The Syndicate

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:17 am Nice response

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:14 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:53 pm Girls girls girls, you're both pretty. The answer is probably just Kate / JD

this feels misogynistic even as a joke. like the "girls you're both pretty" comes off as just offensive

maybe its just me

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:13 pm Immediate observations on vote record patterns points to DOOM, Creature, and Kate.

ah shit... Missed a Dennis D1. Ignore that one. Lucy's 3p and Chihiro's resolved no matter.

If we look at EoD 2 and assume that neither of these wagons are pure:
Jackofhearts2005 5
Voters: DaughterOfOmega, Chihiro, Scrappy Doo, lucy, RondoDimBuckle
lucy 5
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, Jackofhearts2005, JDizz10

Yeeting Kate and DOOM make sense.

If we look at Mid D2:
dunya 4
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall
I don't see a world where Sig votes alongside Dennis early as teammates.

Ah shit... I missed a Dunya mid d2. I'll just need to recolor the entire list.

I digress.

Sig is clear, Kate is optimal, DOOM Creature and JDizz have no vote relevant reason to be town. Our PoE is Kate, DOOM, Creature and JDizz.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:32 pm So I have Kate, Rondo, Creature and Wilgy as town

is this bad?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:55 pm EVENT: Potent Potions

5 different-colored vials of liquid are sitting on the table in the foyer of the mansion: Orange, Green, Bubbling, Pink, and Black.. Any player can tag the host and announce in thread to drink a specific vial, with any effects announced at each 24 hour mark in the day. Only one player may drink each vial, and players may not drink more than one.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:04 pm Just realized Rondo can't be cleared anymore due to ventriloquist.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:39 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:36 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:34 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:30 pm We could just kill Lucy, she could have seen SVS's amazing 3p play from GoC and wanted to emulate it this game. Buuuut maybe that is just my paranoid brain

i died too early to see her op play because i was the most accurate towny

once dennis flips scum you won't tinfoil me thankfully

pretty much my idea of the game atm is dennis w into kate w into I dunno you if you're still alive/around. Because if you are town siding so hard wolves might just kill you

if dennis flips w and we kill kate next cycle i leave the game victorious and town doesn't have to worry about me at all

they can try but ur conf town so i think they'll let me self resolve

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:34 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:30 pm We could just kill Lucy, she could have seen SVS's amazing 3p play from GoC and wanted to emulate it this game. Buuuut maybe that is just my paranoid brain

i died too early to see her op play because i was the most accurate towny

once dennis flips scum you won't tinfoil me thankfully

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:28 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:25 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:24 pm Alright then I really don't care which of Dennis and Kate goes over. Preferably, both should be resolved.

There are still other players I need to sort. Neon should be one of them. Why are you all calling her town?

I have also decided you are my ride or die for town this game because I always misyeet you.

I literally wasted a parity cop check on you and Mac so that better be worth it.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:25 pm fun fact there's nothing that says flipping Dennis wolf means Kate is town.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:24 pm Alright then I really don't care which of Dennis and Kate goes over. Preferably, both should be resolved.

There are still other players I need to sort. Neon should be one of them. Why are you all calling her town?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:11 pm Technically I should be voting Kate because Rondo, who I know to be town, is voting Kate while the Dennis wagon is full of sketchy players and the claimed third party who I can't tell if it is townsiding or wolfsiding, but meh I kinda still prefer to vote Dennis. So I'm in a mad dilemma here.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:06 pm @DaughterOfOmega to confirm Kate gets a shot tonight if she votes lucy or does she just get some power

She already talked about it, read her posts.

I'm growing tired of you and I want to be able to play tomorrow so I have to stop responding.

Just like in goc, no.one listened to me then once I was dead everyone looked back, shit should have listened. You put up a great fight I'll give you that.

and all love to you outside the game!

Porpoise wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:39 pm and why are they cross voting themselves with a vote floating?

Why don't you read my ISO? (mostly LPP's, just memeing with this rn since it's close to 1 am, done a lot today, and porpoises being actually a great gif source)

I am not Fish (it's sig lolz)

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:20 pm Kate on dennis / dennis on kate, tells me little.

DaughterOfOmega/Creature - one of, conventional wisdom tells me daughter

One of Falcon/Myself/Fish/HK, leaning fish now after seeing they only post bloop

Sig/Wilgy/LPP/Neon - Probably one or two in here. Neon is my lean atm

I don't think the bloop is ai and we know it's LPP controlling it. We ended up at their location which, if I understand correctly, gave them two puppets to play with today, Fish and Porpoise.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:58 pm @RondoDimBuckle vote dennis or i stay in the game for an extra cycle ftr

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:57 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:57 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:41 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 am dennis wolf

Correct.

Dennis is no longer wolf

Correct

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:41 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 am dennis wolf

Correct.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:08 am Please kill me so I can go to DVC and laugh at town.

Anyways LPP still wolf. Hooray.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:14 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:36 am LPP wolf

Rondo, don't waste time with this. We can exchange when we both are itt at the same time. Or at least do a case that I can engage with. But posting these is just throwing since you aren't going to convince anybody this way. So you might want to enjoy your IC status by solving with us. I posted my towncore earlier, what do you think about it? (sig/hk/lucy/doom/creature/rondo fwiw. if you agree, help me parse kate/Neon/Dennis/Wilgy/falcon/JDizz)

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:08 am

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Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:24 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:13 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:03 pm neon i will be blunt because you have missed a lot of other nuance

1) one in kate/dennis is getting flipped today

2) i won't be chopped, all your vote is forcing me to do is use my 3 votes on someone who everyone else in the list forces me to vote

3) you are not helping the game progress by hard defending someone who will flip scum and by pushing third party

you pretty much aren't doing anything to advance the gamestate and i am forced to undermine you, which worked last cycle and has worked this cycle. vote me and get ignored and don't progress the game or vote off me and progess the game. you have the decision but i'm frustrated that you are continuing to scumside and do absolutely nothing this game neon

i don't know how to articulate myself the best here but i want you to stop whatever you're doing because it's not helping anyone and you're actively making gamestate worse

Dictator Lucy is a shit personality. Your play is unenjoyable when you insist you are God and nobody else is allowed to have a differing view of the game or they are throwing.

You don't want to play mafia you want to control and that's not a good strategy. You are not a leader and I won't be forced to play your game.

You aren't helping town you are killing townies and I don't care how many times you threaten me and insult my play. I was right on Sean. I was right on Jack.

Want to play Russian fucking roulette on if I am right on Kate?

why do you call me a dictator or a god when i'm demonstrably neither?

i am being heavily involved with this game and from my point of view you are not moving the game forward, which forces me to see you in this perspective because it is my perspective

i am not a leader and i am not asking for an unreasonable amount of control, kate and dennis have been suspected by most of the playerlist after i suspected them at sod which means i am not scumsiding and i am townsiding and town generally agrees with me and disagrees with you, not me but town

why do i care about your sean/jack reads? jack was obviously town at eod but i was asleep

i have not insulted your play

you are wrong on kate

You desire to control the thread and its movement you do not desire to lead the thread and its narrative. That is a dictator lucy. You silence anyone who speaks against your narrative. That is a dictator lucy. You don't try to work with those who have differences in opinion you seek to force their dissent down without thought or engagement. That is a dictator.

You insist that you are better than other town in thread that your reads are infallible and that you and Mac having similar view points means you can't possibly be wrong even in the face of you and Mac demonstrably being wrong. That is a God. Hell you basically asked me if I was going to blindly follow you because you were right in other games. I've been right in other games too why should I blindly follow anyone being right doesn't mean you will always be right and it doesn't mean others viewpoints matter less.

I think your statement that Dennis and Kate have been suspected by most of the player list is demonstrably false. I think some people agree on one others agree on the other and there is no consensus. I also think this is a shit view point. MOST of the player list viewed Jack as scum. How'd that turn out for you. Most of the player list can be wrong. Most of the player list can kill a town. Most of the player list can include the wolfs looking to kill a town. Most of the player list doesn't mean you are town siding. You keep killing town you aren't town siding. You refuse to reevaluate you aren't town siding.

Why do you care? Because I was fucking right. You've insisted all fucking game that I'm hurting town but you won't listen and I've been FUCKING right. You've insulted my play. You've said my reads matter less. You've said I'm incapable of mechanical understanding of the game of mafia. You've said I'm hurting town. And I've been right.

You know what happens if town listens to me and if people stop acting like I'm a shit fucking townie. There's two town still alive who were demonstrably solving for town.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:29 pm Anyways moved my vote cause I actually do think Dennis is probably maybe scum.

Kate isn't though. I have mech reason for this thought. It's not definitive but it does exist and I will not out it unless Kate outs info because Kate outing will prove or disprove my mech.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:34 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:24 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:13 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:03 pm neon i will be blunt because you have missed a lot of other nuance

1) one in kate/dennis is getting flipped today

2) i won't be chopped, all your vote is forcing me to do is use my 3 votes on someone who everyone else in the list forces me to vote

3) you are not helping the game progress by hard defending someone who will flip scum and by pushing third party

you pretty much aren't doing anything to advance the gamestate and i am forced to undermine you, which worked last cycle and has worked this cycle. vote me and get ignored and don't progress the game or vote off me and progess the game. you have the decision but i'm frustrated that you are continuing to scumside and do absolutely nothing this game neon

i don't know how to articulate myself the best here but i want you to stop whatever you're doing because it's not helping anyone and you're actively making gamestate worse

Dictator Lucy is a shit personality. Your play is unenjoyable when you insist you are God and nobody else is allowed to have a differing view of the game or they are throwing.

You don't want to play mafia you want to control and that's not a good strategy. You are not a leader and I won't be forced to play your game.

You aren't helping town you are killing townies and I don't care how many times you threaten me and insult my play. I was right on Sean. I was right on Jack.

Want to play Russian fucking roulette on if I am right on Kate?

why do you call me a dictator or a god when i'm demonstrably neither?

i am being heavily involved with this game and from my point of view you are not moving the game forward, which forces me to see you in this perspective because it is my perspective

i am not a leader and i am not asking for an unreasonable amount of control, kate and dennis have been suspected by most of the playerlist after i suspected them at sod which means i am not scumsiding and i am townsiding and town generally agrees with me and disagrees with you, not me but town

why do i care about your sean/jack reads? jack was obviously town at eod but i was asleep

i have not insulted your play

you are wrong on kate

You desire to control the thread and its movement you do not desire to lead the thread and its narrative. That is a dictator lucy. You silence anyone who speaks against your narrative. That is a dictator lucy. You don't try to work with those who have differences in opinion you seek to force their dissent down without thought or engagement. That is a dictator.

You insist that you are better than other town in thread that your reads are infallible and that you and Mac having similar view points means you can't possibly be wrong even in the face of you and Mac demonstrably being wrong. That is a God. Hell you basically asked me if I was going to blindly follow you because you were right in other games. I've been right in other games too why should I blindly follow anyone being right doesn't mean you will always be right and it doesn't mean others viewpoints matter less.

I think your statement that Dennis and Kate have been suspected by most of the player list is demonstrably false. I think some people agree on one others agree on the other and there is no consensus. I also think this is a shit view point. MOST of the player list viewed Jack as scum. How'd that turn out for you. Most of the player list can be wrong. Most of the player list can kill a town. Most of the player list can include the wolfs looking to kill a town. Most of the player list doesn't mean you are town siding. You keep killing town you aren't town siding. You refuse to reevaluate you aren't town siding.

Why do you care? Because I was fucking right. You've insisted all fucking game that I'm hurting town but you won't listen and I've been FUCKING right. You've insulted my play. You've said my reads matter less. You've said I'm incapable of mechanical understanding of the game of mafia. You've said I'm hurting town. And I've been right.

You know what happens if town listens to me and if people stop acting like I'm a shit fucking townie. There's two town still alive who were demonstrably solving for town.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:37 pm I'm out. I'll kill Dennis with you lucy but I'm not killing Kate.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:38 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:37 pm I'm out. I'll kill Dennis with you lucy but I'm not killing Kate.

i picked dennis last night, ur voting wigly

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:41 pm Yes because there is no Dennis wagon last time I looked and I'm applying pressure off Kate.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:41 pmThere

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:41 pm Now work with me not against me

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:42 pm uwu, we have an accord on dennis

Where we learn the appeasing virtues of posting a pic of Saddam Hussein. @Dennis how do you feel about being the reconciliating factor between Neon and lucy? What's your read on Neon now?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:05 pm

Spoiler: show

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:02 pm 6:19pm EAST 11/3/23





Now

Lucy / Scrappydoo - I wouldnt be surprised if Scrappy was a wolf but also I dunno.

One of HK/Creature/Falcon/LPP should be a wolf but I town read them all atm. hmm

sig/Rondo/Fish one should be a wolf, I would lean fish

Dennis/Kate/Neon - odds all 3 are wolf? Actually possible with how dennis/kate have played with each other before and Neon too I would think that

I know how to distance. This isn't how I play wolf lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:43 pm Both Kate and Jack have Chad in POE.

I just voted him to 3 and made him viable.

Jack moved away and Kate pretended not to notice.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Just because you agree with her reads does NOT mean they are accurate. And she will flip on the town as soon as it's in her best interest to.

Kate.

If you continue to argue with bold faced logic I'll have no choice but to vig you.

Lucy having similar perspectives to me doesn't make their reads accurate but it means they are solving earnestly.

If we have a 3p solving earnestly. Who is as accurate as Lucy alongside me. Eliminating them benefits the mafia more than the town.

Treating them as town and letting them stomp wolves also encourages the mafia to shoot them.

I have already said all this.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:49 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:33 pm

I won't explain it but Rondo is an IC

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:32 pm MacDougall and Roxy/RondoDimBuckle are the same alignment.