The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:04 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:03 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:55 am I like nutella's posts. She's kinda tapering off in activity: right now it feels like the half-lazy I don't wanna say things kind of taper. I felt it a bit when I wanted cake.
I want cake
my cake was disappointing, but i also got some mini cinnamon rolls and they were better

I made chocolate chip banana muffins a couple days ago and im having the last one now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:55 am I like nutella's posts. She's kinda tapering off in activity: right now it feels like the half-lazy I don't wanna say things kind of taper. I felt it a bit when I wanted cake.

I want cake

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:50 am
Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:47 am whatever this is all dumb lets chop made

[VOTE: made] aubergine
Do you actually scum read Jay?

And why Made?

Kinda feels like deflection here.
no I don't scum read Jay

do you intend to accuse everyone who introduces a new suspect as deflecting from somewhere arbitrary?

?? it's not arbitrary you've been talking about jay all day

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:38 am Nutes what are your reads

Uh yeah I got me some of those

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:30 am I think Sonny is town.

Same

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:01 am Finding someone genuine?

Unrelated, screw nested quotes. Really.

if you highlight the part you want to quote there's a pop up quote button that will just take the selection

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:59 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:06 pm
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:59 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:57 pm
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:03 pm Seriously smh, how did I get first so easily.
I like your first posts. Nice to meet you!
Likewise!

What do you like about them?
They feel genuine. I also feel the progression works. So, yeah. I like ‘em.
This is something I haven't seen from act in a while lol.

hi! could you elaborate on this a bit

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:49 am @nutella what do you think of Jay?

hes a fucking dweeb

Hey more nerds

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:17 pm nutella quote which posts Act has been townie in.

it's not specific posts it's that the more she's posted the more I think it's just her style, and the fact that she's generally interacted/prodded a lot

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:13 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:02 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!
This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?
What don't you like about it? Seems non AI to me.
Unlike your posts that felt genuine, this feels like a forced nicety. Among a couple other things, but I’m working that out in a convo with Dana! Stay tuned. Thoughts may change.
Ftr this was the post that confused me the most re your read on tangy, it seemed like you were changing your mind on her here but now you say she was consistent?
I think she meant she was changing her mind on me here, not tangy

oh I did in fact misread it then

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:02 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!
This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?
What don't you like about it? Seems non AI to me.
Unlike your posts that felt genuine, this feels like a forced nicety. Among a couple other things, but I’m working that out in a convo with Dana! Stay tuned. Thoughts may change.

Ftr this was the post that confused me the most re your read on tangy, it seemed like you were changing your mind on her here but now you say she was consistent?

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:00 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:55 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:52 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:40 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:36 pm

For this. She townread me followed by a discredit.
What was the discredit?
That I'm town but my perspective is wack. Feels like a gaslight, the kind of read that tells the thread that I could be town but my reads cannot be taken serious.
It's just my thoughts dude, I can think youre town while also thinking your perspective is misguided
I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Can you explain why you voted for Nanook? Guillo says it was the self-vote. Can you elaborate?
like I just said I didn't know he had self voted until after I voted lol. I voted him mostly to get things going and he was one of two people who had been in thread at the time that I didn't actively townread already (the other being sloonei) and he was saying some nanookishly cagey things so I just tossed a vote on to see what would happen.

Moved to you fairly soon after as I didn't like your first few posts but your increased activity feels better. I'm still not understanding your take on Tangy's posts though, if you have a read there would like more explanation.
Thanks! My read on Tangy is just that I liked their opening. I felt that Tangy’s mindset was on getting into the game rather than creating an appearance. Their first posts felt genuine and as others joined in the game, the tone remained consistent. No wavering. I don’t have a confident read on Tangy, I just liked their opening.

Is that the only reason you’re voting for me?

Not really the only reason no I just sort of generally toneread you as wolfy/found your approach disingenuous, starting with the dana read (bc again I'm a defender of hedginess and didn't see it your way). But as you've posted more it seems like that's just your style and you are poking in various places and have solvey intentions. I could move off you but don't know where

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:52 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:40 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:36 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:33 pm Wait, @Guillotine, did you answer why you suspect Nutella?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way
For this. She townread me followed by a discredit.
What was the discredit?
That I'm town but my perspective is wack. Feels like a gaslight, the kind of read that tells the thread that I could be town but my reads cannot be taken serious.
It's just my thoughts dude, I can think youre town while also thinking your perspective is misguided
I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Can you explain why you voted for Nanook? Guillo says it was the self-vote. Can you elaborate?

like I just said I didn't know he had self voted until after I voted lol. I voted him mostly to get things going and he was one of two people who had been in thread at the time that I didn't actively townread already (the other being sloonei) and he was saying some nanookishly cagey things so I just tossed a vote on to see what would happen.

Moved to you fairly soon after as I didn't like your first few posts but your increased activity feels better. I'm still not understanding your take on Tangy's posts though, if you have a read there would like more explanation.

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:49 pm is there a way to easily search only for vote tags? searching for aubergine doesn't seem to work and it says vote is too common of a word

You have to search the browser page with ctrl+F, not the inbuilt forum search

hawkataine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:47 pm Okay anyway yes hi all I am v excited to be here which is dampened only slightly by how much y'all post lmao

Act and gnome are weird as players, can confirm, haven't really seen any suspicion on them yet that hasn't seemed like a reaction to their standard posting style

Idk if anyone was playing on MU when it first launched in like 2015-16 ish but possibly paths have crossed????? idk I very vaguely recognise some names and it's very offputting xD

I don't believe we've met but I'm enjoying your posting so far

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:45 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:42 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:40 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:36 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:33 pm Wait, @Guillotine, did you answer why you suspect Nutella?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way
For this. She townread me followed by a discredit.
What was the discredit?
That I'm town but my perspective is wack. Feels like a gaslight, the kind of read that tells the thread that I could be town but my reads cannot be taken serious.
Is there any other reason for your read or was that the only thing?
No, there is one more. Voting Nanook for self voting when it's obvious that

a) Nanook always self votes
b) It was reaction test (that she failed).

I didn't vote nanook for self voting, I literally only noticed he had self voted after I had placed my vote

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:41 pm Do the votes count in the voter thing in the order they were made? I know they don’t time stamp it, but wondering if the order is accurate.

@nutella, did you have a specific reason for voting me? (I might have missed it).

unfortunately the poll doesn't show order necessarily, it used to and we've been hoping to get it fixed. but that's why we try to call votes in thread with the tags as well

I voted you because your townread/backtrack of tangy felt unnatural

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:40 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:36 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:33 pm Wait, @Guillotine, did you answer why you suspect Nutella?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way
For this. She townread me followed by a discredit.
What was the discredit?
That I'm town but my perspective is wack. Feels like a gaslight, the kind of read that tells the thread that I could be town but my reads cannot be taken serious.

It's just my thoughts dude, I can think youre town while also thinking your perspective is misguided

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:21 pm What happened in spiderverse?

mac was wolf and fooled me pretty hard/won in endgame

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm So Gavial townreads me for my reaction to Nutella but townreads Nutella anyway?
is there a problem with that? I think your tone/approach looks like town even if I disagree with your takes, and I think Jay expressed a similar view
There is a problem because he can't bake the cake and eat it too. Let me level with you, I scumread you for that exact post, so he can't agree with me and then go ahead and townread you too, hell to the no.

....townreading you doesn't equal agreeing with you

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:12 pm when was the last time I was mafia and an easy read in your view?
In a game that I played, probably Steely Dan. I haven't played in many games if any since where you've been mafia. I've spectated a few and can't remember if I was always spoiled.
how long ago was that game? 2019?
This means shit to me. You've been town lately and I've had no trouble finding it.

Do that again and we'll be fine.

did you follow spiderverse?

yeah i'm not convinced what jay is talking about applies to literal 2021 mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:10 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:09 pm there are differences in how mac "does" chaos as town vs mafia but it's not necessarily a regular pattern ime
articulate them

lol

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:10 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:09 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:03 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:00 pm I feel null about them. I’m waiting to hear back from Alison on a couple things.

With the “healthy dose” of criticism on me, what do you make of it? Do you have a read on me? On those voting me?
I read all four of your voters as town to varying degrees. I understand the criticism and think that it's at least technically valid even if it doesn't sell me -- you'd be in what is presently a vast POE pool and on the short list of votes I'd consider. I want you to have an opportunity to go about your hunt and game solving your own way, so I release you from my own questions. Thanks for answering.
I appreciate the formality here lol. What doesn’t sell you about their arguments?
Being stilted is not a terribly reliable tell in my experience, and your suspicion of Dana doesn't have to be fake. You're not the only one expressing it.
Yeah, I'm not feeling the stilted thing as particularly meaningful for the same reason.

no so actually anyone who has a different posting style from me is a wolf, sorry thats just how it is

jk im starting to think actv is just like that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:02 pm I choose to believe Guillo really did catch Nutella and Alison.
LAMISAAOC
what's this mean?
Look at Me I'm Such an Agent of Chaos
do you think that's hit an AI mark for mac?
do you?

idk should i

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm So Gavial townreads me for my reaction to Nutella but townreads Nutella anyway?

is there a problem with that? I think your tone/approach looks like town even if I disagree with your takes, and I think Jay expressed a similar view

there are differences in how mac "does" chaos as town vs mafia but it's not necessarily a regular pattern ime

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:02 pm I choose to believe Guillo really did catch Nutella and Alison.
LAMISAAOC
what's this mean?
Look at Me I'm Such an Agent of Chaos

do you think that's hit an AI mark for mac?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:02 pm I choose to believe Guillo really did catch Nutella and Alison.

gottem

turn down for what

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:41 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:40 pm [VOTE: Dana] aubergine
Do you think your read on Garden Gnome doesn't feature equivocation?
Not the way in which Dana is with their posts this game. Starting from Dana’s first post through most subsequent posts, Dana is equivocating. At some point, I think it’s safe to say there is some level of back and forth from players. It isn’t about a single post. Dana started off right away careful about appearing a certain way. Dana cared more about appearances and had a focus on how they came across to others.

I’m very firm when I say I can’t read Gnome. I am not offering a read on gnome so much as explaining to you why I will likely refrain from reading her. I don’t see it the same way.

hmm ok

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:44 pm
Kito wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:42 pm If act has a read on gnome already she's a hot stinking liar
opportunistic

.....wat

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:42 pm I think I like Mac, but I'll inevitably tunnel him at some point.

this is the way

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:30 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:24 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:16 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:50 pm
Can you two tell me what you think of each other so far?

@Dana
@Alison
Alison seems to kind of roll up and somehow very quickly get a handle on what's going on. from what I know of her, she seems to be super logical and analytical which makes her a strong player. I trust her for the most part, but still a little warily for now
I do not like the equivocation in your posts. You are not confident in what you’re posting. There is hesitation which tells me you’re afraid to commit to an idea. If you’re town, your opinion is your opinion. No need to equivocate. It is scummy behavior to step so carefully around an opinion.

I’ve voted for you, and this is partly why.
no
No what?

hedging isn't scummy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:21 pm Today I will be tunneling Nanook until he died.

lol sup

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:16 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:50 pm
Can you two tell me what you think of each other so far?

@Dana
@Alison
Alison seems to kind of roll up and somehow very quickly get a handle on what's going on. from what I know of her, she seems to be super logical and analytical which makes her a strong player. I trust her for the most part, but still a little warily for now
I do not like the equivocation in your posts. You are not confident in what you’re posting. There is hesitation which tells me you’re afraid to commit to an idea. If you’re town, your opinion is your opinion. No need to equivocate. It is scummy behavior to step so carefully around an opinion.

I’ve voted for you, and this is partly why.

no

Kito wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:14 pm what the frick frack snick snack is going ON fellas

town

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:38 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:19 pm Hi, I am a Gnome! I spend a lot of time in the garden so I don't go out on very many dates. I understand about feeling nervous and excited and about the need to have a healthy dose of paranoia because I too get pcoketed a lot by eager scum! They are so charming that I end up on and I am not even aware of all of the noisy howls It is very sad. I am looking for a sweet towny date and feel nervous and excited about finding romance, despite the presence of scummy scum scum!
I'm torn about this post more than I'd typically be for some early Day 1 thing.

Some part of me appreciates this pointed effort from Garden Gnome to reach across the site aisle to offer Dana encouragement, and the enthusiasm is nice. The language bears that sort of surface appearance that often gets people into trouble (e.g. scummy scum scum), sometimes rightly and often not.

Seeking opinions

Having played with Gnome before I'm not specifically concerned, her tone is just like that regardless of alignment

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way
prob
Yep I’m convinced.
Jimmy!Scum TMI’s Nutella!Town
This is an obvious pocket for scum Jimmy.

lol

[VOTE: actvscenei] aubergine

got the sense she had tmi on tangy and then walked it back a little

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:16 pm
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:02 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:01 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!
This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?
What don't you like about it? Seems non AI to me.
Unlike your posts that felt genuine, this feels like a forced nicety. Among a couple other things, but I’m working that out in a convo with Dana! Stay tuned. Thoughts may change.

Huh

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:08 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:06 pm Guillo you agree with actv re: dana? I had the opposite reaction, I thought dana's tone was more villagery and actv's game me awk vibes

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:18 pm hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

why would a wolf say that lol

Guillo you agree with actv re: dana? I had the opposite reaction, I thought dana's tone was more villagery and actv's game me awk vibes

that damned smile

why allcrab tho

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!

okay so for those of you who don't know gavial

just do the opposite of what he says, ez win

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:14 pm First date icebreaker question for everyone: what’s your favorite trip you’ve ever been on?
Disney World/Disney Cruises. And you?

Follow up, why did you choose to ask this particular question?

wolfy first post

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 pm It occurs to me that my typical first date experience is often a lot like my typical Day 1 experience in Mafia -- I feel like I have to do most of the talking to keep things moving, and it usually ends with me losing.
You’ve probably just been dating a lot of wolves. Don’t let them fool you.
Is dating a lot of wolves like kissing a lot of frogs before you find your one true love?
If so, I've dated too many wolves.
They've sweet talked me.
Let me know that I was their one and only.
And then, they made me cry.
I still believe in love and I hope that, in this lovely new place, I can find my one and only.
Who is it?

is this a riddle

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