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by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:38 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

oh no wait roxy might be clear

did anyone verify that "never busses" claim
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: roxy] aubergine
pyxxy is my top townread

if roxy claims doc just exe in camilla/jack and go the other tomorrow if the first flips town

i trust pyxxy to make the right call if hes around for eod today/f3 if it comes to that
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

maybe pyxxy just played a very clean scum game. but if so he left no trace. I cant get there on him being mafia even if he is so its useless being paranoid that he is some god wolf that snowed me hard .......not to mention.......I also.......rejected scotty/me thunderdone.......when wilgy would hav...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:31 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

maybe pyxxy just played a very clean scum game. but if so he left no trace. I cant get there on him being mafia even if he is so its useless being paranoid that he is some god wolf that snowed me hard .......not to mention.......I also.......rejected scotty/me thunderdone.......when wilgy would hav...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:24 pm Is it bad that Roxy is my gth guess for the wolf and the doctor? :haha:
it is kinda shit because if she is doc and claims to avoid death then we just exposed the doc and are back to square 1
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:28 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

so what has wolf camilla been doing all game exactly? doming jack? sitting there jacking off while i kill her entire team?
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

maybe pyxxy just played a very clean scum game. but if so he left no trace. I cant get there on him being mafia even if he is so its useless being paranoid that he is some god wolf that snowed me hard
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:24 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

yall are gonna make me stay up huh
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

[unvote][/unvote]
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

mehhh this sucks because cam is actually townie in recennt posts too
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

if roxy is wolf then from her pov i am doc pyxxy didnt claim doc when asked at eod1, cam and jack are obviously not doc (not gonna keep up the pretense that jack could be atp) so i am the worst person to shade today for w roxy as she has to immediately kill me, make herself look dumb + cant exe the...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

if roxy is wolf then from her pov i am doc pyxxy didnt claim doc when asked at eod1, cam and jack are obviously not doc (not gonna keep up the pretense that jack could be atp) so i am the worst person to shade today for w roxy as she has to immediately kill me, make herself look dumb + cant exe the ...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:53 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

@Camilla hypothetical: we exe jack, he flips town

Your next move is?
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:38 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Why does this game feel so shit to play the day after we exed wolf PR
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:30 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

> What wolf Jack would actually do) Pretebd to be tunneled on you. I agree with this. It is why I decided against voting Jack. I thought to myself what would wolf Jack never do and unvoting Camilla is one of them. He can never win with Camilla alive, never. I just iso'd pyxxy and found him town. Ro...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:29 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I guess the question is if we should ever be wagoning outside camilla and jack today

I think the answer is no

If pyxxy/roxy/myself are wagoned and claim doc then we're back to voting in camilla/jack except this time the doc is exposed
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:27 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

> What wolf Jack would actually do) Pretebd to be tunneled on you. I agree with this. It is why I decided against voting Jack. I thought to myself what would wolf Jack never do and unvoting Camilla is one of them. He can never win with Camilla alive, never. I just iso'd pyxxy and found him town. Ro...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:26 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I really do think Jack has been townie toDay. I have only seen him scum once I don't know how easily he can fake it. But it is townie.
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

> What wolf Jack would actually do) Pretebd to be tunneled on you. I agree with this. It is why I decided against voting Jack. I thought to myself what would wolf Jack never do and unvoting Camilla is one of them. He can never win with Camilla alive, never. I just iso'd pyxxy and found him town. Ro...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:21 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

@Camilla You said you think Roxy is the doctor? Doesn't wolf Jack prefer to elim you at F5 where Roxy will vote with him insteaf of F3 where he has to kill her because she's doc?
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:19 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

> What wolf Jack would actually do) Pretebd to be tunneled on you. I agree with this. It is why I decided against voting Jack. I thought to myself what would wolf Jack never do and unvoting Camilla is one of them. He can never win with Camilla alive, never. I just iso'd pyxxy and found him town. Rox...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:36 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I have to sleep

[VOTE: Camilla] aubergine

Hope I wake up to the game having ended.
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:58 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I'm not sure how hard wolf Roxy would have felt forced to vote there... would she really have gotten flak if she'd voted pyxxy and he flipped green? I reckon in that scenario Zenon and tutuu would have taken most of the blame
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:54 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I wont be around for EOD due to sleep. Will have a think during supper and vote before I go to sleep.
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:53 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Overall iso looks pretty clean. Doesn't have a perfect track record of pushing on wolves but nobody in this game has and I had similar reads D3 myself. Has been pushed by wolves and pushed them in ways that don't look like theater. Some micro interactions that I'm skeptical most wolves think to fak...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:52 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Overall iso looks pretty clean. Doesn't have a perfect track record of pushing on wolves but nobody in this game has and I had similar reads D3 myself. Has been pushed by wolves and pushed them in ways that don't look like theater. Some micro interactions that I'm skeptical most wolves think to fake...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:48 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

SoD4, Scotty tries to thunderdome him. He votes Scotty, talks to him for a while, and basically says "yeah i found you as town scotty, thank you for this" and unvotes Scotty.

Very unlikely to do that if his teammate Wilgy is planning on trying to get the dome going, IMO.
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:46 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

.......wilgy.......been.......town.......to.......me.......for.....................a.......while.......now....... .......if not.......falcon..............would vote..............scotty/wilgy?.......unsure.......sorry tutuu.......I'll.......vote.......after.......some more.......sleep.............. ...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:40 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I won't quote EOD1 but it didn't feel like SvS to me. pyxxy spends most of the time trying to get Zenon and tutuu to articulate and question why they townread Porscha and scumread him, which strikes me as a way that gets Porscha killed a lot of the time but gives pyxxy very little towncred. The dema...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:33 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplayin...
by Alison
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:30 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:45 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:23 pm I think Porscha is out of her wolf range + she's playing completely different from the one time I saw her wolf
.......do I.......have to..............again.......sigh
Not really the reaction I'd expect from someone who just saw Alison lock clear their wolf buddy.
by Alison
Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:46 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I'll reread pyxxy to double check in the evening

Fair point that roxy would just take the camilla/jack chain exes, i just squinty eyed at her suddenly deciding I was a top suspect after ignoring me all game, and for bad reasons too
by Alison
Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:13 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

for example a thought that keeps coming to my mind is, why does camilla let herself be strongarmed into voting wilgy? she had enough clout to refuse and size 20 all caps into another exe at the time that I pinged her. Does she just shrug and let me coerce her into voting the rb when the doc is alive?
by Alison
Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

sod2 -> sod4, typo
by Alison
Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Re: "why is Alison so uncertain at f5" it is harder to make the decision for me than it is for you. I've pretty clearly implied that Jack has been townier than Camilla today (and I think the last page or twi especially) but keep in mind that just sod2 I had camilla as a top townread and ja...
by Alison
Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplayin...
by Alison
Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Thread died huh?

Where is roxy?
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Does it help us to block wolf jack from ccing doc at f3?

lets say jack goes f3 with vt and doc

doc claims -> jack ccs -> jack vs doc tdome

doc claims -> jack doesnt cc -> jack vs vt tdome

either way jack has to tdome someone so it doesnt help him much?
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:53 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I'm not saying a fucking word about who I'm voting or what claim I'm believing at f3 and neither should anyone else. First because I don't know myself and often re-read and reevaluate at f3 and you should too. Second because we shouldnt give wolves any hint about what combo of townies is most likely...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I need to travel to another city so ill be gone for a few hours. Will check back in later today. I ask that jack and camilla refrain from the thing where they quote every post the other person writes and goes "this is outing". Even if you are right it doesnt help me get there on them and b...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I wanna do a trustfall and distrustfall .......don't forget.......yourself....... Well a trustfall and distrustfall is when you list the strongest reason to townread or scumread someone And the idea is you get a better sense of the solve by seeing who you had to try the hardest to come up with reas...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:05 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Trustfall Camilla - voted two wolves early and didnt move off, tutuu and zenon had her in towncore, has had clout + personality to get the wagons off her partners if scum but hasnt really made an attempt to do so. No idea how she finds her way to a win if she forces a tdome with jack Jack - his sol...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Distrustfall Camilla - I'm not really sure if I buy some of her self defense today. Its true that tutuu and zenon townreading her counts for something but it feels iffy for her to frame it like she would never kill them even though she obviously would. It makes some sense for porscha to be demoraliz...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Trustfall Camilla - voted two wolves early and didnt move off, tutuu and zenon had her in towncore, has had clout + personality to get the wagons off her partners if scum but hasnt really made an attempt to do so. No idea how she finds her way to a win if she forces a tdome with jack Jack - his solv...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:48 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

I wanna do a trustfall and distrustfall
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:39 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Unfortunately I don't think I can. The way I treat my PR reads is that I defend them if they're pushed and nothing else as if they're not in danger of being ML'd then there's no point to do so as you're just signaling to the wolves. Since Roxy wasn't being under pressure then there was no point in ...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Meh i think its fine to be like "flipped town had me as locktown in their legacy, even if they were killed for mech reasons theyre good players and you should listen to their reads" Im more interested in this whole "it was clear i read roxy as doc yesterday"... afaict there is no...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

PRs are never blatant. Only time where I've seen a PR be this blatant was in that Thirteen Decades game when Alison was gimmicking as Ilya and was the obvious town investigative role d1. And I killed her n1. What gave it away? Was it the part where I said "I'M THE TOWN PR!!!!!!" and then ...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Scotty didn’t townread you. Scotty was undecided while Roxy was tunneling me. If I'm mafia then why is Roxy still alive? But you just argued that all the nks were townreading you. More dishonesty. https://media.tenor.com/ib32cE7tQBwAAAAC/daniel-bryan-fickle.gif You thought Scotty was more likely th...
by Alison
Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 37234

Re: [D5] Apathy Mafia

Scotty didn’t townread you. Scotty was undecided while Roxy was tunneling me. If I'm mafia then why is Roxy still alive? But you just argued that all the nks were townreading you. More dishonesty. https://media.tenor.com/ib32cE7tQBwAAAAC/daniel-bryan-fickle.gif You thought Scotty was more likely th...

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