The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:40 pm I think my level of patience is lower in LyLo for some reason

I probably have too much patience lol.

Also, I'm making a readslist because I feel the discussion petering out a little bit.

I just need to have a good idea of what your plan is before you leave.

I mean, I don't think we can have an MnM alliance without all of the Ms and Ns

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:44 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:36 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:27 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:25 pm My experience with NotAnAxehole is that he will pocket the hell out of me on Day 4 regardless of alignment.
Yeah, so far I think the only part where we're misfiring is that you misjudge my patience as town, once we get over that hump, we'll be the perfect team, except when I'm mafia.

I think in our first few games together, I didn't know you very well, and I have trouble reading several new players at once, so I probably just ignored you early on in those games.

This game, given that you're offering boring snapreads out of a random generator, I'll withhold until Day 2.
Good call, I'll give you the formula to reading me, and watch as people scoff at it. From D2 onward assume that I'm always 100% serious except if a decision is already reached (this is where it gets confusing - the trolling), or I have lost patience with the day. And if you can relate to the logic I put forth, then there's a potential for you to find me by exploiting flaws in that logic.

Basically, if you can identify which posts are troll, and which ones aren't, I'm an open book, easiest read in the world.
I don’t think you’re a hard read at all, in fact I feel pretty confident you’re town which is why I’m hoping all the more for a vig shot if you intend on throwing the game again. It’s also why I found jjjs read on you to ping me as it felt like he was just going for an easy target. But I’ll go over his explanation when I find it and decide for myself.

I said that I'm a very easy read

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:43 pm Yeah you're an easy read except for the parts that make it hard

I mean, it's not hard if you have a sense of humor.

Maybe it's a reflex from video mafia, if I don't feel like people are on my side I'll just snap kill literally anyone.

I think my level of patience is lower in LyLo for some reason

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:38 pm I generally embrace trolling (and engage in it myself) unless it's LYLO

"Oh, that's why you thought I was trolling"

The issue is I'll say CFD Marmot on a 100% mafia flip and people will think that it's serious, which leads to misreading.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:27 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:25 pm My experience with NotAnAxehole is that he will pocket the hell out of me on Day 4 regardless of alignment.
Yeah, so far I think the only part where we're misfiring is that you misjudge my patience as town, once we get over that hump, we'll be the perfect team, except when I'm mafia.

I think in our first few games together, I didn't know you very well, and I have trouble reading several new players at once, so I probably just ignored you early on in those games.

This game, given that you're offering boring snapreads out of a random generator, I'll withhold until Day 2.

Good call, I'll give you the formula to reading me, and watch as people scoff at it. From D2 onward assume that I'm always 100% serious except if a decision is already reached (this is where it gets confusing - the trolling), or I have lost patience with the day. And if you can relate to the logic I put forth, then there's a potential for you to find me by exploiting flaws in that logic.

Basically, if you can identify which posts are troll, and which ones aren't, I'm an open book, easiest read in the world.

I'm ready to rest in that pocket @Dyslexicon

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:31 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:11 pm If I don't get invested, the game won't fuck with my sleep.
Dizzy, it's time for your evening prod. I'm sorry to have to do this to you. Prod.

Dizzy is in this game. NICE

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Who does JaggedJimmyJay want to eliminate today?
If the day ended in five seconds I'd vote NAA for boring snap reads. I'm in no hurry though.
Huh wdym? Also, why is that alignment indicative For him even if that’s the case?

Speaking as JJJ's official spokesperson (he has that much clout), he's looking for me to distance from people by giving opinions about the game that either lock me into a world view that doesn't make sense, or clears me from being aligned with certain players.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:27 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Who does JaggedJimmyJay want to eliminate today?
If the day ended in five seconds I'd vote NAA for boring snap reads. I'm in no hurry though.
Huh wdym? Also, why is that alignment indicative For him even if that’s the case?
I clarified a couple posts later, so refer there. I wish to address the orange briefly though, because this is a recurring question that I deal with and I might just refer back to this post number if/when I see it again (no affront intended to you ilario for asking). While I do have a sense on some level of what is or is not "alignment indicative" for certain people, that is not a mindset that holds dominating sway over my solving practice. I think it's a fundamentally flawed question, at least in the way it's most often applied (to literally everything). Sometimes accusations ought to be rendered without regard for such specific notions of meta. I'll include this in the forward of my book.

Very diplomatic

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:25 pm My experience with NotAnAxehole is that he will pocket the hell out of me on Day 4 regardless of alignment.

Yeah, so far I think the only part where we're misfiring is that you misjudge my patience as town, once we get over that hump, we'll be the perfect team, except when I'm mafia.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:24 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:21 pm @JaggedJimmyJay I think you're mistaking my D2 reads for my D1 reads. Generally speaking I don't go into more analysis on D1 other than "I think iaafr did a scummy thing"... Remember how I was on you that other game until I very was not. We're still on D1. If we get to D2, and I believe there is someone who can interpret my madness, I might do a deep read.

This is a game with LiGhT rOlE mAdNeSs, don't hold yourself back.

Oh, I didn't hold back in the Bastard game, I can't go all out every time otherwise, the # of detractors surpasses the promoter score.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:23 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:21 pm @JaggedJimmyJay I think you're mistaking my D2 reads for my D1 reads. Generally speaking I don't go into more analysis on D1 other than "I think iaafr did a scummy thing"... Remember how I was on you that other game until I very was not. We're still on D1. If we get to D2, and I believe there is someone who can interpret my madness, I might do a deep read.
Do your thing, my guy. It's a long day phase, and I know that when you want to make a difference you have your own way of doing it.

I don't want to at this juncture. But also my best guess is iaafr mafia, and that very much is a guess.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Who does JaggedJimmyJay want to eliminate today?
If the day ended in five seconds I'd vote NAA for boring snap reads. I'm in no hurry though.
Huh wdym? Also, why is that alignment indicative For him even if that’s the case?

Because JJJ gets me.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Seriously though, the bunny rabbit is mafia yeah?

Idk he said he was town, I dknt think he'd lie about something like that
It felt kind of forced though no? Like he was waiting for an opportunity to say that he's town rather than just being like, yep... I'm town, get fucked.
What kind of monster woild lie about that tho? This isn't some degenerate dota forum after all

I think I see what you did there, but I can't be sure.

@JaggedJimmyJay I think you're mistaking my D2 reads for my D1 reads. Generally speaking I don't go into more analysis on D1 other than "I think iaafr did a scummy thing"... Remember how I was on you that other game until I very was not. We're still on D1. If we get to D2, and I believe there is someone who can interpret my madness, I might do a deep read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:18 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Who does JaggedJimmyJay want to eliminate today?
If the day ended in five seconds I'd vote NAA for boring snap reads. I'm in no hurry though.
We both know this is a lie
I don't expect public development in your reads, but in the past I have had some basic understanding of what could get you to your reads -- at least in the one game. These snap reads here could be extracted from a random generator in my view.

I did consider doing this FTR, and I have done this in the past.

Oh, and now that I've claimed town, let me just say how excited I am to use this in my next mafia game, which is definitely not right this moment.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Seriously though, the bunny rabbit is mafia yeah?

Idk he said he was town, I dknt think he'd lie about something like that

It felt kind of forced though no? Like he was waiting for an opportunity to say that he's town rather than just being like, yep... I'm town, get fucked.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:14 pm iaafr falls more into the "I don't understand their motives yet" camp than the "I think their motives are suspicious" for me.
This is a good way of putting it without saying anything at all. Good work Biden.

sfkajsdbukfniwelFEWrhsjrahBDF

LOL

JJJ cares too much about accuracy to vote for fun.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:12 pm Who does JaggedJimmyJay want to eliminate today?
If the day ended in five seconds I'd vote NAA for boring snap reads. I'm in no hurry though.

We both know this is a lie

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:14 pm iaafr falls more into the "I don't understand their motives yet" camp than the "I think their motives are suspicious" for me.

This is a good way of putting it without saying anything at all. Good work Biden.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:11 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:10 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:50 am None of the conversations interest me so far.
Can you please write an article about how to play like this so I can adopt that method for the rest of eternity? Thanks in advance.
I wrote an article about how to play mafia, but it was instantly downvoted to the pits of hell.
In your own uniquely NAA words, why should iaafr be placed upon a pike?

If you're asking for a serious reason I can give you some that I think people might agree with, but I will not give you my read.

Seriously though, the bunny rabbit is mafia yeah?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:50 am None of the conversations interest me so far.
Can you please write an article about how to play like this so I can adopt that method for the rest of eternity? Thanks in advance.

I wrote an article about how to play mafia, but it was instantly downvoted to the pits of hell.

The Smarties are going to be very upset, we might need to kill SPF first.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:05 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 pm Nanook, Mac, Marmot all town. That should be enough to keep me alive, right? Riiiight?
A towncore of players whose names start with M or N? I can dig it.

TOWN CORE

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 100 is a lot

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 100 is a lot

Nanook, Mac, Marmot all town. That should be enough to keep me alive, right? Riiiight?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:56 am And by the grace of whatever gods are out there and the faith kf my subscribers I'm going to win even if I have to

You're in a completely different world bud

Nanook is mega town, partially because he's towny and partially because I need more than just the mafia team to prop me up.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:07 am
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 am I'm stepping off the SPF wagon since I'm not entirely comfortable with a wagon that has grown to four votes with little progression. [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine I notice that you just joined the wagon, and seemingly when SPF was starting to actually contribute, so why? Was there anything that pinged you?
That's...yeah I'm willing to vote that.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Honestly if I don't come up with a good scumread I'm probably lobbying to yeet him no matter what.

I support this movement, I hope you can die N1.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:56 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:55 am Lol, marmot is town

Now I’m running into the opposite problem I had early game.
yea ive been here for awhile, welcome

This is 100% mafia

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:00 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:57 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:56 am Resort to cheap tricks to do so
Weird
Sometimes you have to entertain yourself

I don't think I can catch you

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:53 am i do think hes >rand town so far fwiw but i maintain that hes a good vig shot regardless.

This is disingenuous.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:37 am I am town!

Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!

I think this is town

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:04 am I'm stepping off the SPF wagon since I'm not entirely comfortable with a wagon that has grown to four votes with little progression. [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine I notice that you just joined the wagon, and seemingly when SPF was starting to actually contribute, so why? Was there anything that pinged you?

kekekekekek

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:02 am ok i think ive given a preliminary opinion on everyone thats posted on d1

AMA

This was genuine, except I'm not sure that Diet is a flavor of coke, I was going for Lime.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm SPF taking stances to player's alignments might make her town this game.

Yikes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:56 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:33 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
im frozen

Twon

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:10 am belief is not gto

baaaad

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:56 am Resort to cheap tricks to do so

Weird

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:54 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:07 am jay/lc/leetic/spf?

alright ill call it a night

59/100

Do you generally call mafia teams all the time? What's the method for it? These lists kinda feel random.

Yeah, very weird

Is there a race to 100 or something?

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