The Syndicate

I am just going to go with my gut. Ender town. Sloonie town. Golden is kates problem so town. Guillo is town. If you believe that town only signs up for the game PC and porscha is town. Whos left? Dizzy and svs?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:01 am Thanks pc. Identical thoughts

Where is your big post?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:45 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:04 am mfw I post in hydra chat that rondo is being wolfy and tutuu posts in thread that I'm townreading him
Lmaooooo

Hahahah

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:23 am Rondo, Dizzy, Golden, Ender

All 4 of those participated in the scotty CFD

all 4 of those also avoided joining the death event. I believe 3 of them posted ITT around the event started (only Ender didn't?) which isn't a good look, since it looks like they could have participated

-t

POne I was literally unable to join, I don't know if I asked too late or being dnd made me ineligible, also not asking is nai,

Also urist outed himself and Kate into thread via golden. Why would I want to kill them after Michelle was already dying because of Ender and I still needed to deal with the cyclops which I could have died to?

Also phone posting so not responding to the above post about resolving

I have a haircut and a campaign to plan for a warhammer 40k game tonight but once that is done I will be diving into what I need to get done. If I am silent first half of day 6 if the game doesnt end it is because I will be out doing irl things. Second half I should be back with a vengence

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:58 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:54 am I will re-evaluate everything based off SVS flip

Rondo, please try to not make every post about me. If you are town it will help me find you if I see how you go on about solving the other players

While I have been pushing you hard, I haven't shied away from casing every single player, and pushing them hard too

We have about 19 hours left in the day, it would be great if you can make a case on your read on everyone until then

I am especially interested in your Dizzy read, as he is my next scumread. Coming into this day phase, I was scumreading him more than you

-t
Give me a snap read of Rondo's posts over the last two pages, please and thanks.
I think that those posts are better than the ones I have been scumreading Rondo for
Considering he has over 1k posts, I find that a non-scummy drop in a scummy ocean is not something that makes me change my mind too much
It doesn't help that Rondo admits that he wants to be in the PoE and is purposefully scummy. I'm unsure if he expected another outcome of this strategy (than me obliging and putting him in my PoE)
I am holding off on making a judgement yet as I am conserving my energy, sanity and post count. I want to see SVS flip. (judgement between rondo and dizzy, that is)

-t

how is it a surprise to you that I like to be scummy? Why does the admission have any impact at all? Have you not played a game with me before? I can point to King of the Hill where I played as scummy chaos Rondo and then towned up and won it. You have played games with me where I have acted super scummy and you have defended me how is this game different to cartomancy?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:54 am I will re-evaluate everything based off SVS flip

Rondo, please try to not make every post about me. If you are town it will help me find you if I see how you go on about solving the other players

While I have been pushing you hard, I haven't shied away from casing every single player, and pushing them hard too

We have about 19 hours left in the day, it would be great if you can make a case on your read on everyone until then

I am especially interested in your Dizzy read, as he is my next scumread. Coming into this day phase, I was scumreading him more than you

-t

If you post aout me I will reply, I have already been talking about other people regardless of you. Implying I havent been eyeballing everyone else is hilarious to me. Dizzy could easily be scum but I leave them to Ender and Ender is being rather silent on them. Sure I will give them a go tonight.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:46 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:42 am @Sloonei I truely believe you are the way we win this game. You can come in unbiased and solve. Unless there was a bus driver that ruined me / you / wilgy night 1. Which I find HIGHLY unlikely considering all the claims. You are the only person I can trust to have my best interests in mind. I can do my own stuff when I get home tonight but I would appreciate any input you can give me on whoever you can be bothered to sort
I have been holding onto a Golden town read since early in the game. It was based on our initial interactions early in the game. It was then strengthened by his claim, especially as it related to Alison. It was strengthened a second time by his demeanor this day phase. He has looked like a town player who is a bit exhausted but still very determined to win this thing.

I would need to read a summary of all the other mechanical claims to start piecing together more puzzle pieces. I know that Ender and Porscha both have some mechanical stuff floating around them, but I don't really know what the details of their claims are.

Kate was shielding the crap out of golden in DND thread. I keep tinfoiling and wanting to turbo but taking a breath and trusting kate. You trusting him makes me relax more

Porscha felt pretty scummy to me at the beginning of the day phase and people are calling PC 3p/town so maybe its just her?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:46 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:42 am @Sloonei I truely believe you are the way we win this game. You can come in unbiased and solve. Unless there was a bus driver that ruined me / you / wilgy night 1. Which I find HIGHLY unlikely considering all the claims. You are the only person I can trust to have my best interests in mind. I can do my own stuff when I get home tonight but I would appreciate any input you can give me on whoever you can be bothered to sort
I have been holding onto a Golden town read since early in the game. It was based on our initial interactions early in the game. It was then strengthened by his claim, especially as it related to Alison. It was strengthened a second time by his demeanor this day phase. He has looked like a town player who is a bit exhausted but still very determined to win this thing.

I would need to read a summary of all the other mechanical claims to start piecing together more puzzle pieces. I know that Ender and Porscha both have some mechanical stuff floating around them, but I don't really know what the details of their claims are.

what is your opinion of the mini game of werewolves, do you believe that no wolves would have signed up for that? I feel like with 2 wolves 1 would have signed up to be able to influence how it went. Which means one of PC/Porscha is a wolf. Everyone else is asserting that its all town and I feel like one of them is the other wolf.

I am still fuming that Urist outed himself, having +1 town would be great here

@Sloonei I truely believe you are the way we win this game. You can come in unbiased and solve. Unless there was a bus driver that ruined me / you / wilgy night 1. Which I find HIGHLY unlikely considering all the claims. You are the only person I can trust to have my best interests in mind. I can do my own stuff when I get home tonight but I would appreciate any input you can give me on whoever you can be bothered to sort

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:20 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:16 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:58 pm @Sloonei I need you to make an audible here, I am stuck in my own confbias against PC. Its likely lylo and we need to hit wolf. You tell me where and I go.
I should not be relied on to make this kind of decision. I have been open about my lack of clarity on reads in this game. There is simply too much of the game that I have not read. My goals have been to help others make reads and to foster a productive, healthy thread environment.

So what I can do is try to help you through your confirmation bias.

Close your eyes, take a deep breath, and type your best argument for town-reading Party Crasher.
They have been trying to get me a wolf over for the better part of 5 days.
They entered a game of death and came out where most likely only town and 3p entered

Everything else is kinda... bla and I dont love the town reasons because I can think of reasons why a wolf would do it.

tbh, thats really it. I want to think of more but its just not there
How has Party Crasher interacted with the flipped wolves?

I would have to go back and ISO cant atm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:16 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:58 pm @Sloonei I need you to make an audible here, I am stuck in my own confbias against PC. Its likely lylo and we need to hit wolf. You tell me where and I go.
I should not be relied on to make this kind of decision. I have been open about my lack of clarity on reads in this game. There is simply too much of the game that I have not read. My goals have been to help others make reads and to foster a productive, healthy thread environment.

So what I can do is try to help you through your confirmation bias.

Close your eyes, take a deep breath, and type your best argument for town-reading Party Crasher.

They have been trying to get me a wolf over for the better part of 5 days.
They entered a game of death and came out where most likely only town and 3p entered

Everything else is kinda... bla and I dont love the town reasons because I can think of reasons why a wolf would do it.

tbh, thats really it. I want to think of more but its just not there

@Sloonei I need you to make an audible here, I am stuck in my own confbias against PC. Its likely lylo and we need to hit wolf. You tell me where and I go.

fyi I have confirmation from Nook privately that lylo is silent. So we could be in lylo right now and not know it. In fact from all the activity I would say we are. Nook did say it would be a 5 day game and it is day 5

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:27 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:23 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:21 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:21 pm There cant be 3 3p left. Ender / SVS / PC can there? 2 Mafia. = 5 / 9 no. Game would be over already. so its just SVS + PC?
like here
why would you assume 3p would wolfside

Mod squad's wincon is achievable from beyond their grave which doesn't seem to depend on mafia win
no I was trying to figure out how many actual town were left. Its safer to assume 3p will wolf side
mk.

If you were trying to get into PoE why did you expect tutuu to townread you and why would she just wolfread you if she knew she normally townreads you.
Also not sure where i'm going with this but scotty also thought you were a wolf so it's not like "mafia is completely making everything up" (scotty started considering it before tutuu i think)

tutuu normally gets what I am doing and gives me the benefit of the doubt. Or she flipflops on me back and forth. She is being odd this game. So there are very few reasons why that would be. I dont know why she would but I dont see it is a good thing. Scotty doesnt have a history of being at least somewhat close to my alignment. This isnt about the accuracy of the read but the behaviour that I would normally expect that isnt there.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:23 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:21 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:21 pm There cant be 3 3p left. Ender / SVS / PC can there? 2 Mafia. = 5 / 9 no. Game would be over already. so its just SVS + PC?
like here
why would you assume 3p would wolfside

Mod squad's wincon is achievable from beyond their grave which doesn't seem to depend on mafia win
no I was trying to figure out how many actual town were left. Its safer to assume 3p will wolf side

I mean its obvious. SVS is the ATE killer, so if their claim is correct then she needs to die for modsquad to achieve wincon and she needed to hit ATE for them to lose. Which potentially takes her out of the pool of mafia

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:21 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:21 pm There cant be 3 3p left. Ender / SVS / PC can there? 2 Mafia. = 5 / 9 no. Game would be over already. so its just SVS + PC?
like here
why would you assume 3p would wolfside

Mod squad's wincon is achievable from beyond their grave which doesn't seem to depend on mafia win

no I was trying to figure out how many actual town were left. Its safer to assume 3p will wolf side

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:16 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:07 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:48 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm

This post caught my eye earlier, and I think some of it might be useful.

How are you resolved from the eveent?
And how are we revealed as maliciously pushing you.

Also do you believe our claim of 3 heads disappearing upon the first kill?
What? so the 3 heads that are left are the three heads that are still talking? When were you first killed? Tutuu has been talking like all of you are alive. So this is conflicting information for me. When were you killed? Or are you asking if I believe it? No I dont. I think we could just kill you with impunity. You (collective) have lied to make the barrier to wanting to kill you higher.

I am resolved because people have been saying me calling wilgy / sloonie town becaus they are paired as unknowable bs and I a just full of shit. But now wilgy is town and we know Sloonie is. (well I know) but you should take it as sloonie is town leader. He will die tonight because of this so he should really give us his full and proper evaluation of the game. Wolves can NOT leave him alive and wont kill me because people refuse to town read me like I wanted them to so I could die to the night kill. but its too late now.

You are constantly pushing town for 4 day phases, how is that not malicious and almost slank cover?
We have not been hit yet.
Not sure I understand the explanation still. You could still be a wolf who guessed that wilgy & sloonei are town (not a risky guess I think)

Also
tutuu pushed sig (probably not relevant to the point you were making)
tutuu claims to have pushed seanzie a lot (can't attest to this but i do trust tutuu)
tutuu had a wolfread on alison n2 (Does this one count?)

I do agree that we do get a little silly sometimes & probably should be discussing reads more
but you can't say that we've only been pushing town
Not a risky guess? there are 3 mod squad, if you are 3p and svs and ender then that leaves 6 / 35 - 7 = 6/28 = 21.43% rounding up. So a 1/5 chance each person is a 3p. .79*.79=62.41% chance in two picks 1 of them is 3P. So wrong. Its not a small risk. I would still do it as wolf sure. But once wilgy flipped Sloonie would murder me hard if he wasnt what he should be. Would I be so comfortable asserting over and over and over that I KNOW I am right if I am wrong?
I mean
that number is somewhat high because
A) you're assuming quite a few people are 3p
B) If town flips, and the other one is 3p they might not do anything
C) waza was already dead when you claimed the check

(Not saying you're a wolf)

Breaking new:

Tutuu is a liar she didn't actually push seanzie but claimed to. I will be exacting my vengeance promptly.

~sheep
Either way I dont think my numbers are far off the truth because I didnt have sig in there so even if you take one of Ender / PC / SVS out it still fators in the same. Maybe its closer to 50%. Sure the 3P might let me slide but so far everyone is claiming to town side and why wouldnt the 3p throw a wolf under the bus to get that SWEET SWEET town cred to then obtain wincon?
Rondo
what did sig flip

also fair

one of sig /falcon flipped 3p modsqua.. ah fuck. I see probably closer to 47% now

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:17 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:18 pm There are supposed to be 6 people in that hydra? Yet only 3 people I know talk, Tutuu, most of the time, DZ randomly at DZ times and they do some light input but are super disconnected from the game and then syn to pitch in when I am getting stomped on. I think she is the main reason I am scum read in that chat. She is probably the most wrong on me if they are town. She is also the most wolfy when she posts
There are 5 people in the hydra
Tutuu (doing most of the solving & posting & trolling)
Syn
DZ (honestly no clue pretty inactive in the hydra chat haven't seen any of his posts)
Me
Bereft or whatever (doing something idk he accidentally posted on the wrong account once I believe he posted on the right account at least once)
Birdswithteeth was there but then left
Manny was going to be in the game but then wasn't
Nanook & the other mods also have access i guess
Everyone can be in there after the game ends

The main thing that's weird about your posts is just the odd gaps in logic (e.g. combining maf & 3p for parity)

~sheep

eh?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:16 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:54 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:50 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:48 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:19 pm I don’t think wolves participated at all.

That resolves Sloonei as town.

We’re down to nine. Probably two wolves. SVS is not mod squad.
SVS not mod squad, I am resolved, [VOTE: SVS ] aubergine And PC is now revealed as maliciously pushing me. Cant say I hate the outcome of the event for me. I do hate it for town
This post caught my eye earlier, and I think some of it might be useful.

How are you resolved from the eveent?
And how are we revealed as maliciously pushing you.

Also do you believe our claim of 3 heads disappearing upon the first kill?
What? so the 3 heads that are left are the three heads that are still talking? When were you first killed? Tutuu has been talking like all of you are alive. So this is conflicting information for me. When were you killed? Or are you asking if I believe it? No I dont. I think we could just kill you with impunity. You (collective) have lied to make the barrier to wanting to kill you higher.

I am resolved because people have been saying me calling wilgy / sloonie town becaus they are paired as unknowable bs and I a just full of shit. But now wilgy is town and we know Sloonie is. (well I know) but you should take it as sloonie is town leader. He will die tonight because of this so he should really give us his full and proper evaluation of the game. Wolves can NOT leave him alive and wont kill me because people refuse to town read me like I wanted them to so I could die to the night kill. but its too late now.

You are constantly pushing town for 4 day phases, how is that not malicious and almost slank cover?
I would like to object to the term slank cover here as I define slanking as having to do with activity levels and PC carried the heck outta threadstate on multiple occasions
so what would you call a stagnant push?
What's the difference between a read that's maintained and a read that's maintained

twice half its length

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:07 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:48 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:19 pm I don’t think wolves participated at all.

That resolves Sloonei as town.

We’re down to nine. Probably two wolves. SVS is not mod squad.
SVS not mod squad, I am resolved, [VOTE: SVS ] aubergine And PC is now revealed as maliciously pushing me. Cant say I hate the outcome of the event for me. I do hate it for town
This post caught my eye earlier, and I think some of it might be useful.

How are you resolved from the eveent?
And how are we revealed as maliciously pushing you.

Also do you believe our claim of 3 heads disappearing upon the first kill?
What? so the 3 heads that are left are the three heads that are still talking? When were you first killed? Tutuu has been talking like all of you are alive. So this is conflicting information for me. When were you killed? Or are you asking if I believe it? No I dont. I think we could just kill you with impunity. You (collective) have lied to make the barrier to wanting to kill you higher.

I am resolved because people have been saying me calling wilgy / sloonie town becaus they are paired as unknowable bs and I a just full of shit. But now wilgy is town and we know Sloonie is. (well I know) but you should take it as sloonie is town leader. He will die tonight because of this so he should really give us his full and proper evaluation of the game. Wolves can NOT leave him alive and wont kill me because people refuse to town read me like I wanted them to so I could die to the night kill. but its too late now.

You are constantly pushing town for 4 day phases, how is that not malicious and almost slank cover?
We have not been hit yet.
Not sure I understand the explanation still. You could still be a wolf who guessed that wilgy & sloonei are town (not a risky guess I think)

Also
tutuu pushed sig (probably not relevant to the point you were making)
tutuu claims to have pushed seanzie a lot (can't attest to this but i do trust tutuu)
tutuu had a wolfread on alison n2 (Does this one count?)

I do agree that we do get a little silly sometimes & probably should be discussing reads more
but you can't say that we've only been pushing town
Not a risky guess? there are 3 mod squad, if you are 3p and svs and ender then that leaves 6 / 35 - 7 = 6/28 = 21.43% rounding up. So a 1/5 chance each person is a 3p. .79*.79=62.41% chance in two picks 1 of them is 3P. So wrong. Its not a small risk. I would still do it as wolf sure. But once wilgy flipped Sloonie would murder me hard if he wasnt what he should be. Would I be so comfortable asserting over and over and over that I KNOW I am right if I am wrong?
I mean
that number is somewhat high because
A) you're assuming quite a few people are 3p
B) If town flips, and the other one is 3p they might not do anything
C) waza was already dead when you claimed the check

(Not saying you're a wolf)

Breaking new:

Tutuu is a liar she didn't actually push seanzie but claimed to. I will be exacting my vengeance promptly.

~sheep

Either way I dont think my numbers are far off the truth because I didnt have sig in there so even if you take one of Ender / PC / SVS out it still fators in the same. Maybe its closer to 50%. Sure the 3P might let me slide but so far everyone is claiming to town side and why wouldnt the 3p throw a wolf under the bus to get that SWEET SWEET town cred to then obtain wincon?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:51 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:50 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:03 pm Tutuu normally gets me as well which is another thing that has been wigging me out all game. Just look at the Cartomancy game. I was fully getting on the chopping block and tutuu defended me like she was inside my head pointing out exactly why I did things. But this game she cant even take a moment to see things from my pov. She started out by town reading me saying I am classic town game and everyone else cant see it. Then she did a weird pivot onto me being outed wolf scum and hasnt given up. I have been thinking about it and It could have been Alison telling her to back off on the town read on me so she could push me late game but it just ended up making her look strange and highlighting her weird play to me.
I dunno. I recall tutuu making a post that said she hasn't been able to tr you like she normally can and that your posts were like nails on a chalkboard lol but I dont know when that read was made
Yeah she rescinded the townread ~24 hours into d1 and hasn't stopped since tbh, and more or less the same things but also featuring an "every post he makes is wolfy"

~sheep
And you dont beleive I would understand if I was wolf every post I make would be wolfy? I know my posts have been wolfy because I wanted to slip into the POE to have a gotcha. You dont think she is confbiased? Ender has said as much that I want to be in the poe to help me solve. If you guys are town you need to take me out of the POE now or we lose the game.
Why or how is that game losing
Not like their single vote can put you over by itself
Im not dying today, svs goes over, tomorrow is lylo because I doubt there is one kill in the night and then if both of us are town we thunderdome and lose.
Oh
so SVS is 3p to you?
Hm

Who is our wolfpartner in this situation or are we alone?

(Also we'd be a lost wolf right?)

seriously, go back and read. Ive already highlighted your potential partners

I forgot sig was 3p, it only increases the odds to make it worse

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:48 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:19 pm I don’t think wolves participated at all.

That resolves Sloonei as town.

We’re down to nine. Probably two wolves. SVS is not mod squad.
SVS not mod squad, I am resolved, [VOTE: SVS ] aubergine And PC is now revealed as maliciously pushing me. Cant say I hate the outcome of the event for me. I do hate it for town
This post caught my eye earlier, and I think some of it might be useful.

How are you resolved from the eveent?
And how are we revealed as maliciously pushing you.

Also do you believe our claim of 3 heads disappearing upon the first kill?
What? so the 3 heads that are left are the three heads that are still talking? When were you first killed? Tutuu has been talking like all of you are alive. So this is conflicting information for me. When were you killed? Or are you asking if I believe it? No I dont. I think we could just kill you with impunity. You (collective) have lied to make the barrier to wanting to kill you higher.

I am resolved because people have been saying me calling wilgy / sloonie town becaus they are paired as unknowable bs and I a just full of shit. But now wilgy is town and we know Sloonie is. (well I know) but you should take it as sloonie is town leader. He will die tonight because of this so he should really give us his full and proper evaluation of the game. Wolves can NOT leave him alive and wont kill me because people refuse to town read me like I wanted them to so I could die to the night kill. but its too late now.

You are constantly pushing town for 4 day phases, how is that not malicious and almost slank cover?
We have not been hit yet.
Not sure I understand the explanation still. You could still be a wolf who guessed that wilgy & sloonei are town (not a risky guess I think)

Also
tutuu pushed sig (probably not relevant to the point you were making)
tutuu claims to have pushed seanzie a lot (can't attest to this but i do trust tutuu)
tutuu had a wolfread on alison n2 (Does this one count?)

I do agree that we do get a little silly sometimes & probably should be discussing reads more
but you can't say that we've only been pushing town

Not a risky guess? there are 3 mod squad, if you are 3p and svs and ender then that leaves 6 / 35 - 7 = 6/28 = 21.43% rounding up. So a 1/5 chance each person is a 3p. .79*.79=62.41% chance in two picks 1 of them is 3P. So wrong. Its not a small risk. I would still do it as wolf sure. But once wilgy flipped Sloonie would murder me hard if he wasnt what he should be. Would I be so comfortable asserting over and over and over that I KNOW I am right if I am wrong?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:51 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:50 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:03 pm Tutuu normally gets me as well which is another thing that has been wigging me out all game. Just look at the Cartomancy game. I was fully getting on the chopping block and tutuu defended me like she was inside my head pointing out exactly why I did things. But this game she cant even take a moment to see things from my pov. She started out by town reading me saying I am classic town game and everyone else cant see it. Then she did a weird pivot onto me being outed wolf scum and hasnt given up. I have been thinking about it and It could have been Alison telling her to back off on the town read on me so she could push me late game but it just ended up making her look strange and highlighting her weird play to me.
I dunno. I recall tutuu making a post that said she hasn't been able to tr you like she normally can and that your posts were like nails on a chalkboard lol but I dont know when that read was made
Yeah she rescinded the townread ~24 hours into d1 and hasn't stopped since tbh, and more or less the same things but also featuring an "every post he makes is wolfy"

~sheep
And you dont beleive I would understand if I was wolf every post I make would be wolfy? I know my posts have been wolfy because I wanted to slip into the POE to have a gotcha. You dont think she is confbiased? Ender has said as much that I want to be in the poe to help me solve. If you guys are town you need to take me out of the POE now or we lose the game.
Why or how is that game losing
Not like their single vote can put you over by itself

Im not dying today, svs goes over, tomorrow is lylo because I doubt there is one kill in the night and then if both of us are town we thunderdome and lose.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:50 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:48 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:19 pm I don’t think wolves participated at all.

That resolves Sloonei as town.

We’re down to nine. Probably two wolves. SVS is not mod squad.
SVS not mod squad, I am resolved, [VOTE: SVS ] aubergine And PC is now revealed as maliciously pushing me. Cant say I hate the outcome of the event for me. I do hate it for town
This post caught my eye earlier, and I think some of it might be useful.

How are you resolved from the eveent?
And how are we revealed as maliciously pushing you.

Also do you believe our claim of 3 heads disappearing upon the first kill?
What? so the 3 heads that are left are the three heads that are still talking? When were you first killed? Tutuu has been talking like all of you are alive. So this is conflicting information for me. When were you killed? Or are you asking if I believe it? No I dont. I think we could just kill you with impunity. You (collective) have lied to make the barrier to wanting to kill you higher.

I am resolved because people have been saying me calling wilgy / sloonie town becaus they are paired as unknowable bs and I a just full of shit. But now wilgy is town and we know Sloonie is. (well I know) but you should take it as sloonie is town leader. He will die tonight because of this so he should really give us his full and proper evaluation of the game. Wolves can NOT leave him alive and wont kill me because people refuse to town read me like I wanted them to so I could die to the night kill. but its too late now.

You are constantly pushing town for 4 day phases, how is that not malicious and almost slank cover?
I would like to object to the term slank cover here as I define slanking as having to do with activity levels and PC carried the heck outta threadstate on multiple occasions

so what would you call a stagnant push?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:47 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:03 pm Tutuu normally gets me as well which is another thing that has been wigging me out all game. Just look at the Cartomancy game. I was fully getting on the chopping block and tutuu defended me like she was inside my head pointing out exactly why I did things. But this game she cant even take a moment to see things from my pov. She started out by town reading me saying I am classic town game and everyone else cant see it. Then she did a weird pivot onto me being outed wolf scum and hasnt given up. I have been thinking about it and It could have been Alison telling her to back off on the town read on me so she could push me late game but it just ended up making her look strange and highlighting her weird play to me.
I dunno. I recall tutuu making a post that said she hasn't been able to tr you like she normally can and that your posts were like nails on a chalkboard lol but I dont know when that read was made
Yeah she rescinded the townread ~24 hours into d1 and hasn't stopped since tbh, and more or less the same things but also featuring an "every post he makes is wolfy"

~sheep

And you dont beleive I would understand if I was wolf every post I make would be wolfy? I know my posts have been wolfy because I wanted to slip into the POE to have a gotcha. You dont think she is confbiased? Ender has said as much that I want to be in the poe to help me solve. If you guys are town you need to take me out of the POE now or we lose the game.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:42 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:19 pm I don’t think wolves participated at all.

That resolves Sloonei as town.

We’re down to nine. Probably two wolves. SVS is not mod squad.
SVS not mod squad, I am resolved, [VOTE: SVS ] aubergine And PC is now revealed as maliciously pushing me. Cant say I hate the outcome of the event for me. I do hate it for town
This post caught my eye earlier, and I think some of it might be useful.

How are you resolved from the eveent?
And how are we revealed as maliciously pushing you.

Also do you believe our claim of 3 heads disappearing upon the first kill?

What? so the 3 heads that are left are the three heads that are still talking? When were you first killed? Tutuu has been talking like all of you are alive. So this is conflicting information for me. When were you killed? Or are you asking if I believe it? No I dont. I think we could just kill you with impunity. You (collective) have lied to make the barrier to wanting to kill you higher.

I am resolved because people have been saying me calling wilgy / sloonie town becaus they are paired as unknowable bs and I a just full of shit. But now wilgy is town and we know Sloonie is. (well I know) but you should take it as sloonie is town leader. He will die tonight because of this so he should really give us his full and proper evaluation of the game. Wolves can NOT leave him alive and wont kill me because people refuse to town read me like I wanted them to so I could die to the night kill. but its too late now.

You are constantly pushing town for 4 day phases, how is that not malicious and almost slank cover?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:32 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:31 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:28 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:23 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:16 pm I don't need to spend time scum-casing you, tutuu already did, I agree with her. people have done their best discouraging her throughout the game and she's done a great job considering other worlds and pushing town forward. you're just malding because you see that your "oh rondo, he's so silly" cover is starting to crack
hahaahahahaha, I didnt even go for the rondo he is so silly cover this game. I went for the uber town up into having an out this game. I have done some memeing sure. But I have been in full solve mode the whole time. If you cant find me then its skill issue or disingenuous pushing. For me it has crossed from the former into the latter this day phase and if you are town we need to find each other or I will keep putting words into thread for the wolves to murder you in lylo
What do you find wolfy about us besides wolfreading you?
this just proves that you didnt read anything I said. You just saw me talking about tutuu and just threw more sus into thread
Full disclosure
I am sheep
i pretty much just read that post

ah I thought it was Syn, who was there reading my posts

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:28 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:23 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:16 pm I don't need to spend time scum-casing you, tutuu already did, I agree with her. people have done their best discouraging her throughout the game and she's done a great job considering other worlds and pushing town forward. you're just malding because you see that your "oh rondo, he's so silly" cover is starting to crack
hahaahahahaha, I didnt even go for the rondo he is so silly cover this game. I went for the uber town up into having an out this game. I have done some memeing sure. But I have been in full solve mode the whole time. If you cant find me then its skill issue or disingenuous pushing. For me it has crossed from the former into the latter this day phase and if you are town we need to find each other or I will keep putting words into thread for the wolves to murder you in lylo
What do you find wolfy about us besides wolfreading you?

this just proves that you didnt read anything I said. You just saw me talking about tutuu and just threw more sus into thread

Pokemon Silver / Gold #pages the best pokemon after Blue/Red

I put enders confidence on me being wolf lower than 40%

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:16 pm I don't need to spend time scum-casing you, tutuu already did, I agree with her. people have done their best discouraging her throughout the game and she's done a great job considering other worlds and pushing town forward. you're just malding because you see that your "oh rondo, he's so silly" cover is starting to crack

hahaahahahaha, I didnt even go for the rondo he is so silly cover this game. I went for the uber town up into having an out this game. I have done some memeing sure. But I have been in full solve mode the whole time. If you cant find me then its skill issue or disingenuous pushing. For me it has crossed from the former into the latter this day phase and if you are town we need to find each other or I will keep putting words into thread for the wolves to murder you in lylo

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:16 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:10 pm Ender can you outline why I am mafia?
Game doesn't make sense entirely.

Golden is almost certainly not Soup mafia.

I've played with him being 3p but idc, he's not mafia.

Sloonei is not mafia with you and not mafia without you. Which makes him not mafia.

Party Crasher's play makes low sense as wolf. Maybe 3p again, but again I don't care.

S~V~S makes too much sense as 3p, I don't think they're mafia.

Which leaves me with Porscha/Dizzy/You/Guillo.

And idk, the way you've treated several things today just feels weird for you.

yes, but to remind you of you. Weird is NAI for me. look at the facts. D2 I was saying Wilgy + Sloonie paired. by your own logic Sloonie not mafia. Wilgy flipped town. Sloonie can be town. Which I have been softing since d2. I have also been in a neighbourhood and if you think like golden Its possible for me to snow nutella / urist / kate / michelle who are all confirmed town who all wanted me alive (though I will admit Michelle I shook for a bit before I explained what I was doing before she died) . They all (though Nutella cant confirm because she died) immediately understood why I was so scummy day 2 when I explained it in DND chat and accepted I was town. Kate shielded me in thread, Urist did too. Michelle didnt explode me (though to be fair that could have been to leave me to help with the cyclops) but basically unless you think I can snow them all, they town leaned me. So that leaves you with Porscha / Dizzy / Guillo.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:13 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:39 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:37 pm I really do think PC is just town. You two tunnelling and thunderdoming isn’t conducive to town win imo
Why though? Honestly. One of us has to go at this point and I dont want it to be me, sure we can get SVS but I think PC is a hit now. If you guys want to go SVS today I am going to back you but I want you to SERIOUSLY consider PC as a wolf here.
you literally cannot kill us today

your only hope to make that happen is to either:

a) chop us at LYLO

or

b) convince someone to vote guillo with us and make damn sure everyone else stacks on SVS today. SVS dies, guillo pops our vest overnight, you thunderdome us tomorrow and the chop will actually work

you are being wolfy af and it's disingenuous to say you're only wolf-read because tutuu is tunneled
if we believe what you say, if it isnt already silent lylo.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME would you announce if it was lylo?

Also its very reductive to say that I am only saying tutuu is tunneling if you read what I am saying I said I was being scummy and then listed a buch of reasons I think tutuu is being disingenous. But you focused on that, interesting

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:39 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:37 pm I really do think PC is just town. You two tunnelling and thunderdoming isn’t conducive to town win imo
Why though? Honestly. One of us has to go at this point and I dont want it to be me, sure we can get SVS but I think PC is a hit now. If you guys want to go SVS today I am going to back you but I want you to SERIOUSLY consider PC as a wolf here.
you literally cannot kill us today

your only hope to make that happen is to either:

a) chop us at LYLO

or

b) convince someone to vote guillo with us and make damn sure everyone else stacks on SVS today. SVS dies, guillo pops our vest overnight, you thunderdome us tomorrow and the chop will actually work

you are being wolfy af and it's disingenuous to say you're only wolf-read because tutuu is tunneled

if we believe what you say, if it isnt already silent lylo.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME would you announce if it was lylo?

happy with my solve. Barring Ender being wolf and snowing me. But It has to happen one game, I got him in HR so its his turn to get me

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:39 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:37 pm I really do think PC is just town. You two tunnelling and thunderdoming isn’t conducive to town win imo
Why though? Honestly. One of us has to go at this point and I dont want it to be me, sure we can get SVS but I think PC is a hit now. If you guys want to go SVS today I am going to back you but I want you to SERIOUSLY consider PC as a wolf here.
It will be considered if svs doesnt flip wolf

This might be TMI knowing SVS will not flip wolf and setting up a pivot to turn on her partner tomorrow. BUT what are the chances that 2 wolves sign up against 3 town? Nah this is just me tinfoiling

Tutuu normally gets me as well which is another thing that has been wigging me out all game. Just look at the Cartomancy game. I was fully getting on the chopping block and tutuu defended me like she was inside my head pointing out exactly why I did things. But this game she cant even take a moment to see things from my pov. She started out by town reading me saying I am classic town game and everyone else cant see it. Then she did a weird pivot onto me being outed wolf scum and hasnt given up. I have been thinking about it and It could have been Alison telling her to back off on the town read on me so she could push me late game but it just ended up making her look strange and highlighting her weird play to me.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:37 pm I really do think PC is just town. You two tunnelling and thunderdoming isn’t conducive to town win imo

Why though? Honestly. One of us has to go at this point and I dont want it to be me, sure we can get SVS but I think PC is a hit now. If you guys want to go SVS today I am going to back you but I want you to SERIOUSLY consider PC as a wolf here.

@Golden @EnderWiggin @Porscha @Guillotine @Sloonei do you actually town read PC?

Do you actually town reach each other? If you dont have any complaints then I slam PC today, she flips wolf, I die tonight, Sloonie is town leader tomorrow. Because Then we get SVS or whoever the spew from PC shows as wolf. afterwards

@DrWilgy @sig @falcon45ca can I get you guys to pop your votes on sleep or something so I can see the votes easier? ty

I have talked myself into PC > SVS > Dizzy > Ender

gg, good work people

There cant be 3 3p left. Ender / SVS / PC can there? 2 Mafia. = 5 / 9 no. Game would be over already. so its just SVS + PC?

you know what. I think I am ready to thunderdome PC

There are supposed to be 6 people in that hydra? Yet only 3 people I know talk, Tutuu, most of the time, DZ randomly at DZ times and they do some light input but are super disconnected from the game and then syn to pitch in when I am getting stomped on. I think she is the main reason I am scum read in that chat. She is probably the most wrong on me if they are town. She is also the most wolfy when she posts

So I wouldnt say I have no cause to not be paranoid about that slot. I think I have some pretty well thought out reasons as to why they could be mafia and its not just me trying to survive

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