The Syndicate

Ender runs? Interesting

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:59 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:46 am Hey @EnderWiggin

When deciding who yo give stuff each night, who else did you consider and why’d you decide against them?
Uh. N1 I tossed up between Dennis/Scotty/I forget who my third was but they died early too. Might've been IAWY? I didn't note it down anywhere.

Anyway I picked Scotty cause less likely to have been hit by other affects.

N2 I picked Wilgy because strongest townread that was least likely to be killed, and if my ability changed then Wilgy was the one most POE'd of my towncore so would help town re-eval. There was never any doubt about this choice.

N3 I tossed up a few things. Dizzy was in contention but I wasn't confident he was town and my ability to believe Dizzy town was draining away so I picked Michelle who I was 99.9% sure was town and who generally has a strong game read, because I believed I was giving guns. I also thought about giving it to Mac but I was pretty sure he was dead or dying soon.

N4 I went through most players. I had Rondo in selection for a while but decided to go for Porscha as I felt it more relevant to my worldview.
relevant how? As in I am not a wolf and you dont need to test me?
As in "Less likely to nuke someone I need alive if they get a suicide vest."

aka kill you back. So you knew it was going to suicide vest Michelle then? That's what the grammar here suggests and you are very particular about your grammar. You've gone so far as to correct one of my posts this very game. So you did know what your power was going to do?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:01 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:56 am Sloonei is tortoise dad and Porscha is cyclops mum
I did not know this. I think Porscha is trying to bait me into talking about it so she can kill me.
you should do stand up

yeah I am really not vibing with Porscha this game. Almost lock wolf at this point

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:52 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:13 am
yeah... ender is no longer town in my book. I was hoping he would be and treating him like a lock town from d1 to wig mac and him out but now he needs a serious town up or chop imho. But porscha has been the worst offender in trying to get me over today. Latching onto tutuu and pushing me without actually grabbing on and letting tutuu take the blame
That's not even true.
pfft you were as close to a Rondo lock town as anyone has ever been day 1 (not including Mac because he is a squishy lovely boy who would never be a wolf)
You called me a wolf D1.

probably once as a joke

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:46 am Hey @EnderWiggin

When deciding who yo give stuff each night, who else did you consider and why’d you decide against them?
Uh. N1 I tossed up between Dennis/Scotty/I forget who my third was but they died early too. Might've been IAWY? I didn't note it down anywhere.

Anyway I picked Scotty cause less likely to have been hit by other affects.

N2 I picked Wilgy because strongest townread that was least likely to be killed, and if my ability changed then Wilgy was the one most POE'd of my towncore so would help town re-eval. There was never any doubt about this choice.

N3 I tossed up a few things. Dizzy was in contention but I wasn't confident he was town and my ability to believe Dizzy town was draining away so I picked Michelle who I was 99.9% sure was town and who generally has a strong game read, because I believed I was giving guns. I also thought about giving it to Mac but I was pretty sure he was dead or dying soon.

N4 I went through most players. I had Rondo in selection for a while but decided to go for Porscha as I felt it more relevant to my worldview.

relevant how? As in I am not a wolf and you dont need to test me?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:56 am Sloonei is tortoise dad and Porscha is cyclops mum

I did not know this. I think Porscha is trying to bait me into talking about it so she can kill me.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:55 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:53 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:41 am For me Porscha and sig are locktown, if they are wolves town is screwed levels of locktown.
I think Sig is the one you're misclearing tbh.
Btw if I AM misclearing sig then that ‘hero shot’ was on me and actually I hero neighboured lol.

if that is the case. Then you did not misuse your power this game and I take everything I said back

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:53 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:48 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.
Did you have a n0 for your parity?
I didnt think I could use it night 0 I was only told my role d1, so no n1. seeded it d2, got more agro about it d3 then wilgy shot a wolf so I went back to chilling and being a derp
So the only initial lie about your role is that you did not create a neighborhood + parity cop, you only had parity cop and got dragged into the dnd server, right?

Has anything happened in the dnd server since yesterday? What's up with the cyclops? (Is his mom doing well? Shes so sweet)

what? the neighborhood was obviously the dnd group but I was trying to off the scent from them and get people looking for a third to smoke screen for a day while we delt with the cyclops. I will not confirm what I had. I will only confirm the outcome.

I will not talk about the dnd server since the last time people did it went poorly

Porscha is evil. She knows information she couldnt. Explain why you said this.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:48 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.
Did you have a n0 for your parity?
I didnt think I could use it night 0 I was only told my role d1, so no n1. seeded it d2, got more agro about it d3 then wilgy shot a wolf so I went back to chilling and being a derp
So the only initial lie about your role is that you did not create a neighborhood + parity cop, you only had parity cop and got dragged into the dnd server, right?

Has anything happened in the dnd server since yesterday? What's up with the cyclops? (Is his mom doing well? Shes so sweet)

what? the neighborhood was obviously the dnd group but I was trying to off the scent from them and get people looking for a third to smoke screen for a day while we delt with the cyclops. I will not confirm what I had. I will only confirm the outcome.

I will not talk about the dnd server since the last time people did it went poorly

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:49 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:13 am
yeah... ender is no longer town in my book. I was hoping he would be and treating him like a lock town from d1 to wig mac and him out but now he needs a serious town up or chop imho. But porscha has been the worst offender in trying to get me over today. Latching onto tutuu and pushing me without actually grabbing on and letting tutuu take the blame
That's not even true.

pfft you were as close to a Rondo lock town as anyone has ever been day 1 (not including Mac because he is a squishy lovely boy who would never be a wolf)

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless
oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.
Did you have a n0 for your parity?

I didnt think I could use it night 0 I was only told my role d1, so no n1. seeded it d2, got more agro about it d3 then wilgy shot a wolf so I went back to chilling and being a derp

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:44 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:28 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok so Enders role mechanically doesnt make sense to be mafia Golden because

1) its incredibly pro town

See, I'm not sure I agree with this. Assuming I remember correctly:

What we know is:

He gave a gun to scotty, scotty killed Dennis. PoE kill yes, but the whole PoE was town.

He specifically made sure Scotty knew where it came from/got a signpost that he could claim to down in the thread. Scotty got to use the gun

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?
He gave a gun to sig, sig killed Alison in a hero shot
He gave a gun to Wilgy, Wilgy killed Radishes in a PoE that was stacked with wolves
He gave a suicide vest to Michelle, killing Michelle and no one else in a PoE that was ??? re wolves.
He gave Porscha a non-kill power.

All in all, the outcome of Ender's ability has been pro town, but.

What we don't know is

Is Ender honest about not knowing what he's giving? (t!Ender is being honest. w!Ender is lying).
What Ender's role actually IS (especially given Ender's claim that he doesn't know what he's giving).

Let's imagine a world where Ender is wolf and knows exactly what he's giving, humour me.

1) First gun, he gives to someone who he trusts is likely to shoot into a PoE full of town. And Dennis dies, but Ender is able to begin a campaign for town cred with "hey Scotty, what did I give you?"
2) Second gun, he gives to someone who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily and did go for the hero shot. There's a world where that shot takes out Mac or me or something like that.
3) Third gun, he gives to someone else who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily go for the hero shot. Wilgy, instead, plays it safe.
4) So Ender goes instead for suicide vest, giving it to a townie who then dies wearing it.
5) And then he gives something that isn't kill power.

Also btw I guess the kills must be used the same night since the guns operated on nights one two and three, but (4) and (5) waited until the next day.

In a world where Ender is wolf, he can choose what he gives, and he's chosen to give guns to people he thinks will shoot town, maybe even towncore. It's a risk, but it's a very high percentage risk to take for town cred.

But as the numbers shift, the gifts become more conservative.

The ability could easily also be used to give a gun to a teammate (he didn't, and that's clean play as wolf or town, but there's inherently that ability involved) - enabling wolves to claim they are hero-shooting and shoot outside PoE without a tonne of risk to Ender himself.

I don't think the role is *inherently* pro town in the event Ender is wolf, particularly because I think in that scenario he knows more.
REEEEEEEEEEEEE how many times do I have to say MAC KILLED DENNIS
Did you not just say it twice to the same post?

multi tabbing. or fake derp. you decide

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:42 am Kate had you as locktown and tbh even though I think you can fool a whole neighbourhood as wild I’m trusting her on that.

I appreciate the respect

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:28 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok so Enders role mechanically doesnt make sense to be mafia Golden because

1) its incredibly pro town

See, I'm not sure I agree with this. Assuming I remember correctly:

What we know is:

He gave a gun to scotty, scotty killed Dennis. PoE kill yes, but the whole PoE was town.

He specifically made sure Scotty knew where it came from/got a signpost that he could claim to down in the thread. Scotty got to use the gun

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?
He gave a gun to sig, sig killed Alison in a hero shot
He gave a gun to Wilgy, Wilgy killed Radishes in a PoE that was stacked with wolves
He gave a suicide vest to Michelle, killing Michelle and no one else in a PoE that was ??? re wolves.
He gave Porscha a non-kill power.

All in all, the outcome of Ender's ability has been pro town, but.

What we don't know is

Is Ender honest about not knowing what he's giving? (t!Ender is being honest. w!Ender is lying).
What Ender's role actually IS (especially given Ender's claim that he doesn't know what he's giving).

Let's imagine a world where Ender is wolf and knows exactly what he's giving, humour me.

1) First gun, he gives to someone who he trusts is likely to shoot into a PoE full of town. And Dennis dies, but Ender is able to begin a campaign for town cred with "hey Scotty, what did I give you?"
2) Second gun, he gives to someone who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily and did go for the hero shot. There's a world where that shot takes out Mac or me or something like that.
3) Third gun, he gives to someone else who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily go for the hero shot. Wilgy, instead, plays it safe.
4) So Ender goes instead for suicide vest, giving it to a townie who then dies wearing it.
5) And then he gives something that isn't kill power.

Also btw I guess the kills must be used the same night since the guns operated on nights one two and three, but (4) and (5) waited until the next day.

In a world where Ender is wolf, he can choose what he gives, and he's chosen to give guns to people he thinks will shoot town, maybe even towncore. It's a risk, but it's a very high percentage risk to take for town cred.

But as the numbers shift, the gifts become more conservative.

The ability could easily also be used to give a gun to a teammate (he didn't, and that's clean play as wolf or town, but there's inherently that ability involved) - enabling wolves to claim they are hero-shooting and shoot outside PoE without a tonne of risk to Ender himself.

I don't think the role is *inherently* pro town in the event Ender is wolf, particularly because I think in that scenario he knows more.

REEEEEEEEEEEEE how many times do I have to say MAC KILLED DENNIS

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:37 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 am It also pushes away any collaborative thought.
This is how I was feeling in the moment too, but Porscha is right that if you catch up I feel like it shifts.

wait till they are in thread with me at the same time again

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:46 pm I did other things but they ended up being useless / hitting dead people so I didnt really talk about them
Will you elaborate on what you did despite it being useless

oh. Nothing. That was soup cover, thanks for forcing me to say it out loud.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:35 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:33 am I do regret it, I didnt know that Scotty was spew clear otherwise I would have just left him alone. Probably still would have flash wagoned someone because if svs is 3p, the shot is not on mafia
Yeah, I kinda regret that it wasn't on guillo.

You feel super sure that sloonei/wilgy is t/t not w/w or 3p/3p?

Sloonie's defense on me could be a pocket sure. But he has done some serious analysis of my position d2 and found my breadcrumbs and he seemed genuinely weirded out by me linking them together and wilgy hasnt done shit to defend him or work with him or push him. Maybe they picked up on my vibe early and decided to ride it to victory. I had a gut feeling n2 they were modsquad together but I dont care if they are they are not wolves in that event and wilgy shooting a wolf when wolves were down bad is kinda good for him. wolves wont kill them because then the other will be town leader and they cant kill me or it confirms it. but they are running out of time. I die tonight or wilgy. The fact that Nutella (No proof because you cant read it)/ Kate / Urist and Michelle have all called me towny af (Maybe Mac? I dont remember his last position on me) should be clearing for me to the point I am unchopable and you force the wolves to kill me.

But yeah. All of the above can be true. I am not locking them as anything. I am just going with thread vibe and that says Wilgy is town lock so I am just calling them town lock and defending sloonie from dumb pushes that ignore my pairing check when people say "Sloonie bad." but in the same breath say "Wilgy good"

sure the opposite is true but you get what I mean? Only you can protect your town reads

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:32 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves
I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true
she has decided I am mafia and will not re-evaluate and is attacking me whenever I try to talk to anyone regardless of if she is involved or not. She is causing a thread state that is combative and not inclusive to people who want to avoid that kind of vibe. It also pushes away any collaborative thought. And you, my current mafia vibe, tells me what I know to be true as untrue? Interesting.
Rondo I feel like you're really disconnected from the thread if you sincerely havent found me town yet

show me when youve been towny. I havent seen it or felt it. I just see you slanking about globbing onto other peoples pushes. When have you pushed someone regardless of what someone else thinks?

I do regret it, I didnt know that Scotty was spew clear otherwise I would have just left him alone. Probably still would have flash wagoned someone because if svs is 3p, the shot is not on mafia

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:30 am Hey @RondoDimBuckle got any conclusions about the scotty elim?

tbh mostly checked out, between you, wilgy, sloonie we have it.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.
PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves
I think when you're caught up you will not find this to be true

she has decided I am mafia and will not re-evaluate and is attacking me whenever I try to talk to anyone regardless of if she is involved or not. She is causing a thread state that is combative and not inclusive to people who want to avoid that kind of vibe. It also pushes away any collaborative thought. And you, my current mafia vibe, tells me what I know to be true as untrue? Interesting.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:28 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok so Enders role mechanically doesnt make sense to be mafia Golden because

1) its incredibly pro town

See, I'm not sure I agree with this. Assuming I remember correctly:

What we know is:

He gave a gun to scotty, scotty killed Dennis. PoE kill yes, but the whole PoE was town.

He specifically made sure Scotty knew where it came from/got a signpost that he could claim to down in the thread. Scotty got to use the gun

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?
He gave a gun to sig, sig killed Alison in a hero shot
He gave a gun to Wilgy, Wilgy killed Radishes in a PoE that was stacked with wolves
He gave a suicide vest to Michelle, killing Michelle and no one else in a PoE that was ??? re wolves.
He gave Porscha a non-kill power.

All in all, the outcome of Ender's ability has been pro town, but.

What we don't know is

Is Ender honest about not knowing what he's giving? (t!Ender is being honest. w!Ender is lying).
What Ender's role actually IS (especially given Ender's claim that he doesn't know what he's giving).

Let's imagine a world where Ender is wolf and knows exactly what he's giving, humour me.

1) First gun, he gives to someone who he trusts is likely to shoot into a PoE full of town. And Dennis dies, but Ender is able to begin a campaign for town cred with "hey Scotty, what did I give you?"
2) Second gun, he gives to someone who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily and did go for the hero shot. There's a world where that shot takes out Mac or me or something like that.
3) Third gun, he gives to someone else who is known for his unpredictable play, and who could easily go for the hero shot. Wilgy, instead, plays it safe.
4) So Ender goes instead for suicide vest, giving it to a townie who then dies wearing it.
5) And then he gives something that isn't kill power.

Also btw I guess the kills must be used the same night since the guns operated on nights one two and three, but (4) and (5) waited until the next day.

In a world where Ender is wolf, he can choose what he gives, and he's chosen to give guns to people he thinks will shoot town, maybe even towncore. It's a risk, but it's a very high percentage risk to take for town cred.

But as the numbers shift, the gifts become more conservative.

The ability could easily also be used to give a gun to a teammate (he didn't, and that's clean play as wolf or town, but there's inherently that ability involved) - enabling wolves to claim they are hero-shooting and shoot outside PoE without a tonne of risk to Ender himself.

I don't think the role is *inherently* pro town in the event Ender is wolf, particularly because I think in that scenario he knows more.

Mac killed dennis with his americanisation

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:27 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:01 am Also if you think I have information and I am not sharing it means I am town in your eyes. This is so openwolfing I am voting here [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine
AcKsHuAlLy mafia and other alignments may also have information the rest of the thread doesnt have and that's why wolves have tmi and towns dont

Having info is in this particular instance is not AI
Your unwillingness to share it is AI

I have asked you three times and I wont again. What info?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:19 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:18 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:08 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:04 am That being said we have polar opposite reads atm which is NOT GOOD

-t
Hey, atm we have the same read on Wilgy, sig, Porscha and apparently Sloonei? And actually the same read on SVS (that her claim is honest about 3p, and hopefully honest as to not inherently anti-town).

Sig and others are shielding falcon. Don't say I understand the reason, but lets just say we agree on that too.

That's a starting point, it's just not the exact same starting point as yours or mine.

That leaves, between us, just the four suspects, two from each of us

Dizzy
Ender
Guillotine
Rondo

I'd rate likelihood of wolf as ender > Guillo > Rondo > Dizzy in this four.
I would prefer to be after Dizzy could I ask your thinking on Dizzy being townier than me?
Dizzy feels like t!golden and so I'm confbiasing that this makes him town.

That is nothing compared to the Kate shield of me imho

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:52 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:27 am I uh losing confidence in my reads lmao

Listen guys i dont wanna be controlling and shit

Im just like doing it for fun + trynna win at the same time

I just think rondo is mafia and we really really really should kill him. I dunno how we take it from there, im not confident enough to say "do this do that" after we kill rondo

-t
Understandable
Part of me wants to think rondo isnt wolfing but it's hard to deny the facts that he doesnt bother trying to negate or explain

give me a list, lets go

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:27 am I uh losing confidence in my reads lmao

Listen guys i dont wanna be controlling and shit

Im just like doing it for fun + trynna win at the same time

I just think rondo is mafia and we really really really should kill him. I dunno how we take it from there, im not confident enough to say "do this do that" after we kill rondo

-t

admitting she hits wincon when I die

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:24 am I uh wouldnt call Dizzy outed mafia anymore

But i maintain with extreme confidence that Rondo is outed mafia. I wrote 3 separate big posts about him that i think were all good, and none if them involved any emotion

-t

as we know, the more you write about something the more right it becomes. /s

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:16 am Ok so Enders role mechanically doesnt make sense to be mafia Golden because

1) its incredibly pro town
2) it is claimed to be confusing and ender doesnt even understand it (checks out with other town roles being confusing and having half assed descriptions coz nanook was too lazy to write detailed)
3) mafia dont have fakeclaims because radish claimed normal VT and gave up and died. So if ender is mafia, he has played a galaxy brain long con game with having this ridiculous plan of pre emptively fake softing a role that isnt worded properly

Ender has no reason to give these items to town. On n1 he didnt know what it did. He gave scotty a gun. On n2 he could have given a mafia buddy a gun to silently shoot a town, after figuring it iut

I suppose there might be some tinfoil that ender and wilgy are both mafia hm...

Well. Enders role ... By design is just really pro town. Its mowing down the poe. Every night

It could be a mafia, if nook decided to design a mafia role that was pro-town and fooled people into trusting it

But ... Hm. It just seems really far fetched to me

Like Ender being mafia is on the same level of sig being mafia and shooting alison, to me

-t

It could be SK, I didnt read the Neon flip but she was town right? there has to be a 3p killer out there right?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:11 am And I was like 'hey, Neon's a great person to talk to and if I redirect to her it's OK, I believe she is 3P'

Honestly, rondo isn't wrong that I'm playing my role poorly this game.

Sorry I didnt mean it to come out so mean. I was just resigned to the fact that I have to accept you played completely opposite to how I would have

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:08 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:04 am That being said we have polar opposite reads atm which is NOT GOOD

-t
Hey, atm we have the same read on Wilgy, sig, Porscha and apparently Sloonei? And actually the same read on SVS (that her claim is honest about 3p, and hopefully honest as to not inherently anti-town).

Sig and others are shielding falcon. Don't say I understand the reason, but lets just say we agree on that too.

That's a starting point, it's just not the exact same starting point as yours or mine.

That leaves, between us, just the four suspects, two from each of us

Dizzy
Ender
Guillotine
Rondo

I'd rate likelihood of wolf as ender > Guillo > Rondo > Dizzy in this four.

I would prefer to be after Dizzy could I ask your thinking on Dizzy being townier than me?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:54 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:53 am Wait Porscha are you lying about the thing you hold, or just using it?
I lied about who I used it on and held onto the answer I received

ok, good.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:56 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:41 am
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:39 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:28 am @DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
@falcon45ca
@Guillotine
@Porscha
@sig

It's time for us to combine just like Power Rangers into VOLTRON. It is dire times. There's 7 of us town left.

Rondo and Dizzy are obvious mafia for reasons I said earlier. Sloonei is obvious mafia for defending Rondo and not playing the game in any other way. Svs is 3p but I tried to bribe her. Golden is just a 3p who's blatantly scumsiding.

I don't know who joined in this event and who didn't, but that will probably have a huge impact on the game.

Regardless of whatever happens, WE NEED TO VOTE TOGETHER.

ALL 7 OF US NEED TO VOTE IN UNISON.

Please take responsibility of your vote and treat this as LyLo. We can't afford to split our votes or be the single votes on wagons.

This already happened to us yesterday with Scotty - 4 of the people on the CFD were non-town. Falcon and Ender were the only town.

If we don't vote all together in unison they'll just overtake us lol

I suggest that we vote off Rondo first. I firmly believe that he gave up earlier, until I made fun of him and he didn't want to accept it so he regained a little WIM. I am hoping that SVS shoots Dizzy to get her win. Then we take it from there. I believe Sloonei is the last mafia and should die after that too

We can't afford to waste time chopping svs (in fact, she is our friend. we should befriend her. we love you svs) and we can't waste time with Golden

THIS IS YOU ESPECIALLY @DrWilgy. i understand why you wanna kill Golden, i do, king. BUT WE NEED YOUR VOTE, AND GOLDEN IS 3P

-t
I am almost 100% certain every wolf is in this towncore. Unless it’s dizzy.
Would you care to explain who the wolves in this list are and why
It’s more the reverse.

I’m confident rondo is town. Kate gave me plenty of info that makes me strongly believe it. I think the parity check is the truth.

Because of the parity check I believe Sloonei is likely down because I believe wilgy is likely town.

I know I’m town.

I believe svs’s 3p claim very strongly.

Dizzy feels supatown to me for reasons I’ve already explained.

Given I think tutuu is wrong about his entire PoE… that’s why I think wolves are in the rest.

And tbh at this point with PC controlling the thread with reads I strongly disagree with, I’m paranoid about wtf is going on. Feels like a major control play to end the game.

But putting my best guess down… I woulda said Falcon but you and sig I trust and are shielding Falcon so…

That leaves ender (my first choice), and if there are two, guillo who I’ve believed is wolf all game and lost all wim when the mafia were down and who suddemly has it back now town are struggling.

yeah... ender is no longer town in my book. I was hoping he would be and treating him like a lock town from d1 to wig mac and him out but now he needs a serious town up or chop imho. But porscha has been the worst offender in trying to get me over today. Latching onto tutuu and pushing me without actually grabbing on and letting tutuu take the blame

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:54 am @Sloonei I can offer an explanation for mafia!Rondo's motivation.

"You know who I think ARE paired? Sloonie and Wilgy"

1) This does not read like a soft. It reads like a read
2) You dont check 2 people night 1. All roles have been pretty tame and low powered
3) Rondo was under heat. He almost got chopped d2. (Which, by the way, was w/w/w wagons)
4) He continued being under heat on D3
5) Mafia attempted to soup kill on D4

Given all of this evidence, Rondo was desperate on D3 to survive for one more day. D4 was the day mafia was supposed to win the game.

So what he did is ISO'd himself, found that fake read he made about Sloonei and Wilgy, and made up a whole fake claim about it, giving him 1 day to survive, and attempting to help achieve numerical victory D4 via soup

-t

lol tldr

tbh I forgot I was in this game all day today

Spoiler: show

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:03 am @EnderWiggin what do you think of rondo as of right now

form your own opinion what do you think of me at the moment? Why? Do you have any actual reads or stances or are you going under the radar?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:50 am [VOTE: party crasher] aubergine

From my detached point of view, the hydra is the slot most responsible for dictating the direction of the thread right now. Also from my detached point of view, the thread is not in a great state right now. If PC is town, this vote should be taken as a word of caution. If PC is not town, then look at me go.

PC is not town if they keep pushing this anti town agenda. There is no way town can come together into a proper discussion while tutuu is ruining town wim and causing a rift between everyone but they are likely 3p going off when other people said. She just wants to murder me so we ignore her and find the wolves

Also if you think I have information and I am not sharing it means I am town in your eyes. This is so openwolfing I am voting here [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:41 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:37 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:36 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:35 am Why is Rondo obvious mafia?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:35 am I have not read any of the surrounding arguments.
Sounds to me like it's a you problem, King.

-t
I am asking you to assist me.
Rondo has information he isnt sharing cuz he thinks in this situation where town is already almost outnumbered that it isn't a good time to share said info and his activity levels fell off the face of the planet and when confronted with this his only response was to say he is still making posts which does not negate the accusation

why do you think I have information I dont have? Why do you keep pushing this?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:35 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:28 am @DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
@falcon45ca
@Guillotine
@Porscha
@sig

It's time for us to combine just like Power Rangers into VOLTRON. It is dire times. There's 7 of us town left.

Rondo and Dizzy are obvious mafia for reasons I said earlier. Sloonei is obvious mafia for defending Rondo and not playing the game in any other way. Svs is 3p but I tried to bribe her. Golden is just a 3p who's blatantly scumsiding.

I don't know who joined in this event and who didn't, but that will probably have a huge impact on the game.

Regardless of whatever happens, WE NEED TO VOTE TOGETHER.

ALL 7 OF US NEED TO VOTE IN UNISON.

Please take responsibility of your vote and treat this as LyLo. We can't afford to split our votes or be the single votes on wagons.

This already happened to us yesterday with Scotty - 4 of the people on the CFD were non-town. Falcon and Ender were the only town.

If we don't vote all together in unison they'll just overtake us lol

I suggest that we vote off Rondo first. I firmly believe that he gave up earlier, until I made fun of him and he didn't want to accept it so he regained a little WIM. I am hoping that SVS shoots Dizzy to get her win. Then we take it from there. I believe Sloonei is the last mafia and should die after that too

We can't afford to waste time chopping svs (in fact, she is our friend. we should befriend her. we love you svs) and we can't waste time with Golden

THIS IS YOU ESPECIALLY @DrWilgy. i understand why you wanna kill Golden, i do, king. BUT WE NEED YOUR VOTE, AND GOLDEN IS 3P

-t
You are incorrect.

Why is Rondo obvious mafia? This is a genuine question. I have not read any of the surrounding arguments. I simply observed that his pleas on a previous page looked authentic.

dab, dont even care if Sloonie is mafia anymore. Only person defending me, must be town

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:28 am @DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
@falcon45ca
@Guillotine
@Porscha
@sig

It's time for us to combine just like Power Rangers into VOLTRON. It is dire times. There's 7 of us town left.

Rondo and Dizzy are obvious mafia for reasons I said earlier. Sloonei is obvious mafia for defending Rondo and not playing the game in any other way. Svs is 3p but I tried to bribe her. Golden is just a 3p who's blatantly scumsiding.

I don't know who joined in this event and who didn't, but that will probably have a huge impact on the game.

Regardless of whatever happens, WE NEED TO VOTE TOGETHER.

ALL 7 OF US NEED TO VOTE IN UNISON.

Please take responsibility of your vote and treat this as LyLo. We can't afford to split our votes or be the single votes on wagons.

This already happened to us yesterday with Scotty - 4 of the people on the CFD were non-town. Falcon and Ender were the only town.

If we don't vote all together in unison they'll just overtake us lol

I suggest that we vote off Rondo first. I firmly believe that he gave up earlier, until I made fun of him and he didn't want to accept it so he regained a little WIM. I am hoping that SVS shoots Dizzy to get her win. Then we take it from there. I believe Sloonei is the last mafia and should die after that too

We can't afford to waste time chopping svs (in fact, she is our friend. we should befriend her. we love you svs) and we can't waste time with Golden

THIS IS YOU ESPECIALLY @DrWilgy. i understand why you wanna kill Golden, i do, king. BUT WE NEED YOUR VOTE, AND GOLDEN IS 3P

-t

lol signing your own death certificate but ok

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 am My check in falcon comes back as:

I would like to not tell any of you.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 am I thought about it and decided falcon probably wasnt the best person to check

wait, why the fuck would you check falcon if you arent willing to defend me as town? If I am one of the most hotly contested people in the game and after the flip look even more scummy how on earth do you not windmill slam check my alignment if you have an alignment check?!

I highlight the post above because they're taking the time to attempt to view golden (and others) from different perspectives but not me

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:53 am @Golden did you read all of my posts today? I cased my read on everyone.

After seeing Sloonei out himself as non-town, it dawned on me that sig is probably town.

You have been scumsiding. You are scumsiding right now too. If you aren't town I don't want to waste energy. If you are town - what do you think about my Rondo case? How is Rondo not obvious mafia?

If he is - How is Sloonei not obvious Mafia with him?

How is Sloonei in general not obvious non-town? Guy is literally not playing the game.

-t

I think whoever said it was right. Tutuus renewed vitriol in my direction only started up again in force once they knew I was in the dnd chat and they don't actually care about my alignment just to achieve wincon by hydra killing the hero

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:47 am Oh wait you have sig green.

I try to only pay attention to the posts I know are tutuu because that’s the head I vibe with.

If you vibe with them then you think I am wolf mate

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:35 am guillo, ender, sig

wilgy, falcon, porscha, golden

svs

dizzy, rondo, sloonei

-t

You seriously don't understand that wilgy is the same as sloonie do you? Any reads list with wilgy and sloonie not in the same bracket is by default incorrect

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:43 am guess who said that

bet you can't

syn

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:43 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:38 am I have decided I hate dealing with Hydras while not in a hydra game
i hate dealing with rondos while not in a rondo game

That is a fair call, no Rondo should be in a non Rondo game.

I have decided I hate dealing with Hydras while not in a hydra game

But even as scummy as Urist was being he was still pretty towny

It went Nutella > Kate > Michelle > Urist

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:19 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:43 pm Kate called golden town so I am going to just shield him till end even though I hate everything about his role and how he used it
Meh there’s things you don’t know but also mistakes were made for sure. I can’t godplay my role every time. Maybe I can’t godplay my role ever.

Of course what I mean is with the information I have its not something I would have done. I always try to keep in mind that you're operating with constraints like I might be. benefit of the doubt and what not. Kate was my strongest town read of the dnd bunch and she is shielding you so I'm going to pick up the torch

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