The Syndicate

No I'm going to refrain from talkin to you further. You just make my blood boil with how you seemingly care more about being contrarian than anything.
LIke words cannot describe how you sound right now. It seems like you would quite literally ignore a red check from me even if I flip Town.

Let it be clear that was a hypothetical.
I obviously didn't. I don't even get results ountil night even if I did track NAA.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:54 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

I'm not IC, and mafia aren't leaving me alone

through the power of linear time I am able to determine that at least half of my hypothetical wolf team is town

I know this because they died and flipped town, therefore I can deduce that some of my scum reads are not accurate

As if you ever planned on listening to anything I said.
I could say tomorrow "actually I tracked NAA and he visited HK and Marmot N2" and you would still ignore it if I got lynched that day and flipped Town.

You are jus tmaking up excuses as to why the Mafia would leave you alive.
THEY SHOULD NOT LEAVE YOU ALIVE IF YOU ARE TOWN SYN.
NEVER!

Like if you were barely posting to get by like Wilgy I can see that.
But you have been active.
You ahve tried to look like you are attempting to game solve.
That is stuff that gets you killed and you think Mafia has no reason to kill you?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

you said at the start of d2 that I was "objectively" the towniest person with nobody scum-reading me, which everyone immediately disproved and was a large reason why you even had a wagon on d2

you did not say I was YOUR top town read at any point, in fact, your d1 read was that HK and I were t/w and you were thinking it was me who was the wolf of the pair

Time has proven that true even if that was a half joke.
Mafia do make a lot of effort to make a presence D1 and you certainly did that then proceeded to scumside all of D2.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:33 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:00 pm dunia and lp aren't aligned you nincompoops

This post is an indication they had TMI Duyna would be mislynched despite them voting Duyna.

he was arguing that you were town

Syn was voting me most of D2. Why the fuck would they do that?
If so that is stupid.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:00 pm dunia and lp aren't aligned you nincompoops

This post is an indication they had TMI Duyna would be mislynched despite them voting Duyna.

I 100% believe Syn entered D2 knowing the Mafia night kill and going to push to mislynch Scotty and blame it on Dunya.
It's really just too convenient that Mac scum read Scotty, died N1, and Syn came out the bat ready to off Scotty and Dunya.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:08 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:05 pm i will kill anyone syn tells me to kill.

are you sure? because scotty flipping wolf would look very bad for you

I also would like to point out that I called out Syn for this start of day 2.
This oozes the mentality that Syn was setting up to mislynch Duyna even during N1.

NAA Syn guarentees minimum 1 Mafia they mindmelded the whole EoD and it was a scummy menuvre from both.

Honestly Dya/NAA are actually interchangeable for prio kill.
Both are very likely Mafia.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:16 am LP I want you to assume that TSP is town right now. Let's say that he reveals as an inno child somehow

who are the wolves then

NAA > Dya > Syn > Dolby

Sig might just be revealed as Mafia so replace Dolby if that occurs.
I'm also heaving a very hard time reading Wilgy as anything but unreadable.

So really that list.
I don't think Jack is Mafia, he doesn't come across as someone faking it.
Scotty could potentialyl be Mafia, but not with Syn. I felt their D1 was TvW and Syn looks very bad for their treatment of Dunya all of D2.
Petit looked bad until end of D2 and started looking a lot better, so likely Town.
Marmot and Urist I think are always likely to be Town.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:14 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:13 am I mean what do you guys think makes him scummy?

half of his posts are shitposts and the other half are meh

Do you have a thought on NAA then?
NAA hasn't made a single non-meme post to my knowledge.
It's either memes or just actual spam.

I mean what do you guys think makes him scummy?

OK admittedly I haven't read Urist's ISO, mostly since the ISOs are not posted anywhere so finding it is difficut.
But when he has been posting I haven't noticed anything that pinged me.

I also wasn't confident people would kill Sig.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:10 am YOU COULD HAVE JUST KILLED SIG WITH LESS WORK

You know, I hate that you're right and I didn't actually really consider the option of just going Lv2 Warrior.
TBH I just wanted to be a Lv4 Druid.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:06 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:05 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:03 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am lp i need to you to find me town like in the next 10 minutes

I mean Urist and Marmot seems very townie.
Scotty is also pretty strongtownlean.

why is urist a top TR for you?

I mena technically Marmot > Urist.
But Urist is a close second. he at least can recognize TSP is Mafia.

Are there litearlly any other reasons

Well he hasn't done anything overtly scummy and agrees with my top scum read being scum.
Plus a lot of people are doing very scummy things this game so he is by default removed from PoE entirely.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:07 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:06 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:05 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:51 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am god that lp quote unquote slip is really bad but real slips don't happen

LP claiming tracking sig was bad

No its really great.
Mafia would 100% use Sig to preform the kill.
So Mafia is forced to kill me tonight or risk the fact I'll confirm Sig's alignment tonight.
It's even worse for Mafia if Sig is Mafia since it confirms Sig is Mafiaand confirms me.

I swear to God you cannot make posts like this this is so wolfy why did dunya think you were town

I actually think this is the towniest thing LP posted today

is it because it makes no sense cause that's what I've been saying

I fail to see what you consider "Making sense" because that makes perfectly logical sense ot me.
To be fair I was also under to impression that Sig!Town wouldn't visit so that's my bad for not reading htat.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:06 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:05 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:51 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am god that lp quote unquote slip is really bad but real slips don't happen

LP claiming tracking sig was bad

No its really great.
Mafia would 100% use Sig to preform the kill.
So Mafia is forced to kill me tonight or risk the fact I'll confirm Sig's alignment tonight.
It's even worse for Mafia if Sig is Mafia since it confirms Sig is Mafiaand confirms me.

I swear to God you cannot make posts like this this is so wolfy why did dunya think you were town

?
Are you OK? Did you hit your head?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:05 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:03 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am lp i need to you to find me town like in the next 10 minutes

I mean Urist and Marmot seems very townie.
Scotty is also pretty strongtownlean.

why is urist a top TR for you?

I mena technically Marmot > Urist.
But Urist is a close second. he at least can recognize TSP is Mafia.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:51 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am god that lp quote unquote slip is really bad but real slips don't happen

LP claiming tracking sig was bad

No its really great.
Mafia would 100% use Sig to preform the kill.
So Mafia is forced to kill me tonight or risk the fact I'll confirm Sig's alignment tonight.
It's even worse for Mafia if Sig is Mafia since it confirms Sig is Mafiaand confirms me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am lp i need to you to find me town like in the next 10 minutes

I mean Urist and Marmot seems very townie.
Scotty is also pretty strongtownlean.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:45 am there's a bayes argument for killing lp here

Bayes? That's the first I've ever heard that term.

There's probably a few different ways you could break the game from a Mafia PoV.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:41 am anyways if LP is correct we have to kill a wolf today and so I would therefore recommend not chopping me

I mean that was my first thought in this game and somehting I would have 100% pushed Mafia to do.
4 Lv1 Warrior spam is OP AF.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:37 am LP do you still believe that I recanted a sus on TSP and that me voting you and Dunya was "uncharacteristic" of my D2 activity

I literally have not played with you to my knowledge.
So I have no idea what your "town meta" is.

Second I won't just believe you that pushing Duyna and TSP is a thing only Town you would do with no evidence.

Third you recat your scum read on TSP and say that saving him is a good idea.
That is very much something a Mafia!anyone would do ot save their buddy TSP.
just don't lynch him and heal him with a 95% accuracy.

Honestly Jack's idea that Mafia poisoned their own member so they wont be lynched and be healed actually isn't a horrible idea in theory.
I still think it was a Town posion though and TSP is always flippng Mafia.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:33 am [VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Thanks for confirming my suspicion you're Mafia with him.
Still rpetty sure Syn is too.
Not sure between Petit, Sig, and NAA.

Frankly TSP might not be a bad lynch just to prevent him from being healed.

PLus you were a few seconds from being lynched. Mafia killing you is a stupid ass move they would never do.

That would be the safer place to bet on.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:22 am given the number of poisons I would unironically like to assert that it is almost guaranteed that I have been poisoned by the mafia (as well as, plausibly, the town) and I am therefore clear

I'd frankly assume Mafia is 4 Level 1 Warriors and tonight they will get 5 kills.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:53 am read #announcements. nanook explicitly says what happens to zero posters and their actions

Ok you beat my reading comprehension skills.
I didn’t think to check the hub.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:50 am damn I guess I was right that dunia and lp aren't aligned

Says the person who just slipped mafia by saying they asked If Syns action was randed as town.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:42 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:41 am That’s not mentioned in the OP.
So am I supposed to believe you both independently asked the mod a random question about if Sin was Town would his action be randed?
Because that sounds like you guys had someone asked and shared the knowledge in a Mafia chat

where did you get the info that his actions would be proxied if he was mafia?

That’s literally the standard rule of Mafia lol

That’s not mentioned in the OP.
So am I supposed to believe you both independently asked the mod a random question about if Sin was Town would his action be randed?
Because that sounds like you guys had someone asked and shared the knowledge in a Mafia chat

I thought your N0 CP was ranged not every action.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:31 am an action is randed every night if he is town

Where the fuck?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:28 am so you're thinking you'll catch w!sig visiting HK and we will chop a zero-posting slot d4

It’s a good shot. It he doesn’t visit he is confirmed town and if he did visit anyone he is obviously mafia who has his action submitted for him.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:15 am that is relevant how? he is inevitably going to get shot by the activity ability either way

No one has shot him.
Clearly no one cares if he is Mafia or Town

In other words if he is mafia Mafia are probably using him to do the killing

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:12 ampls explain

Mafia may be used to kill with him.

Successfully tracked Sig last night.
HK no N1 visits.

If she is wolf I commit self die