The Syndicate

Well played mafia.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:31 pm Jack/Porscha doesn't look like it's a thing. Jack voted her 7 min before EoD, I followed. But I do think it's conceivable that Porscha could be run down. There was a lot of chaos during EoD.

They wouldn't know of each other's existence given that Falcon was the team mafia, yeah?

What do you think of Porscha & Jack's EoD votes (both days)

Can we stop contemplating who has better reads?

Objectively killing Falcon was good, killing Rondo was very very bad. These are objective measures that affect winrate. Everything else is unknown information and it's unnecessary to mock someone over their reads hypothetically being worse than these other hypothetical reads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:20 pmYou should be scum reading Dizzy for this obviously made up read.
Why do you think this read is made up?
And what is the benefit I would get fromt his as mafia?

Never have a read on me again in a game.

You see, it's better to not explain reads. People keep proving my point every game and then complain when things aren't justified.

I think the most important (overlooked) post that happened during this game is on page 1

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:16 pm No I didn't.

Me neither

Also, why are we talking about anyone being obvious town? We literally just voted someone who was basically laughing at us for tanking our win probability at EoD.

If I'm wrong I don't know what we're doing here.

Dizzy says my reads are generally bad and my gameplay is same as usual - I literally vote parked mafia D1. I've never vote parked someone on this site and held till EoD. What is my average volume on TS? It has to be more than 33 through almost 2 days of gameplay?

Jack calls out this read as fake, but then is like... Dizzy is lying about their reads, must be town...

WHAT?

Like stop it, everyone should unvote me at once, that's a travesty, if they're both town, I don't want to win.

I think we always have to kill Jack & Dizzy this game.

Instead you're voting me. Literally 0 sense to be made out of what you're doing here.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:17 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:32 pm (Voting Axe) just seems lazy and uninspiring to vote there.

His behaviour in this game is not different than what I've seen him do as town.

Caveat is I've never seen him as mafia. But it does not inspire me much. Just my feels.
Above quote edited for clarity.

It is.

It is though. I can often find town NAA. I'm not saying he can't be town but I haven't seen a reason for him to be.

I haven't either irrc.

You should be scum reading Dizzy for this obviously made up read.

That decreased our win probability by a lot.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:09 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:07 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:06 pm Axehole's attempt to make a case on me based on excluding mac from my question was next level forced I am so confident he is not pure town.
My level of confidence you'll be able to kill me tomorrow is high.
I just need to figure out how to defeat this Spirit Barrier that seems to exist around you. The first step in that is understanding why its there.

Just kill people who read me correctly, that's probably the easiest way to get there.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:06 pm Axehole's attempt to make a case on me based on excluding mac from my question was next level forced I am so confident he is not pure town.

My level of confidence you'll be able to kill me tomorrow is high.

Anyway, Rondo is obviously not mafia.

Twilight

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:01 pm GG I was maf lol

You didn't die?

Bye Rondo

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:54 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:52 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:49 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:47 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:46 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:45 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:43 am

Why would you sheep axe?
Why leave out half of the point?
Because I at least have some idea of why people in this community want to sheep mac at this point, so I don't need that info
Right, so translation, half of what he said doesn't support your objections, so you left it out.
pls explain?
Asking why would you sheep Axe while agreeing with sheeping Max on that wagon is a way to directly criticize the vote in a way that doesn't directly seem like criticism of the vote and also in a way that ignores all of the reasons the vote might be good.

Discrediting by ignoring 1/2 of the problem and trying to pass it off as though that's not what's happening.
HAHAHAHAHA you got all this from a 1 line question?

I think maybe you missed the post where I explained that I don't require any clarification on why Rondo wants to march with max

No, I got that.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:52 am Axehole if you're going to fly into the thread just to shade my posts at least finish the job!

I'm just reciprocating. I think you're 3rd P.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:49 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:47 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:46 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:45 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:43 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:39 am I'm fine being voted because it's funny.

But anyone doing it state your exact reasons why. @RondoDimBuckle @srceenplay @NotAnAxehole
sheeping mac and axe
Why would you sheep axe?
Why leave out half of the point?
Because I at least have some idea of why people in this community want to sheep mac at this point, so I don't need that info
Right, so translation, half of what he said doesn't support your objections, so you left it out.
pls explain?

Asking why would you sheep Axe while agreeing with sheeping Max on that wagon is a way to directly criticize the vote in a way that doesn't directly seem like criticism of the vote and also in a way that ignores all of the reasons the vote might be good.

Discrediting by ignoring 1/2 of the problem and trying to pass it off as though that's not what's happening.

I think the dizzy wagon is pure (and dizzy does too)

My dizzy read is very level 1, I didn't like Jack vs Rondo wagons

I looked at where Mac was voting

I didn't like Dizzy calling Falcon town on page 1

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:46 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:45 am
Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:43 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:39 am I'm fine being voted because it's funny.

But anyone doing it state your exact reasons why. @RondoDimBuckle @srceenplay @NotAnAxehole
sheeping mac and axe
Why would you sheep axe?
Why leave out half of the point?
Because I at least have some idea of why people in this community want to sheep mac at this point, so I don't need that info

Right, so translation, half of what he said doesn't support your objections, so you left it out.

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:43 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:39 am I'm fine being voted because it's funny.

But anyone doing it state your exact reasons why. @RondoDimBuckle @srceenplay @NotAnAxehole
sheeping mac and axe
Why would you sheep axe?

Why leave out half of the point?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:30 am Haha, I’m top wagon and it’s mac, ronald and naa. Cringe for real

Purest wagon

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:22 am I don't think rondo or jack are good wagons

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:23 am Axehole has 13 posts and I can't find a read in them that isn't surface-of-skin deep

I also got there.

Volume isn't a tell

Jack's push on me / lag is really scummy.

Basically is pushing the two people who he is least likely to receive flak for pushing - not because they're scummy, but mostly because they're not present.

My vote on Falcon should clear me for today, and Jack not seeing that should be his death warrant.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:37 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:32 am Also, if my understanding of lucky coin is correct, there are 3 players who don't want to kill mafia today. Two of those players are not mafia / don't know who the mafia are.
Unless they already have a coin.

Plus killing one more helps them more than gates them, no?

3x 3p
1x mafia

1x 3p wants the game to end.

4-1=3

This is the logic that got me there.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:31 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:51 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:42 pm Porscha deserves a look too I think. I sense a bit of thread detachment.
I see we are in the Arcbell "look for possible mischops" phase of the thread.
Maybe we can shed the Dizzy wolf 3P possibility because it's more likely Screen or Arcbell wowee

Possible wolves: NAA, Porsche, Lag, Miz (probably not Miz)
Possible 3P: Arcbell, Screen, Dizzy (probably not Dizzy)

Interesting mechanic.
dont hate this list
The list doesn't really make much sense, though I suppose he didn't include any logic to who goes where, so I'm trying to understand how you can surface level agree with this.

Me dropping a vote on Falcon and never coming back to post despite growing wagon is more indicative of 3p if anything.

Arcbell dropping the last vote on an already decided wagon is more indicative of wolf if anything.

I imagine there are other flaws in the list, but again, hard to say if there are flaws in either your logic or Jack's since we're not privy to how either of you could possibly think these lists make sense.
They are all people I wouldnt mind yeeting. His logic is his own. If you want him to provide just ask him.

I dont disagree with the arcbell statement

Ok, I think this is town.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:32 am Also, if my understanding of lucky coin is correct, there are 3 players who don't want to kill mafia today. Two of those players are not mafia / don't know who the mafia are.

@Dyslexicon Game is hard. But killing mafia D1 gives us a solid chance.

Also, if my understanding of lucky coin is correct, there are 3 players who don't want to kill mafia today. Two of those players are not mafia / don't know who the mafia are.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:51 pm
Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:42 pm Porscha deserves a look too I think. I sense a bit of thread detachment.
I see we are in the Arcbell "look for possible mischops" phase of the thread.
Maybe we can shed the Dizzy wolf 3P possibility because it's more likely Screen or Arcbell wowee

Possible wolves: NAA, Porsche, Lag, Miz (probably not Miz)
Possible 3P: Arcbell, Screen, Dizzy (probably not Dizzy)

Interesting mechanic.
dont hate this list

The list doesn't really make much sense, though I suppose he didn't include any logic to who goes where, so I'm trying to understand how you can surface level agree with this.

Me dropping a vote on Falcon and never coming back to post despite growing wagon is more indicative of 3p if anything.

Arcbell dropping the last vote on an already decided wagon is more indicative of wolf if anything.

I imagine there are other flaws in the list, but again, hard to say if there are flaws in either your logic or Jack's since we're not privy to how either of you could possibly think these lists make sense.

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:05 pm I'm a little bit baffled at the fact that I'm not the lowest poster in this game at this point. wyd? @NotAnAxehole

I voted my top scum read, and they died. I'll probably have a similar day today.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie

If this is a not-mafia list, then no

If this is a town list, then yeah.

I just glossed over op, so might have missed some details, the mafia aligned 3rd party is going to make it hard to lock.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:56 am Falcon (8): Dyslexicon, hollowkatt, NotAnAxehole, Seanzie, MacDougall, Mizery, Dragon D. Luffy, Arcbell
Arcbell (1): srceenplay
DDL (1): falcon
Lag (1): lime coke
Rondo (1): rondo
Not voting (3): jack, lag, porscha
Town

Dyslexicon
NotAnAxehole
Lime Coke
DDL
Screenplay

How many town do we need to just lock the game?

By my count there are still:

1 mafia

1 mafia aligned 3rd party

2 town aligned 3rd party

9 town

Mafia get 5 kills, town needs to know the alignment of those 5 players, plus the remaining 2 town aligned players need to know each other for Majority. Though final 3 has some weird lucky coin B.S. that I didn't read which means technically you can only guarantee the win with if you win before F3, which means we need to know all 5 town at final 7 and the 3 townies they kill before then.

So 7 if there's a way to guarantee the lucky coin on a pro town player.

8 if there isn't.

I'm going to use Srceenplay's patent-pending disapearing move.

I agree with Mac and I'm not overly worried about him being mafia... This is a first.

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