The Syndicate

Also does anyone here know who Sabie let into their base?

Really the only reason I put Nanook over NAA is the fact that NAA is so blatant in his anti-townness and Nanook tries to be shy about it.

Nanook defended Sabie day 1 and hasn't done much else.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:16 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:15 am And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?
who are your scum?

Currently I don't know. No one really stands out as extremely obvious.
Nanook I'm putting at about 99% guarenteed Mafia.
Jack might be just because of the RB really, and the last one is between Gullio, Martin, Mac, NAA, or Dolby.

Honestly, I don't feel like Gav is Mafia.
He's actually way to wolfy to ever be wolf.

And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?

I mean Pyro would RNG his shot to anyone, could be Mafia.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:14 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:13 am Low key, what if we like just let Gav shoot and Pyro him?
No we lose a powerful role.

OR, we lost a Mafia.

Low key, what if we like just let Gav shoot and Pyro him?

It's worth noting TSP also claimed before Marmot even said they got a red check on anyone.

Actually no, Soldier makes the Mafia factional kill unstoppable by roleblocks, healing, immunity, and redirection.
So, there's no way Marmot used that on a Mafia last night.

Honestly Gav actually might have a point.
I don't like that Marmot chose to use the facilitate someone to be role block immune last night instead of watching someone.
But regardless of poor choices from Marmot, we definitely do not just lynch Marmot for assuming it's a bus. Maybe when all Medics have been dead for a long time and he's not getting attacked do we consider that.

So does sniper have to shoot if they aimed the previous night?
Because if so that would mean TSP did aim at Sabie unless they got blocked N2 otherwise TSP would have killed.

Alright with 2 minutes left who is NAA going to CFD to and who is going to follow for no reason whatsoever and Sabie survives again because of it?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:59 pm @LinearPoint when we're in final 3 together, I'm literally going to use that exact argument. And you'll point to this conversation, and I promise it won't matter.

Yeah, unfortunately. I just have to hope the 3rd person is super obviously the last Mafia.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:56 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm Why mafia split their votes will always be beyond my comprehension. Just vote together, kill town, win game.
Fucking true though. Bussing I will never understand. You buy yourself like maybe 2-3 days of free pass not getting sused, but you still get sused end game because WTF is an IC still alive.
LP is IC

If I live to final 3 and Town looses lynching me I am blaming you for this curse.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm Why mafia split their votes will always be beyond my comprehension. Just vote together, kill town, win game.

Fucking true though. Bussing I will never understand. You buy yourself like maybe 2-3 days of free pass not getting sused, but you still get sused end game because WTF is an IC still alive.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm All this mechanical talk (my page 32) makes me wanna actually read the setup lol
hi beetlejuice

Don't say beetlejuice, it'll trigger him.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:41 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm It's literally the only role I've read... And that includes my own.
lol ok snipe
I didn't claim

Well you did claim, but I mean no one noticed it so it doesn't count right?

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:19 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:18 pm TSP said the were viging Sabie N2 so that isn't sus they are saying Sabie is fine to let live.
also them claiming I don't think is a common maf move since it locks them out of their N2 shot

Honestly I'd only see if happening if Mafia has a pyro to redirect the kill with.
Then maybe they can get away with "confirming" TSP as Town that way.

TSP said the were viging Sabie N2 so that isn't sus they are saying Sabie is fine to let live.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:09 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm ok so why is red pyro outed mafia and why is wilgy only ever mafia with tsp?
Well for TSP to be Mafia fishing for Red Pyro, that means Blue Pyro has to be Mafia.
If Blue Pyro is Mafia, then it has to be Wiggly who already claimed Pyro.
TSP wouldn't need to fish for Red Pyro if he already knew it was Wiggly.
So logically, TSP only fishes for Red Pyro knowing Blue Pyro is Mafia and Blue Pyro is already known to him which is Wiggly who has to be Blue Pyro.
ok and is wilgy like green checked or anything? cuz this seems plausible to me.

No he isn't.

So like TSP is only even rolefishing Mafia here is and only if Wiggly is a Mafia Blue Pyro.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm ok so why is red pyro outed mafia and why is wilgy only ever mafia with tsp?

Well for TSP to be Mafia fishing for Red Pyro, that means Blue Pyro has to be Mafia.
If Blue Pyro is Mafia, then it has to be Wiggly who already claimed Pyro.
TSP wouldn't need to fish for Red Pyro if he already knew it was Wiggly.
So logically, TSP only fishes for Red Pyro knowing Blue Pyro is Mafia and Blue Pyro is already known to him which is Wiggly who has to be Blue Pyro.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim
Wouldn't that imply that he knows Wiggly is Blue Pyro and Blue Pyro is Mafia with him though?
okay so I have no idea what a pyro is or why you mentioned wilgy here

So you don't think TSP and Wiggly are a Mafia team?
If they aren't a team TSP can't be rolefishing scum.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm Is it time to CFD?

No it's time for you to stop.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim

Wouldn't that imply that he knows Wiggly is Blue Pyro and Blue Pyro is Mafia with him though?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:54 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:52 pm I mean honestly Sniper is just super destructive even if it is Town.
They are pretty much guaranteed to kill Town.

Unless of course it’s given to a god tier mafia player that’s town aligned.
OK, but what if they are NAA level and only kill Town.
What if there someone like Lime Coke, Dolby or Me?

I have trust issues.
Unless I roll Vig, all Vig are bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing

Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:52 pm I mean honestly Sniper is just super destructive even if it is Town.
They are pretty much guaranteed to kill Town.

Unless of course it’s given to a god tier mafia player that’s town aligned.

OK, but what if they are NAA level and only kill Town.

I mean honestly Sniper is just super destructive even if it is Town.
They are pretty much guaranteed to kill Town.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:48 pm Who's going to be around at eod?

Hopefully not you.
I'd rather Sabie not live another day.

Yeah I think Gav is Sniper.

Honestly surprised Wiggly wasn't replaced for inactivity day 1 since he never posted.

TBH Wiggly is odd.
He's not going to contribute this game.
I think we basically wait until Mafia decides Pyro is too destructive to keep alive and kills him.

Yeah actually I guess sniper would be inactive to avoid being voted.

NAA I feel isn't Sniper even though I joked about it.
Wiggly I doubt isn't Pyro.
That leaves LC, me, Gav, and Falcon.
I know I'm not and LC could be sniper, but he's inactive so I dunno.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:30 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm yeah 2 hours remain.
Honestly. Yeah I'm debating on to vote Gav or Falcon.
I think one is a Sniper, but not sure which.
Why do you see Gav & I as possible snipers?

I'd think any sniper would be laying low so as not to attract votes

I was just thinking of people who were looking to avoid Heavyies on Sabie.

I think an order of massclaim is probably too slow.
We'd have to deal with timezones and it'd be a process.

I'll go with gav I guess. Falcon seems a bit less likely to be Mafia.

yeah 2 hours remain.
Honestly. Yeah I'm debating on to vote Gav or Falcon.
I think one is a Sniper, but not sure which.

They say plans never survive first contact.

Though I'm not sure it matters since we're just not doing the plan anyways.

Since we only have one outed engie, we also don't know if the Blue Pyro followed the plan either.

He's probably not going to get on to do that though.

Honestly I should have though of it earlier, but Gullio should have probably actually chekced Wiggly today to see if he is Pyro and which color.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:46 pm not about what's there, it's about what's not

Sorry I'm an oblivious slowpoke.
What?

Also the fact they never posted today pretty much means even if there was doubt about them being Mafia they just confirm it by avoiding spewing anything.

In terms of alignment yeah, but I don't think I saw Sabie soft any role.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:42 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:03 pm Signle vote wagons are useless and only hurt town.
Mafia Sniper needs 2 votes to be thrown off their aim.
Town Sniper needs 1.
Asking for single vote wagons is just saying to RB all Town vigilantes so only Mafia vigilantes can attack tonight.
Wait, what?

What do you mean what?
If Town sniper gets 1 vote, they can not shoot.
Mafia Sniper needs to get 2 votes before they can no longer shoot. If they get just 1 vote, they can still shoot.

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