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by EnderWiggin
Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:52 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]

I just want to say that I'm proud of my D1 read where I was like "This thread feels like towncore is infested"

And I was right.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:04 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Popped in and saw my wagon was too big.

Just remember

Marmot doesn't get charge, that's my legacy. Yeet him after Jay tbh tbh tbh (If Jay flips red.)
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:03 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Remember me when the tides shift blue and the skies are grey.
Remember me when you realise who it is who holds sway,
The darkest night becalms with healthy rise,
When green the blood of he who dies.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:49 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

That's my legacy.

I could be way off but I feel that in my jellicles.

You all go and flip a wolf for me. I'm outtie.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:47 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

I need to go, there's backup issues I need to sort and me on this forum won't help.

IF I FLIP DO NOT GO AFTER DIZZY OR RONDO.

You can think about them if we actually get to f3, otherwise fuck off.

THERE IS AT MOST ONE WOLF IMO IN CREATURE/NATE/BOQ

I think there's a wolf in Nate but I don't think that's his partners if so, and if he's town I don't think more than one of Boq/Creature is wolf.

I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST ONE WOLF IN ALISON/JAY

This might be wrong and I'll feel stupid if I am but I believe it.

MARMOT/FINGER/LUCY PROBABLY HAS AT LEAST ONE WOLF IN IT

I am constantly revising this last part so eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

On one hand, I am no longer confident this hits.

On the other hand, last time I opened D3 convinced a widely townread slot is wolf and was convinced not to push through they were actually wolf (Mac)
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:38 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm Nate's process feels too clean for me to do that, also he had those flashes of emotion in Champs G1.
That's something I can look at later if it is possible, and if you can give me a sense for what that looked like or when it happened.
Around Lord Tentei notably was when I Remember it.

I'll be honest I'm mostly running off memory.

I don't have the time to be 100% by checking things
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:29 pm You called it his solving process.

I can see the lines of Nate doing things and each following step having a good reason for the progression.

Even his listlessness had a nice little explanation.

But I think those are something you appear to weigh much higher than I. You effectively just use it to call him town.
Okay. I do view clarity of process as an important town indicator, though authenticity is a necessary part of the equation. Do you feel that Nate has been inauthentic?
I feel like town has certain moments of unclear process because very few people have the mental process to not do anything emotional at all during a game.

If that makes sense.

Nate's process feels too clean for me to do that, also he had those flashes of emotion in Champs G1.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:29 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:27 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:22 pm How clearly do I have to say "I Sus Nate and think he's wolf" to get through?

I explicitly said after I agreed about the logic consistency that I thought you were weighing that TOO HIGHLY.

I am not voting Nate because people I townread disagree with me and I acknowledge they could be right.

This is called "Actually listening to your townreads."
You've referenced the highlighted term as something that you agree with me about on a few occasions, but I'm not actually sure what you're referring to. What do you mean by Nate's logical consistency?
You called it his solving process.

I can see the lines of Nate doing things and each following step having a good reason for the progression.

Even his listlessness had a nice little explanation.

But I think those are something you appear to weigh much higher than I. You effectively just use it to call him town.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:27 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Marmot wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:25 pm Dizzy, what do you think about Ender generally following your vote pattern?
This is where I point out that I got to Jay first in terms of verbally sussing him :cloud9:
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:26 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:00 pm I do think you are favouring his logical consistency and state in thread a lot more than I am
Just quoting this so Jay can see I explicitly stated this after I responded about his ISO.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:23 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:21 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:20 pm
Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:12 pm
Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:11 pm ender whats your take on me tbh
You feel like you're playing a distant game which on first pass I want to scumread but I doubt you're with the other people I'm scumreading so you gotta be just town right?

That's my bad take on you.
i thought you had a stronger reason since you said you liked my posts so much and stuff tbh ):

this is like when you are out at the club with peeps and someone says "you are pretty nice i like you" and then the next day they are like "uh your sweater was nice ig?"
The problem is I like your posts when you post them but every time I read back I'm like "But this all could come from mafia tho." and can't find anything that makes me sure you're town.
this is like a very standard reason town uses to scum read me when i am town fwiw tbh
Patrick meme "Then you should townread me."
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:22 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:19 pm @Dyslexicon instead of rehashing the dialogues on Ender that we've already covered, here's something new to consider: his treatment of Nate. There've been some hints today of Ender thinking about Nate, but the hints don't seem to progress to something more than hints. It's the kind of thing that I think looks like lip service, when the real Ender presence of Day 3 is just "vote Jay". Examples:

Spoiler: show
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:57 am Re: Nate

I'll grant you he's easy to push (Used this in Champs kinda), but in champs he felt like his thoughts were more nuanced and built around the findings he had. This game he seems passive, out of sorts, and entirely unwilling to grapple with anyone or have any hard stances. He admits it himself, which is a minor point in his favour.

Can you talk to me about what you found in his post history that you think as town?
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:25 pm Nate is also super sus for the fact that he has no solid decisiveness about his reads.

He provides those lovely scalding hot lists and then is like "But I'm not sure".

I'm ngl I'm trying to remember if he did that in Quals, need to check.
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:37 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:25 pm Nate is also super sus for the fact that he has no solid decisiveness about his reads.

He provides those lovely scalding hot lists and then is like "But I'm not sure".

I'm ngl I'm trying to remember if he did that in Quals, need to check.
I posted a lengthy take on Nate. You should tell me what you make of it.
I think it's a decent ISO. I do agree that Nate is logically consistent, which I don't think is entirely town of him but I do like it.

I think that the major thing that sticks to me is how he doesn't have a strong case for anyone. I certainly remember from our qualifier that it felt like he had more conviction.

That being said, there is a certain listlessness about this state of game that I empathise with.
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:00 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:03 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:00 pm I do think you are favouring his logical consistency and state in thread a lot more than I am
I think he would break his scum range hard if he's mafia here tbh
Wut?
He feels like he's out of his scum range to me.

Your tone towards me here is a little weird. You seem more stressed than happy that I'm viewing the game pretty much the same way you are rn?
Stressed irl, has nothing to do with you <3

It's coming through in a lot.

I'm also like, wondering if I'm actually right on JJJ because I read over the Nate ISO and actually felt I agreed with several comments.
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:18 am Dyslexicon
Rondo

Marmot

Lucy
Creature

NateTheLesser
Fingersplints
Boq
Alison
JJJ

While I always appreciate someone reviewing my work, particularly a suspect of mine, this makes it all seem pointless. I think that this is an example of a broader trend for Ender's Day 3 that I first alluded to here (click), and in combination with the previous gripes of Day 2 (click). Going through the motions. I don't really understand your town read.
How clearly do I have to say "I Sus Nate and think he's wolf" to get through?

I explicitly said after I agreed about the logic consistency that I thought you were weighing that TOO HIGHLY.

I am not voting Nate because people I townread disagree with me and I acknowledge they could be right.

This is called "Actually listening to your townreads."
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:20 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:12 pm
Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:11 pm ender whats your take on me tbh
You feel like you're playing a distant game which on first pass I want to scumread but I doubt you're with the other people I'm scumreading so you gotta be just town right?

That's my bad take on you.
i thought you had a stronger reason since you said you liked my posts so much and stuff tbh ):

this is like when you are out at the club with peeps and someone says "you are pretty nice i like you" and then the next day they are like "uh your sweater was nice ig?"
The problem is I like your posts when you post them but every time I read back I'm like "But this all could come from mafia tho." and can't find anything that makes me sure you're town.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:14 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Alison wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:50 pm @Alison You really have to answer how the hell you thought it made sense that Ender/Jay could be wolf theatre, when clearly it is not. Jay tried to get Ender killed on D2, and he does not do that if they are teammates. Clearly. So what gives?
I had a thought. I expressed it. In my mind Jay was a lot less severe on Ender than he was in reality; frankly, I didn't even remember that Jay was voting Ender. I was much more focused on the Wilgy wagon when catching up on EOD.

Without that context, all I am seeing is that two players who are very capable of nuanced, detailed cases are throwing around accusations with more flash than substance. I voiced the immediate thought that came to mind, which is, hey, what if this is a show.

I don't endorse that read now, after seeing the way D3 developed and after being reminded that the two were already harsh on each other previously.
"He only does this when bored or demotivated"

"Man he seems to not really be putting a lot of substance into thread, for someone capable of making cases the accusations are all flash and fire."

We both know I can make detailed cases as scum.

How has it not reached you that I don't have time or brainspace for me quoting 50 things to convince people I'm right only to be wagoned anyway.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:12 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:11 pm ender whats your take on me tbh
You feel like you're playing a distant game which on first pass I want to scumread but I doubt you're with the other people I'm scumreading so you gotta be just town right?

That's my bad take on you.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:10 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Alison wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:49 pm @Alison Who do you think Ender is more likely wolf than Jay?
Here's a condensed form of my Ender case. Again, mobile, so can't type a wall or fish out a dozen quotes.

In summary:
- I think the way he was acting at the start of the game was weird and anti town. I have seen him been needlessly cryptic as town, but I associate that more with him being demotivated or bored, and he doesn't seem that way this game. Frankly, he should know better, and I'm concerned he was using it as a shield for anti town play.

- The way the Wilgy wagon got essentially flashed at the end of D2 was suggestive of a save. He is a candidate for the person being saved, along with finger.

- He is one of the players that I think would kill Seanzie over players like Jay or Boq. Seanzie was openly skeptical of his cryptic attitude and was likely to be a thorn in a mafia Ender's side.

- He was on both town wagons and (iirc) endorsed them both.

- He is treating Rondo in a sort of kid gloves, apprehensive way. I think this fits the attitude that a mafia Ender is likely to have towards a townie that is very good at reading him but that he cannot justify nightkilling.
It's almost like I've admitted multiple times that my irl is currently pretty stressful.

I definitely endorsed both wagons.

I treat Rondo with paranoia every game including town games, we have some history of this and Rondo can even confirm that. You can call that whatever you want.

This feels like some things that are accurate (I could see myself killing Seanzie, for instance.)

Some things that are conjecture (Wagon flash D2 was to save me)

And some things that are both false or nitpicky (My weirdness in GOC was over the top, for instance, and yet I wasn't demotivated there. I don't do it often but I have history including that.) (And my Rondo reads.)
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:00 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Hmmmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I don't actually believe in the Marmot townread sometimes.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:59 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dizzy, why did Boq's catchup make you say he was town?
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:57 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

I do not feel comfortable in terms of surety.

Rondo/Marmot/Dizzy town feels good to me.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:48 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Currently doing work and trying to juggle while backup checks are being done, will be sparodic.

I will try to make sure I have a legacy for if I do flip.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:47 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

I see I'm coming close to being the flip for today.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:46 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 0]

Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:38 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:17 pmMy read on Boquise is deeply spiritual. I gleaned it from the garnet crystal I keep next to my bed. Boq and I have a somewhat unique experience to draw from, and it's a single game (champs, season 7, semifinal 3). Boq had less than a good time in that game, and it kind of became a standard bearer for him as a descriptor of his "town self-worth". Just given what happened in that game and the conversations I have had with Boq since, I have a decently developed mental concept of what town Boq ought to look like in our next game. And I think he is starting this one in decent alignment with that mental concept. He seeks to put his turbulence behind him and solve the cot-damned game. At least that's my initial impression.
This is some time after the initial Boq town read, and this is what's been hunting me in thinking that Jay w and Boq v seems weird. Unless "deeply spiritual" is just a way for Jay to shamelessly pocket. It's funny how I have resistant to think it is, when I shamelessly emotionally pocketed Illario in Fleabag. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, and it's just more of a joke, which the second line would imply tbh.
lets say jjj, alison, ender, fingers are town, also i am town so like tbh
who's scum iyo?
If Dizzy/Alison/JJJ/Me/You/Fingers are all town then wolves have to be in Creature/Rondo/Nate/Marmot/Lucy.

Rondo is being townread by a lot so that reduces it to 3 in Creature/Nate/Marmot/Lucy.

And I don't feel like that's the case.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:43 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 0]

Boquise wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:56 pm
Boquise wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:50 pm
Boquise wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:43 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pm
Boquise wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:41 pm

What's your thoughts on me tbh
Cuter than a cuttlefish.
Oh so I don't make you nervous tbh?
Should you?
Idk tbh, you felt nervous before when we spoke tbh
Uh.

Alright.

Definitely not the impression I had on my emotive state.

Of the people who would actively make me nervous if I was wolf you're behind several names =P (Not a hit on you, but there are people in this game who are semi-familiar with my play and I can't be careless around em.)
who are these players @EnderWiggin
Mac/Dizzy/Rondo

With a side of Nate because he was a good solver in Quals and had faced me as wolf very recently.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:31 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Marmot wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:30 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:29 am Ugh I can pair Ender/Dizzy but I havent factored in Marmot
We are literally the wolves who are competing to pocket each other more than the other.
And somehow it's working.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:26 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Sometimes I am town.

But most of the time I'm a lying liar.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:24 am
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:23 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:19 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:17 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 am I've also reread Dizzy and I'm actually pretty comfortable with calling him town.
more words pls
Why?
Dizzy likes being town.

They feels obligation to play as scum and plays a mean scum game, but they don't like being scum.

Reread their ISO with that in mind.
This is fairly true, but I don't really see how that makes me town this game?
Not that I necessarily should care about this right now.
Whenever I reread your wolf games it feels like you get less interested in proactively making thread move the further in the game it gets.

You feel inverse of that this game.

Yes I'm never using this read again now you know about it.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:23 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Marmot wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:22 am I agree with Dizzy that we feel closer to catching a wolf today than before, but looking at the wagons, I lose some of that confidence. We're spread very thin right now, and I honestly don't think Jay will go over today, which means his wagon might disperse to who knows where.

Anyway, votes look very spread, and that feels like a bad thing.
Consolidate on Jay with us.

Then it won't.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:23 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:21 am
Marmot wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:13 am Here Dizzy, have a cat to pet

Image
Thanks!
Marmot wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 am It's funny that Dizzy think's he is more in his scum range now than Days 1-2. I think the opposite is true.
Well, I know myself better lol
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:17 am I can't justify my Boq townread right now and I have questionmarks but I don't think he's actively teamed with JJJ.
I think they can be teamed.
I earlier mentioned Jimmay's early buddying of Boq. This is something I can't quite make fit. I should go back to look at it, but would appreciate eyes on if it looks weird that Jimmay is mafia and Boq is town, given Jimmay's emotional buddying. I tend to think Jimmay wouldn't aggressively buddy like that if that was the case, however this might be naive AND I don't actually remember exactly how the buddying went anyway.
The buddying is part of why I disassociated them soooooooooooooooooooooooooo <3

I reckon I would put it lower in the likelihood they're w/w tho?

I can't think of a good reason they're paired.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:18 am Dyslexicon
Rondo

Marmot

Lucy
Creature

NateTheLesser
Fingersplints
Boq
Alison
JJJ
I think there's 2 mafia in the bottom section but I keep changing who I want.

I have come out of today not as confident on JJJ as I thought I would be.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:21 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dizzy probably should answer that to tell me if I'm right, but I'd say that is the impression I've gotten from their play.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:19 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:17 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 am I've also reread Dizzy and I'm actually pretty comfortable with calling him town.
more words pls
Why?
Dizzy likes being town.

They feels obligation to play as scum and plays a mean scum game, but they don't like being scum.

Reread their ISO with that in mind.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:18 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon
Rondo

Marmot

Lucy
Creature

NateTheLesser
Fingersplints
Boq
Alison
JJJ
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:17 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

I can't justify my Boq townread right now and I have questionmarks but I don't think he's actively teamed with JJJ.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

I've also reread Dizzy and I'm actually pretty comfortable with calling him town.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Ehhhhhhhhhhh.

Rondo town.

Dizzy town.

Dare I sponge the Marmot town?
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:14 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

I actually believe Rondo would do that.

Because he successfully does that kind of thing irl.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:11 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

lucy wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:48 am ALSO I PASSED ALL MY AP TESTS
Congrats!
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:08 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:09 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:04 am Ender has 30 minutes before I slam on his wagon and go to bed
You're wanting to vote Ender? Why?
I dont want to vote ender. But he said he would provide a list by now. I will not likely have time to vote tomorrow morning so if he doesnt follow through with his reads and cases so I can gauge if he is town. I am more inclined to shoot first ask questions later. He would do the same to me if I promised something and didnt deliver
I'm not providing a list just because.

Also you knew I was running a D&D game lmao.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:04 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:43 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:14 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:50 pm @EnderWiggin I feel like you've been very hedgy on Rondo. Why? If I didn't know better, I'd be worried that you wanted to hedge to avoid Rondo to get suspicious of you.
I'm around briefly. Things have been quite busy irl.

As for Rondo, he is aware of how I read in a way that only maybe Thunal can rival. I'm hedgy on him because it is difficult to actually find something I can 100% townread him for.

Usually this will be the case.

I did hard shield him in his first few games because I knew he'd get wagoned early if I didn't.
This answer leaves a lot to be desired. I've seen little things here and there that I want to town read Rondo for. Is it possible for you to do an ISO there to get a firmer grasp?

Right now I have the same town core as you.
Yeah at this point Ender would have solved my slot, so I am willing to give him the time he asked for but if he doesnt call it soon I am going to have to put him down the bottom
Man no one likes reading the whole thing where I am like "I think Rondo is town"

Everyone just goes for the points where I remind everyone not to 100% take my word for it.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:01 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:24 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:52 amI want your words on this town list.
Will have to be later
Take your time.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:03 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:00 pm I do think you are favouring his logical consistency and state in thread a lot more than I am
I think he would break his scum range hard if he's mafia here tbh
Wut?
He feels like he's out of his scum range to me.

Your tone towards me here is a little weird. You seem more stressed than happy that I'm viewing the game pretty much the same way you are rn?
Stressed irl, has nothing to do with you <3

It's coming through in a lot.

I'm also like, wondering if I'm actually right on JJJ because I read over the Nate ISO and actually felt I agreed with several comments.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:59 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

lucy wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:44 pm Would greatly appreciate any perspectives on my Boq review. My present view of the game largely hinges on that.
problem with that is I want to hear boq respond first lol, I think everyone has read it, but they're waiting for you and him to go at it once before they give their thoughts
This is exactly one of the things I banked on in Qualies, because people don't expect wolves to work in lockstep in thread obviously.

I wouldn't count them out because of this.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:58 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

My problem with the major walls is I legitimately haven't had the time to properly parse them.

I can't even keep up with thread as much as I want
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:55 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:44 pm Would greatly appreciate any perspectives on my Boq review. My present view of the game largely hinges on that.
I'm about to run a D&D session, but after I promise I'll look at it.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:54 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

lucy wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:43 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 pm Ender
Rondo
Lucy
Marmot
Boq???
Nate???

Trying to make town reads. I probably do have words, but it's 5:30 am here now
I am vindicated
How so?
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:54 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:35 pm I'm at the point where I'm town shielding Ender, so have fun with that, wolves.

Egg on my face later etc
I like velvet lined pockets, yes.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:53 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:31 pm Alison saying Ender/Jimmay came out of nowhere and wondering about theatre is strange as fuck. Like, that doesn't sit well with me at all.
I'm not gonna lie this struck a chord with me too. This isn't the only time I've come out of night phase aggressive.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:52 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 pm Ender
Rondo
Lucy
Marmot
Boq???
Nate???

Trying to make town reads. I probably do have words, but it's 5:30 am here now
I want your words on this town list.
by EnderWiggin
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:51 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 5782
Views: 149322

Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:23 pm One of the teams that would make the most sense and be beautiful right now is Jimmay/Boq/Finger, however I have a reason for town reading Boq that I think is strong, and I also don't really think Finger is mafia.

Jimmay + Marmot also makes a lot of sense, however I town read Marmot.

I'm wondering if Creature is so called threadspewed from Alison and Jimmay. Not sure about this.
That sounds like you're scumreading both Alison and JJJ? Talk me through that.

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