The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:58 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

I feel like this is most likely to flip mafia.

Do whatever you all want.

I'll possibly be around for EOD I'll have to see how real life shakes things up for me.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:45 pm I'm at Red Lobster currently. I'll talk to y'all later.

[VOTE: Tess] aubergine

I'll explain why later.

Unfortunate when I had the right reads coming into both days 1 and 2.
I can't win can I?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:49 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:44 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:41 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:35 pm LC,

Why haven't you done more to try to figure out who else might be wolfing with Alison? It seems like you should be given how confident you are that she's wolfing.

Because I'm fucking pissed off and I want to fucking bury Alison for this shit.

You don't fucking claim someone to be outed wolf, say that they're in anti-spew mode, to ignore EVERYTHING I SAY, and point blank refuse to actually evaluate me or ask me questions of what I'm doing to figure me out.

Why would you be pissed off that a wolf is trying to get you killed? That's part of the game, there's no reason to take it personally if you genuinely think someone is on the opposite team.

You might be pissed off if a townie caught you for the wrong reasons though. :P

No I'm pissed off because no one is even thinking that I'm town here because of your bullshit. I've been getting this shit every fucking game on this site

If this is how you scumhunt, just sheep someone and refuse to actually evaluate or have a mind of your own, then holy fucking shit

Our wagons have been extremely close and multiple people are voicing the thought that you might be town, even those who are voting against you lol.

This "nobody is thinking that I'm town" stuff is just total nonsense.

It's fucking true. Literally every fucking game I don't get townread ever despite the fact that I play the same every town game.

Smilies mafia I was obvious town, and I almost got yeeted above Seanzie who was howling for no fucking reason.

Fleabag I was in my obvious town range and everyone was scumreading me for no reason.

I'm always getting treated like shit on this site.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:45 pm Oh and just to make it clear I had your death fixed in my mind the moment I entered D2. I have never allowed players to get away with the stunt you tried to pull at EOD and I never will. I roasted the players of Just Robbed A Bank to a crisp for letting wolves get away with that, and I don't intend to make the same mistake. The nanook NK and your immediate self-destruction was the cherry on top.

You literally fucking taught me that staying off wagon at EOD is scummy as hell. What kind of hypocritical bullshit is this?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:44 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:41 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:35 pm LC,

Why haven't you done more to try to figure out who else might be wolfing with Alison? It seems like you should be given how confident you are that she's wolfing.

Because I'm fucking pissed off and I want to fucking bury Alison for this shit.

You don't fucking claim someone to be outed wolf, say that they're in anti-spew mode, to ignore EVERYTHING I SAY, and point blank refuse to actually evaluate me or ask me questions of what I'm doing to figure me out.

Why would you be pissed off that a wolf is trying to get you killed? That's part of the game, there's no reason to take it personally if you genuinely think someone is on the opposite team.

You might be pissed off if a townie caught you for the wrong reasons though. :P

No I'm pissed off because no one is even thinking that I'm town here because of your bullshit. I've been getting this shit every fucking game on this site

If this is how you scumhunt, just sheep someone and refuse to actually evaluate or have a mind of your own, then holy fucking shit

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:35 pm LC,

Why haven't you done more to try to figure out who else might be wolfing with Alison? It seems like you should be given how confident you are that she's wolfing.

Because I'm fucking pissed off and I want to fucking bury Alison for this shit.

You don't fucking claim someone to be outed wolf, say that they're in anti-spew mode, to ignore EVERYTHING I SAY, and point blank refuse to actually evaluate me or ask me questions of what I'm doing to figure me out.

@EnderWiggin

You know I'm town. You literally looked my games up, you know how to read me.

Alison literally shaded you for being correct. Don't let that shit happen.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:32 pm Oh yeah and I just want to say that if you care about threadstate reads at all, the constant bouncing back and forth between my wagon and LC's points away from us being T/T. It points less towards scum who are happy and contented that a town is dying today no matter what (unless the team is like... Mizery/Gira/Wilgy or something), and more towards genuine uncertainty and them torn being wanting to protect their buddy but not wanting to look bad.

Yes make more shit up Alison. That's all you're doing.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:29 pm LC,

I want to try to interact with you because I feel like I should be but I don't really have the energy. I'm basically definitely voting for you though, and if you're going to end up killed today.

Do you plan on claiming a power role?

I'm only VT.

If you vote me today you BETTER vote out Alison tomorrow. I said before that I think you're town. You're allowing Alison to just fucking power wolf and make shit up.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:25 pm I've been super busy. What's the cases and who keeps bouncing around Alison being in the lead/not?

She's powerwolfing and is making up lies about what I'm doing. That's what.

Wisp wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:25 pm Also u know how u find deep wolves, u get everyone to play the game. And if Alison is still alive tmr and tries this again, there is probably almost 0% reason to not execute her

You say this yet everyone's going to ignore this fact and they'll do nothing about it.

She's literally shading Ender AND ONCE AGAIN LYING saying that Ender is wrong about my meta. Ender literally did meta-dives on me, Alison never did.

Wisp use your head.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:04 am [VOTE: LimeCoke] aubergine

Meh.

Really?

That's all. Night everyone. Vote out Alison if I'm not back for EOD or if I'm majority'd before that. Stop letting her powerwolf.

Oh yeah, corresponding with "hold my voters accountable."

If Tess/Esooa continues to do nothing this game she's probably also a wolf.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:28 am The only main tinfoil is that LC hasn't locked himself town, which he usually does as town.

But he also subbed in.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hard to do so when someone spouts bullshit saying I'm an outed wolf and I'm in anti-spew mode. At that rate I'm burying someone's ass.

I'm about to head to sleep, I'll be back more than likely for EOD.

If I manage to miss EOD, and I get voted off, hold EVERY SINGLE VOTER OF MINE ACCOUNTABLE.

Alison should go Day 3 if I go Day 2. Don't let her powerwolf this entire game.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:20 am Okay actually why was LC's EOD so bad?

They:
1. Mention they feel like neither wagon is a hit
2. Put a vote down elsewhere
3. When people pressure on them they vacillate and seem unsure.

This is vastly different from an LC who is wolf who is more likely to happily bury a villager. Especially someone like Dizzy he thinks is strong. (See Buckets D2 where he was one of the biggest voices in the "flip Mac" crowd.)

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:21 am Watch me convince myself LC is town in three easy steps

Glad someone sees the light and actually thinks about my perspective on things, and remembers what I do as mafia and town.

@Wisp

Listen to Ender, he knows how to read me better than anyone in this game, he's done the research.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:57 am It'd be on the upper edge of LC's wolf-game to make this game so far.

That being said, apparently the EOD was bad for LC but I'll check that and see what I think.

It wasn't great, but I didn't have a real scumread and I wasn't sure of the main 2 wagons. I just chilled out and watched.

Like can we remember I subbed into this game and didn't have time Day 1? Because people sure as hell aren't acting like it.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:56 am Bear didn't get tdomed tho so that's the major difference where things change.

Actually I'm pretty sure I massively OMGUS'd someone in the first BEAR town game until I subbed out. And the dude I OMGUS'd was wolf. So same situation here basically.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:48 am Okay that's hilarious I love it.

It spoke in 3rd person and roared and everything. It was very entertaining.

OHHH

@EnderWiggin

The alt was called BEAR. It would post like start of day saying "BEAR starts in HIBERNATION!" and votes sleep and disappears for 24+ hours.

@EnderWiggin What alt?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:26 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:02 am @EnderWiggin
I’m going to bed and when I wake up your vote should be off the wagon that isn’t happening today.


Why isn’t it happening?
Because we are still going to be left with chaos tomorrow until we resolve Alison.

The contrarian side of me kinda wants to leave my vote there now.

Ender, for the love of god, if you're town, stop wolf siding. Seriously it's annoying when people that are supposed to be great end up doing this shit when I'm town.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:28 am There's part of my gut that worries this is t/t

If Alison is town here, then holy shit the state of her scumhunting.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:52 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:34 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:27 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:20 am AtE can literally be fucking townsided, holy shit, again, stop fucking lying.

AtE is literally a wolftell and I have said this both in and out of game. People who have strong arguments for their being town present those arguments; those without any arguments why they're town rely on deflection, emotion, and bluster.

Towns literally can fucking use AtE Alison. Plus I've already stated reasons I'm never a wolf here. The fact that you found a shit excuse to discredit those and NOT try to even solve me or evaluate my alignment just means that you're a wolf.

I don't care about your reasons LC

@Gira @Wisp @falcon45ca @Mizery @EnderWiggin @Luckbox Inc

Explain to me how this is town?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:27 am If there is gonna be a battle between you and Alison anyway, might as well remove that situation before it occurs.

What's going to happen is:

I'll end up lynched today.

Then Wisp is just going to get hammered like a railroad spike and get lynched Day 3.

Then town will still not realize the Alison is just powerwolfing and pushing town after town over and they'll trust her word again and yeet another town.

Rinse wash and repeat until "lolmafiawins."

Town is literally going to sit there and take the L willingly.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:27 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:20 am AtE can literally be fucking townsided, holy shit, again, stop fucking lying.

AtE is literally a wolftell and I have said this both in and out of game. People who have strong arguments for their being town present those arguments; those without any arguments why they're town rely on deflection, emotion, and bluster.

Towns literally can fucking use AtE Alison. Plus I've already stated reasons I'm never a wolf here. The fact that you found a shit excuse to discredit those and NOT try to even solve me or evaluate my alignment just means that you're a wolf.

I'm literally going to die and it's because @Wisp is fucking listening to mafia who has been lying the entire fucking game.

Then they're going to let Alison live and never vote her because they point blank REFUSE to look that way.

AtE can literally be fucking townsided, holy shit, again, stop fucking lying.

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:56 pm but lets be clear here, there definitely exists inconsistencies in wolf!Alison worlds, compared how she is treating other low hanging fruits, and Dr Wigly
There is actually no reason why Mizery doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, but some how Wigly does

I think Mizery is getting townread though? Which I agree with I think she's town as well. Wilgy hasn't really done anything towny from what I was reading a few nights ago and so far in this day phase.

Alison/Wilgy are probably w/w.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:08 pm Actually who the fuck killed Nanook N1.

The person pushing his legacy before he died....

[VOTE: Dr.Wilgy] aubergine

He hasn't done anything towny anyways.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:55 pm Also LC, I'm going to interact with you in good faith and process you, I'd appreciate it if you responded likewise in tone. =P

Don't lie about what I did then.

Seriously such fucking bullshit how I'm getting treated this game.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:52 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:49 pm Probably the major thing pinging me this game is he kinda pushes Gav on D1 then drops it almost immediately without ever voting him.

Which is just... weird interaction.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I FUCKING PARKED MY VOTE ON HIM DAY 1

FUCKING READ THE FUCKING GAME FOR FUCK SAKE AND STOP MAKING SHIT UP

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:49 pm Probably the major thing pinging me this game is he kinda pushes Gav on D1 then drops it almost immediately without ever voting him.

Which is just... weird interaction.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I FUCKING PARKED MY VOTE ON HIM DAY 1

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:40 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:39 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:27 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:25 pm @EnderWiggin
are u saying that LC has not done his town thing?

I got distracted from reading his ISO because I'm like a magpie with shiny things lmao.

I'll say definitively once I'm done.

Can you tell us what his town thing is or will we need to take your word for it?

Read Buckets Mafia if you want, that's the closest I'll get to explaining it.

You BETTER not fucking compare me to Buckets mafia. I'm nowhere close to that.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:37 pm 1. LC has not done what locks him as town. This is not 100% mafia but it means it's possible. (I think the ratio in my meta dive was like 70%ish of the games he didn't do it he was scum, and 30%ish town. Obviously percentages are made up but most of his town games he does it.)

2. I need to re-check my meta-dive on him because this reminds me of something.

This is because I subbed into the game and didn't have much time to do anything Day 1. I literally backread the game at 4 AM.

I came into today with my confident townreads (Falcon, you, Luckbox) and I saw things that Tess was doing that reminded me of something she did as mafia in a game on MU so I voted her.

Then Alison made these remarks of calling me an outed wolf and said I was in anti-spew when I'm literally outing my reads. Literally being a total liar about my game.

So yeah she basically outed herself as a wolf with how she's treating me.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:36 pm LC, did you actually N1 Nanook over me?

No I'd N1 you for obvious reasons.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:21 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:21 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:19 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:18 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:17 pm Also Tess is town.

why

Quality content.

Not yet convinced

Uhhh.

Is this your card?

tessepia wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:10 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:08 pm

tessepia wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:06 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:05 pm Actually...that recent Tess post is a good look.

why

Because you're actually giving full details on a read about Illwei rather than just tossing something out there and you explained your reason to vote Dizzy in a descriptive way.

It makes me laugh when people think lacking explanation is indicative of much for me. I can explain myself as either alignment whenever I want, really

Yup, knew you were gonna say that.

I know what the response is going to be to that tbh.

tessepia wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:06 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:05 pm Actually...that recent Tess post is a good look.

why

Because you're actually giving full details on a read about Illwei rather than just tossing something out there and you explained your reason to vote Dizzy in a descriptive way.

@Gavial

Tess isn't LHF btw.

Actually...that recent Tess post is a good look.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:01 pm I guess at this point I think everyone could be wolf with Alison except for like Me, Wigly, Mizery and maybe Ender.

I wouldn't bus Alison if we're partners. I don't bus strong wolf players like that when they can do most of the work and I can just chill out.

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:58 pm @lime coke
Look, just vote Tess, who in hindsight, is probably just a wolf trying to kill strong players

Also his last post was gross

@Gavial
I'm still thinking, where I want to vote, I'll probably end up on Tess, oraybe back to LC

If you're feeling that's more likely the case than Alison being a wolf then sure, I could understand you seeing that.

I don't get why you're not seeing me town here either way.

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:34 pm I mean if Alison kills town!lc, and then kills town me, there is no way people don't think about executing her. I said before I would chainsaw her, but I doubt I actually would lmao

So would you just sit there and allow town to eat 2 mischops in a row courtesy of wolf!Alison? Why not avoid that by voting her out and getting rid of a wolf that has a massive influence over the game?

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:56 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:57 pm Let's get something straight here.

This is me thunderdoming Alison.

If Alison is actually town here, it's an opportunity for all 3 wolves to jump on her wagon and get rid of her because she's a big threat to mafia.

The fact that NO ONE is jumping on Alison's wagon means that she's mafia.

Read the threadstate before it's too fucking late and y'all lose this for town.

Is this really something that you would actually believe-- that all 3 wolves would be on v! Alison here-- because it doesn't seem too reasonable of a thought.

Why not? When Alison is town she's known to be a threat to wolves, and it would be a massive mischop if Alison is actually town.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:05 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:56 pm I didn't put myself anywhere, these players did. It's basically a buddy system that they are trying to dent exists

No shit, it's literally fucking clique mentality on this site.

Yet people complain about me doing the same shit.

Wisp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:56 pm I didn't put myself anywhere, these players did. It's basically a buddy system that they are trying to dent exists

No shit, it's literally fucking clique mentality on this site.