The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:55 pm Falcon being like “Okay the response to all this is to auto yeet Dyson” and Tony’s response of “Imma assume Dyson is town” both like
I'm still thinking about it but it's like a "do we have room to kill Dyson" thing. like if he's a wolf, then what? what's he doing? is he lying? does Dyson/rondo do this? etc. and we get some info on that based on kills

why are you linking me with Dyson?

Why would I do what?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:23 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:23 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 pm I have a role, but I haven't used it and I don't think I will.
Can you elaborate on why?
Yeah, I don't see it as overly helpful to town. I can jail someone such that they aren't able to participate in the game for a round, can't vote and can't be voted for.

I don't see that as helpful to town really
it could prove you're town?
I mean if you want you can target me instead of Rondo, if you’d like a day phase without my presence lol.
But in actuality I’d use your ability on Ender probably.
Why me?

I am also interested in why ender

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:20 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 pm I have a role, but I haven't used it and I don't think I will.
Can you elaborate on why?
Yeah, I don't see it as overly helpful to town. I can jail someone such that they aren't able to participate in the game for a round, can't vote and can't be voted for.

I don't see that as helpful to town really
You know what?

I'm actually agreeing with some other people.

Falcon town.
Mhm indeed.
I’m telling you it’s TSP and Jack.

If its TSP and Jack you need to reconcile why Jack killed Seanzie day one with me if you want me to believe you

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 pm I have a role, but I haven't used it and I don't think I will.
Can you elaborate on why?
Yeah, I don't see it as overly helpful to town. I can jail someone such that they aren't able to participate in the game for a round, can't vote and can't be voted for.

I don't see that as helpful to town really

it could prove you're town?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:10 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:05 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:04 pm I'm just going to ignore Rondo doing weird votes.
why dont you scum read me like you used to
When did I ever scumread you for doing dumb votes?

I'm pretty sure in your first game I was the one saying "Yeah the vote switching is just Rondo being Rondo."

come on babe, you can scum read me for vote switching. You know you wanna

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:04 pm I'm just going to ignore Rondo doing weird votes.

why dont you scum read me like you used to

[VOTE: illario ] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:45 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:44 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:09 pm ACTUALLY if we flip red:

Rondo you'll probably die if you don't hit the right person so before EOD announce who you will jail IF flips red. That way you also make a clear for town if you still die.
Im dead either way unless we hit red and then if we hit red I just go for Jack again and if I dont die Jack is town
If Jack is town and we hit red you probably still die.

But that does clear Jack.

I'd actually prefer non-Jack because I think Jack is cleared for other reasons.

share other reasons

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:45 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:44 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:09 pm ACTUALLY if we flip red:

Rondo you'll probably die if you don't hit the right person so before EOD announce who you will jail IF flips red. That way you also make a clear for town if you still die.
Im dead either way unless we hit red and then if we hit red I just go for Jack again and if I dont die Jack is town
If Jack is town and we hit red you probably still die.

But that does clear Jack.

I'd actually prefer non-Jack because I think Jack is cleared for other reasons.

well then who should I go for? you, I kid, if Dyson is right I go for someone in the POE like TSP

scum EBWOP *

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:09 pm ACTUALLY if we flip red:

Rondo you'll probably die if you don't hit the right person so before EOD announce who you will jail IF flips red. That way you also make a clear for town if you still die.

Im dead either way unless we hit red and then if we hit red I just go for Jack again and if I dont die Jack is town

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm Day 1 five min from EOD and it’s a three way tie.
We fixed it
It was Falcon that was voted.
I could see Jack realizing Falcon wasn’t going to happen due to his partner TSP defending them and he knew he couldn’t vote Lime with TSP or that would be too sus and if it tied Sean died anyway so it does indeed make sense for a Jack/TSP team. I’d always flip TSP first though.

That said I think we were on falcon before LC

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:58 pm I honestly don’t remember where my vote was before it was on Seanzie. Probably Falcon.
I actually think it was on LC because I thought LC was going to go over instead of Seanzie.

BUT I might be misremembering.

I KNOW he was in LC

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:58 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:56 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:55 pm Jack voted Sean because Lime Coke beats Sean in ties so Jack wanted that sweet town credit.
There was no tie.

It's a 4/3 where Jack's vote was the decider.

If he slapped it on LC then LC flips.
There wasn’t a tie?

I can confirm it was LC till Jack switched to Seanzie

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:51 pm I wish I knew Dyson better because in a “Dyson doesn’t make up this claim” world, I don’t think Falcon in this game makes it up for him and I don’t think Tony makes up a claim that unbelievable for his teammate either given my experience with Tony.

Like I’m not gonna lock Dyson as town for making an unbelievable claim but if that’s not his style as a wolf, it’s his partner’s style (or lol he’s actually town).

when did TSP claim?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:40 pm Sudden maybe it's Gav feeling shave erupted within me.

what?

The other option is Gav is lying

if we flip lime and lime is scum he was voting Dyson day 2 that tells you if Dyson is town and then we go for jack?

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:00 pm After Dyson flips. If he flips Green then chances are Scum will kill 1 of the 3 players confirmed, probably Scotty.

This leaves us with the remaining:
Myself (Which I am town)
Falcon (Town)
Ender (High probability at being Town)
Lime Coke (CW to Sean)

TSP (Went from Town to Scum for me very quickly when Nanook flipped Green)
Jack (I think he voted Sean for credit and since Sean was dead either way)

so you're saying Day 1 (which was between Lime and Sean as a vote) Sean picked to keep LC alive? Is it possible he has a power that was less important than seans? You are saying we had w/w trains day 1 and Jack chose the lesser of two evils?

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:00 pm After Dyson flips. If he flips Green then chances are Scum will kill 1 of the 3 players confirmed, probably Scotty.

This leaves us with the remaining:
Myself (Which I am town)
Falcon (Town)
Ender (High probability at being Town)
Lime Coke (CW to Sean)

TSP (Went from Town to Scum for me very quickly when Nanook flipped Green)
Jack (I think he voted Sean for credit and since Sean was dead either way)

cw?

I have none

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:29 pm I have reason to believe Falcon is town.
Vote Dyson for Alignment Confirmation or TSP.
I’m still quite busy so on times where I can’t respond that much you can expect an image as your answer (and I might just randomly post a picture here and there.)

please share reason

TSP Anything else to add?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:42 pm Try again!

Suppose Dyson is telling the truth and no further kills are blocked.

Yeet Dyson
Wolves kill Scotty
Yeet Falcon
Wolves kill Rondo
Yeet Gavial
Wolves kill Ilario

That’s final 4 of Jack/Ender/Lime/Tony (maybe not Tony).

Slightly worse odds but still pretty good.

also they obviously skip at lylo 4

Honestly I think I get killed tonight, unless someone can protect me which I dont think so because I was the doc.

ok then the guest is someone else

Youve been watching for a while TSP glad youll finally join

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:35 pm If we flip a wolf then aggressive jail tonight Rondo

100% who would be top choice other than you?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:50 pm Ill keep pondering this, but If dyson is telling truth, we’ve solved the game, because there’s no point of a wolf dyson listing those names, because it only buys him so much time before we realize he’s lying.

Confirmed Town:
-Dyson
-Scotty
-Rondo
-Ilario

Presumed town:
-jack
-Ender

POE:
-Gavial
-falcon
-TSP
It's D3 and we have 4 confirmed town? What's the criteria?

ok you seriously arent paying any attention to whats going on, I am soft blocking you till you read

Dyson - Scotty, Lime
Gaviel - Falcon, Nanook, TSP
Nanook - Ender, Gaviel, Rondo, Jack
TSP - Dyson Ilario

Can we talk about the results from yesterday first?

Actually

if Dyson has another shot, they kill him before or during night 4 because he will confirm 3 more town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:50 pm Ill keep pondering this, but If dyson is telling truth, we’ve solved the game, because there’s no point of a wolf dyson listing those names, because it only buys him so much time before we realize he’s lying.

Confirmed Town:
-Dyson
-Scotty
-Rondo
-Ilario

Presumed town:
-jack
-Ender

POE:
-Gavial
-falcon
-TSP
Yeh. Suppose Dyson is telling the truth and no further kills are blocked.

Yeet Dyson
Wolves kill Scott
Yeet Falcon
Wolves kill Rondo
Yeet Gavial
Wolves kill Ilario

That’s final 3 of Jack/Ender/Tony (maybe not Tony).

That’s not like an impossible scenario for the wolves but it is one where the wolves have to kill a mechanically confirmed player 3 nights in a row.

For Dyson to be telling the truth, I’ve been pocketed by a wolf who specifically isn’t Ilario, Scotty or Rondo and Martin put that ability in this game. Looking at 2 of Falcon, Gavil, Tony, Ender. And Falcon is kinda antialigned with Tony and Gavil.

For Dyson to be lying, Dyson just has to be lying.

secondarily my tin foil says it could also be Jack blocked because he was killing

TSP is just blah this game

I hate that lylo so much but there isnt much we can do

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:50 pm Ill keep pondering this, but If dyson is telling truth, we’ve solved the game, because there’s no point of a wolf dyson listing those names, because it only buys him so much time before we realize he’s lying.

Confirmed Town:
-Dyson
-Scotty
-Rondo
-Ilario

Presumed town:
-jack
-Ender

POE:
-Gavial
-falcon
-TSP
Yeh. Suppose Dyson is telling the truth and no further kills are blocked.

Yeet Dyson
Wolves kill Scott
Yeet Falcon
Wolves kill Rondo
Yeet Gavial
Wolves kill Ilario

That’s final 3 of Jack/Ender/Tony (maybe not Tony).

That’s not like an impossible scenario for the wolves but it is one where the wolves have to kill a mechanically confirmed player 3 nights in a row.

For Dyson to be telling the truth, I’ve been pocketed by a wolf who specifically isn’t Ilario, Scotty or Rondo and Martin put that ability in this game. Looking at 2 of Falcon, Gavil, Tony, Ender. And Falcon is kinda antialigned with Tony and Gavil.

For Dyson to be lying, Dyson just has to be lying.

I am so worried that Ender ending up in POE turns out to be Scum

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:53 pm Hell, if we agree Jack town we can even add me

explain?

Maybe move Jack up?

Confirmed Town:
-Scotty
-Rondo
-Ilario

Gavial > falcon > TSP > Dyson > Ender > jack?

What other order would you put?
Dyson and Ender are interchangeable for me

If Dyson flips town it means I can stop my tinfoil of scotty and ilario

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:07 pm Rondo is probably actually town unless someone else has a saving ability
There's a decent chance there is another one just because doctor is so standard but Rondo is probably town anyway for his play yesterday.

anything specific?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:30 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:26 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:26 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:22 pm Kinda.... wish Dyson would've selected null players and not ones already in the town core...
Same
ok I read Dyson as town now, low town but still town.

do you back that up?
It's a weird claim for maf. Tbh tempted to flip because that gives us 4 ics effectively but that is probably bad play

<narrows eyes>
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EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:26 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:22 pm Kinda.... wish Dyson would've selected null players and not ones already in the town core...
Same

ok I read Dyson as town now, low town but still town.

do you back that up?

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:07 pm Rondo is probably actually town unless someone else has a saving ability

why would I put myself in that position as wolf?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:04 pm We should have information share today. Mine maybe useful in verifying people (watcher) so I will not out results until others in case people lie and I can call them out

That could also be "wolf" knows who town are but I dont think you would put yourself in that position

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:03 pm I had a special ability that I could only use in night 2. I used it and I learned that ilario, Rondo and Scotty are town. Wow, what a quality post this is. Everybody, you're welcome.

A) what is the name of this ability and B) why did you check these 3?

Morning Ender, I trust you slept.... at some point

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:58 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:47 pm Let’s try this backwards in an exercise:

<<Give some reasons why dyson and falcon are town>>
I have a PM that says so.

Is a lack of town reasons the same as being scum? Asking for a friend
The state of the game has me going that route.

It’s not a lot of posting. No new info has been revealed until now with rondo.

The end of D1 ended with our hero jack on Seanzie. Leads to a high possibility of scum not around end of day.

And if there WAS scum around, 2 active scum could have swayed that lynch

Nook wasn’t around EoD.

Nor were you, nor was dyson or…ilario?
Wait, what are we at lynch wise? You told me we hit Maf D1, what about D2?
…what? You mean, like, you’re saying you don’t know who has died or what they’ve flipped?

You can’t be serious right now

I dunno its hard to click page 1

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:59 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:47 pm Let’s try this backwards in an exercise:

<<Give some reasons why dyson and falcon are town>>
I have a PM that says so.

Is a lack of town reasons the same as being scum? Asking for a friend
so you role copped both dyson and falcon? both returned town?
I don't know how you got that from what I said

I was talking about my role PM

hurr you are falcon, I should be paying attention. I am zoned out watching twitch

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:47 pm Let’s try this backwards in an exercise:

<<Give some reasons why dyson and falcon are town>>
I have a PM that says so.

Is a lack of town reasons the same as being scum? Asking for a friend
so you role copped both dyson and falcon? both returned town?
I don't know how you got that from what I said

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:47 pm Let’s try this backwards in an exercise:

<<Give some reasons why dyson and falcon are town>>
I have a PM that says so.

Is a lack of town reasons the same as being scum? Asking for a friend

so you role copped both dyson and falcon? both returned town?

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