The Syndicate

Good game to all <3

Oh. It's making sense.

I think it's good.

1 min and I'll get back to work. I guess this is it.

Game became easier when many people died

Hmm. I don't understand their strategy at all. Why would mafia and mafia hit each other at this point.

Ah the rules, but

"There will only be one of the above that’s a lie."

Me - Town
Jack - Town
Marmot - Town
MM - Scum lean
SOA - Confirmed Evil
NAA - Neutral

We can also not lynch today and SOA's flip will confirm 2 town in the process.
Let's test that scenario.
1 mafia, 3 town, 1 neutral left.
1 mafia kills town -> next day

1 mafia, 2 town, 1 neutral left.
I think we still have odds of winning here. Provided who will be poisoned and killed at night... A mafia getting poisoned, town dying.
It's a tight game. Oh boy.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:38 am Or rather, If your claim is true, Jack has to be town, and SoA has to be scum, which would mean that MM is the only option for other scum.

That works out I think. The weird thing is, the only thing that SoA has done today is pop in and incriminate MM, so their potential for being teammates is a little wonky.

Oracle can't claim/confirm that there is a Doctor. It is impossible.
Where did he incriminate MM again? I can't see it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:31 am Collecting these posts for ease of access. These are Paopan's lie-detected statements.



Night 1 - False

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:37 pm I'm VT, I expect you all to let me carry you this game, always vote with me, never vote anyone other that who I'm voting and we will win this.

Night 2 - True

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:08 am I am town!



Late to the party I see

Night 3 - True

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:43 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:34 pm Btw there's a 0% chance I get yeeted today so you might as well not bother.

Why is that?

Because I'm the doctor.

Random doctor, to be specific. I'm assuming I've either accidentally stopped a kill (possibly twice) or there's no sker and the wolves are making doc dodge kills.

Either scenario confirms me town.

Night 4 - False

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:30 am Seein' as I might die here, figure I'll just claim. My role ain't that great, but I'm a town oracle. I get information about the setup each night.

That summs it up. You did it very fast.
I just view things via discord.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:25 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am Oh. Wait. I finally get it.

I realized that MM was kinda "confirmed town" when he rides on Michelle's investigative result.
They may have a consigliere and wanted to kill Sig because he's a roleblocker.

What does consig do again?

A player can know the role of someone. Kinda Mafia Investigative. I'm just assuming here cos I'm really not that familiar with the game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:21 am What makes more sense?
Mafia not attacking, or mafia hitting a healed person?

Assuming the doctor can't self-target, that means Jack had a 20% chance to protect whoever the mafia killed.

Honestly, I'm a little surprised they wouldn't just kill Jack.

I'm also baffled with this. Is there a mechanical reason why won't they?
Ah this is kinda annoying when the roles available aren't available in the setup. I just can't deduce anything.

Oh. Poisoner doesn't win with town? Neutral evil eh.

Hmmm in a scenario SoA died today. If we lynch MM Mafia.
It's 3v1 tomorrow.

If we don't lynch anyone.
It's 3v1v1 tonight.
Mafia kills 1
It's 2v1v1 and we lose.

So it's MYLO that we lynch scum, MM.
I guess we are kinda lucky that a Mafia was poisoned today.

Oh. Wait. I finally get it.

I realized that MM was kinda "confirmed town" when he rides on Michelle's investigative result.
They may have a consigliere and wanted to kill Sig because he's a roleblocker.

What makes more sense?
Mafia not attacking, or mafia hitting a healed person?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:14 am Oh and also, how are you certain there's a 3P? Do you think that NAA is the 3P?

That's kinda where I'm at too, but we need to kill a wolf today regardless.

How can you explain how Michelle died?
If he's so ballsy to claim it as wolf. Then he's good IMO.
Is not really that of a priority since neutral sides with us.

He/she also poisoned a mafia.
So in reality, there is only one mafia left for tonight (or none if we lynch him today).

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am Fair, but also ew. I've worked a 20hour day in the past, will never do it again unless it's an emergency.

It's an emergency thingy so yeah.. I really wanted to die last night (this game, not IRL).
But I'm on the 60-80 hours per week bracket.

I'm tired to navigate but it's #978 and is a lie.

Yeah sure, I can chat a little. I'm a lil tired. All I have been doing is excel excel excel.

Are you town Marmot? I'm currently 50-50 bt. you and MM

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am 21 hour work shift??? Wtf? That's insane!

9am - 6pm
then 6pm to 5am...

It's only temporary becos of the deadlines.
Don't want to be specific. But it has something to do with the client's annual budget (ISP) for the next year.
So workload is huge at this month.

I'm sure that Jack is town, MM is 50-50 because of his sig. You making game confusing you know?? Marmot is suspicious.

Mafia are SoA/Marmot and SoA/MM.

I suggest we lynch between Marmot or MM. Otherwise, don't lynch at all.

So cool that no one died today. I was expecting to die while on a 21h work shift.
Anyway, SOA, Marmot, MM, Jack, Me, and NAA. There are 6 people remaining
and it is 3 town, 2 mafia, and 1 neutral correct?
SoA, liar will die today due to poison.
So there are going to be 4-5 players left tonight.

No oracle died.

This is Oracle's role based on the internet.

They may select a target with it nightly, and will reveal the role of the most recent target upon the Oracle's death. Because their main action occurs on death

Who is claiming oracle?

What does oracle do?

i asked this but mods won't give me role list. So how will i know what Oracle is?

sorry im at a meeting rn.

i am working overtime on sat-sun for this.

in any case. i checked #1757 and it gave me true result.

anyway, i wasn't on eod day 3; as usual on eod1,2 (and probably wont be eod4 due to timezone) sorry. I told everyone before i started the ruri train. if ruri is scum, marmot is also scum. i highly believe they are same alignment whether town or scum. I'm confirmed lie detect mafia can kill me tonight i will just view the game via discord thanks.

mm also found sig.

So its the ninja guy, ruri, sig, and (marmot???)

also, i cant find anything to action Michelle. she's treading this game carefully, not giving any slips for me to check. be wary of this slot

also Michelle, will u confirm I'm town already?

Seems u are very infatuated with me. Let's thunderdome LP

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:55 am I think I'm going to vote Paopan. I just can't overlook how bad those checks are and the fact that Scotty claimed Paopan's N1 results which were objectively on a really weird target.
And N2 Paopan didn't target the Oracle claim which we were discussing for him to do so.
I don't see how this cannot be Mafia. Even if he is claiming to be newbie, he claimed this is his 5th game and these are huge mistakes I don't see someone with that experience really making.

This is my first vanilla game.

I played FM in the past but they are custom themed. Like, Wizards and Archers. Stuff like that. And evils are Darkness and shits

I think Ruri and Marmot are same alignment. That's why I want a Ruri lynch. I'm fine also with Marmot cos he's most like have the same alignment as Ruri. Based on my reads.
Also, I think Sig is also a good kill cos I don't him very much linked onto this game. I feel Sig as someone who is very disconnected. Hence, I think he's a low-key scum.
I kinda suspect Michelle also. I think he's too "clean" to be a townie. Not a priority lynch but be wary of this slot if she's alive in the later stages of the game.

In any case. I will re-read tonight and I hope to give good info by tomorrow. I also want MM and Michelle to check me tonight to confirm my slot, and doctor on me also. So tomorrow. I can be 100% lock town and the info I will give is true, okay?

Despite my failures. I want to blame the interface cos I can't see who died and who is still alive, yet I want to say that there are some ignorance on my part.

On the other hand, cop can check and confirm.

Like I said. Is okay for me to get lynched.

Considering I'm new. I think it's well balanced? I think... host likes me.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:14 am So what I mean is like are you just a "Town Lie Detector" or do you have some other word between Town and Lie Detector?

No words in between

How did you come by TS? I thought you were Gavial's friend for some reason.
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Not Gavial's friend. But I am the son of some British guy named SuperJack.
If that's info you are seeking

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:12 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:08 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:04 am There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

Very few people town read Michelle, those who did are waning on her because her tunnel makes no sense, and there is 0 evolution in her thoughts.

Want to start train on Michelle?
If she flipped mafia we are basically confirmed. Okay?
I am okay with Ruri's flip too. I think she's connected to Marmot.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:08 am Paopan do you have any restrictions on your role like a modifier?

Honestly, I don't even know what modifier means...
Other games I played in the past used "custom-themed roles/setups".
This is the first game I play in a "standard" or "vanilla" game or whatever this is called.
My result may be the truth or not.
And host said that there were goin to be times that it cannot verify the information of the said post.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:04 am There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:03 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:59 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:57 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:54 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:53 am I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I'll do you one better, I am doing everything I can to help town win by ensuring they don't kill me.

Okay. You are neutral-neutral then.

On the other hand... This might seem invalid to check cos you can be a Mafia wanting town to win.
I change my mind, I don't agree with this.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:59 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:57 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:54 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:53 am I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I'll do you one better, I am doing everything I can to help town win by ensuring they don't kill me.

Okay. You are neutral-neutral then.

What is importance is his credibility.

I am not sure how to count and know all roles cos they don't give me (the mods) a list.

But from what I know as of now. There are 3 mafia (1 is dead) and 3 neutral slot (1 is SK and/or Arsonist, others are just neutrals to confuse town) and rest are town.

Based on the game I have played. That's how it has always have been.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:54 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:53 am I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

I'm okay on taking today's lynch as long as we can solve who's who.

I am not familiar with forums.

I'm sorry, all.

Err. Omg..

Okay. I deserved to be lynched today.

He dead? What

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:48 pm how did you use your lie detect?

#524

With the Scotty flip... is very surprising. He's like, one of my town lean on day 1.

I really need to re-assess my judgment on everyone around here.

I knew day 1 is going to be a fluff. In any case, if Falcon gives info. It's sure to be true.

Would be best to wait for the cops for their result. That would give us ideas who's who. Day 3 is going to be lit

Well. The good news is... Falcon is town
There's that. Any info coming from him is to be true.

Uhh. Okay. So I'm a town Lie Detect

I am not familiar with Wiggly's role that can do that. I'm only thinking of amnesiac which is not possible gather a result in night 1.

Can someone give me a role list? I'm blind out here. In any case. I think I caught NAA.

I see. Only a flip can answer this.
I'm still not letting go of NAA tho

I see. Only a flip can answer this.
I'm still not letting go of NAA tho

There will be at least 1 Role that’s pointless.

So to catch it up. A doctor caught Scotty? What? Doctor claim is a lie too?

I'll read first. Just a min.
To add context.
NAA was not VT.
Feedback confirmed it was a lie.

Err... Hi everyone.
NAA is lying. I think he's evil