it wrong? Could they both be bad?

Or both good?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:37 pm You can see who's mafia if you squint.

Not yet, but I'm developing a theory.

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

My turn to sheep the town read.

Ping me if we move LC.

And no I don't believe that either.

Really.

Seriously.

I don't believe...nah.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:52 pm Worst case scenario (I don’t really believe this, but it is a possibility):
Scum LC has slow played this whole thing, is mafia, and is clearing his mate TSP/Tom

Worst case is that it is a solo win, TSP is the 3P, and because he is 'cleared' as not mafia we let him get his N7 kill and we lose.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:43 pm The POE should be: MR, Vulgard, gavial, me, Daisy.
Put marmot in there if you wish.

I can clear myself tomorrow, but I shan’t today

Clearing Kyle for having tracked Marmot?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:27 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:20 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:19 pm As an aside, "I'll get on this later, but right now gonna go buy weed" is not the greatest cause for optimism ever spoken.

However a clear on Scotty would cause a massive crash in the aluminum markets when demand for tinfoil collapses so I'm gonna do some quick investing.
Oh? I didn’t realize you were in the market
I keep my tinfoiling private. But yeah, I have a massive habit. Can barely support it.
I.e. Mac. I get it.

But I would prefer not to be your vig kill tonight maybe tomorrow night, but not tonight. I got stuff to do

Unless we can organize a massive shrine orgy somewhere I am not getting another vig shot. If I thought there was any realistic chance at another shot I'd have never outed the vig...I'd have just made up something else and fought off the chop the hard way. We can try though. If someone suggests a shrine that hands out investigatives then LC will want to go there and so will I.

Syn died, and the "no mafia visited the same shrine" is consistent with his power so that would fit the note.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:20 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:19 pm As an aside, "I'll get on this later, but right now gonna go buy weed" is not the greatest cause for optimism ever spoken.

However a clear on Scotty would cause a massive crash in the aluminum markets when demand for tinfoil collapses so I'm gonna do some quick investing.
Oh? I didn’t realize you were in the market

I keep my tinfoiling private. But yeah, I have a massive habit. Can barely support it.

As an aside, "I'll get on this later, but right now gonna go buy weed" is not the greatest cause for optimism ever spoken.

However a clear on Scotty would cause a massive crash in the aluminum markets when demand for tinfoil collapses so I'm gonna do some quick investing.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:16 pm @Master Radishes what did you do last night?
Made Tim strongman any actions he took.

I'm thinking Scotty didn't like your answer. Just a hunch.

Okay 3P I have changed my mind about just brutally murdering you out of hand.

If this is right you can hang around until N7 and kill someone...please target in the POE.

People who have knowledge of races, if it is people in the POE who are not Argonian or Imperial, on D7 go ahead and spit it out.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:54 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:02 pm I’ve said this before, but it would make sense to me for the 3P win con to have something like “guess 3 players’ race correctly, and in doing so, kill them and you win”

Otherwise marmot and myself knowing Tim is Hispanic means nothing in the broad context
Kill three players of different (same?) races...the mace being a kill every third day by visiting Molag Ball...the other days being access to a shrine that gives them knowledge of a target's race and...I dunno, something...so they blind kill Nanook night one, get some info, kill Nacho night four, get more info for their upcoming N7 kill.

Gotta get it right because if they get a wrong kill N10 requires going heroically deep. Got the razor threat keeping them from outing and getting help...that actually has a certain plausibility to it, and explains why the vig hasn't claimed.

Gonna look at the Nanook and Nacho flips...
You might be on to something.

Races are getting whittled down now, since there’s only so much of us left and flips are always revealed. Having a racial win con adds a large level of inevitability if the 3P can last long enough

And a 3P with kill power that is not alignment motivated is inherently pretty balanced.

Bwahahahaha

Nanook was an Argonian and Nacho was an Imperial. So if my crackpot theory turns out right the 3P is gonna need to kill someone other than me on N7.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:02 pm I’ve said this before, but it would make sense to me for the 3P win con to have something like “guess 3 players’ race correctly, and in doing so, kill them and you win”

Otherwise marmot and myself knowing Tim is Hispanic means nothing in the broad context

Kill three players of different (same?) races...the mace being a kill every third day by visiting Molag Ball...the other days being access to a shrine that gives them knowledge of a target's race and...I dunno, something...so they blind kill Nanook night one, get some info, kill Nacho night four, get more info for their upcoming N7 kill.

Gotta get it right because if they get a wrong kill N10 requires going heroically deep. Got the razor threat keeping them from outing and getting help...that actually has a certain plausibility to it, and explains why the vig hasn't claimed.

Gonna look at the Nanook and Nacho flips...

We need to just hang out at the shrines that give investigative powers, so if someone goes there and uses the investigative, but dies, you get their report. If we just follow the town lemmings to the chaos shrine even if we get you a report it won't be anything good anyway.

That makes sense actually.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:50 pm of the 3rd party is sk or executioner thrn we definitely need to eliminate them via nk or lynch.

if 3rd party is say survivor or lol,...

tim is merchant... merchant is a 3rd party role. (maybe im thinking vendor.. any who it is mostly a benign role iirc) the apple vendor just hands out apples.. lol in my home community we had apple vendor could give out poison apples. so vendor could be bad

The "roles" from the roles list was stated to be a completely separate rand. In my case for example I randed as Imperial Merchant with my little peddling trinkets at shrines gig instead of getting blessings and my ability to buy vig shots if I peddled enough (basically a slow charge vig). THEN I randed town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:45 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:06 pm oh i don't have an artifact I'm just bad at counting and thought i could draw a razor shot

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:06 pm i have now counted
I mean you announcing that you have an artifact would draw a shot, since there is one more non-mafia artifact out there. You not counting doesn’t matter
It does matter, because without retracting he wasn't gonna live long enough to draw a shot. Promise whatever you want, but if the 3P outs here I am killing them.
Maybe he retracted *because* you’re hunting 3rd party elephants like you’re Trump Jr out here

Soooo...is 3P, put out a feeler, didn't like the response?

Are you trying to get me to kill TSP here?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:06 pm oh i don't have an artifact I'm just bad at counting and thought i could draw a razor shot

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:06 pm i have now counted
I mean you announcing that you have an artifact would draw a shot, since there is one more non-mafia artifact out there. You not counting doesn’t matter

It does matter, because without retracting he wasn't gonna live long enough to draw a shot. Promise whatever you want, but if the 3P outs here I am killing them.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:35 pm what's stopping some of them being a mafia team and just verifying each other?

Because there is only two mafia left. So in the Gavial/Marmot/Kyle triangle at least one of them is not coordinating with the others.

Meanwhile, until I am better rested and less grumpy I'm

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

just because it feels good.

And maybe he's just a wolf under all the madness.

Or Sheogorath.

Or Sloonei.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:08 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:53 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:48 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:44 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.
My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move
That's also a fully possible 3P move. Might have been town siding. Might have had some way to know Falcon had the razor and wanted it discharged because the Mace makes him vulnerable.
True true.

So if tsp is 3p, what do we do with that?
If he wanted to say, come out with his win con, I’d be on board helping him out if we can do so
Since you have been on hiatus and I think @Vulgard has as well...in my last Sloonei game I died on like day ten screaming "WRF are you stupid townies doing, you don't even think I am a wolf and Alison has claimed to not be town???" Shortly after that Alison claimed victory as 3P...S O L O victory. And much whining was done by the townies that met her day one 3P claim with "oh, okay then, let us help you win."

TL;DR if you guys try to help the 3P win I will flip right the fuck out here. If TSP actually claimed 3P there then we are full stop on the wolf hunting for now and INCINERATING him. Period, full stop.

If you're talking about GoC, then Sloonei was my mafia teammate, and Epi/dunya hosted that one.

I still blame Sloonei. He's the champ and fully responsible for everything. But yeah, my bad.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:01 pm i'm not 3p lol

There seems to be some issue with you claiming to have an artifact and only the 3P and the wolves currently having artifacts.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:53 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:48 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:44 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.
My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move
That's also a fully possible 3P move. Might have been town siding. Might have had some way to know Falcon had the razor and wanted it discharged because the Mace makes him vulnerable.
True true.

So if tsp is 3p, what do we do with that?
If he wanted to say, come out with his win con, I’d be on board helping him out if we can do so

Since you have been on hiatus and I think @Vulgard has as well...in my last Sloonei game I died on like day ten screaming "WRF are you stupid townies doing, you don't even think I am a wolf and Alison has claimed to not be town???" Shortly after that Alison claimed victory as 3P...S O L O victory. And much whining was done by the townies that met her day one 3P claim with "oh, okay then, let us help you win."

TL;DR if you guys try to help the 3P win I will flip right the fuck out here. If TSP actually claimed 3P there then we are full stop on the wolf hunting for now and INCINERATING him. Period, full stop.

PS I just got up after a very short night's sleep so I may not make sense.

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