The Syndicate

also Alison came in, threw shade on people I think are townier and townread somebody I don't and then dipped

what part of that makes it so that I simply must townread her

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:18 pm
Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:17 pmdo tell
First you have to promise to townread me for having such a crazy tinfoil theory.

given last game

no deal

also I sympathize with Creature's thoughts about the gamestate and therefore it's more likely imo we're on the same team

also it can't both be a teammate interaction AND too much info - he's either exactly scum or exactly town, there is no in-between

do tell

personally not sure I really see the point behind either of the ones he gave out

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:52 pm
Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:50 pm Now @Fext, I reckon you talk alot, but I ain't quite sure what you're thinkin.

Which rascals are scum and what's your thoughts on my exchange with creature?
bruh
Yessir? How may I help you?

bruh

anyways how do we feel about mac literally being the reason the game started early then doing like one pop-in to throw around some weak townreads

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:50 pm Now @Fext, I reckon you talk alot, but I ain't quite sure what you're thinkin.

Which rascals are scum and what's your thoughts on my exchange with creature?

bruh

if the rest of y'all wanna fight me on LC that's fine but I'd imagine somebody under pressure to perform from just having won a scum game that surprised everyone would probably feel a bit more... crafted? specific? in their posting

NAA made me

and after last game I am hesitant to give you too much cred sorry not sorry (although do feel free to elaborate on what makes you obvtown, by all means :P)

if I had to gth reads rn it'd look something like these two groups, townier one on top

NotAnAxehole
Creature
falcon45ca
Lime Coke

DrWilgy
MacDougall
Seanzie
Alison

although frankly I'm not confident I could put all of those into words I am open to being asked for what elaboration I can provide on a given player

also if I wrote this list again in an hour it could probably look completely different since I really am trying to build reads out of scraps

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:06 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:02 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:28 pm Is Fext playing the newbcard this game?
Fext didn't bring up his level of experience, I did. so... what?
At first I thought Fext was new to forum mafia but then he struck as knowing many mafia terms to be new.

I mean in terms of standard stuff I've played the game irl a few times and I've played a lot of Town of Salem

but in terms of forum games it's one on Zelda Dungeon, one on Giant in the Playground, and one on Mafia Cafe

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:28 pm Is Fext playing the newbcard this game?

It is factually my fourth game of forum mafia ever

That being said I'd argue I'm not playing dumb because of it, nor asking for any special treatment

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:15 pm
Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:13 pmily2 naa
This is certainly a non-standard reaction.

ily2 naa

The MafC game I subbed into under extenuating circumstances and so there was clearly no way you had actually compared it to this game 1:1

and yeah that's correct

oh wait the one on the zelda forum

putting that ploy aside

if it helps you any NAA I am in fact town

no wait it clearly is and I'm dumb for thinking you didn't think it was bs aren't I

yeah what

that feels like BS lmao

given LC is a leading wagon I do have to ask

in poking around I saw he just won a game as mafia where people were like really shocked by his performance

how much does that factor into all of your guys' perceptions of him in this game

will do

can confirm

actually no reading his post he specifically notes "misclearing someone" so lol

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:28 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:31 am Instincts telling me Falcon and Creature are mafia but that feels too easy. Have to be misclearing someone.
I hadn't even posted yet

By instinct, do you mean random number generator?

presumably he's referring to either finding everyone else specifically towny or, more likely in my opinion, finding your lack of presence scummy

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:51 am
Fext wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:59 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:55 pm
Fext wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:52 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:34 pm @NotAnAxehole can you come say why you're voting Fext?
I was voting Mac before Fext posted if that helps.
can confirm

was wondering if you'd say this

would have found it really towny if you did not but I don't necessarily think it's not towny to have said it (since it is, in fact, what happened)
Now tell me partner, what would've you thought had our ol'pal NAA didn't say nothin?
well it wasn't that he wouldn't say anything

it was a matter of what he chose to say

ceding to a defense of fact is easy for anybody to do

had he instead gone on the offense and explained only why he voted me with no mention of his prior vote I would have to believe that kind of motivation to push at the expense of a perfectly valid factual defense would come from town
This is incoherent bullshit. Scum players tend to at least try to justify their actions when pressed about them. If NAA naked votes you as scum he probably has an explanation in mind for it. It is absurd to say that giving this explanation without mentioning an earlier vote is somehow out of his scum range.

It's a matter of how people think, really

If you're gathering early votes as mafia in a game with no PRs in particular I'm sure the very last thing you want is to avoid giving people a fact that may help to lower their suspicion of you. Ergo, I would have found NAA not doing that to have been quite towny.

Basically, it's not a matter of me thinking he'd not have an explanation for why he voted me, but instead just the fact that if he chose to essentially redirect pressure on himself into positive force elsewhere without including a semi-relevant fact in his defense that doesn't actually do anything to help determine anyone's alignment, it would be indicative to me of a focus on solving over self-defense at a time when that would conventionally be completely unnecessary to go out of your way to project.

Considering he did not, and so I have not made any definitive statements on his alignment, I'm confused what you're all up in arms about - even if you disagree with my logic there, I'm not using it to make any actual reads in this game at the moment lol

also wtf is up with the "aubergine" after every vote

I don't like it so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

are there like

vote tags

or are y'all just coloring your text or what

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:55 pm
Fext wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:52 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:34 pm @NotAnAxehole can you come say why you're voting Fext?
I was voting Mac before Fext posted if that helps.
can confirm

was wondering if you'd say this

would have found it really towny if you did not but I don't necessarily think it's not towny to have said it (since it is, in fact, what happened)
Now tell me partner, what would've you thought had our ol'pal NAA didn't say nothin?

well it wasn't that he wouldn't say anything

it was a matter of what he chose to say

ceding to a defense of fact is easy for anybody to do

had he instead gone on the offense and explained only why he voted me with no mention of his prior vote I would have to believe that kind of motivation to push at the expense of a perfectly valid factual defense would come from town

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:34 pm @NotAnAxehole can you come say why you're voting Fext?
I was voting Mac before Fext posted if that helps.

can confirm

was wondering if you'd say this

would have found it really towny if you did not but I don't necessarily think it's not towny to have said it (since it is, in fact, what happened)

is that like something he's only done as scum

also I don't know how you people manage all of this

last game there was a player who basically didn't talk but people who knew her were somehow able to figure out she was town anyways and I still literally have no idea how

why is that specifically not towny

that's just everyone who's posted

can you prove that

Fext wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:56 pm I have had, shall we say, mixed results on that front

ebwop

we have had, shall I say, mixed results on that front

Fext wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:01 pm anyways given there was some stuff in the signup thread about scum being way stronger than town in this setup I was hoping for a mafia rand but alas

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:46 pm NAA hasn't posted yet, but is voting Fext. I don't know what to do with this information, but I figured it should be noted for posterity.

don't worry I have in fact noted that

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:47 pm @Fext have you randed mafia yet?

haven't played since our last game, so no

anyways voting seanzie

anyways given there was some stuff in the signup thread about scum being way stronger than town in this setup I was hoping for a mafia rand but alas

y'know when I joined a game where nobody had said anything in the signups thread since December and it had been open almost a month I really thought I'd have at least a week or two

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