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by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:26 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:23 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:36 pm I'm not even gonna address Nanook's sus until I get more info from em.
Hahahahahahahahahaha

Oh boy are you gonna be annoyed
Are you one of those "I provide no info" players?

Fuck
I rarely engage with people on why I'm scumreading them, its counter productive
I was more talking about you trying to engage other players to vote me
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:23 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:36 pm I'm not even gonna address Nanook's sus until I get more info from em.
Hahahahahahahahahaha

Oh boy are you gonna be annoyed
Are you one of those "I provide no info" players?

Fuck
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:21 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:14 pm I'm liking Nanook a little more after hating him early so that's good
Don't hate me bb I'm just here to have fun meme and dunk on some scum

Fun fact my phone autocorrected dunk to Dunia @dunya
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Wait no that came out wrong
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Night 1]

I'm shocked by this flip, shocked!
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:56 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Wait no Alison was accusing sig mb
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:56 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Alison vs Tim as the clock ticks down!
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:52 pm 3Ps are literally scum
I'd say more figurative
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:52 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Timsup2nothin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:50 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:48 pm I actively encourage people to scumread me make other opinions. HK isn't scum 90% of the time here.

And no one should get towncred for this wagon. It's just necessary to be safe later
This is so true as to be meaningless. All the little vanity wagons could just as easily be wolf on wolf distancing votes as anything else, so they just don't matter.
Correct. But posts in thread are good to have for next day. If someone starts a w/w wagon but drops it next day then there's evidence
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:49 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:24 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:17 pm
Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.
this is not good mafia theory
Why not please?
If we don't catch wolves they make lylo happen a day earlier.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:48 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

sig wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:45 pm
Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:24 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:17 pm
Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.
this is not good mafia theory
Why not please?
I need to read this case again and actually like focus in on it. But, I agree with Don here. Lynched a third party is this early on a waste of time and a safe lynch for mafia to jump on and maybe even gain town credit. I don't like that people seem to be trying to shut down other conversations and someone should really look into who's doing that and what they're shutting down.

I would, but i'm kinda lazy. So I'll task that out to someone else. :beer:
I actively encourage people to scumread me make other opinions. HK isn't scum 90% of the time here.

And no one should get towncred for this wagon. It's just necessary to be safe later
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:45 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Sig is slightly rising on my scumdar.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

sig wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:41 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:40 pm @sig Do something towny
I'm not mafia gooooo town
T
O
W
N
TOWN :grin:
That gets a 3/10
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pm
Herm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:23 pm HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.
It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
it's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.
I mean basically same thing. My point is outed 3p survivor is basically another wolf unless wolves are stupid
only if the wolves are in a position to win, but yeah, I need to die
I mean sure I guess if we roll it and I get lynch you don't need to worry.

Oh no, scumslipped again. Deary me.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

@sig Do something towny
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:39 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Also gonna wait for Don to accuse me of being active just before day end
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pm
Herm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:23 pm HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.
It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
it's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.
I mean basically same thing. My point is outed 3p survivor is basically another wolf unless wolves are stupid
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:37 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:32 pm
Herm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is bad
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:31 am
Wiml wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:30 am Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!
Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.
ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.
I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
Probably didn't like being called dumb.
Reads don't have feelings ;-)
Gav probably did tho.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:37 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Duskfall wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:33 pm Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content

Top 3 scumreads:
Dusk
Herm
KZA/Orange

Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?
4 scum is average in 17p why is this bad?
I'm joking because we were asked by the Don to provide top 3.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:36 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

I'm not even gonna address Nanook's sus until I get more info from em.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:34 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:32 pm
Herm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is bad
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:31 am
Wiml wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:30 am Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!
Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.
ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.
I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
Probably didn't like being called dumb.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:33 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content

Top 3 scumreads:
Dusk
Herm
KZA/Orange

Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:30 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Timsup2nothin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:08 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:04 pm
Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pm
Herm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:29 pm

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment
No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.
A request I can live with.
Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?
I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.
If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)
I'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc. :beer:
I've barely got to know you though! *Titanic theme music*
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:28 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Non-outed 3p survivor is less of a worry but anywho
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Herm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:23 pm HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.
It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:17 pm
Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.
this is not good mafia theory
Hey look. Its one of your townreads telling you I'm right!
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Wiml wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:14 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
Did he?
See latest quotes. He didn't say randomly tho tbf
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:35 am1) I don't think we should vote HK. If there are 4 wolves then I feel it is too risky to get rid of the 3p first. In particular, it is better to get a wolf today when all the strongest townies are still here (you don't want to be relying on weaker townies in the late game)
2) A helpful wolf! Thank you for doing my job for me.
3) Ok I'll let you off this point
4) Do you have any links to old games I can have a look at?
5) I think scumslips are very important. In my second game (Mario Mafia 2 on MU) I caught Dolby in a scumslip, on day 4 I think. Dolby managed to argue his way out of it and I let it go. Dolby turned out to be a wolf and they won at F5
As 4 I have some but can't be assed finding them. Also only rarely actually claimed wolf as town.

Also I might out my old name where Pizza and I lolcat dueled to bus each other.

I mean sure but I'm intentionally claiming maf. This would be bold play not a scumslip
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

I'm liking Nanook a little more after hating him early so that's good
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:13 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Also accusing me of lowered activity when I publicly said "nothing's happening I'm going out irl" makes me laugh
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

It's too cold to get out of bed prenight so you all have phone Ender
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:31 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Though there IS the slight undercurrent of cherry-picking involved.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:30 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Wiml wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:28 am Also Wurzel accusing Ender of scumslipping is hilarious (and probably town-indicative, even though his case is short-sighted).
I'm leaning more town on it as well.

Though mildly insulted. =P
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:19 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Wiml wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:42 am To expand on that a bit more: she knows my wolf meta is still pretty polarised and pretty much cleared me for meta reasons the last few games we played together.

We also mindmeld a lot as town and tend to play very similarly. I had her as almost lock town before she subbed out.
So as long as you don't flip red I can be pretty happy with my D1 Esooa slot read? Excellent.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:18 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:26 am Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team
Alright, so first case on me since 2015, let's celebrate!

But honestly, I'm almost disappointed. There are shockingly easy ways to case me as jesting scum but this one really hurts because it's not even good.

1. I was anti-vote on HK until 3pclaim. Once he claims 3p we have to lynch him. I am reluctantly voting HK as mentioned previously. If you're using that as a point of evidence... Then I fear for the rest of your reads.

2. I have outed several solid reads and beliefs. While I have a lot of jokey posts, it's true, it's not like I'm not providing actual content, which is what wolves do jokey posts to do. If you actually want to sus me over this, here let me help. Try doing this instead: "A majority of his posts are jokey or singular reads. He hasn't provided a strong case on anyone, instead preferring to say "x is this role" which is an easy way out." There, that reads a little more accurately AND scummier.

3. #230 was a joke where I was insulting Alison saying she assumed someone was town until d4...

4. All my wolf references caught, excellent work. I mean I do them as both sides as you'll see after this game, but don't take my word for it. I just like to have fun, see?

5. If you're calling any of my wolf jokes as "scumslips" then I'm sorry to disappoint you, those were all fully intentional. No accidents there. Can you wolf-read me for jokingly claiming wolf? Sure. Go ahead. Be my guest, it's a four-course buffet.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:00 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Don Wurzeloni wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:45 am Morning All

I think I'm going to start today by ISOing Ender to try to resolve his slot.

Nice to meet you Monkey
Bring it.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:00 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:48 am I'm prepared to trust Wiml's shield on Wurzel for a bit and pursue other suspects. I expect regular progress reports on Wurzel's alignment.
Same
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:15 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Ydrasse wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:28 am i'm not good at catching up but i'll take some notes while i do:

1) before i even get started, the 3p thing regarding @HK -- i'm sorry if you felt forced by my slot-ancestor to out since i know 3p is very rare/fun to get to play (at least from what i've seen since i've never been lucky enough to get it OTL) but i'm probably going to vote you today barring a really good wolfread. which i don't know if i'll get since i have low confidence in really nailing someone as one, but. yeah. just wanted to apologize if my slot messed up your game. :/ fwiw if it was like, Good For Town tm i'd wish you could stay alive.

2) i guess a bit of an introduction wrt me and forum mafia: hi i'm ydrasse, i was invited to mafsynd, i play on mafiascum a lot. i've rolled scum more times than i have ever wanted in my life. my talents are looking very cute and towny and not getting voted out, usually. i'll probably be around when i'm not at work. please don't ask why i'm only catching up now.

okay anyways

- most of early game gives me nothing, the first thing i felt as a real ping was 71, i don't know why, the frustration feels slightly +town.

- 95 slightly? +town for alison? i have retrospect of knowing hk is 3p but alison outing that feels good knowing it'll come to fruition. also the fact that hk votes her in 97 makes me feel good about them not being aligned.

- herm identifying alison as town is nice (137). feel smart. feel good. herm gets a bit of trust.

- long con hopping onto hk isn't as towny as pointing it out but they're agreeing with the sentiment and pushing it through. so townpoints.

- 184 alison cementing self as most trusted town. this feels like a read i would make LMAO.

- i haven't really had any thoughts about esooa so far but 188 is the fun sort of pop in that i don't trust much? like it's a subtle way to undermine gavial's push in the way that while even i don't agree with it, it frames gavial as like... incorrect. i think this only matters if falcon actually is a wolf though and esooa's trying to poke a little bit at my slot. or i'm overthinking. i want to pretend i'm smart.

- 201 +wolf for ender without knowing how it's followed up on. i don't have much of a read on wurzel going through these old posts but, again, retrospect.

- 228 is interesting, because i feel like someone sees a slot that's been talked about to some degree and voices an opinion of the slot before they voice their meta ways of reading said person? even then it's followed up with "i don't have much of an opinion" skimming ahead in esooa's iso which is weird to me. maybe it's that esooa didn't express the same confidence following this as she could have knowing he's easy to locktown/lockscum for her? or i guess thinking about it a bit more, identifying someone's posts as weird feels like it could be a small tmi in that esooa knows that wurzel presents as scummy at times but knows his alignment or something and it fell through. idk. i don't trust this slot right now.

- creature feels a little towny. i don't have concrete reasons for this. the votes on him feel like lhf votes because he's not doing anything. it's an easy place for wolves to go to, and oh look, ender, esooa. i can feel myself starting to tunnel a bit going down to 264. going on this, 303 also makes me feel some kind of way. i do feel that ender's... eagerness? on page 7 is slightly +town though, throwing out pings to interact like that.

- 321. !

- i'm warming up to ender on page 8. he has this fun energy that feels like he's town pumped to do things here more than before. if i'm being suckered i'm glad it's by the passion to play but i'm going back and forth on this slot.

- tempted to sheep my slot-ancestor's read on falcon if only for lack of my own opinion there currently, he was positing them as a team but it could be groupscum and then the 3p. hk arguing earlier that they aren't paired with falcon looked genuine and like, clearly it's because it is but i don't think it excludes falcon.

- not sure what to make of wiml right now, on page 10. same with duskfall. i lied about duskfall i'm leery of people labeling a slot as "incorrect" or "misguided" etc etc because they know that like, they're not doing things scummy but idk. being able to say it without worrying /why/ someone is incorrect and if it's meaningful is a bad look. (505)

- 549 is EITHER +town or +scum for duskfall with the latter having a caveat of it being theater and that's the only way i'd frame it as scummy.

- I am very bad at this game if there isn't at least 1 scum in duskfall/ender/esooa.

- 626 compared to 641. hm.

- i don't know what isn't clicking about these scumreads on herm but they're not getting through me.

- it's hard to reconcile gavial's actions and reactions to it like [urlhttps://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2150&start=700#p816294]735[/url]; there were clear like, impacts made by how he behaved in his tunneling and i'm having an issue trying to figure out if like, this behavior is "bad" ie scummy but not really elaborating on it is meh.

- wiml feels town. idk. i'm tired.

- kza has passable vibes but i can't remember much before their posts around 780. decent vote sick avatar we love mari. null.

- 978????? what??

- 1057; so. i find it interesting how wurz frames his lower tier reads as anti-town rather as scum, because there's like a subtle difference to me in that the latter has more conviction and it feels more like you're actively trying to solve. anti-town is a broad thing to say about someone and it doesn't intrinsically mean that someone is a wolf/etc. the fact that he calls nanook sus also means that he's clearly thinking about the difference between "bad for town" and "bad for town because this person could be a wolf." but is content to not really... dive deeper yet of the motivations of gav/falcon to see if the things they were doing were just annoying/hard to deal with or actually bad. it's a lazy sort that doesn't give much information at all and is littered with a wishy-washy mindset to boot. bad.

- if i am wrong on any of my reads so far i am going to trust long con because ours feel inverse in 1082 and it was curious to realize.

okay thank god i'm done because i'm so tired, i hate reading trhough threads like this.

town: alison, creature, herm, wiml

wolves: esooa/dusk/ender(?)/falco(?)

3p: hk

everyone not mentioned is varying shades of null to my tired mind.
I was pretty sure previous slot of you was town so I'm happy to leave you on soft town after this reads list.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:13 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
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Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Wiml wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:05 am I'm slightly leaning Wurzel town right now (mostly for tone reasons but I think a few of his posts were slightly towny for him - mostly his post on Gavial being anti-town that shows some degree of genuine thought/investment in his reads which I think he struggles with as a wolf and his read on Esooa specifically tracks with what I would expect from him as town because I know he does actually believe that Esooa getting annoyed is town-indicative. Like yeah, I don't think his posting would be too hard to replicate as a wolf if he decided he wanted to try to exactly mimic his town game for some reason but it tracks pretty closely to how I would expect Wurzel to be posting if he were town.).

He's a very self aware town / makes posts that are very rigidly structured and I think people are picking that up as scum indicative of him when it's not. There are better ways to read him but I'll go into those later once he posts some more because I don't want to say "if Wurzel does X he's town" before he gets to doing that thing for obvious reasons. The last game we played together I had to spend all of D1 digging him out of a hole for similar reasons lol.
I don't think he's been super useful to town but I'm fine leaving him for now. I got bigger fish to fry and today is a wash.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:10 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Wiml wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:37 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:14 pm
Creature wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:13 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:27 pm Victory conditions: Wolves require parity with town at day start. Town requires the elimination of all wolves.
Wait maybe it is confirmed that this setup only has town and wolves?
If that's true lynching HK is even better.

It's pretty much win/winner for lynching HK rn.
I actually think HK is more likely a lying town than a lying wolf. He's way out of his scum meta here and was one of my top towns pre-claim.
I mean, I agree cause I didn't scumread em either.

But anyway.
by EnderWiggin
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:26 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

[VOTE: Hollowkat] aubergine

Nothing is happening. One of Herm or Dusk is probably scum, but it doesn't matter for today.

I'm gonna head out for a bit to do some of those pesky irl things, I'll be back to talk later.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:14 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Creature wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:13 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:27 pm Victory conditions: Wolves require parity with town at day start. Town requires the elimination of all wolves.
Wait maybe it is confirmed that this setup only has town and wolves?
If that's true lynching HK is even better.

It's pretty much win/winner for lynching HK rn.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:03 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

*Pokes*
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:47 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:45 pm Maybe hk is a jester
I wouldn't even be mad at this point tbh.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:15 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

I think they're dodging shit and are either afk pretty hard or are avoiding me. I stare at them with narrowed eyes.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:46 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Herm wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:45 pm I assume we have 23-24 hours left of the day.

I'm gonna do a quick reads list.
20ish hours I believe.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:46 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

I would like an egg.

Now I want breakfast.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:40 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:39 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:14 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:01 am Feels like Long Con had just consigned himself to just getting elimned at some point during the game and I want to call that towny.

Going to read the meta they linked when I get chance.
LC/Wiml team?
I don't get why this makes them teamed
Mostly a joke, but it's not uncommon for team to go "X is maybe town for x reason, gotta reread just to make sure."

Giving themselves the "unsure" angle.

But seriously, I wasn't actually hard suggesting an LC/WIML team.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:39 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

Also, I hate to say it but we gotta lynch HK today.
by EnderWiggin
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]
Replies: 2480
Views: 45476

Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]

No other afks rn, but many low post counts. Hmmmmmmm

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