The Syndicate

[VOTE: Camilla] aubergine

Just testing my mic, don’t mind me

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:34 pm I commented on what I wanted for now I am going to try and stay caught up. Granddaughter will not be back until wednesday.

Take your time, we’ve got 24 hours

Day 2
How did we go from here:

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 1:03 am -----------------
Camilla
Alison
Zenon
Scotty
tutuu

Rondo
Wilgy
J

falcon
Pyxxy

Roxy
-----------------

Roughly where I'm at, I think?

Don't necessarily think that the game's just as easy as Roxy/Pyxxy.

Pyxxy's lack of town entitlement was meh but the way Porscha/Pyxxy handled each other kind of doesn't feel W/W-ish at all.

Gonna head to bed and think about this when I wake up.

To here:

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:40 am [VOTE: Prince J] aubergine

Your progression went:
-Roxy bad
-(me presenting argument that Roxy might be town with her meta)
-oh, you should have mentioned that earlier
-vote prince

why did you breeze straight past falcon/pyxxy, who were supposedly in the next tier?

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:29 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:12 pm Camilla has been really agreeable with most of my reads all game and is firmly wedged in the consensus town thots and it’s actually weirding me out

Should I be weirded out?
I mean, I've been making a high amount of reads this game since I started playing d2, so it's no real surprise that many of them seem agreeable.
Oh, I agree- it looks like you’ve been solving, which is a big reason I’ve been townreading you.

It’s not even that tho. I just combed through your iso and there isn’t much that seems….I dunno…fresh? Does that make sense? It hasn’t been on my radar because I happen to have agreed with your reads up to this point, but when I look at it in a vacuum:

-you weren’t around much to interact with Porscha on D1, and your interactions amounted to pointing out Alison was voting for porscha. Like, perfectly fine partner equity there
-you come up with a POE of like 6 people at top of D2, and, to be fair, you break some of those down
-Roxy is a top scumread for a bit, but the town consensus backs off, so you do too. Sure, that can be organic
-you ‘locktown’ zenon which is fine in a vacuum, but that can be pocketing

***********
-this post makes absolutely no sense and I completely missed it:
Spoiler: show

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:37 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:34 am Cherry picking Porscha’s iso:
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:25 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 9:59 pm Odds any of zenon/Alison/Seanzie/tutuu are mafia?
why didn't you include wilgy..?
2nd post of the game, throws Wilgy into the mix, who had 1 post. Real good look for Wilgy.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:40 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:06 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:27 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:05 am

Prince popping in to respond to that and dip is surface level wolfy but I don't really think it is especially if PJ doesn't know Tutuu and their first interaction here is that post because I might like dip and never come back if someone said that to me in my first game somewhere lol I have no clue if PJ knows tutuu and what not but I don't think he's ever played here before. To be clear I don't think Tutuu said anything egregious and knowing them it's just like Tutuu being tutuu but if I didn't have that history and that was the first post I saw i might not take it that way ya dig.

Seanzie having an early tr on me is weird and I don't like it but it's defs not AI because for like 2 months straight Sean had called me wolf day1 regardless of his alignment and incorrectly every game.

Tutuu having an early confident tr on me is... weird because I don't think tutuu has ever seen me wolf so they have nothing to compare to. Well no they hosted me as wolf but never played against it. Anyways this is fakeable for me. But tutuu does this every game with me so it's probs just tutuu indicative.

Wilgy posting opener felt weirdly stilted to me and has only done that. It's like a play on his genetic opening but it just felt...weird vibes.

Sorry this took so long I'm at work and our internet is cutting in and out tonight.
zenon don't say everything is fakeable challenge
Everything is fakeable including this post

Our friendship is not fakeable though. <3
oh no she's pocketing me this early already
Banter w/ zenon is fluff and probably AI but leaning talking with town

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:40 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:06 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:31 am great game, guys. line up for comradery butt slaps
So like... wanna chat. I'm bored.
yes

what we chat about
Yeah I don’t think this is manufactured. They would have their own Scumchat for this.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:09 am It took several hours of playing circus music and specialized Clown Treats (my clown is on a special diet recommended by the clown doctor due to this allergies) to properly calm him down. I'm glad my little guy is okay but the NERVE of some people. Please do not approach another clown owner on the street with your clown without asking first and checking to make sure it is okay!!! Ugh!!

Unless my clown is tutuu, in which case, please approach at any and all costs to pet her. She needs as much validation and attention as possible. You may also honk her nose, which will prompt her to wag her tell and make a beeping noise at you. The pitch of the beep will let you know how much she likes you! The higher the pitch of the beep, the more she likes you! If you're lucky, she might even perform some of the tricks I taught her, just for you. But if tutuu doesn't like you, her beeps will be deep pitched and she will growl threateningly. Don't worry, she doesn't bite; she just likes to let everyone know how she feels about them. Please back off my clown if she growls, despite her tail wagging due to the attention given. If my clown starts performing tricks for you, you are contractually obligated to watch all of them and applaud her and give her treats afterwards. I will hold you at gunpoint to ensure you treat my clown with the respect she deserves.
The appropriation of tutuu into Porscha’s clown pet fantasy indicates to me a form of attempted pocketing.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:53 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:51 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:48 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:47 am
I live in Maryland. We are crabby in the morning.
yeah it's just normal human time to wake up lol
nice maryland crab joke
I'm an still very crabby in the morning, so no joke is a true story.
oh lol my apologies for the misunderstanding

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:54 am can I perhaps expect reads from you by day 2 then roxy
This whole exchange with Roxy is pure softball and absolutely AI tho.
“hey, I like your shirt, do you like Blink 182?”
“Yeah I can blink 182 times real fast”
“Oh, word. Sorry. I’ll leave you to it. Word”

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:01 pm i'm parking vote on pyxxy until he play game
Conditional vote on possible teammate.
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:07 pm google says I have to vote her in a mafia game as punishment so if pyxxy ever comes back today then you all know what I am doing next
Very conditional vote on possible teammate.
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad
it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.
Who do you think is mafia?
I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting
This is such a cop out! ‘I don’t mind pyxxy dying, but I can’t focus on half the player list because these 3 names I picked out of a hat aren’t posting.’

This post is probably one of the most enlightening in the ISO. Why Wilgy/Camilla/falcon? Why not Prince, who is equally as absent?

Based on Porscha’s iso alone:
Town:
Zenon, tutuu, Wilgy.

Most potentially aligned:
Pyxxy > Roxy > Prince > falcon/alison (her only interactions there were ‘Alison will love this’ and ‘falcon come play’)

If Tutuu is a wolf then it means that d1 we had two wolves shitposting about clown fantasies in the thread and that's a... uh, something I don't see every game, to put it mildly.

Why did you quote my entire iso post on Porscha and bring up a made-up argument of tutuu being wolf? Like, my conclusion with tutuu from that was she looked like top town from interactions alone.

EBWOP: fixed a sentence

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:12 pm Camilla has been really agreeable with most of my reads all game and is firmly wedged in the consensus town thots and it’s actually weirding me out

Should I be weirded out?
I mean, I've been making a high amount of reads this game since I started playing d2, so it's no real surprise that many of them seem agreeable.

Oh, I agree- it looks like you’ve been solving, which is a big reason I’ve been townreading you.

It’s not even that tho. I just combed through your iso and there isn’t much that seems….I dunno…fresh? Does that make sense? It hasn’t been on my radar because I happen to have agreed with your reads up to this point, but when I look at it in a vacuum:

-you weren’t around much to interact with Porscha on D1, and your interactions amounted to pointing out Alison was voting for you. Like, perfectly fine partner equity there
-you come up with a POE of like 6 people at top of D2, and, to be fair, you break some of those down
-Roxy is a top scumread for a bit, but the town consensus backs off, so you do too. Sure, that can be organic
-you ‘locktown’ zenon which is fine in a vacuum, but that can be pocketing

***********
-this post makes absolutely no sense and I completely missed it:

Spoiler: show

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:37 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 11:34 am Cherry picking Porscha’s iso:
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:25 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 9:59 pm Odds any of zenon/Alison/Seanzie/tutuu are mafia?
why didn't you include wilgy..?
2nd post of the game, throws Wilgy into the mix, who had 1 post. Real good look for Wilgy.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:40 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:06 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:27 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:05 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 2:25 am
What are your thoughts?
Prince popping in to respond to that and dip is surface level wolfy but I don't really think it is especially if PJ doesn't know Tutuu and their first interaction here is that post because I might like dip and never come back if someone said that to me in my first game somewhere lol I have no clue if PJ knows tutuu and what not but I don't think he's ever played here before. To be clear I don't think Tutuu said anything egregious and knowing them it's just like Tutuu being tutuu but if I didn't have that history and that was the first post I saw i might not take it that way ya dig.

Seanzie having an early tr on me is weird and I don't like it but it's defs not AI because for like 2 months straight Sean had called me wolf day1 regardless of his alignment and incorrectly every game.

Tutuu having an early confident tr on me is... weird because I don't think tutuu has ever seen me wolf so they have nothing to compare to. Well no they hosted me as wolf but never played against it. Anyways this is fakeable for me. But tutuu does this every game with me so it's probs just tutuu indicative.

Wilgy posting opener felt weirdly stilted to me and has only done that. It's like a play on his genetic opening but it just felt...weird vibes.

Sorry this took so long I'm at work and our internet is cutting in and out tonight.
zenon don't say everything is fakeable challenge
Everything is fakeable including this post

Our friendship is not fakeable though. <3
oh no she's pocketing me this early already
Banter w/ zenon is fluff and probably AI but leaning talking with town

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:40 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:06 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 3:31 am great game, guys. line up for comradery butt slaps
So like... wanna chat. I'm bored.
yes

what we chat about
Yeah I don’t think this is manufactured. They would have their own Scumchat for this.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:09 am It took several hours of playing circus music and specialized Clown Treats (my clown is on a special diet recommended by the clown doctor due to this allergies) to properly calm him down. I'm glad my little guy is okay but the NERVE of some people. Please do not approach another clown owner on the street with your clown without asking first and checking to make sure it is okay!!! Ugh!!

Unless my clown is tutuu, in which case, please approach at any and all costs to pet her. She needs as much validation and attention as possible. You may also honk her nose, which will prompt her to wag her tell and make a beeping noise at you. The pitch of the beep will let you know how much she likes you! The higher the pitch of the beep, the more she likes you! If you're lucky, she might even perform some of the tricks I taught her, just for you. But if tutuu doesn't like you, her beeps will be deep pitched and she will growl threateningly. Don't worry, she doesn't bite; she just likes to let everyone know how she feels about them. Please back off my clown if she growls, despite her tail wagging due to the attention given. If my clown starts performing tricks for you, you are contractually obligated to watch all of them and applaud her and give her treats afterwards. I will hold you at gunpoint to ensure you treat my clown with the respect she deserves.
The appropriation of tutuu into Porscha’s clown pet fantasy indicates to me a form of attempted pocketing.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:53 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:51 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:48 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:47 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:46 am

>"it isn't morning. they must be on an opposite schedule somewhere not in the US"
>*realizes it's almost 4am and dumb*

I need to not be awake
I live in Maryland. We are crabby in the morning.
yeah it's just normal human time to wake up lol
nice maryland crab joke
I'm an still very crabby in the morning, so no joke is a true story.
oh lol my apologies for the misunderstanding

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:54 am can I perhaps expect reads from you by day 2 then roxy
This whole exchange with Roxy is pure softball and absolutely AI tho.
“hey, I like your shirt, do you like Blink 182?”
“Yeah I can blink 182 times real fast”
“Oh, word. Sorry. I’ll leave you to it. Word”

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:01 pm i'm parking vote on pyxxy until he play game
Conditional vote on possible teammate.
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 5:07 pm google says I have to vote her in a mafia game as punishment so if pyxxy ever comes back today then you all know what I am doing next
Very conditional vote on possible teammate.
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad
it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.
Who do you think is mafia?
I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting
This is such a cop out! ‘I don’t mind pyxxy dying, but I can’t focus on half the player list because these 3 names I picked out of a hat aren’t posting.’

This post is probably one of the most enlightening in the ISO. Why Wilgy/Camilla/falcon? Why not Prince, who is equally as absent?

Based on Porscha’s iso alone:
Town:
Zenon, tutuu, Wilgy.

Most potentially aligned:
Pyxxy > Roxy > Prince > falcon/alison (her only interactions there were ‘Alison will love this’ and ‘falcon come play’)

If Tutuu is a wolf then it means that d1 we had two wolves shitposting about clown fantasies in the thread and that's a... uh, something I don't see every game, to put it mildly.

Why did you quote my entire iso post on Porscha and bring up a made-up argument of tutuu being wolf? Like, my conclusion with tutuu from that was she looked like top town from interactions alone.

Camilla has been really agreeable with most of my reads all game and is firmly wedged in the consensus town thots and it’s actually weirding me out

Should I be weirded out?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 4:10 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:41 pm scotty ur a fucking wolf u didnt tinfoil zenon u have 2 posts mentioning her on day 2, one defending her and one defending urself from someone by citing you're sheeipng her and me
thanks for doing the leg work on this.

lol

She reaches the wrong conclusion

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:32 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:10 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 7:37 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:55 am D1.......manifest............................tutuu.......tell them..............my scum range.......again.......pls and ty.......

..............when wolfing.......with.......Porsch-dawg..............I..............lolcatted..............I would.......never.......repeat that..............consecutive..............ergo..............eod D1.......wagons.......would.......never.......happen............................fin.......
.......for.......legal.......reasons............................pyxxy's.......ego.......is.......involved.......here.......
your scum range is large, in a vacuum everything you've said and done this game is possible by scum pyxxy

but the second point is good. if you're mafia you're replicating letter for letter the same scenario with wolf porscha. and i agree its not likely for wolves to do that in two consecutive games. there was a similar argument with rondo doing something similar to porscha and he argued he wouldnt do it right after a wolf flipped, as wolf, and it was right
Eh. They’re both independent thinkers, and it’s not like pyxxy is actually lolcatting here. He has a gimmick, sure, but I wouldn’t even call it replication of Porscha’s tone.

I mean, it’s not like pyxxy and Porscha *wanted* to be wagons at eod.
i meant replicating his previous scum game with porscha where they bussed each other

Once a bus driver, it’s easier to get a future job as a bus driver

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:52 am Jack subs in and agrees with consensus scumreads how exciting.

It’s valuable information, so thank you for looking into the reads.

I am leaning towards town for your slot fwiw

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:24 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:14 am I should probably read the last six or so Falcon posts in case he said something there that makes me sound stupid in hindsight
Yeah not really, no.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:18 am Hey Jack, do pyxxy next
K. FYI, I don’t understand the bit where Pyxxy (pronounced “pixie” in my head) was like “Why would I do that thing I did as a wolf again immediately when it failed so bad last time?” and Tutuu was like “Hmm yes” because I probably wasn’t in that game.

yeah, tutuu sus

Hey Jack, do pyxxy next

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:56 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:17 am Jack has been fairly uninspiring, tbh.

How bout now?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:52 am You should sleep more than 14 hours in 3 nights that’s like not good for you.

Wait I missed that bit

@pyxxy we need to get you a good pillow my fae

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 7:37 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:55 am D1.......manifest............................tutuu.......tell them..............my scum range.......again.......pls and ty.......

..............when wolfing.......with.......Porsch-dawg..............I..............lolcatted..............I would.......never.......repeat that..............consecutive..............ergo..............eod D1.......wagons.......would.......never.......happen............................fin.......
.......for.......legal.......reasons............................pyxxy's.......ego.......is.......involved.......here.......
your scum range is large, in a vacuum everything you've said and done this game is possible by scum pyxxy

but the second point is good. if you're mafia you're replicating letter for letter the same scenario with wolf porscha. and i agree its not likely for wolves to do that in two consecutive games. there was a similar argument with rondo doing something similar to porscha and he argued he wouldnt do it right after a wolf flipped, as wolf, and it was right

Eh. They’re both independent thinkers, and it’s not like pyxxy is actually lolcatting here. He has a gimmick, sure, but I wouldn’t even call it replication of Porscha’s tone.

I mean, it’s not like pyxxy and Porscha *wanted* to be wagons at eod.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 5:55 am .......summary.......instead.......of.......clogging.......with quotes.......

.......annoyed.......with.......rondo.......chop..............no.......need..............
.......zenon............................................................................................................................ ..rip.......
.......agree with.......camilla.......tutuu.......town.......
.......agree with.......nka.......PR.......hunt.......

.......scotty.......falcon.......team.......saves.......porscha.......imo.....................scotty.......manages.......something.......anything.......eod D1?.......
.......does.......scotty.......tr.......zenon.......this.......hard.......only.......to.....................nk? - https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 4#p1050784
...................................the way.......falcon..............breaks meta..............≠..............the way..............Porscha..............breaks meta.......

.......scotty town.......imo.......or w/e.......tbtbtbwbwwwwwbwbbbwttttbtbttbwbwbtbtbtwbtb.......ya feel.......

.....................I've...................................absolutely.......coasted.......but.......I've.......also.......slept.......14hours.......in the last.......three days.......(own volition).......

..............c'est la vie..............

...................................lede me, readmour.......
.......my.......greatest.......defense.......remains.....................as scum..............if.......I.......serious.......let.......that.......eod D1.......manifest............................tutuu.......tell them..............my scum range.......again.......pls and ty.......

..............when wolfing.......with.......Porsch-dawg..............I..............lolcatted..............I would.......never.......repeat that..............consecutive..............ergo..............eod D1.......wagons.......would.......never.......happen............................fin.......
.......for.......legal.......reasons............................pyxxy's.......ego.......is.......involved.......here.......

.......wilgy.......been.......town.......to.......me.......for.....................a.......while.......now.......

so............................by.......logical.......inference.......wouldn't.......vote.......today.......scotty, tutuu, wilgy..............likely.......also.......not vote.......roxy.......

.......fading.......ttyl

I think your biggest defense at this point is boxing yourself into a corner with this gimmick is probably not ideal as wolf lol

Question: have you ever used a gimmick and then dropped it as either alignment?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:14 am Kind of think the wilgy "wolfy 4th vote on porscha" post is townie for being reverse self aware

Like if porscha flipped town that post would look scummy because it feels like hes too aware hes killing a townie with that post. But porscha is mafia so now it feels like he legit didnt know if she would flip scum or not and was being self deprecating if she flipped town and he looked bad off it

yeah that’s my favorite post of Wilgy’s and also think it holds a lot of weight for me regarding my Townlean label

Could even bump him into towncore, with all 12 of his posts

Since Wilgy would appear to be falcon's biggest cheerleader left in the game that isn't the turkey vulture himself

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 10:32 am I provide for you a Wolfy 4th vote on Porscha. Good day.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 pm Probably one in Scotty, Zenon, Tutuu, Pyxxy.
Probably one in Rondo, Falcon.
Probably just Rondo because I don't see wolf Falcon.

Did Porscha have any resistance towards voting Pyxxy?

Ho well. Y'all sort it for me...

Good night.

S Tier posts imo

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 3:21 pm Nearing EoD it seems.

[VOTE: Prince J] aubergine but would prefer in Rondo/Pyxxy.

Falcon is unlikely wolf I think.

Prince J is unlikely wolf as well. I think Porscha forgot about them when they pushed for the lhf options, which is odd of a teammate. Prince J is a better PoE removal than Falcon 100% of the time though.

Has your read changed at all since this post yesterday?

Current reads:

Tutuu

Roxy
Camilla
Wilgy

Alison
Prince Jack
pyxxy
falcon

I think it's just pyxxy and falcon atm
I have Alison in there as a weird potential partner to pyxxy. Feelin cute. I....don't feel confident in many other pairings atm.
Jack can help his cause by shining his pretty domed town head in the right direction, though it's still in the POE.
Camilla is my pick for deepwolf, but I doubt her partner is anyone not named falcon/pyxxy and we can go there if we get there. Not in any rush. Haven't looked too far into that looking glass so don't @ me

Reread Prince J's ISO, and....

...I dunno, I'm like.....................not feeling like that's a hit.

I just feel like going down that path is like swatting a piñata expecting there to be candy and instead it's filled with toothbrushes

Does that make sense?

He shrugs off the Zenon/tutuu push and even says falcon can burn. That seems pro-town tbh

No but Wilgy, what reads ya got?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 10:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:09 pm Ok looked at Alison/porscha interactions.

Porscha only really talks about Alison like 'she'd love this post' and then responding to alison's vote as a 'reaction test' but wasnt worried.

Alison starts by hard defending Porscha that Porscha isn't in her wolf range, then when provided with conjecture to the contrary, does a 180 and votes there. Looks like it was the 3rd vote there...maybe? Maybe 2nd? Can't tell. But she has chances to change, and doesn't. Even townreads pyxxy, the most convincing counterwagon.

I dunno, gut says don't clear Alison but she didn't give herself many options to jump ship unless she was just fine with bussing porscha with like half a day left.

Looking closer at end of day, nothing has been done to dissuade me of seeing pyxxy as suspect. He even votes Zenon weirdly in the last 30 minutes before finally saving himself, which he had said he wasn't going to do. Hence my thought that the Roleblocker would do so in that batch.

Falcon is back in my POE as well as Prince Jack (the second of his name).

Wilgy is a ??? but agreed with others that he has been paying attention. The lowest of my townleans.
Coward.

Am I the Golden to your GMan now?

So be it.

Let's play some Chicka Chicka Boom.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 10:26 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:50 pm While anythingispossible.jpg, their heads were of the same mind at times.

I get you’re trying to figure out if I had TMI on their alignment, and that’s certainly a theory, but really I’m just that good.
Why does their heads being of the same mind indicate that they probably aren't W/V?

I can see why two villas would mindmeld and why two wolves would push the same agenda, but it's not too uncommon for a wolf to mindmeld with a pocketed villa. To me it doesn't necessarily rule out W/V.

Sometimes logic is subjective.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:55 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:50 pm I get you’re trying to figure out if I had TMI on their alignment
porscha post-mortem copium

I don’t know what this means

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:33 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:28 pm at least I can put away my tinfoil on you and zenon.
what? you didn't tinfoil zenon. am i wrong? could you quote me where did you express concern of zenon?
It was a passing fancy to be said in case yall both survived toward f5 or something

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit

other than noticing that she was the cop who had me peeked, how did you form the read that me and her are the same alignment?
Thread presence and honestly? Yall kept using the 'obvtown' argument which is very convincing if used a bunch, which it was.

A phalanx, you two. Sounds like a towncore to me and 2 deep wolves that I didn't want to go towards.
Why can't it be that one of them is a wolf who had the other pocketed? Why must they be V/V or W/W?

While anythingispossible.jpg, their heads were of the same mind at times.

I get you’re trying to figure out if I had TMI on their alignment, and that’s certainly a theory, but really I’m just that good.

look at that runaway wagon.

last time I saw this much of a runaway wagon, we ran straight into the Laramie River and Pa died of dysentery

I think it's fine tho

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:05 pm sigh ok

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

if falcon flips town and i survive im going kim jong un mode

k

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Ok looked at Alison/porscha interactions.

Porscha only really talks about Alison like 'she'd love this post' and then responding to alison's vote as a 'reaction test' but wasnt worried.

Alison starts by hard defending Porscha that Porscha isn't in her wolf range, then when provided with conjecture to the contrary, does a 180 and votes there. Looks like it was the 3rd vote there...maybe? Maybe 2nd? Can't tell. But she has chances to change, and doesn't. Even townreads pyxxy, the most convincing counterwagon.

I dunno, gut says don't clear Alison but she didn't give herself many options to jump ship unless she was just fine with bussing porscha with like half a day left.

Looking closer at end of day, nothing has been done to dissuade me of seeing pyxxy as suspect. He even votes Zenon weirdly in the last 30 minutes before finally saving himself, which he had said he wasn't going to do. Hence my thought that the Roleblocker would do so in that batch.

Falcon is back in my POE as well as Prince Jack (the second of his name).

Wilgy is a ??? but agreed with others that he has been paying attention. The lowest of my townleans.

Anyway, I take responsibility for largely turning the thread away from falcon because I was feeling cute.

I'm all for letting anyone else take the lede here.

As long as it isn't me today, because that helps very little.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:33 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:28 pm at least I can put away my tinfoil on you and zenon.
what? you didn't tinfoil zenon. am i wrong? could you quote me where did you express concern of zenon?
It was a passing fancy to be said in case yall both survived toward f5 or something

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit

other than noticing that she was the cop who had me peeked, how did you form the read that me and her are the same alignment?

Thread presence and honestly? Yall kept using the 'obvtown' argument which is very convincing if used a bunch, which it was.

A phalanx, you two. Sounds like a towncore to me and 2 deep wolves that I didn't want to go towards.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:41 pm scotty ur a fucking wolf u didnt tinfoil zenon u have 2 posts mentioning her on day 2, one defending her and one defending urself from someone by citing you're sheeipng her and me

*cough*

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:34 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:32 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:20 pm but alison and camilla wont like scotty vote

but idk it just feels like he's the deep wolf to me

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Can you make a bullet point list of why Alison? I can't make the move to add her to towncore even though I have liked what she's posted. Is it the Porscha vote?
There was a Porscha post that felt like she was salty copium over my vote on her that I think spews me town

and she was clearly in idgaf mode the entire game so I don't think she bothered faking her spew

I don't generally catapult spew into my sphere of towny influence. IMO it's easily faked to purposefully spew. I'll take a closer look at her iso concerning you tho.

What number vote were you on her? Were you towards beginning of wagon?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:33 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:28 pm at least I can put away my tinfoil on you and zenon.
what? you didn't tinfoil zenon. am i wrong? could you quote me where did you express concern of zenon?

It was a passing fancy to be said in case yall both survived toward f5 or something

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:04 pm Do we have to consider camilla scum worlds if falcon is maf

too far ahead. If camilla is scum, she's getting to endgame and we'd have to solve her there. Not in my POE as of now

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:01 pm Actually the angleshoot that scotty had tmi on the game not being flipless is intriguing... I totally assumed it was until I saw zenons flip

It's not angleshoot if I assume what the host tells us is true.
We had no reason to believe players -weren't- being flipped with their roles imo

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:21 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:58 pm can i ask you to go over why do you townread scotty again? @Camilla @Alison
Sorry, didn't see this. The short answer is that I think he has been townie on play. His tone has been fine, he feels kinda lonely in the thread, and I get pretty strong "just doing my own thing" vibes.

I'm not lock clearing him or anything but he doesn't feel like he has an agenda and I'm not gonna exe someone with fine posts when there's 3 afks

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:20 pm but alison and camilla wont like scotty vote

but idk it just feels like he's the deep wolf to me

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Can you make a bullet point list of why Alison? I can't make the move to add her to towncore even though I have liked what she's posted. Is it the Porscha vote?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:14 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:12 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:10 pm i think scotty might be too towny to be town he's never this towny, no?
Err, could you explain why?
hes never towncore, he's always poe. always gets mischopped. exaggeration, but lets go with often. hes rly calm here, sensible, collected. not chaotic. archetype of players who rand mafia and suddenly start doing what they know will be liked (as opposed to town not doing what they know is wanted of them - see town rondo)

Well that's not entirely true. I've been towncore pretty often in the past year.

I can't even remember the last time I was wolf to have a reference for how I'd act, but I change up my game style from game to game anyway.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:13 pm i think roxy and wilgy only make sense if pyxxy is wolf too. or ... "more likely", not "only"

falcon makes sense with everyone and yet i gut townread him and yet [VOTE: falcon] aubergine shrug rly hard to find u as town

i think we might be misclearing scotty especially if pyxxy is town (which would also make roxxy and wilgy town too imo)

Don't clear me

yet

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:10 pm i think scotty might be too towny to be town he's never this towny, no?

lol I've heard of twtbw but never tttbt

Anyway, while that flip isn't ideal, at least I can put away my tinfoil on you and zenon.

I still think it's best to scout out top towncore, and you, Camilla and Roxy are firmly atop it for me.

falcon got me to jump with his pleas at end of day.

I feel like pyxxy petered out once the suspicion went off him, but maybe that's just conf bias.

Gonna do some major reassessment today

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:57 pm But eh. We got lucky D1.
nooo This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

is that insane clown posse?

brb, gonna go do some light clown reading

Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:56 pm Really hoping this shit's right.

There's always a high probability that both wagons are straight town.

But eh. We got lucky D1.

Hopefully this sorts out some POEs straight

5-4 rondo with that camilla bump

the tides have shifted

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:51 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:48 pm This is egregious
mac loves that word
Quit daydreaming about Mac, you're gonna lynch town in less than 10 mins
I DONT KNOW WHOS TOWN AND WHOS NOT I CAN ONLY TRY TO GUESS

HOW CAN I BLINDLY BELIEVE U THAT UR TOWN. WHAT IF UR LYING
You SR Rondo, vote who you SR....especially given you've already said you think I'm a ML

i'm thinkin you're not w/w with Rondo atp if that makes you feel any better

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:43 pm With Prince J MIA we can at least hope he'll either show up tomorrow or get replaced

We can hope
waat he 1-posted on day 1 but he posted a lot more on day 2, did you forget about his posts lolol

yes

and that's not a good thing

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:43 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:09 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:07 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 4:04 pm oh i get to choose between making rondo or falcon the 4 vote wagon damn

last time i chose wrong

@Camilla who are u voting for? in case prince j stays at 0 non-you voters

@falcon45ca u might wanna self pres
Realistically I’d prefer Falcon to an extent. I still think Rondo’s obnoxiousness earlier on felt towny while Falcon felt more like bland oatmeal.
mmm oatmeal i eat the oeatmeal nomonmonomonom. how do u have yours? ive experimented with banana slices and recently discovered putting in sugar (american invention) - it never crossed my european relatives mind to ever put sugar in oatmeal. god bless america
I am town yo, get yer vote off my wagon
im sheeping camilla-chan and alison-sama sowwy T_T

tomorrow i vote rondo regardless of ur flip probably if that makes it better? T_T

just...vote rondo today if you're gonna vote there tomorrow regardless

Kinda weird sentiment tbh

With Prince J MIA we can at least hope he'll either show up tomorrow or get replaced

We can hope

How we feeling with Rondo/falcon wagons? I feel pretty good that at least one of these is wolf

I'm here now

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